Proyan whetstones review and testing
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- čas přidán 10. 05. 2023
- I was asked by someone to review the Proyan glass whetstones. In my previous video, I did the unboxing and first impressions and this is the video with the review and testing.
The stones were bought with my own money from here: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Dmb...
Other stones that I have tested in my videos:
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- Taidea 5000 grit whetstone: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_dZlZRKd
- Taidea combination stone: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_d6DFsQZ
- Weiwei 10.000 grit whetstone: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Bffi...
- Adaee sharpening stones: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_dUpnUkd
- Extralarge 1000/5000 whetstone: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_AZ4LlK
- standard sharpening stone: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_AY4Zc8, s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_9RxvpA,
- combination chinese stone s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_An3e3T
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- Ganzo Firebird F753M1:
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- Ganzo Firebird F714:
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Working with wood I needed some cutting tools so I had to buy hand planes and chisels. They needed to be sharpened so I have discovered whetstones and I have another passion now: sharpening. I like sharpening and I discover how relaxing is to sharpen a kitchen knife. I am not a specialist, I am a self though from what I read and from other people's movies.
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That deba came out very nice.
Hello my friend,
a nice sharpening stone. Thanks for the introduction and detailed information. good test. All the best.
Thank you for watching.
The 400 grit is nothing like my Shapton Glass 500. The micron numbers are close to each other, but the PROYAN TAIDEA stone breaks down way too fast, and is soo muddy like a Suehiro stone. If you like that kind of stone then get these. They will need to be leveled/lapped a lot, unless you are good at using the entire stone surface. For a 30-45min session I can see a clear dip in my 400 stone.
Mine doesn't feel that soft.
@@DanielWorkshop water seems to want to melt mine away. It works don't get me wrong. But the binder in mine is way softer then Shapton. I don't even think I used that much water. I would need to rinse and clean it after each pass to get the buildup removed. Glad I didn't invest much in this line. I almost was going to order more for gifts. This might be a hit or miss from a chinese brand.
Could be. I just tested another chinese glass stone (not taidea) and it was doing exactly what you said. Very soft.
@@DanielWorkshop I buy that Taidea, that's 8000 and 4000 grit feel like 600 grit from Japanese stone. That glass 8000grit can not make a little mirror edge (it's too cloudy), so I feel bad for all Taidea ( every grit )
I agree with you, I'll back to use Suehiro and Shapton 😅😅
at last this has been out for review .thanks daniel 👍👍
It took me some time. 🙂
Thank you for the review! I really like how you make videos. It’s shocking that these stones gave such good results
Me too. For 90 usd they worked perfectly. 😁 Thank you for your feedback. 🙂
@@DanielWorkshop im thinking if I should get 400 and 1000. I have an offer: both of these stones for 23 dollars. It won’t be my first stones, but I am in need of something in that grit range
Where did you find them with that price?
@@DanielWorkshop second hand 😆
Aaaa. Make sense now. 😁
Did you know taidea come out with a new sharpening disc like tumbler .
very nice Stones! i ordered exactly thees three stones to compare it to my shapton glas (they are on end of life) :-)
Please tell me when they come if they are performing as mine. 🙂
daniel, what stones do you suggest for free hand razor shaving?
I was thinking for king 800/6000 combo + 1 natural stones as finisher or
imanishi 1000/6000 combo+ 1 natural stone as finisher
actually i have only one 5000 taidea + lether strop and green paste for home use for knives.
thank you, i watched almost all your videos, very informative!
First thank you for following me.
I recommend using a japanese or a known manufacturer of whetstones because they have better quality control. The chinese stones are good for knives but for razors are not that good imo. The problem is that there might be particles with big differences in the same stone. For a knife that's not a problem but on a razor will damage the blade and it will give you a scratch on your face.
To finish I have tested a lot of natural stones but for me, the japanese natural finishers are giving me the best result.
Since, AliExpress is banned in india. And King stones are way too much costly get like single 1000 grit king stone costs around 45 dollars. Are kai 1000 & 3000 grit stones good? It's available here by official kai store. Each seperately costs around 25 & 30 dollars. Is it good option?
Ordered 400, 3k and 15k. Curious if 15k will work for razors.
I am curious too. Please let me know.
Do you think 400grit is best general options
Hmm. Could be, but i like my edge to be shiny so I tend to use also a finishing stone. 😁
Hey Daniel! Thanks for your review! I'd like to ask you what budget stones except these can you recommend for kitchen knives sharpening?
Thanks!!
Hello. You can try the chinese stones or Naniwa traditional but I don't think there is a better deal quality over price. Taidea glass are very good. You can't go wrong with them.
@@DanielWorkshop I appreciate your answer! Waiting for more stone reviews! Keep it up!
I am planing to buy them
Do you think it’s a good choice for beginners?
Mine are quite good.
Well, you convinced me, I just purchased the 240 and 400. It also helps that Amazon US has them for $9.90 each. Curious to see how the 240 is, if it's good at thinning and damage repairs.
Wow that is a bargain.
Just got the 400 for the same deal. Just missed the 240 that was in my cart when only 2 was left.
I suggest you use it dry if you don't want a muddy mess.
Seems to work fine dry for touchups. You can clean it off with a Dressing Stone/Rust Eraser with water after you are done.
So disappointed it doesn't behave closer to the Shapton Glass.
Did your samples turn out to be good. I still have my 400 but haven't tried using it in a long time. I'll probably never use it wet again.
@@DTrizzy I really like the 400. The 240 thirsts all the damn time and makes a crusty mess.
@@DTrizzy I'll try the 240 dry, but I'm seriously considering just trading it.
I have these stones. Avoid prolonged exposure to water, it will soften the stone.
Good to know. 🙂
It looks to be magnesium bonded. You shouldn't soak any such stones (naniwa pro, kuromaku, SG), they will get soft.
got the 400 it breaks down too much like a Cerax 300 muddy.
Might be best to just use this stone almost dry
pretty knives but ist it a splash stone to splash sometimes
the only thing stopping me from buying shaptons is my dad
The stones can be splash and go and soaking stones. Splash and go means that you don't have to soak them . After you start sharpening, splashing them from time to time is normal. :)
Do the cut even close to as fast as shapton glass???
Very close and similar finish. At least mine did. The problem with Chinese things is that you can't be sure that next one will be the same.
@@DanielWorkshop I don't think mine was the same :(
With a shapton glass that stone would be black in 5 seconds of the amount of sharpening metal slurry. That stone talks at a simple sight
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Ai stat foarte mult pe piatra de 1000 fara sa verifici bavura pe 1 parte si nu imi dau seama daca piatra pileste incet sau pur si simplu ai lucrat tu muchia mai mult.
Din cate imi aduc aminte am verificat si nu am simtit bavura. Si m-am gandit ca o sa am mult de lucru si de aia n-am verificat. Dar abia apoi am observat ca piatra face o bavura foarte mica aproape insesizabila. Ele par mai fine decat granulatia care scrie pe ele.
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Thank you. 🙂
ai si canal in romana? if not im good with this content😁
Am. Se numește Atelierul lui Daniel. 🙂
damn the day i watched your review! I bought set of these stones (2k, 3k, 6k, 10k) and they are having so many inner particles inclusions that it has ruined the edge of my straight razor ! Damnit! Hate this review🥺
Did I say that they are good for razors?
@@DanielWorkshop Pal, do you realize, the same damage to a cutting edge will be happening be it a razor, knife or an AXE, with NO difference at all because of irregularities of a grain? Without microscope your review is weak and irresponsible, so are the stones!
Pal, the knife and an axe are used to cut something. Not to shave. You could have asked me before you buy them for my opinion but you decided to go your way. And now it is easier to blame me. I sharpen razors too but never ever use chinese stones. You bought the cheapest stones and you wonder why they are not good for razors?