As someone who works for a specialty department in the veterinary field, it enrages me that these writers don’t seem to realize that veterinary cardiology specialists and exotics specialists EXIST and do these procedures EVERYDAY. Zoos literally have veterinary wings to take care of all the animals. There’s no way this animal wouldn’t be treated at the zoo in their surgical wing or, worst case, at a veterinary hospital.
such a good point, thank you. EVERY medical field (or every field in general for that matter) has excellent providers who are experts in their specialties!! this is a point I'm passionate about in the nursing field as well.
@@southcoastinventors6583 Oddly enough a fair amount of the less crazy stories are based on real life, there was an episode featuring a little boy with scurvy that was taken from the news and a story about an incel shooter that was based on Elliot Rogers.
@@kalenhuntley3508 yes! Most mamals react to medicine about the same way, but dosages varie ridiculously much, is not just their weight, but their metabolism.
Exactly, sometimes big animals use a human hospital to get a scan done, but it's always done by a VET and any procedures are done in the veterinary office not the human hospital
As a resident of Chicago, I can verify that there is no such thing as “The Chicago Zoo:” we have the Lincoln Park Zoo and the Brookfield Zoo. Neither has pandas. They really should have gone with a gorilla, we’ve got plenty of those!
also the fact that there is a real story of a gynecologist helping preform a c-section with a team of doctors on a gorilla to save the baby and the mother because the zoo was obviously not experienced enough to do such a procedure.
Fun fact, the first valve replacement surgery in a dog in Australia was done with both a veterinary surgery team and a human surgery team as us vets have little experience with this type of surgery!
Fun fact, the first valve replacement surgery in a dog in Australia was done with both a veterinary surgery team and a human surgery team as us vets have little experience with this type of surgery!
Are you a relative or long term friend of Dr. Mike?! If not do not disrespect the Doctor! You don't call a doctor just by their first name unless you know them like family! Show some respect!
@@lynnenewell2016Huh. In my country we do, so maybe it's just someone else whose first language also isn't english. We don't use titles like this in my language almost at all.
Yes, a panda heart and vascular system is dramatically similar to a human being. However, it's not done in a human hospital. It's done at the vet hospital located within the zoo. See the veterinarian hospital at the San Diego Zoological Society Safari Park in Escondido, California. We had a baby gorilla born here with a common heart defect some years ago. The vet phoned a cardiac surgeon at Children's Hospital. Ultimately, the animal got the best of care by doctors and nursing volunteers within the veterinary hospital in Escondido. The baby gorilla had volunteer ICU nurses around the clock.
My friend works as a MRI tech at a local vet hospital. They’re near one of the large zoos. She’s imaged many animals from the zoo because they don’t have an MRI machine - they’re stupidly expensive. Bald eagle, river otter, red maned wolf all have gone into the machine. This is standard practice. Zoos should have their own medical staff on hand, or a solid relationship to a nearby vet hospital.
In defense of the TV Show... In the past, there have been incidents where exceptions were made for special circumstances, particularly around rare and endangered animals in dire trouble at the zoos... things LIKE the pandas. AND yes, even human hospitals have allowed for bringing the animal in to be imaged and for loans of their specialized equipment to the zoo staff and associated veterinarians to use... BUT these (and there are very few) were very strictly kept at "one time only" situations and considered highly experimental at the time... For the occasions that it worked out or went well enough for "proof of concept", then the veterinary groups were empowered to move forward on developing their own tools and systems, which by nature of being "specific to veterinary science" were better developed to work with animals of species other than human or hominid... Some pretty great progress has come about because of experimental circumstances being allowed... The show DEFINITELY took liberties with just how willing or liberally the hospital would've treated zoo staff and imported vet's to oversee the panda procedure, and outside of the loan of an MRI or similar machine, as far as I know, the equipment and any personnel involved were dispatched to the zoo or an associated veterinary care facility (animal hospital or well enough staffed veterinary clinic)... The MRI's and such were just too big and sophisticated to loan out, so sometimes, yes, the animals had to be brought to the equipment as the most reasonable way to proceed. ;o)
most mammals are very similar. animal surgeons are just more experienced with different shapes and sizes of "patients"" thats why they have to complete "regular" med school and subsequent education first, before they can work on animals
The surgeon ordering random drugs to a panda is INSANE. The most common drugs used in humans can kill some species because their metabolism is different, they could lack certain enzyme or have enzyme transform them into dangerous or ineffective compounds.
That was my biggest problem with it too. The fact that they actively chose not to write in that they were helping an exotic vet or at teh very least had one on the phone 🤦♀.
Ummm, can I cite American writers? They've always pulled this kinda stuff in tv and movies... Also it's reminiscent of that episode of GA, when Izzie treated a deer.
@@m0t0b33 The deer surgery GA episode was the first thing that came to my mind lol. I swear, the writers of these shows are just like "it's a mammal! What's the difference?" and then roll a pregnant cat into the E.R for an OB/GYN exam.
@@nathanielcraig3588 at least in OTH they made it funny and it made more sense... the episode with the stoner and his dog in the ER, while Dan was waiting to get prepped for his transplant. That was genius writing LOL.
My appendix was ruptured for a week before the doctors figured out that’s what it was. We actually had to go to a different doctor because the first one I went to said it was just “period pain” 🙄. The infection ended up spreading to several other organs, and it was intense. That was 10 years ago, and I still deal with some side effects from how late the surgery was. I got lucky… Don’t wait!
@@tacticallemon7518I dont think its a woman thing. I just think this lady had a bad doctor who dismissed it as a female issue. Lots of people of both genders have bad experiences with doctors
right? the sad part is, i would 100% expect the vote to go exactly as it has (plus all the chat/comments OMG so realistic) IRL. Although, IRL this would probably not be allowed on any streaming platform, not a legit one anyway.
I noticed that at 7:21 , when Mike is saying that the girl shouldn't record a live in the hospital bc of the privacy of other patient, a comment is saying : "Though, as a nurse, definitely feel like they shouldn't livestream this" So the producers of the show definitely knew that this scene was normally not allow in the reality, but still keep this scene in their show 😂👌🏼 Btw I advised you to make a pause everytime we see the screen of the woman livestram, they literraly created an entire discussion and comment like : Oh no he's gonna not get treated ! Or : I voted yes you guys are so mean sometimes. That's so hilarious to read a false comment section 😂😂
It’s not technically allowed in hospitals most of the time, but it’s not a violation of hipaa for a patient to record. Even if they record other patients or records. A regular person who isn’t a covered entity or associate under hipaa, does not have to abide by it. Just like during the pandemic, when people threatened to sue stores for asking what conditions they had that prevented them from wearing masks. Those were not violations of hipaa. Grocery stores and retail stores and such, cannot violate hipaa. If any were sued, they went nowhere.
Very very oddly enough, my dad is a doctor and did his residency in rural Colombia (which is not known for having that many resources), so there were times when he DID have to donate his own blood for surgeries because of the lack of blood. He would then go back to work like usual. Doctors in third world countries really are tough
Speaking from experience as a veterinarian, there are specialized veterinary cardiologists that do cardiac surgery…I hate it when medical shows degrade veterinarians to not ‘real’ doctors because our patients aren’t human.
i really need to know: can you really put that kind of breathing tube shown in the scene (that’s meant for humans) into a panda? i know breathing tubes for animals exist, but like does it actually work / look like that?
@@annellleI can’t say for sure one way or another (panda/exotics vets are few and far between), but I’d imagine from a logistics side of things it would be difficult given they’d be trying to pull it out. Typically if they’re needing oxygen they either are in an oxygen kennel if they’re small enough (think cat or small to medium-ish size dog), have nasal lines put in for oxygen to go through if bigger, or are fully under anesthesia with an endotracheal tube down their throat with a ventilator breathing for them.
"When a real patient--'real patient', a HUMAN patient" ok but really, as a vet tech, that distinction means a lot to me. So many people, both in medicine and not I've seen brush off vetmed. No matter how silly the ep was, I appreciate the respect you clearly also have for vetmed/the animal human bond (seriously though, not how any of that works! A pig would be a better fit! "because people love pandas" WHO WROTE THIS)
@@mustang8206tell that to your vet next time your dog gets sick/an infection, it totally doesnt undermine their years of hard work and dedication in their field on anything 🙄
As someone who was trying to become a veterinarian in college the panda episode made me lose my shit. This would never happen in real life. There are actual exotic animal hospitals for this kind of stuff. Plus zoos also have veterinarians there on site to keep an eye on the animals health. I don’t understand why they thought bringing a panda to a human hospital was a good idea. Just stupid. Who seriously approved that episode. 🤦♀️
Plus the pathogen risk to human patients. NONE of those people were even wearing surgical masks! And they forgot to include the man with the rifle who's always on standby in case the several hundred pound animal with sharp teeth comes to during the middle of the surgery. AND!!!!! There's no way they'd allow a literal, actual bear (even a relatively "docile" one like a panda) to regain any form of consciousness in a hospital with other people standing literally, actually there with it. I'd love to see zoo vets react to that episode, honestly.
The thing that got me was they were just giving the panda medications whilly nilly without knowing anything about what medications and dossages pandas can have.
what makes it even funnier is there's an actual veterinarian there. Even if theyre not an exotics vet wouldnt they have a better idea of what to do, or have contact with someone who's actually worked with pandas?? Plus the whole ordering meds bit like that would translate to a panda and their weight totally fine!
I'd like to add that their reasoning was basically that the pandas are worth so much, any impact to human life is worthwhile. If they're worth that much, get an actual vet out! Preferably an appropriate exotic animal vet. At least a regular vet might have a better idea than a human... surgeon (?) about more appropriate doses and locations of organs, bones, etc.
Even I was surprised the first time I saw a dog in a hospital having an x-ray. Although it was only a regular procedure because most of the vet clinic in my area do not have all the medical equipment but they only do procedures that are done for animals using similar equipment and the main veterinary procedures are done by veterinarians. I does not really make sense because the doctors train on the human body and not other animals. I heard from a veterinarian that even they specialize on certain animals and cannot just do procedures especially on exotic animals (being exotic you don't get to train on operating on them or you'll just end up adding them to the endangered species list).
I am a veterinarian. We have specialties. We have surgeons. Wholes sometimes we do use hospital equipment such as MRI there is no need for a human doctor. Where did he learn bear anatomy? We are not just veterinarians. We are veterinary physicians and are on the same level of knowledge and sometimes better than human doctors. Have respect for pur professions Chicago med. How dare. And yes Mike you are correct they don't need any veterinarian. They need a wild animal veterinarian. Also they need a team of technicians that are trained in large animal surgery. Also how the hell did he just prescribe medication to a creature he doesn't even know? Dosages vary a lot depending on species(it's why you never give dog medication to cats). When veterinarians deal with exotic animals we are unfamiliar with we often have a technician with a dosage handbook that is prepared at any time to instruct with proper dosages. It's why usually veterinarians have libraries in clinic full of handbooks with illustrations and information on species differences.
Hahaha the panda bit made me laugh. My Grandfather was a successful Dentist and one time the Zoo had him come in to work on a tooth of a cougar (AKA puma/mountain lion). He said it was his most unusual patient. But he didn't do anything urgent like heart surgery- very few people die of needing a tooth crown. ALL the anesthesia and medicine was handled by the zoos veterinarians- he handled only its teeth. Because he's NOT A VET!
Something similar happened to my dad, who was a vet and got approached by a dentist (who was also a dog breeder) and his friend who had a trained bloodhound who was used to track down injured/shot game and had broke her jaw. My dad did the anesthesia and the dentist patched her up again. That's how they became friends until my dad passed away in 2004. The dentist not only had a bunch of dogs himself but was also active in a working dog club, so there was always a lot of stuff to do and this cooperation between the two resulted in a bunch of new patients for my dad.
There is value to involving human specialists because there are far fewer of us in the vet med field. But as you said, pretty much everything was handled by the vets besides the teeth and they’re all there making sure things are being done smoothly for the animal. I’ve seen zoos look for ophthalmologists too for example.
Always wondered if Dr. Mike could do a video with a veterinarian to discuss the difference but also similarities between the two. Plus, it would be interesting to know if a veterinarian in an emergency could treat a human well enough, as let's face it, we're basically apes.
I think they could probably do extreme first aid scenarios. Like if someone had their arm ripped off, or got hypothermia, or something I think a vet could handle those things. I think they could stabilize people until help arrived, but I'm not sure if they would feel comfortable/ethical doing a surgery. Not all vets know all animals; they will typically specialize (cats/dogs, livestock, exotics, etc). They have so much to learn even outside of school and I actually find veterinarians to possibly be more impressive than human doctors at times.
@@shroomyk similar impression regarding the ideas they might actually have to know more than human doctors as they probably have to know way more life forms... Though I guess human doctors might argue they have to know more because they have way more procedures/conditions to know about as their mistakes have more dire consequences (legally and morally, though to some losing an animal is equal on that level... Not putting any value on that statement as can become a heated topic discussion)
I know some vets that have treated themselves with drugs, IVs even sutured themselves but i don't think they'd do it on someone else especially without a license. Maybe as an emergency they are def better to have around than a lay person
Dr. Mike guessing everything in the medical show before it happens was so funny, he was so annoyed but couldn't help but continue to diagnose while he went lololol
I've just had appendicitis where the thing ruptured. It was the most painful thing I've ever experienced, it was like being on fire and getting stabbed at the same time. There is no way any sane person says no to treatment at that point.
Someone I know had theirs rupture. They just thought they had the flu bc they were throwing up and didn't feel good. When they went to the hospital, antibiotics were given. Their body had walled off the infection. After a week they were back at work. They never got their appendix taken out.
I had a doctor tell me I ha a high tolerance for pain when mine ruptured. I was on vacation for about a week when it happened. I had vomiting, alternating fever and chills and abdominal pain for a few days, but was still fully functional when I went to the ER. They originally didn't think it was appendicitis after the CT as I wasn't presenting any of the normal symptoms. Later they determined it had ruptured and formed an abscess.
While I understand that the experience can vary, my personal history of my appendix perforating suggests that not only is it not something you refuse treatment for, it's something you can't refuse treatment for, for long due to the delirium setting in.
There was a hippo born prematurely at the Cincinnati Zoo, and NICU staff from the children's hospital helped with her care. I remember seeing comments from many parents of children who had been born prematurely saying that following this hippo's progress had helped them. My mom liked hearing about the hippo's progress in part because of her experience with my brother's short NICU stay, and my brother was 14 when this happened. And aside from the emotional help this hippo gave to families of NICU babies, I'd imagine that doing procedures on a different species presents a great opportunity for professional development. It would make the person performing the procedure have to be more aware of anatomy and analogues structures in a way that they probably haven't had to think about for routine procedures in a while, as well as offering an excellent exercise in collaboration with other professionals, since the human medicine professionals would probably be far more adept in actually preforming the procedures whereas the vet medicine folks would have a better understanding of the anatomy.
I agree, there's definitely some great things that can come from different types of experts working together. I think the difference with this panda story is that it seems like (idk I didn't watch the full episode) they were doing all this in secret so if it failed then they'd just hide that it ever happened.
There are veterinary specialists that can do these procedures, just like in human medicine. Saying a human doctor could do a better job caring for an animal then a veterinary specialist is just wrong.
Watching the doctor that has to do the procedure being the only one, aside from you, that seems to realize how batshit crazy the whole situation is was hilarious to me.
Watching the doctor that has to do the procedure being the only one, aside from you, that seems to realize how batshit crazy the whole situation is was hilarious to me.
I had something similar to a catheterization lab done on my heart when I was a child. One of the valves in my heart wasn't opening up all the way. The doctor ran a tub up to my heart through a vein in my leg, blew up the balloon, and essentially ripped the valve open wider. Just had a cardiologist look at my heart via an echo for the first time in 20 years. He was amazed because he couldn't even detect anymore that I had even had heart surgery. I had had a total healing.
I would LOVE to see you react to some episodes of I Shouldn't Be Alive. It's all about people surviving the seemingly impossible, from being lost in the desert with no water, to falling off cliffs and dragging themselves to get help despite many broken bones, etc. (Plus, the re-enactments are always super high quality and well done).
My dad was diagnosed with Glioblastoma in October of 2010. He passed away from it in March of 2011, he was 51. He went from a very active person to being unable to walk. He was a volunteer firefighter and a truck diver.
I’m so sorry about your dad my granddad had a brain tumour removed and was deemed cancer free six weeks later he fell extremely poorly and killed him in an instant after getting pneumonia a month before Covid too so it could’ve been that it’s hard watching someone from being fine or better to an immediate decline and dying so I kinda get your loss it hurts and I hope your healing well x
Doctor Mike you need to start a youtube channel on biology lessons for high schoolers and post-secondary students because what I learn in class was never explained properly, but by watching your video I learned so much more with how simple you explain it.
My little sister got the keyhole surgery for appendicitis, two years after I got part of my stomach removed for the same thing. 39 years later, I still have a 4"*½" scar across my tummy. It had apparently been huge, full of really yucky stuff, and about to burst. The surgeon came to see me the following day, absolutely thrilled to have done the op. Partially because he said that arriving half an hour later could have been fatal, but because he managed to get it out in one go and pickle it. He apologized to me - an 18 year-old who _hates_ hospitals! - for not showing it to me. Some doctors are freaking nuts! Don't get me wrong, I'm genuinely still very grateful he saved my life, but he was absolutely warped 😂.
For the record, yes that is the device that does chest compressions. It is used in the vitrification process currently used, as they think we'd need to replace the blood with something more akin to antifreeze so it won't expand when solidifying at low temperatures, otherwise that expanding and blood would form spikes that'd rupture cells and damage veins/arteries/organs. To replace the blood with another fluid, you'd need the heart to continue pumping, ergo, chest compressions chest compressions chest compressions.
As someone works in vet med. Stay away from the panda 😂 that's a wildlife vets expertise😅 Edit to add: When they sleep, their pulse beats 70-120 BPM, awake it's approximately 100 BPM and they have a respiration rate of 20-40 times per minute. Adults eat up to 40kgs of bamboo a day 🤣
Usually I just have fun watching doc Mike laugh while I pretend to understand what he's saying medically, but this is such a crazy episode of this series I am laughing at the same time as Mike and for the same reasons, LOL
One of my dad's friends was diagnosed with a glioblastoma last year, shortly after I was diagnosed with AML. Last I heard, she'd had a surgery that removed most of the tumor and was responding well to radiation and chemo. I should ask my dad if he's gotten any further updates. I'm currently one year cancer-free, though of course my doctor and I are still on the lookout for relapse.
The CPR machine at 15:30 actually turns out to be necessary. Tom Scott did a video on Storing dead people at -196°C where they mention they need to do cpr to keep everything oxygenated untill the body is cooled down enough.
12:07 that's what happened to my dad: lost feeling in his hand on december 1st 2018, he got to the hospital just in time before he had a seizure, moved to another hospital, got surgery on december 6th, started chemo/radio therapy soon after, passed away june 22nd.
I don’t think anyone understands the excitement that entered my body when I opened CZcams and saw this video. I religiously watch all three Chicago shows (Fire, PD, Med) and have seen almost all of Mike’s videos. This video made my day! Thanks Dr. Mike!
I had a stent put in a few weeks ago on July 17, it's amazing it can be done so easily, the cardiologist went in through my wrist and i got to watch the whole thing on the same screen he used, even-do it was happening to me, it was still kind of awesome to see 😀
I just recently binged the entirety of Chicago Med, and I have to say, it's one of the best medical shows ever. Yes it has some goofy stuff, but generally it's so good. Great video Mike! ❤
I've wanted to watch it, but I find that the Chicago shows have so many crossovers you have to watch them all, and I don't have that kind of time. Although, if the Writer Guild and SAG-AFTRA strikes continue, I might get there :)
@@dietcokeofleftistsyou certainly don't have to watch all of them, I don't. But there was one episode about an outbreak in an apartment building that was done on all three shows. I only saw the Med portion.
@@dietcokeofleftists In my own experience its not too bad. Whilst they do have story arcs, its not full on anime level, so you can watch episodes out of order without getting lost too much. And there are sites to keep track of the crossover episodes, like wikipedia.
It was a chest compression machine. The cryogenic process includes keeping circulation going while adding in a biological antifreeze compound and draining the blood. It apparently works best using the heart itself rather than a bypass machine. The antifreeze compound replaces all the fluids in the body, so the cells can be cooled to liquid nitrogen temperatures without the fluids freezing - which would shred the cells.
Please do more of these! The show looks great but as a non-doctor its great to have someone explain the terminology and so allowing me to understand. Great video Doc!
8:50 I actually went home from work one day because I thought I had food poisoning. Lots of cramping that evening, then I was super sore the next day, but I felt better so I went to work. After a week of being sore and having a low fever I went to the hospital to find my appendix had ruptured but my body walled it off and formed an abscess instead of me going septic. Had to spend a few days getting that sucker drained, then another month for it to close up before taking the little bugger out. Bottom line don't be like me, folks. If something hurts, see a doctor.
15:50 idk why Dr mike didn't mention this right away but the first thing that struck me was: Ethan clearly knew what was going on fairly quickly, he was cautious. So why didn't he put himself BETWEEN the door and the dude, or at least try to? At the **very** least, there is no way someone as experienced with physical combat as ethan would not be fully aware of exactly what is going on and tackle the dude INTO the hallway rather than further into the room where he and anything that spilt could be isolated. We've seen many times in this show how good ethan is at this kinda thing but also how much he is willing to sacrifice himself for the good of others, he did in this episode too. There's simply no way ethan would tackle the dude in the direction he did.
Even in a world where human doctors DID operate on animals, everyone's smug faces looking like, "you WILL do this, like it or not☺" would make me decline no matter what. Hahahaha.
I love Mike’s vids because I enjoy watching him a) get really frustrated with things like this and b) go on and on and ON with random long medical related words 🤷♀ Keep up the great work Mike!
My mother died from Glioblastoma Multiforme. It was cruel, unmerciful, and I lost her in 2003. I still miss her. Is it genetic? I was told it's not, but now I'm scared. She passed at at age 67. I'm going to be 60 in October.
Doctor Mike missed one. 'Universal donor' doesn't work for whole blood transfusions; they have to be an ABO match. This is because the donor/receiver chart is inverted for plasma. O- is universal donor for /red cells/, but for plasma, AB is universal donor, and O is universal receiver. (Rh factor (the +/-) doesn't matter for plasma transfusions.)
I honestly saw an episode of Court Cam where someone was performing plastic surgery while on Zoom taking care of a traffic ticket. They respectfully ended the Zoom and scheduled it for a later day
i was watching this in the hospital last night haha was kept in for observation but your vids always get me thinking so i was very observant whilst there ahah
I enjoy watching these medical drama vids but can we all appreciate the panda. They have a really promising career in their future. Hope to see them in more shows
The cryogenic thing is somewhat accurate actually. The process is indeed called vitrification and they do the chest compressions thing! Tom Scott did a very interesting video on that a few days ago
I’ve had appendicitis that perforated I was throwing up so bad that I was too dehydrated to get a clear scan and this small hospital in the middle of nowhere Kentucky said I just had a stomach ache and tried to give me medicine. My mom, fearing some thing was much worse decided to get me released and go to the Children’s Hospital in Louisville we waited in the waiting room for hours when my mom eventually freaked out, they admitted that the other hospital had called them and warned them about us. I was eventually able to get a clear enough scan to show that I had appendicitis and it already ruptured I was put under for an emergency surgery and I ended up being OK. We tried our best to sue the other hospital, but we were just burning money and we were pretty poor and we couldn’t afford it.
I love watching Doctor Mikes vids. And I love when he reacts to shows and just gets frustrated because of the medical inaccuracy or from the random things in it😂❤also what happened to your finger?
Hey Doctor just wondering if you could make a video on a good workout. I'm not sure if this is something that you'd do but, I think many people would be interested in it.
1:51 when i hear Mike say "your heart problem is complicated" i was literally thinking bout the Em song then he reads my mind and brings up the Em song... wild
I love Chicago med mostly because of their focus on mental health and psychiatry in more of their episodes than most of the other medical dramas ever did, or at least to a higher degree than they did, but I never understood the panda episode, my coworker who works part time with me is a vet tech for their day job and it made no sense to me given everything she’s talked about regarding veterinary medicine.
Have to echo the person commenting about the San Diego Zoo we here in Columbus have the same collaboration with specialists at OSU Wexner Med Center. They go to the Zoo's Hospital. Cardiologists Oncologists etc.
In case you’re curious too: An adult giant panda has a normal body temperature between 36.5-37.5 degrees Celsius. When they sleep, their pulse beats 70-120 times per minute, and they have a respiration rate of 20-40 times per minute.
At 17:34, you mention that this could never happen because they couldn't test her blood beforehand. But here in NZ, they only regularly test donated blood for 4 diseases (HIV, Hep B & C, Syphilis, not uncommon diseases, but also not THAT common, plus often have symptoms that a doc would recognise) In a situation where blood was not available, wouldn't this method be relatively low risk, especially if the patient is bleeding out?
Hello! I’m a laboratory tech licensed in Immunohematology (Blood bank). Donated Blood isn’t only tested for these diseases but also tested for antibodies that could potentially fetal if the patient has those antigens present. This could cause the patients body to see the donated blood as foreign and kill off the blood cells (lysis). This is incredibly inaccurate. Blood also has to be signed off and documented by us techs and doctors before it is transfused. Blood is also stored at temps between 2-8 C. I have not heard of transfusions being done directly from a donor (at least at our hospital).
Also I'd think that if someone lost so much blood that it's very likely to be fetal than the donnar would also need to donate so much blood that it's very dangerous for them. If it's not that bad yet then yes not a low risk situation for the patient
3:40 there is a reason pandas are going extinct. Their only survival tactic that works is that they are cute. They are clumsy to a fault. They don’t climb well and have very little center of gravity. They are hard pressed to mate- so much so that they’ve had to show videos of pandas mating and zookeepers physically had to arouse them. They also don’t have a “home base”- they’ll plop anywhere and go to sleep. Doesn’t matter where. Also their diet is stupid. It ALMOST burns more energy to eat bamboo that it has in calories. The only reason pandas get so large is because if they aren’t eating- they are sleeping. They should have been extinct years ago even without poaching and trapping.
This is exactly why I don't watch Medical dramas... or cop dramas.... or court room dramas.... At the end of the day I find more realism in tv shows about vampires and aliens.
I regret doing a laparoscopic appendectomy. It wasn’t explained to me that in my case it largely didn’t matter if I did open or not, cause I’m a very small person with minimal fat. What wound up happening is that the gas they pumped me with to do it laparoscopically wound up causing extreme nerve pain in my shoulders. I was genuinely convinced the doctors dropped me when I woke up. I also feel like it made my belly looked saggy and blocky for months afterwards. Don’t let doctors get away with not giving you information like this beforehand. Both of those things could have been avoided if they didn’t just wave me off like my choices didn’t matter.
my parents watch this show all the time, they never miss an episode - and every time i pass by the tv when its on im thinking about what mike thinks of a particular scene, lmao. this channel has changed my way of thinking permanently.
I was really surprised to see that most (well maybe over half) of the procedures and diagnoses on the Chicago Med clips were actually correct according to Dr. Mike! That is usually NOT the case!
As someone who works for a specialty department in the veterinary field, it enrages me that these writers don’t seem to realize that veterinary cardiology specialists and exotics specialists EXIST and do these procedures EVERYDAY. Zoos literally have veterinary wings to take care of all the animals. There’s no way this animal wouldn’t be treated at the zoo in their surgical wing or, worst case, at a veterinary hospital.
Wouldn't you just send the panda back to China? It's just a rental.
@@immikeurnot 😂
As a 4th year vet student, I agree wholeheartedly.
such a good point, thank you. EVERY medical field (or every field in general for that matter) has excellent providers who are experts in their specialties!! this is a point I'm passionate about in the nursing field as well.
@@immikeurnot No, China would probably send people and resources in to operate.
As someone who watched this show religiously, watching someone see the decline into nonsense without knowing what was happening was hilarious.
The panda was literally Season 2
If it was based on real life no one would watch it
@@Justice237 That's how I missed it. Thank you for the info.
@@southcoastinventors6583 Oddly enough a fair amount of the less crazy stories are based on real life, there was an episode featuring a little boy with scurvy that was taken from the news and a story about an incel shooter that was based on Elliot Rogers.
I still watch it religiously, lol and now a friend got me obsessed with Grey's Anatomy
My favourite thing about the panda episode is how Dr Rhodes is reacting the same as Doctor Mike is and just can't believe how stupid the situation is.
The thing that's really dumb about it is a zoo would call an on call exotic veterinarian instead of sending it to a human ER
@@kalenhuntley3508 yes! Most mamals react to medicine about the same way, but dosages varie ridiculously much, is not just their weight, but their metabolism.
Ngl in the inrto I thought it was a polar bear-
Exactly, sometimes big animals use a human hospital to get a scan done, but it's always done by a VET and any procedures are done in the veterinary office not the human hospital
Dr Rhodes and Dr Charles were the voice of reason in this show lol
As a resident of Chicago, I can verify that there is no such thing as “The Chicago Zoo:” we have the Lincoln Park Zoo and the Brookfield Zoo. Neither has pandas. They really should have gone with a gorilla, we’ve got plenty of those!
I simply have to believe that this takes place in an alternate universe Chicago
also the fact that there is a real story of a gynecologist helping preform a c-section with a team of doctors on a gorilla to save the baby and the mother because the zoo was obviously not experienced enough to do such a procedure.
Mostly because Pandas are expensive, and hard to get. They’re leased out by the Chinese government.
*DONT MAKE THE JOKE DONT MAKE THE JOKE DONT MAKE THE JOKE DONT MAKE THE JOKE*
I agree with you 100% I wish Brooks or Lincoln had a panda tho lol but our zoos are not going to fund that
Fun fact, the first valve replacement surgery in a dog in Australia was done with both a veterinary surgery team and a human surgery team as us vets have little experience with this type of surgery!
Fun fact, the first valve replacement surgery in a dog in Australia was done with both a veterinary surgery team and a human surgery team as us vets have little experience with this type of surgery!
And I think that’s great. We need to bridge the gap between human and animal doctors, but not like this show does.
i love when mike watches medical dramas because it’s so funny to see him confused/ frustrated 💀
The him being confused part is priceless 😅😅
Are you a relative or long term friend of Dr. Mike?! If not do not disrespect the Doctor! You don't call a doctor just by their first name unless you know them like family! Show some respect!
@@lynnenewell2016 lmao
@@lynnenewell2016Huh. In my country we do, so maybe it's just someone else whose first language also isn't english. We don't use titles like this in my language almost at all.
@@lynnenewell2016 weird ass
Yes, a panda heart and vascular system is dramatically similar to a human being. However, it's not done in a human hospital. It's done at the vet hospital located within the zoo. See the veterinarian hospital at the San Diego Zoological Society Safari Park in Escondido, California. We had a baby gorilla born here with a common heart defect some years ago. The vet phoned a cardiac surgeon at Children's Hospital. Ultimately, the animal got the best of care by doctors and nursing volunteers within the veterinary hospital in Escondido. The baby gorilla had volunteer ICU nurses around the clock.
My friend works as a MRI tech at a local vet hospital. They’re near one of the large zoos. She’s imaged many animals from the zoo because they don’t have an MRI machine - they’re stupidly expensive. Bald eagle, river otter, red maned wolf all have gone into the machine. This is standard practice. Zoos should have their own medical staff on hand, or a solid relationship to a nearby vet hospital.
In defense of the TV Show... In the past, there have been incidents where exceptions were made for special circumstances, particularly around rare and endangered animals in dire trouble at the zoos... things LIKE the pandas. AND yes, even human hospitals have allowed for bringing the animal in to be imaged and for loans of their specialized equipment to the zoo staff and associated veterinarians to use... BUT these (and there are very few) were very strictly kept at "one time only" situations and considered highly experimental at the time...
For the occasions that it worked out or went well enough for "proof of concept", then the veterinary groups were empowered to move forward on developing their own tools and systems, which by nature of being "specific to veterinary science" were better developed to work with animals of species other than human or hominid... Some pretty great progress has come about because of experimental circumstances being allowed...
The show DEFINITELY took liberties with just how willing or liberally the hospital would've treated zoo staff and imported vet's to oversee the panda procedure, and outside of the loan of an MRI or similar machine, as far as I know, the equipment and any personnel involved were dispatched to the zoo or an associated veterinary care facility (animal hospital or well enough staffed veterinary clinic)... The MRI's and such were just too big and sophisticated to loan out, so sometimes, yes, the animals had to be brought to the equipment as the most reasonable way to proceed. ;o)
Fascinating
most mammals are very similar. animal surgeons are just more experienced with different shapes and sizes of "patients"" thats why they have to complete "regular" med school and subsequent education first, before they can work on animals
Yes then if they performed the surgery at the zoo it wouldn't be Chicago Med, It would be realistic.
The surgeon ordering random drugs to a panda is INSANE.
The most common drugs used in humans can kill some species because their metabolism is different, they could lack certain enzyme or have enzyme transform them into dangerous or ineffective compounds.
That was my biggest problem with it too. The fact that they actively chose not to write in that they were helping an exotic vet or at teh very least had one on the phone 🤦♀.
Ummm, can I cite American writers? They've always pulled this kinda stuff in tv and movies... Also it's reminiscent of that episode of GA, when Izzie treated a deer.
@@m0t0b33 The deer surgery GA episode was the first thing that came to my mind lol.
I swear, the writers of these shows are just like "it's a mammal! What's the difference?" and then roll a pregnant cat into the E.R for an OB/GYN exam.
@@nathanielcraig3588 at least in OTH they made it funny and it made more sense... the episode with the stoner and his dog in the ER, while Dan was waiting to get prepped for his transplant. That was genius writing LOL.
Meh pandas won't reproduce to save their species. They have a death wish anyway. Just let them go
As a vet student, I'd be so mad if a random human surgeon came and stole my patient HAHA
My appendix was ruptured for a week before the doctors figured out that’s what it was. We actually had to go to a different doctor because the first one I went to said it was just “period pain” 🙄. The infection ended up spreading to several other organs, and it was intense. That was 10 years ago, and I still deal with some side effects from how late the surgery was. I got lucky… Don’t wait!
The bad part is I didn’t even have to read until “period pain” to know you must be afab for doctors to dismiss your pain so much
gotta love medical misogyny
Yea, it’s kinda scary how doctors can just… not do something because “woman”
@@minecraftmeli512 afab is a meaningless term. She’s a woman. Only one definition for that.
@@tacticallemon7518I dont think its a woman thing. I just think this lady had a bad doctor who dismissed it as a female issue. Lots of people of both genders have bad experiences with doctors
The pure elation on Mike's face when he said he could be a panda doctor too was excellent
I love how smitten he is in this video:) true happiness lol
i want dr mike to make a "im a panda dr" shirt
He's trying to decide if it's too late to switch fields lmao
The pure elation on Mike's face when he said he could be a panfa doctor too was excellent
Even though Dr Mike is not pregnant he never fails to deliver 💀
Bro, no.
Dude. Yes. 😂
Dad joke gold 🥇
worst joke i've heard all day
This joke never makes sense. The mother does not deliver the baby, the doctor does.
Bro the psychiatrist is actually a genius for being his age and understanding the sadistic nature of stream viewers
I agree. And sadists are disgusting
@@lillybarnett4027 Unless you are a masochist. Then it's a perfect pair. A perfect, unhealthy, dysfunctional pair.
Bro the psychiatrist is actually a genius for being his agr and understanding the sadistic nature of stream viewers
@@Blasted2Oblivionit depends on the levels of sadism and masochism...Sometimes it can be controlled but yeah there are limits of it
right? the sad part is, i would 100% expect the vote to go exactly as it has (plus all the chat/comments OMG so realistic) IRL. Although, IRL this would probably not be allowed on any streaming platform, not a legit one anyway.
I noticed that at 7:21 , when Mike is saying that the girl shouldn't record a live in the hospital bc of the privacy of other patient, a comment is saying : "Though, as a nurse, definitely feel like they shouldn't livestream this"
So the producers of the show definitely knew that this scene was normally not allow in the reality, but still keep this scene in their show 😂👌🏼
Btw I advised you to make a pause everytime we see the screen of the woman livestram, they literraly created an entire discussion and comment like : Oh no he's gonna not get treated ! Or : I voted yes you guys are so mean sometimes.
That's so hilarious to read a false comment section 😂😂
😂😂 it was hilarious but i feel like I need closure now, like what happens after?, does he break up with his gf? Will he do an apology video??
It’s not technically allowed in hospitals most of the time, but it’s not a violation of hipaa for a patient to record. Even if they record other patients or records. A regular person who isn’t a covered entity or associate under hipaa, does not have to abide by it. Just like during the pandemic, when people threatened to sue stores for asking what conditions they had that prevented them from wearing masks. Those were not violations of hipaa. Grocery stores and retail stores and such, cannot violate hipaa. If any were sued, they went nowhere.
When they asked about him jumping, one comment read “yaaassss”
Very very oddly enough, my dad is a doctor and did his residency in rural Colombia (which is not known for having that many resources), so there were times when he DID have to donate his own blood for surgeries because of the lack of blood. He would then go back to work like usual. Doctors in third world countries really are tough
respect for your father.
🇨🇴🇨🇴🇨🇴🇨🇴🇨🇴🇨🇴🇨🇴Colombia el mejor pais del mundo
@@bealu9459not even close lmfao
@@SnailHatanhey bro he loves his country. lay off fool.
Speaking from experience as a veterinarian, there are specialized veterinary cardiologists that do cardiac surgery…I hate it when medical shows degrade veterinarians to not ‘real’ doctors because our patients aren’t human.
An MD is just a vet that’s only trained to treat one species 😂
i really need to know: can you really put that kind of breathing tube shown in the scene (that’s meant for humans) into a panda? i know breathing tubes for animals exist, but like does it actually work / look like that?
@@annellleI can’t say for sure one way or another (panda/exotics vets are few and far between), but I’d imagine from a logistics side of things it would be difficult given they’d be trying to pull it out. Typically if they’re needing oxygen they either are in an oxygen kennel if they’re small enough (think cat or small to medium-ish size dog), have nasal lines put in for oxygen to go through if bigger, or are fully under anesthesia with an endotracheal tube down their throat with a ventilator breathing for them.
Well they aren't physicians but they are doctors
"When a real patient--'real patient', a HUMAN patient" ok but really, as a vet tech, that distinction means a lot to me. So many people, both in medicine and not I've seen brush off vetmed. No matter how silly the ep was, I appreciate the respect you clearly also have for vetmed/the animal human bond (seriously though, not how any of that works! A pig would be a better fit! "because people love pandas" WHO WROTE THIS)
They aren't real patients just pets at best
@@mustang8206tell that to your vet next time your dog gets sick/an infection, it totally doesnt undermine their years of hard work and dedication in their field on anything 🙄
@@mustang8206oh, ok, so vets aren't real doctors?
@@mustang8206oh, ok, so then are vets not real doctors?
@@cb6651 Treating patients doesn't make you a doctor, having a doctorate does. So even though vets don't treat patients they are doctors
As someone who was trying to become a veterinarian in college the panda episode made me lose my shit. This would never happen in real life. There are actual exotic animal hospitals for this kind of stuff. Plus zoos also have veterinarians there on site to keep an eye on the animals health. I don’t understand why they thought bringing a panda to a human hospital was a good idea. Just stupid. Who seriously approved that episode. 🤦♀️
Plus the pathogen risk to human patients. NONE of those people were even wearing surgical masks! And they forgot to include the man with the rifle who's always on standby in case the several hundred pound animal with sharp teeth comes to during the middle of the surgery. AND!!!!! There's no way they'd allow a literal, actual bear (even a relatively "docile" one like a panda) to regain any form of consciousness in a hospital with other people standing literally, actually there with it. I'd love to see zoo vets react to that episode, honestly.
The thing that got me was they were just giving the panda medications whilly nilly without knowing anything about what medications and dossages pandas can have.
what makes it even funnier is there's an actual veterinarian there. Even if theyre not an exotics vet wouldnt they have a better idea of what to do, or have contact with someone who's actually worked with pandas?? Plus the whole ordering meds bit like that would translate to a panda and their weight totally fine!
I'd like to add that their reasoning was basically that the pandas are worth so much, any impact to human life is worthwhile. If they're worth that much, get an actual vet out! Preferably an appropriate exotic animal vet.
At least a regular vet might have a better idea than a human... surgeon (?) about more appropriate doses and locations of organs, bones, etc.
Even I was surprised the first time I saw a dog in a hospital having an x-ray. Although it was only a regular procedure because most of the vet clinic in my area do not have all the medical equipment but they only do procedures that are done for animals using similar equipment and the main veterinary procedures are done by veterinarians. I does not really make sense because the doctors train on the human body and not other animals. I heard from a veterinarian that even they specialize on certain animals and cannot just do procedures especially on exotic animals (being exotic you don't get to train on operating on them or you'll just end up adding them to the endangered species list).
7:26 the comments in the livestream are telling the doctor to get on with it, but then when he does they vote "no" to him sitting down lol
I am a veterinarian. We have specialties. We have surgeons. Wholes sometimes we do use hospital equipment such as MRI there is no need for a human doctor. Where did he learn bear anatomy? We are not just veterinarians. We are veterinary physicians and are on the same level of knowledge and sometimes better than human doctors. Have respect for pur professions Chicago med. How dare.
And yes Mike you are correct they don't need any veterinarian. They need a wild animal veterinarian. Also they need a team of technicians that are trained in large animal surgery.
Also how the hell did he just prescribe medication to a creature he doesn't even know? Dosages vary a lot depending on species(it's why you never give dog medication to cats). When veterinarians deal with exotic animals we are unfamiliar with we often have a technician with a dosage handbook that is prepared at any time to instruct with proper dosages. It's why usually veterinarians have libraries in clinic full of handbooks with illustrations and information on species differences.
Hahaha the panda bit made me laugh. My Grandfather was a successful Dentist and one time the Zoo had him come in to work on a tooth of a cougar (AKA puma/mountain lion). He said it was his most unusual patient. But he didn't do anything urgent like heart surgery- very few people die of needing a tooth crown. ALL the anesthesia and medicine was handled by the zoos veterinarians- he handled only its teeth. Because he's NOT A VET!
Something similar happened to my dad, who was a vet and got approached by a dentist (who was also a dog breeder) and his friend who had a trained bloodhound who was used to track down injured/shot game and had broke her jaw. My dad did the anesthesia and the dentist patched her up again. That's how they became friends until my dad passed away in 2004. The dentist not only had a bunch of dogs himself but was also active in a working dog club, so there was always a lot of stuff to do and this cooperation between the two resulted in a bunch of new patients for my dad.
There is value to involving human specialists because there are far fewer of us in the vet med field. But as you said, pretty much everything was handled by the vets besides the teeth and they’re all there making sure things are being done smoothly for the animal.
I’ve seen zoos look for ophthalmologists too for example.
@@adrianaheiler9794I’m so sorry for your loss
As a very experienced panda liker, I can verify that everything they were doing was correct
REALLY?!
as a panda myself, i can confirm they saved him
@@mentalretardation69420 As someone who sometimes plays a panda at the zoo, I can confirm panda hearts are exactly like human hearts
@@RJiiFin as someone who has eaten at several Chinese buffets, I believe you
As someone who occasionally goes to the zoo, I can confirm that a pandas heart is the same as a humans.
Always wondered if Dr. Mike could do a video with a veterinarian to discuss the difference but also similarities between the two. Plus, it would be interesting to know if a veterinarian in an emergency could treat a human well enough, as let's face it, we're basically apes.
I think they could probably do extreme first aid scenarios. Like if someone had their arm ripped off, or got hypothermia, or something I think a vet could handle those things. I think they could stabilize people until help arrived, but I'm not sure if they would feel comfortable/ethical doing a surgery. Not all vets know all animals; they will typically specialize (cats/dogs, livestock, exotics, etc). They have so much to learn even outside of school and I actually find veterinarians to possibly be more impressive than human doctors at times.
@@shroomyk similar impression regarding the ideas they might actually have to know more than human doctors as they probably have to know way more life forms... Though I guess human doctors might argue they have to know more because they have way more procedures/conditions to know about as their mistakes have more dire consequences (legally and morally, though to some losing an animal is equal on that level... Not putting any value on that statement as can become a heated topic discussion)
I know some vets that have treated themselves with drugs, IVs even sutured themselves but i don't think they'd do it on someone else especially without a license. Maybe as an emergency they are def better to have around than a lay person
someone who specializes in primate surgery could probably do it. but the further you go back in the tree, the more differences you find.
@@bryaneberly3588 "Patient stopped purring! SHOCK!"
Dr. Mike guessing everything in the medical show before it happens was so funny, he was so annoyed but couldn't help but continue to diagnose while he went lololol
THE IRONY IS THAT the police officer reaches for it’s gun when the panda wakes up 😂 seems like a good decision pal .
5:45
I've just had appendicitis where the thing ruptured. It was the most painful thing I've ever experienced, it was like being on fire and getting stabbed at the same time. There is no way any sane person says no to treatment at that point.
Someone I know had theirs rupture. They just thought they had the flu bc they were throwing up and didn't feel good. When they went to the hospital, antibiotics were given. Their body had walled off the infection. After a week they were back at work. They never got their appendix taken out.
I had a doctor tell me I ha a high tolerance for pain when mine ruptured. I was on vacation for about a week when it happened. I had vomiting, alternating fever and chills and abdominal pain for a few days, but was still fully functional when I went to the ER. They originally didn't think it was appendicitis after the CT as I wasn't presenting any of the normal symptoms. Later they determined it had ruptured and formed an abscess.
@@gordatadosholy sheet that's kinda cool
true
While I understand that the experience can vary, my personal history of my appendix perforating suggests that not only is it not something you refuse treatment for, it's something you can't refuse treatment for, for long due to the delirium setting in.
There was a hippo born prematurely at the Cincinnati Zoo, and NICU staff from the children's hospital helped with her care. I remember seeing comments from many parents of children who had been born prematurely saying that following this hippo's progress had helped them. My mom liked hearing about the hippo's progress in part because of her experience with my brother's short NICU stay, and my brother was 14 when this happened.
And aside from the emotional help this hippo gave to families of NICU babies, I'd imagine that doing procedures on a different species presents a great opportunity for professional development. It would make the person performing the procedure have to be more aware of anatomy and analogues structures in a way that they probably haven't had to think about for routine procedures in a while, as well as offering an excellent exercise in collaboration with other professionals, since the human medicine professionals would probably be far more adept in actually preforming the procedures whereas the vet medicine folks would have a better understanding of the anatomy.
Her name is Fiona and she is adorable
FIONA!!! I go there very often to see her and her new bro Fritz. Super cool!
Fiona, we know this has been news for a long time.
I agree, there's definitely some great things that can come from different types of experts working together. I think the difference with this panda story is that it seems like (idk I didn't watch the full episode) they were doing all this in secret so if it failed then they'd just hide that it ever happened.
There are veterinary specialists that can do these procedures, just like in human medicine. Saying a human doctor could do a better job caring for an animal then a veterinary specialist is just wrong.
Watching the doctor that has to do the procedure being the only one, aside from you, that seems to realize how batshit crazy the whole situation is was hilarious to me.
Watching the doctor that has to do the procedure being the only one, aside from you, that seems to realize how batshit crazy the whole situation is was hilarious to me.
This is like watching medical shows with my parents, a pulmonologist and an ICU nurse, their reactions are even more entertaining!
I had something similar to a catheterization lab done on my heart when I was a child. One of the valves in my heart wasn't opening up all the way. The doctor ran a tub up to my heart through a vein in my leg, blew up the balloon, and essentially ripped the valve open wider. Just had a cardiologist look at my heart via an echo for the first time in 20 years. He was amazed because he couldn't even detect anymore that I had even had heart surgery. I had had a total healing.
I would LOVE to see you react to some episodes of I Shouldn't Be Alive. It's all about people surviving the seemingly impossible, from being lost in the desert with no water, to falling off cliffs and dragging themselves to get help despite many broken bones, etc. (Plus, the re-enactments are always super high quality and well done).
I love it when Mike gets frustrated when they are not true😂
it is quite true, plausible even. It's just that it is so darn silly
I love it when Mike gets frustrated when they are not true😂
My dad was diagnosed with Glioblastoma in October of 2010. He passed away from it in March of 2011, he was 51. He went from a very active person to being unable to walk. He was a volunteer firefighter and a truck diver.
I’m so sorry about your dad my granddad had a brain tumour removed and was deemed cancer free six weeks later he fell extremely poorly
and killed him in an instant after getting pneumonia a month before Covid too so it could’ve been that it’s hard watching someone from being fine or better to an immediate decline and dying so I kinda get your loss it hurts and I hope your healing well x
My dad was just diagnosed in June 😢 68. I’m so sorry to hear you went through it
Doctor Mike you need to start a youtube channel on biology lessons for high schoolers and post-secondary students because what I learn in class was never explained properly, but by watching your video I learned so much more with how simple you explain it.
I adore this. I could watch a whole series of Doctor Mike reacting to a Chicago Med. Please do more!
My little sister got the keyhole surgery for appendicitis, two years after I got part of my stomach removed for the same thing. 39 years later, I still have a 4"*½" scar across my tummy. It had apparently been huge, full of really yucky stuff, and about to burst.
The surgeon came to see me the following day, absolutely thrilled to have done the op. Partially because he said that arriving half an hour later could have been fatal, but because he managed to get it out in one go and pickle it. He apologized to me - an 18 year-old who _hates_ hospitals! - for not showing it to me. Some doctors are freaking nuts! Don't get me wrong, I'm genuinely still very grateful he saved my life, but he was absolutely warped 😂.
Maybe that's his shtick for getting the patient's mind off from feeling sick. By making them sick with his stories.
For the record, yes that is the device that does chest compressions. It is used in the vitrification process currently used, as they think we'd need to replace the blood with something more akin to antifreeze so it won't expand when solidifying at low temperatures, otherwise that expanding and blood would form spikes that'd rupture cells and damage veins/arteries/organs. To replace the blood with another fluid, you'd need the heart to continue pumping, ergo, chest compressions chest compressions chest compressions.
The stuff inside the cells already forms ice crystals and destroys the tissue being frozen, so that sounds like a huge waste of time.
As someone works in vet med. Stay away from the panda 😂 that's a wildlife vets expertise😅
Edit to add: When they sleep, their pulse beats 70-120 BPM, awake it's approximately 100 BPM and they have a respiration rate of 20-40 times per minute.
Adults eat up to 40kgs of bamboo a day 🤣
Mostly because they're omnivores that are trying to be hyper-specialized herbivores. Poorly.
Usually I just have fun watching doc Mike laugh while I pretend to understand what he's saying medically, but this is such a crazy episode of this series I am laughing at the same time as Mike and for the same reasons, LOL
This channel's editor deserves soooo much kudos, the editing is just awesome
One of my dad's friends was diagnosed with a glioblastoma last year, shortly after I was diagnosed with AML. Last I heard, she'd had a surgery that removed most of the tumor and was responding well to radiation and chemo. I should ask my dad if he's gotten any further updates.
I'm currently one year cancer-free, though of course my doctor and I are still on the lookout for relapse.
Congrats, and good luck
The CPR machine at 15:30 actually turns out to be necessary. Tom Scott did a video on Storing dead people at -196°C where they mention they need to do cpr to keep everything oxygenated untill the body is cooled down enough.
But that sounds like it's assited suicide given the current methods destroy the cells
If someone on TikTok brought their dog to a human dentist instead of Vet I think I'm gonna blame this show 😂
12:07 that's what happened to my dad: lost feeling in his hand on december 1st 2018, he got to the hospital just in time before he had a seizure, moved to another hospital, got surgery on december 6th, started chemo/radio therapy soon after, passed away june 22nd.
I don’t think anyone understands the excitement that entered my body when I opened CZcams and saw this video. I religiously watch all three Chicago shows (Fire, PD, Med) and have seen almost all of Mike’s videos. This video made my day! Thanks Dr. Mike!
Me too!
The 'Ubethejudge' bit are super ridiculous and hope nobody ever makes decisions that way. Letting others decide what you should do is mental.
I agree 💯
2:56 she’s actually right. Zoos rent pandas because the public loves them so much and it brings more foot traffic
I had a stent put in a few weeks ago on July 17, it's amazing it can be done so easily, the cardiologist went in through my wrist and i got to watch the whole thing on the same screen he used, even-do it was happening to me, it was still kind of awesome to see 😀
hey Dr Mike im glad that you work so hard to inform us all
I just recently binged the entirety of Chicago Med, and I have to say, it's one of the best medical shows ever. Yes it has some goofy stuff, but generally it's so good. Great video Mike! ❤
Well it surely can’t be worse than Grey’s Anathomy or Dr. House
It certainly prioritizes drama. Lots and lots and LOTS of Drama.
I've wanted to watch it, but I find that the Chicago shows have so many crossovers you have to watch them all, and I don't have that kind of time. Although, if the Writer Guild and SAG-AFTRA strikes continue, I might get there :)
@@dietcokeofleftistsyou certainly don't have to watch all of them, I don't. But there was one episode about an outbreak in an apartment building that was done on all three shows. I only saw the Med portion.
@@dietcokeofleftists In my own experience its not too bad. Whilst they do have story arcs, its not full on anime level, so you can watch episodes out of order without getting lost too much.
And there are sites to keep track of the crossover episodes, like wikipedia.
It was a chest compression machine. The cryogenic process includes keeping circulation going while adding in a biological antifreeze compound and draining the blood. It apparently works best using the heart itself rather than a bypass machine. The antifreeze compound replaces all the fluids in the body, so the cells can be cooled to liquid nitrogen temperatures without the fluids freezing - which would shred the cells.
Please do more of these! The show looks great but as a non-doctor its great to have someone explain the terminology and so allowing me to understand. Great video Doc!
8:50 I actually went home from work one day because I thought I had food poisoning. Lots of cramping that evening, then I was super sore the next day, but I felt better so I went to work. After a week of being sore and having a low fever I went to the hospital to find my appendix had ruptured but my body walled it off and formed an abscess instead of me going septic. Had to spend a few days getting that sucker drained, then another month for it to close up before taking the little bugger out.
Bottom line don't be like me, folks. If something hurts, see a doctor.
15:50 idk why Dr mike didn't mention this right away but the first thing that struck me was: Ethan clearly knew what was going on fairly quickly, he was cautious. So why didn't he put himself BETWEEN the door and the dude, or at least try to? At the **very** least, there is no way someone as experienced with physical combat as ethan would not be fully aware of exactly what is going on and tackle the dude INTO the hallway rather than further into the room where he and anything that spilt could be isolated. We've seen many times in this show how good ethan is at this kinda thing but also how much he is willing to sacrifice himself for the good of others, he did in this episode too. There's simply no way ethan would tackle the dude in the direction he did.
Even in a world where human doctors DID operate on animals, everyone's smug faces looking like, "you WILL do this, like it or not☺" would make me decline no matter what. Hahahaha.
I love Mike’s vids because I enjoy watching him a) get really frustrated with things like this and b) go on and on and ON with random long medical related words 🤷♀ Keep up the great work Mike!
My mother died from Glioblastoma Multiforme. It was cruel, unmerciful, and I lost her in 2003. I still miss her. Is it genetic? I was told it's not, but now I'm scared. She passed at at age 67. I'm going to be 60 in October.
Doctor Mike just makes the show even better.
Doctor Mike missed one. 'Universal donor' doesn't work for whole blood transfusions; they have to be an ABO match. This is because the donor/receiver chart is inverted for plasma. O- is universal donor for /red cells/, but for plasma, AB is universal donor, and O is universal receiver. (Rh factor (the +/-) doesn't matter for plasma transfusions.)
My husband had a stroke and it turned out to be this exact situation as the Panda, they did the balloon, and now he's fine!
Chicago Med is such a guilty pleasure show for me! It's so dumb and dramatic, but I can't stop
We appreciate Dr Mike's insights. Seems like he's well versed in his own medical practice.
Omg the social media one pissed me off so much because of how toxic the situation was.
I love that response!
"Yeah. That's the easy part. The hard part is thawing it out and having it still work."
My mom has GBM. Stage 4. She found out 3 years ago. Been taking care of her full time. Shes on hospice now. Its been hard.
I'm so sorry 🥺❤ that's awful..
The wound on his finger shows how dedicated he is to his work.
I honestly saw an episode of Court Cam where someone was performing plastic surgery while on Zoom taking care of a traffic ticket. They respectfully ended the Zoom and scheduled it for a later day
i was watching this in the hospital last night haha was kept in for observation but your vids always get me thinking so i was very observant whilst there ahah
5:53 that shot with the panda is hilarious 😂😂
I wonder how many takes it took for these actors to say some of these lines. "I have never done this with a panda" was just delivered so solemnly.
I enjoy watching these medical drama vids but can we all appreciate the panda. They have a really promising career in their future. Hope to see them in more shows
The cryogenic thing is somewhat accurate actually. The process is indeed called vitrification and they do the chest compressions thing! Tom Scott did a very interesting video on that a few days ago
As soon as you said your "husband heart problem" Em was the first thing that popped in my head lol I'm glad you brought the lyrics up lol
I’ve had appendicitis that perforated I was throwing up so bad that I was too dehydrated to get a clear scan and this small hospital in the middle of nowhere Kentucky said I just had a stomach ache and tried to give me medicine. My mom, fearing some thing was much worse decided to get me released and go to the Children’s Hospital in Louisville we waited in the waiting room for hours when my mom eventually freaked out, they admitted that the other hospital had called them and warned them about us. I was eventually able to get a clear enough scan to show that I had appendicitis and it already ruptured I was put under for an emergency surgery and I ended up being OK. We tried our best to sue the other hospital, but we were just burning money and we were pretty poor and we couldn’t afford it.
Mikes frustration is truly entertaining and educational, he's the best
You make learning about medicine much more fun and entertaining 🥰
I love watching Doctor Mikes vids. And I love when he reacts to shows and just gets frustrated because of the medical inaccuracy or from the random things in it😂❤also what happened to your finger?
It’s always eye opening to hear a real doctor talk about medical conditions after watching tv medical shows. The over dramatization is off the charts.
Hey Doctor just wondering if you could make a video on a good workout.
I'm not sure if this is something that you'd do but,
I think many people would be interested in it.
1:51 when i hear Mike say "your heart problem is complicated" i was literally thinking bout the Em song then he reads my mind and brings up the Em song... wild
Same!
Same!
It looks like she can't help but laugh while delivering the lines @3:00
13:55 Tom Scott covered this exact subject in a video no more than a few days ago.
“I don’t know why, I’m entertained by this” And that Dr. Mike, is how I became addicted to this show
heyy i have an atrial septal defect! got it repaired when i was very young, super cool to hear you talk about my health condition lol!
I love Chicago med mostly because of their focus on mental health and psychiatry in more of their episodes than most of the other medical dramas ever did, or at least to a higher degree than they did, but I never understood the panda episode, my coworker who works part time with me is a vet tech for their day job and it made no sense to me given everything she’s talked about regarding veterinary medicine.
How I love that smug little smile ❤
I hope your fingers okay be safe out there doctor mike love your videos 😊
Have to echo the person commenting about the San Diego Zoo we here in Columbus have the same collaboration with specialists at OSU Wexner Med Center. They go to the Zoo's Hospital. Cardiologists Oncologists etc.
In case you’re curious too: An adult giant panda has a normal body temperature between 36.5-37.5 degrees Celsius. When they sleep, their pulse beats 70-120 times per minute, and they have a respiration rate of 20-40 times per minute.
At 17:34, you mention that this could never happen because they couldn't test her blood beforehand. But here in NZ, they only regularly test donated blood for 4 diseases (HIV, Hep B & C, Syphilis, not uncommon diseases, but also not THAT common, plus often have symptoms that a doc would recognise) In a situation where blood was not available, wouldn't this method be relatively low risk, especially if the patient is bleeding out?
Hello! I’m a laboratory tech licensed in Immunohematology (Blood bank). Donated Blood isn’t only tested for these diseases but also tested for antibodies that could potentially fetal if the patient has those antigens present. This could cause the patients body to see the donated blood as foreign and kill off the blood cells (lysis). This is incredibly inaccurate. Blood also has to be signed off and documented by us techs and doctors before it is transfused. Blood is also stored at temps between 2-8 C. I have not heard of transfusions being done directly from a donor (at least at our hospital).
@@LovelylittlemmieI'm not in that field but it sounded very reckless if it was done
Also I'd think that if someone lost so much blood that it's very likely to be fetal than the donnar would also need to donate so much blood that it's very dangerous for them. If it's not that bad yet then yes not a low risk situation for the patient
Thank you for inspiring people to peruse medicine! Keep it up! ❤
3:40 there is a reason pandas are going extinct. Their only survival tactic that works is that they are cute. They are clumsy to a fault. They don’t climb well and have very little center of gravity. They are hard pressed to mate- so much so that they’ve had to show videos of pandas mating and zookeepers physically had to arouse them. They also don’t have a “home base”- they’ll plop anywhere and go to sleep. Doesn’t matter where. Also their diet is stupid. It ALMOST burns more energy to eat bamboo that it has in calories. The only reason pandas get so large is because if they aren’t eating- they are sleeping. They should have been extinct years ago even without poaching and trapping.
I find it hilarious that right after dr. mike did the AirUp sponsorship, I got an AirUp ad......BAHAHAHAH
1:40 I heard the Em lyric as soon as you said it. And when you came back and said as much I busted out laughing.
9:38
This is technically a form of an AMA
Almost makes you wish it were professional to tell him "You are literally the dumbest person alive"
This is exactly why I don't watch Medical dramas... or cop dramas.... or court room dramas....
At the end of the day I find more realism in tv shows about vampires and aliens.
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS i love this show n i love seeing ur reaction to it !!!
I regret doing a laparoscopic appendectomy. It wasn’t explained to me that in my case it largely didn’t matter if I did open or not, cause I’m a very small person with minimal fat. What wound up happening is that the gas they pumped me with to do it laparoscopically wound up causing extreme nerve pain in my shoulders. I was genuinely convinced the doctors dropped me when I woke up. I also feel like it made my belly looked saggy and blocky for months afterwards. Don’t let doctors get away with not giving you information like this beforehand. Both of those things could have been avoided if they didn’t just wave me off like my choices didn’t matter.
my parents watch this show all the time, they never miss an episode - and every time i pass by the tv when its on im thinking about what mike thinks of a particular scene, lmao. this channel has changed my way of thinking permanently.
Yeah ngl after watching so much dr.mike content I’ll never be able to watch a medical show the same way again lmao
I was really surprised to see that most (well maybe over half) of the procedures and diagnoses on the Chicago Med clips were actually correct according to Dr. Mike! That is usually NOT the case!