Can Parler Survive Without Big Tech?
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
- Around the 2020 presidential election, conservatives flocked to social media platform, Parler. Parler bills itself as an alternative to Twitter and Facebook, which, some believe, overstepped their bounds when they began labeling the former President’s posts. But Parler’s lax moderation policies lead to a slew of violent posts on the platform. Now, Google, Apple and Amazon have all abandoned Parler, and the company’s future remains uncertain.
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Can Parler Survive Without Big Tech?
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It’s their channel
Troll.
CZcams is, not Cnbc, they dont own the platform
Good
Take the hint then.
What's hilarious is that most of the planning for the Capitol Riot took place on Facebook...
Facebook: Here's some money Amazon.
idk isnt it was telegram?
There are conspiracy theorist on the left and the right. And I think shutting down Parler is fueling more conspiracy theorist on the right who will exploit this more. Because shutting them down while still leaving twitter of facebook with the same type of rhetoric from the left is absurd. If they are going to crackdown on this then do it equally.
@@sakenu16 The problem with your logic is Amazon doesn’t want to host this kind of content, Amazon doesn’t host Facebook or Twitter - they host themselves on their own servers, so Amazon has no ability to tell Facebook or Twitter anything about their content moderation. Parler however wanted Amazon to host their content for them - while refusing to follow Amazon’s rules on how quickly to remove violent content. Parler can host their own servers as well - somebody out there in this vast world will provide them an internet connection - they just have to do the work involved in building a server farm.
@@ualdayan is that true? Because according to amazon blog they mention twtter timeline uses Amazon, as well as twitter uses amazon CloudFront, and DB.
*Keep putting in a link to website but comment seems to be deleted.
Why is Parler responsible? If I'm a service provider and someone makes a bomb threat using my service am I held liable?
Imagine someone sending a bomb through the mail and to avoid threats the government simply removes the post office.
No, only the person. They just don't want the first amendment to apply to social media. They'll keep pushing the "they're dangerous narrative" until they lose in court.
when they are all about missinfo yes your responsible! They can try to lie and say they are not but basically they exist so people can spread crazy conspiracy ideas in a space with no consequences
Strange that Twitter gets a free pass.
We all know they put an “advisory warning” before you can click on the contact. That’s Proactive, right?
Lol twitter openly removed the POTUS from the platform, they are taking steps to clean the virus from their platform and that's why twitter in no capacity can be compared to nazi platforms like parler and gab
At least Twitter isn’t organizing an actual interaction
Twitter is vastly more diverse than Parker ever could have been. Yes, there is racism and trash, but there are artists, actual news agencies, and voices from around the world on Twitter. There really is no comparison.
@@gatech5190 Nazis 😄
Who’s here after they just fired their CEO?
Bob, yup !
The fact that Apple, Google, and Amazon agree on something is impressive.
@AnotherPlanet wait who would be paying the companies
@AnotherPlanet also these companies are the most profitable companies in the world, they don’t need a couple million for something like this that would give them this much bad press
@AnotherPlanet Lol. No evidence, just pure speculation. You can't just assert they got paid for something without evidence. Perhaps they didn't want to get sued for hosting extremist content? Plus the app broke all of their ToS agreements, so they absolutely can remove it.
@AnotherPlanet but how much money could they have to bribe these tech companies who make over 50 billion dollars a year in profit
@AnotherPlanet That's not even a theory though. I could say aliens from Jupiter paid them and it's just as valid as what you're saying, which is not valid at all.
The comments are going to be a battle ground, I’m heading to my bunker.
Underrated comment 😂😅
Then why came here? Just to type this and act like a cool 😎 guy or gal or transgender or are you also from overly concerned gang.
lol
same
@@Theoriginalsaxocomedy aaand you're proving his point lmao
*Parler is good lmao, did you see all these facebook q anon groups? Why facebook is not being held accountable and banned of the appstore?*
Because Facebook is actually doing something about it
They lost as soon as Ted Cruz endorsed it.
Nice try snowflake
@@josem7369 lmao you actually like Ted Cruz? 🤣🤣🤣
Dingus Glurt what’s so funny
@@PatriotsFanSince92 the fact that the guy I was replying to likes Ted Cruz. That’s what’s funny.
@@josem7369 Haha! You're a Ted Cruz supporter!
As if Twitter wasn't a liberal echo chamber.
There is liberal, there is conservative then there is you - the fake news conspiracy theory spreaders. Come on, man, you know you ain’t conservatives.
@@watchman835 people like you make conspiracy about gates, Rothschild and Rockefellers
@@RealCherry8085 What are you on about? I respect Bill Gates. I don’t believe those craps about Rothschild and Pizza Gate. You clearly got the facts wrong.
4:25 why would liberals join when they could just say there views on twitter
Yeah plus everyone in Twitter is a leftist, and we all know the left PRETENDS to be accepting, but when you have different views they burn you.
@@matt.lehodey conservatives are all over Twitter too.
Money is the answer. Lots of conservatives who hate twitter stay on it for business, lots of liberals would join parler if they could advertise their businesses.
@@bespinoza66 and conservatives are the only one who are held to TOS’s
@@obo2999 and your proof is?
I’ve been on Parler and Twitter and Twitter is far worse.
How worse?
Twitter is a cesspool
@@valienterf were heading to a Civil War and soy-drinking liberals are allowing the DemonRats to take action.
Twitter is ridiculous. Hypocrites.
Not without Big Tech, against Big Tech
Free speech doesn’t equal deception with out accountability.
This!
@Bork Bork Bork It should.
If and when Parler get back online I'll definitely open an account. There's too much far left content on Twitter and Twitter's policies are selectively enforced.
The content would be fine if they didnt censor everything that isnt far left.
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YES! Parler is back on the Net - take that Amazon! I rarely shopped on Amazon, mostly eBay Now Amazon will get ZERO% of my business.
Amazon is more expensive anyway. Baffles me that people can't see that.
The comment section will make ww2 look like a water gun fight. Come with me into my hidey hole.
im with u brotha
Oi, I'm right here. Credit for offering refuge.
I just dont understand why parler gets banned but twitter doesnt even thpugh there is a LOT WORSE on twitter that is still up!
Parler is worse by far
Twitter=left and only promote that, parler=right, due to a majority within its users, not due to the platform
What scary about this is what if China will create another cloud service that can compete with AWS?
They can and probably are making a cheaper AWS alternative.
@@charu2059 Alibaba cloud
Not scary, just funny
@@ayrhow5626 not funny excellent
@@ayrhow5626 not until they make a conspiracy app for american
Such an opportunity for Alibaba Cloud
🤣
@@yaush_ Yesterday CNBC showed that Aliababa Cloud has the same market share of Google in the US.
😂😂 that was good
Parler. I tried to join Parler, however the program was blocked, so I could not join!
Use Safari
Yes. There was a time before Cloud service hosting....and it still exists. You can still host your own servers or have co-location.
Let’s just shut the whole internet down for good then there is no more arguments
They can host themselves on home servers like old days
And should hire gilflyod
It was proven that fb wasthe org but I lie
Free speech is not freedom from consequences
Now it's easy for FBI to find KAREN'S KEVIN'S of Vanilla Y'allqaeda on one app.
Karens are mostly liberals lets be honest
We patriots need to boycott amazon for taking out Paler from us Americans who wanted speaking the truth. God bless America.
Parler needs to build own infulstructure
People can say whatever they want as long as they are ready to deal with the consequences
Thats not free speech then.
But they cant. The outlets are banned.
@@alexturlais8558 it is free speech. Free speech is protection from the government. But if you scream fire and there is no fire that is illegal.
@@alexturlais8558 free speech isn't the right to spread violence, those are two separate things. Disagree with whatever you, but calling for "violent retribution" is no one's right.
@@whiteipod2000 Letter of the law vs spirit if the law. The reason why the law was written to explicitly forbid the government from regulating speech is because back then it was the only entity that could.
#banyoutube
Time to come up with new OS as well I guess!!! Hopefully Ubantu comes up with something cool 😎
Nehaly, Ubuntu is an african word. we want nothing to do with alt right.
@@PHlophe
"Alt right". What's your definition of this? 120 million armed Americans? Personally, I believe we don't have to agree on a single thing. I would never want you "cancelled", because that goes against everything I believe in, especially the right to free speech.
But, if you think you can override the constitution with your feelings, you are gravely mistaken, my dear. Gravely.
@@PHlophe Ubuntu is an open operating system. Just like Mac and Windows. But these two are owned by tech giants and on the other hand Ubuntu Linux system is free for use. Hence chances for them to come up with an OS for cell phones would be great thing!
Fascinating topic, hopefully new sites and services will be built because of this.
I’m all about companies doing whatever they want but as long they should do the same with censoring left wing extremists
Anyone who incites violence should be banned
An extremist on either side should get banned especially if there's a threat of violence.
Just came from Parler. They're running more smooth than ever before. Ditching Amazon was the best thing that could have happened to them! Parler IS big tech far as I'm concerned.
I got the idea of free speech. But people also have freedom to boycott a marchandise, and the toxic idea behind it.
No matter if your left or right if you don’t see the danger in what they did to parlor your part of the problem.
Parlor violated the terms of their contract so nothing is wrong with what happened.
and if u don’t see that Parker now uses a russian companies to host its website your part of the problem too
@@dannnyyang I mean Parler doesn’t really have a choice as most western hosts refuse to work with them
It's funny when the same people who champion the free market complain when the free market doesn't go their way!
your can express your view without fear of being "deplatform"
but you platform just got deplatformed🤣🤣🤣
I thought it pronounced "par-lay", as in the French "parler" (to speak).
thank God I wasn't the only one who read it in french
Free Speech is not Free from Consequences.
That’s the Free part of the free speech. But if you want to keep going down this road eventually your enemies will be quoting you.
Ladies & gentlemen the invisible hand of market force presents to you, the middle finger.
Not a free market.
The funny part was Parler taking Amazon to court in an effort to force them to do business with them. It doesn't work like that dummy! It's like someone showing up at your house and demanding you cook him dinner, to sleep with your wife and drive your car so when you call the police, obviously they'll tell that person that won't be possible. 😀😂😂
Psh. At this rate, there will be a social platform that use blockchain technology to stay online. Centralized is not for the free. It’s for liabilities.
Jeremy just like a p2p ? its not efficient for live messaging. but i am ok with Pawler being gone
pick up ya bootstraps... no handouts
Free Speech is Allowed only if it's what big tech thinks or wants, no other point of view
Of course it can. Millions are waiting to join and exercise their 1st Amendment Right
Goodbye FREE SPEECH 👋🏼 .
Go yell "I have a bomb" on a plane and see how your free speech holds up...
When you make your business off of being a haven for those deemed to toxic for anyone else to host, you should expect to see your business fail when invariably those toxic elements cause death.
BLM not using parlor
When you curtail the free speech of 120 million Armed Americans, you should expect to see very serious consequences. Your feelings don't override the constitution.
I wonder how a decentralized cdn would help - no aws that could shut you down
Didn't fakebook livestream a shootang?
No it needs the people the people control Amazon you need to ask
He's the video is a summary. The answer is: probably no
The rule of thumb with any headline that is a question is that the answer is likely 'no'.
Kinda funny how conservatives claim cancel culture etc. However when one of their party members speak up against their dear leader Trump they try and cancel them 😂🤣😂
just like liberals
Yeah doesn't matter who does it it always sucks
They also wanted sports and Hollywood canceled. Clowns everywhere loll.
There are a lot of immature people in this country. I used to do it, too. The false flagging a channel, etc. But I've gotten more mature over the years, and I see the hypocrisy. If you're truly for free speech, you don't need to try to get people cancelled. That's toddler crap and it's the path to a very dangerous and horrible dystopia.
At the end of the day, we don't have to agree on a single thing, but what we should be allowed to do, is speak our mind without the risk of being deleted, either online, or IRL. It's disgusting.
To complicate matters, there's a lot of shills. Oil, food industry, etc. (right wing). CCP, globalist, anarchist (left wing). And everything in between. These actually do need to be cancelled, but there's no algo that's even remotely good at dealing with them, and allowing people to flag them will just give them another tool to cancel people with.
So... It's complicated. We've had 11,000 years to try to defeat tyranny, but idiocy is easier than intelligence, and that means tyranny is easier than freedom.
One day in the future people will be asked - did you know that Parler was actually founded by conservatives?
Parler: "We hate big tech!"
Also Parler: "Big Tech, please please pretty please help us survive."
Typically conservative, ain't it?
Except, Parler didn't say "We hate big tech!". People ON Parler did, but Parler didn't. You know where else you can find people saying "We hate big tech!"? Twitter, CZcams, Facebook, etc.
Not a super brain ya?
Parler is cringe.
"We found 100 offensive comments on your site, so we're shutting it down" 😁😁😁
Parler back now, well good, so maybe we can get Lou Dobbs back on?
Freedom of Speech is so precious and valuable to the American people. As I see it Parler may pass up Fox News as far as number of listeners. Hannity, Tucker Carlson, Huckabee, Laura Ingraham and just a few others are really good, however I have for a long time suspected that they have a gag-order/governor placed on them. Perhaps Lou Dobbs would not adhere to it?
Why facebook and Google get to decide what's right?
Because they are not public fora (i.e. not government run). The first amendment does not apply to them, and never will.
Parler signed a contract with Amazon, then broke the contract. Amazon canceled their service. It really is that simple.
Big tech controls society. That's the problem.
10:28 I think an important question to ask is why that rug existed to begin with. Perhaps it was formed under the context that we must all give something of value to the rug in order to have a conversation in which both parties can stand. The reason that rug went away is because one of the parties felt like their side of the conversation was being subjugated while the other had free rain. I don’t think there should be a rug, I think eventually everyone should come to terms with each other; however, the nature of 21st century American politics makes that impossible without first giving something up. What we need to do is talk to each other, but that means sitting in a room (or this case, a social media platform) and discussing our differences in a civilized manner until we agree on something.
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@@mcdougle5772 and the game stop stocks
Neutral lol.
Clearly it can,clearly CZcams is afraid of Parler and Dan the man bongino
When they say American people, they are talking about ultra right wing conservatives.
Is twitter only full of ultra left wing?
@@McGooness No, they are on MSNBC
Parker can easily move to a different server... it can easily survive without US big tech 🤣.
I’d move their servers overseas if I were them ... problem solved.
what's a troll account on parler? someone that spews facts?
😂
What Apple, Google and AWS did was likely unconstitutional, but unless you can find an activist lawyer, nobody has the resources to stand up to those companies as they have essentially an unlimited treasury and in house legal. I'm a free enterprise guy, but at this point the only way the encumbrances on freedom of expression via the App Store policy spigot, is to have government pass regulation that enables people to use their devices however they like, and break up the App Store monopolies. It's within the capacity of Apple to let people download apps however they wish, the same OS is underlying both mac and iOS. They don't do it because it gives them a form of soft political power, and they get their cut off the top. The only thing we can do is pressure representatives over the anti trust of app store around the world.
Ted Cruz rocks!
This is completely biased and one-sided.
yes, it’s cnbc.
Only court should order ban, not the big tech.
and big tech can choose who to do deal business wit, with reason
It's a private business they can do whatever they want. It's their platform, It's their servers, they own it they can do whatever the hell they want.
But what about freedom?
Well no - then that *WOULD* be a violation of the First Amendment.
Don’t shop Amazon if you can help it, I should of never bought this phone, I didn’t know
CNBC more like CPP
Osama bin Karen 😂
Thank God Parler is now BACK!! no more one-sided brainwashing. somewhere for the smart people and the let's be honest "The cool kids" to go
Notice how much better Parler is now. It used to lag (drove me crazy). But now that they've got rid of Amazon, it's a smooth running machine.
As an IT pro, my finger knows more than Cruz does. He does not know what he is talking about.
What happened to ethics officer in Google?
Wow! you're so smart.
By IT Pro you mean you work at a Verizon store?
This video contains less information but word "CONSERVATIVE" is full in plate
I wonder if the idiots who provided their social security number when signing up for parler also are waiting for their fortune from a Nigerian Prince
Parler never asked for social security numbers.
It doesnt ask for your social security number.
Lol the same number of Biden voters that figured out Joe is an idiot
Big brother owns your infrastructure lol
big tech reeling them in is just the free market bruh, thought conservatives love that stuff
Not when it's used against them
Or you
they said "If you don't like here go and create your own thing", they did that and you still try to censor them
Yea
Absolutely. Parler is going to take most of twatters customers.
Good, now you can cut each other throat about politics on Parler,
with all the politics maniacs are migrate to Parler. once again social media become an entertaining place
Lol you have a very narrow understanding of politics.
@@aoikemono6414 you too,
you should migrate to Parler and trash talk your political opposition there.
the sooner the better.
youtube, Instagram, facebook will become a much better place without Political warriors, we don't need any political trash on social media
@@aoikemono6414
I really hope most people are more reasonable than these extremists. I think we are destined for a civil war if the left keeps trying to curtail the rights of the right wing. There needs to be more critical thinking and listening in this country, and a heck of a lot less censorship. We are on a path that can be changed, but we are running out of time.
Try to visualize a mound of 40 million bodies. It blocks the horizon, darkens the land in shadow... It towers, like a mountain-- flower shop owners, musicians, programmers, children, mothers... Good people all dead because no one could think. That's our future if we stay the course.
I made a Parler just for trolling and I never got banned. I feel hurt.
What Parler?
Yes
So many people on here are so happy about other people being censored how about When your being censored about a topic that you actually care about . Censorship is a double edged sword When they're done with conservatives they're going to come for you !
Agreed, censorship is a double edged sword. On the other hand, I'm sure if it was Democrat voices being "censored", the Republicans would be on here touting Big Tech's right to do so. Hypocrisy is universal.
But, of course, it's not censorship. No free speech rights are being infringed, because it's a company doing it not the government.
It is not about you're on the right side or the left side. People always have different point of view. It is about big corporates which dictate you what you are supposed to think, watch, say. There's no more free speach in a space. You can say or think in a one and the only correct way even if that violate standards.
This is so typical. “Big Tech” basically being AWS. Parler could survive without being listed on any App Store. But they need someone to host. Facebook, Google, don’t directly have much power over that. Arguably Google Cloud but they didn’t sign w/ Google Cloud to begin with, so kinda unfair to single them out then.
can big tech Survive Without us
Twitter needs to be held responsible for their content. This double standard is nonsense
new custom OS & firmware for iPhone ?
Google and Apple: "What?! You allow freedom of speech?! We won't have any of that on _our_ app stores! There's no place for freedom of speech here.
so what EVERYBODY is saying is that there is not one other person on the entire planet that can compete? Don't you remember what happened to MySpace? IT can happen again
Buy infrastructure, buy Public IP, buy a data center, do ya thing. 🤭 (Most importantly buy private security!) OR pay Google or AWS to do this.
They should just use tons of microservices and split them between multiple providers. The same defence as torrents - you cannot be liable for something that you don't fully share.
The problem is that they can’t get any provider, not to mention multiple
Alot of people use browsers anyway, they'll survive.
Nope. It doesn't solve the database issues and security issues they will have, especially when they actually require things like your SOCIAL SECURITY # to create an account. Right before AWS pulled the plug, they were actually hacked and had their entire database downloaded. Not having an app heavily handicaps their ability to streamline engagement on a phone, especially notifications. They don't have the youngest or brightest userbase. Even the smallest hurdle is enough to stymie a significant portion.
@@aoikemono6414 👍🏿
@@aoikemono6414 Thats absurd, like they can't hire people to build and maintain their own servers. You think twitters executive board runs their servers? No, it'll increase the costs and I don't know why they didn't do that in the first place but to think they can't do that is ridiculous.
@@lancejames1916 if you finished the video, you would know how much work and cost it would take
You can always spend the money, but how fast can you recover it if ever?
@@yuichichi Maybe not but there is a lot of entrepreneurs that will fill that void and like I said just use browsers for people to log into. I'm not defending parler it was their own fault they didn't build their own servers but Amazon should have to give thdm compensation if you can just pull the plug on someones business its not right.