Honest Review: Harley Davidson Heritage Classic | NOT WORTH IT
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My honest review of the Harley Davidson Heritage Classic. Honestly, I can't recommend this one. I just don't think this Harley is worth the money, although there isn't anything really WRONG with it outside of the bags leaking. Huge thanks to Berts for allowing me to be honest. Keep it weird y'all #shadetreearmy - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Good review. I am the opposite though i absolutely loved my 2019 heritage classic. No problem with the bags leaking for me. The windshield was a little short. Hated the stock pipes but that was easy to fix. Honestly I liked it worlds better than my 2020 roadking special. Built better i think.
Hey man, that’s why I always say it’s just my opinion! I’m not an expert by any means, just going from the seat of my pants.
Just upgraded my sporty to 2020 heritage 114, 5'6"....also I don't make enough to get a road king or street glide. For a daily rider 10 months out of the year, I like it
Hi Tombo, yes I have this bike and at 6' 2" was getting blurred vision due to wind hitting top half of my helmet. I fitted a 21 inch screen and problem solved. Ride safe.
You were meant for reviews mate. Outstanding balance of comedy and truth. Great work 👍🏻
Well thanks man :)
Totally agree
Agree! Especially from a realistic perspective. But honestly, I consider this review from a fact perspective. Hope to see you grow in your dreams to come true. God Bless Man!
He's the review guru master 😁😁
I prefer the evo heritage. Still sounds and looks old school. I may be a lil biased lol. If I was to replace my old girl it would be a late twink
I love my heritage it’s an extremely comfortable bike and the suspension is incredible! I think HARLEY did a great job!
Open up CZcams for the first time this morning and find a new shade shadetree video. This day is already going well.
My man ✊🏻
I have the 03 Heritage Softail Classic 88 TC 100 year anniversary edition and the Softail line is amazing,smooth ride and loud pipes,bike is simply bad ass looking
Harley's pricing is almost as unreasonable as Marketplace sellers' prices.
Get what you pay for.
Used prices have gone crazy since pandemic. Use to see Sportsters fairly cheap. Now seeing $4500 for a early 2000's with 50,000 miles. Unreal. Has me considering selling my road king
@@FRESHx913x I don't think they're selling that well, though. I messaged this one dude the other day about his bike (which would only be worth $4,300 in GOOD condition). He demanded $6,500 for it, despite the fact that the battery doesn't work, both tires need replaced, and he hasn't used it in years (so it might not even be operational even after blowing a few hundred dollars to replace the battery and both tires, and likely the carburetor as well). His bike has been for sale for months, and for some reason he still can't sell it.
Harley..can't wait for it to fail.
It's not for the working class .
Home built metric all the way.
@@karlhockenberry9130 the same looking bike everyone has . I'll stick to garage built
I took offense to something you said! You can't be a hillbilly without hills.
Florida has hills... fire anthills.
Swampbilly
Landfill hills count.
@@bikerbobcat landfillbilly!
@@DarthBop Tampa Bay Bridgebilly
I swear every year the bikes get cheaper parts and higher price tag. Great Video
The day is good when shadetree uploads
And unloads!
I totally agree, Im only unhappy when it ends and I have to wait for a new video. I even watch the comercials to extend the lenth.
Your voice kinda reminds me of that pirate dude from the spongebob theme song sometimes
Aye aye captain I can’t hear you aye aye captain who lives in a pineapple under the sea
Rode from Baltimore to Tampa in late June with some buddies. Stopped by Berts Harley and said ShadeTree sent us. John Dempsey the general manager came out to speak with us. He showed us around the whole compound they’re building there. We had a couple beers and shot the shit. What a nice guy! Tried stopping by the shame but you were still closed due to the Rona. Next time we will for sure. Keep it weird.
The best ever review from someone that doesn’t really do reviews. So glad you skip past the facts and figures and focus on how a bike makes you feel. More reviews please!!
The heritage classic has always been my favorite soft tail because of the looks. Honestly ms being 5,6 I sat on one and felt at home on it. Great review Shadetree as always
The older Heritage Classics like the Evo motor ones from the 90s are awesome and I've always wanted one, the 2020 models like in Shadetrees review are just wrong.
Don't let LA Beast hear you slam crystal Pepsi.
This video convinced me to get a 2020 heritage classic 114 in vivid black. Love it, amazing choice. Actually picked it over a 2018 RK! I do agree with a lot of your review, and I love your thoughts on it, but in the end, it just was the perfect fit for me at this point in my life. :)
I too have a vivid black Heritage. I love it.
Hope yall still enjoying!
At 65 years old my 2019 114 Heritage Classic was my first ever HD. I liked the blacked out look and the feel of the bike maybe being a little smaller? and lighter? than the "bigger" framed machines. I'm totally satisfied, no complaints, and my local dealer has been great! Is it "worth it" ? As we all know a big part of owning a motorcycle is how it makes you FEEL. Yeah to me it IS worth it. Thank you HD for building this great bike.
The softail slim is still the best bang for your buck harley I believe
I love my slim!
@@CFdooley me too! I've got a 19 in wicked red denim.
And the Softail Slim also looks more like an old FLH than the current Softail Heritage looks like ANY older Harley.
I absolutely loved my '13 Slim; put 55,000 miles on it in six years, then it was time to upgrade to a touring bike, so I went for the '19 Electra Glide Standard... Already 11,300 miles in eleven months; another great bike for the price. Love the Electra Glide, but seriously do miss my Slim.
That bike is the king of scraping. Took one out for a test ride and the damn thing scraped making a right hand turn from a stop LOL. Flipped a bitch and brought it right back. The best "handling" HD is the Fat Bob with mids.
I unironically enjoy Crystal Pepsi. reminds me of being a kid.
I liked it tooooo
I was JUST explaining Crystal Pepsi to my 12 y/o daughter yesterday - crazy timing that this subject came up
Have a good day!
They rereleased it for a brief period. I don’t know if it’s still out, but I had a little nostalgic kick when I found it in a gas station in Seattle last year.
Still available in Japan IIRC.
You highlighting the price difference between the soft tail standard and the heritage was a painful reminder of Harley bending their customers over. There really isn’t a $6k worth of “upgrades” 🤦🏾♂️
If you watch the dealer used bike most times I can find a heritage priced only 1000 more then a street bob both stock like new just 500-1000 miles. That’s shows you even the dealers know there is nothing worth that price point between the bikes.
Great job! Humorous and very intelligent thoughts/insights (even though you may not want credit for the latter). You’re very humble, but you have a great eye for things that are worth contemplating and that’s what a review should do; make consumers think for themselves and it’s okay if they disagree. Great job to Bert’s H-D also for continuing this arrangement.
High praise man, thank you! Most people would just say I’m nitpicking... but hey, it’s what stood out to me
I appreciate your honest review and opinions on the bike. Difference strokes for different folks.
My friend has a 2019 Heritage. He has his list of replace and such. Smaller dude, so the bike fit him right. We all should buy what works for us.
I love my 2020 heritage, made some exhaust changes and taller apes. Other than that no complaints
I've watched both of your recent reviews on the Road King and this Heritage. Your honesty is refreshing! You've done an outstanding job of fully reviewing the pros and cons of these bikes. Thanks for such thorough reviews.
I love the honesty, showing all the thing you dont like or don't understand in context is better than just gushing
I owned a 2005 Heritage for six years and absolutely loved it, one of the best bikes I've ever owned. I agree with you 1000% about the looks of the new Hertiage though, Harley fracked it up tough. I wish they'd make the Heritage look "classic" again.
I Agree. I think the bike has lost its soul.😱
I own a 88 Heritage and love it. I do have some hi performance stuff and it’s lowered. I custom fit a original HD knuckle head era solo seat on her. Great ride, cheap to buy and own, and still looks great with the original paint.
Great review. I honestly appreciate that you have some numbers without getting hung up on them and quickly moved onto how the bike feels.
I love your reviews man! I also love the Dennis Miller like, long running descriptive sarcasm and humor you use to break things down. Great video as always man. Bert's Harley Davidson is proof that individual dealers can be more intelligent then their parent company.
I had a 2018 heritage classic. I loved it. Added Vance and Hines exhaust. It sounded awesome. With that being said I literally just traded it in for Road King special. The smooth ride of the road king with larger saddle bags are what i really needed. I will miss my heritage but cant wait to add some miles and memories to my Road King.
Same here
As far as appearance, i feel like the mid 2000s are the best looking Heritage Softails. The new ones look too "new" or "modern." But the 107 is amazing 😎.
Yep. Ever since i saw this video czcams.com/video/HLXX6XVAeOs/video.html, and the fact that John Maxwell has one. sold me on it.
You’re reviews are honestly some of the best out there; I encourage more!
Have a '18 heritage and absolutely love it but also loved this video. Honest, to the point, and really good points about some of the problems and pricing. Video format works.
Also I really like the road king from your experiences on it. Helps that it automatically dodges flipping cagers
I had a 2009 heritage. Absolutely loved that motorcycle. It was a serious classic look and was planted in the corners. I had two tone paint, all the chrome. Beautiful studs on the seat with leather soft bags that completed the “classic” look. White walls that while a pain in the arse to keep clean were worth having. When Harley released the “new” heritage my first thought by looking at it was that they completely ruined a iconic motorcycle. In my opinion you are spot on in this review. I’m certain that the new heritage has better suspension and probably rides and handles better. But it’s no “Heritage Classic” anymore.
I completely agree with you, and with Josh's review. I had a 1996 Heritage that I loved. I bought it for the styling, and these new Heritage bikes look horrendous. The new frame, swingarm, and exhaust setups make them look like a 90's metric bike. I currently ride an old shovelhead, but hope to add another older Heritage to ride on long trips next spring.
09 with the teal and white. Had to have it.
greyghost1101 that’s what color I had too. I’m sick over tangling with a deer on it. Completely destroyed it. I’m looking for one like it still.
No truer words were ever spoken! 👍👍👍👍👍
I honestly appreciate when you give your honest opinion, makes it feel safe when looking to buy one
Best motorcycle reviewer on CZcams after just 2 reviews! Keep up the good work!
My stock 04 with a 03 engine still looks and has more class than the newer heritage 😎 Thank for making my day. I’m a skinny swamp rat in Soflo & enjoy watching keep it going.
Swamp rats 4 ever 🔮
I too own a 2004 heritage classic Harley rebuilt the motor to 95 cubic inches the bike has 70,000 miles the engine has 17 it looks better than any new heritage could ever think about Harley really screwed up with this one
Church. Getting ready to head to beartooth pass in Montana. 90 miles from my house for few days of moto camping. Then sturgis for few days. Hell ya
Loved Beartooth. Pass on Sturgis as a native South Dakotan.
@@harryunzeki219 im 31. Been riding long time. Never went to the rally. Thought i better check it out once
Make sure to hit the red box car in red lodge and the snow creek saloon . Let me know when you come thru and we can grab a beer.
I really hope they keep giving you loaners. I definitely appreciate honest reviews that aren't just the brochure being read over pics of the bike. Keepin' it weird in VA!!! Ride safe!
Love these videos and the way you narrate them. Keep up the good work
H-D should bring back the Dyna. Whose with me?
Fuck yeah, and make it even more affordable.
The 103 couldn't pass emissions any longer but I'm with you, calling it a Soft tail is a limp dick move especially in light of the horrible history of the original Softail that I rode in the late eighties that positively tried to kill you at every turn, showroom fresh. Every modern motorcycle uses a similar rear suspension design with a single shock and works well and yet I can't see myself on one until the Fat Bob has a 5 gallon tank.
ME
I rode Dyna’s, Evo and Twin-cam for 25 years. I still can’t believe how much better my 2020 Heritage 114 handles and rides. Still liked the looks of my Dynaglides, the frame, rubber mount motor and wobbly swing arm are just outdated.
Thanks for the review. It's right on point with my feelings about the Heritage. I bought a new Roadking a couple years ago with a 107 in it. I saw that the 2019 Heritage was nearly 100 lbs lighter so I considered trading my roadking in on one. I mean with it being 100 lbs lighter it must rip compared to the R.K. makes sense right? So I talked numbers with my local dealership on a used 2019 Heritage softail with 7 miles on it. Yes 7 miles. The owner had purchased nearly 7k in nice add ins. Not chump change at all. The price was going to be around 19k with all the extras included on the bike. What a screaming deal right? Wrong. After dialing in the sales and trade numbers it came time to do a test ride before signing on the dotted line.
Well ..... I jumped on the bike and right away if felt underpowered to me. The pipes had been done but they were quiet and the bike felt sluggish. It felt like I was ridding IN the bike instead of on the bike. I didn't like the foot position being slightly forward. It felt really plasticky. Is plasticky even a word? As I was saying it felt under powered and like a toy. The Roadking feels very solid and the fit and finish of it screams " Solid Bike". When look down at the Heritage while on the bike the first thing you see is that ugly plastic tank strip easily changed out but fort Gods sake it's a 20k bike full of plastic and cheap finishes. The handlebars are made of like a 3/4 " steel but they look rediculously small.
I'm sure the Herrirage can be a great bike with around 4k in upgrades but for me it just did not feel solid or safe even.
I didn't mean for this to be another review of the bike I just could have said " I agree with the shade tree's assessment of the bike" Good job shade tree. I live your channel and your content. You are insane my friend and a slice of humor. .
Shadetree, I gotta hand it to you. Nobody on earth could have given a cleaner, more concise, "poetic", accurate and honest review of the Heritage than you did in this video. Subscribed.....
Love how you pontificate on certain details. The details are what make or break ownership vs test riding a bike.
The plastic studs are the Vegan Rob Halford starter kit. #thefutureiscrystalclear #JudasPriest
Fuckin dead 😂
Lol! Hell bent fer plastic.
They are metal 🤷♂️
Mark P holy shit hahahahaha
This was a good video. I like the professional cinematography mixed with the Shadetree brand that brought me to the channel in the first place.
@Cloud I mean he does it for money… so by definition. Professionally unprofessional maybe.
@Cloud ok well he doesn’t need me to defend him and I’m not sure why you felt the need to question me comment to begin with. Go watch another video or go outside. Bye Felicia.
Your review was spot on.. the styling was exactly why my wife who had owned a 2001 Heritage upgraded only to a 2017 .. she though Harley really messed up when they did the redesign. Then, when we took a trip to Colorado in June she rented a 2020 Heritage and HATED it ... spot on Shadetree ... spot on.
Great review. In depth and eloquently put. Solid work Shade.
"Can't fit a twelve pack of beer in the bags", not worth the money🙄😑😁
You can if take them out of the box. Adapt or die! 😬
I fit 15 packs in mine all day, don’t get that part of the review, 12 packs fit fine as well l 🤷♂️
I can fit an 18 pack of bud lights with the box in my 2019 heritage
12 pack fits easily. I own one.
Dang, I dare a MF’er to say Shadetree is a shill now.
Your avatar says American, your language says Britain
Anthony's Malawi Predators Texan
Awesome review man! I love berts! My bikes over there still gettin fixed up! When I was over there to check on it I mentioned you to one of the shop guys they showed me your next bike! Looks like it’s gonna be A LOT of fun! Can’t wait to see what the future brings for you and the channel! Stay weird 🤙!
Now you got me considering Soft Tail standard. I appreciate the honest review. The new Heritage does have a superior quality seat.
You sir have inspired me to pick up my first bike yesterday for myself and the girlfriend to learn to ride. Although, it’s not something you would probably ride we both feel pretty comfortable on it. Thanks!
Bags floorboards lights and the name you're most likely paying for the name at that point🤷♂️
Thanks, I was considering downsizing from my road king. This helped me decide not to bother. You pointed out things I also didn't like and some new things I hadn't noticed.
Nice one dude , your honesty and integrity keeps me coming back for more .
If Harley wants to survive they really need to trim the fat from their lineup.
My 2019 Heritage is the best bike I have ever owned. Tried a Road King and hated the touring frame. I do have to 114 though. Different strokes for different folks.
I have a 2019 114 as well. Do you have the speedometer fogging problem too?
Palace Gypsy there is a small amount of moisture in there over the digital part, haven’t been by the dealer to have them look yet. Seems to be common among all the softails with that speedo. Hopefully they have a fix but my guess is they will say it’s normal and live with it.
@@TorreyCrabtree They replaced mine under warranty, but the second one has the same issue. Guess I just need to stop riding in full sunlight!!
My Son and watch your videos all the time am 61 years old only been riding on street 2 years one day I hope to ride down to meet up with you and crew keep up the good work congrats on your new shop peace out 😎
Appreciate the honesty and objectivity....as much as I love my ‘19 Heritage Classic 114!! 😄
3:30 DUDE I just watched that Crystal Pepsi video YESTERDAY and now suddenly you're using clips of it on your video #Illimunati
LOL!
Harley Davison’s are too expensive but I still would like to have one for the right price
Thats why you buy used.
Brand new import motorcycles can easily cost $12k+. The playing field is pretty even
@@chong3632 From dead Harley owners widows...or kids or grand kids.
Got a 2018 114 Heritage. 22000 miles with no issues or bag leaks. Did upgrade seat, pipes, taller no buffing windshield and took the silly disk off the wheel when it was time for a two tire change out. Just got back from a 9 day trip in the Smokey Mts. Guess what I like so much about the bike and why I chose it was it's modular with no heavy fiberglass. I pop on the back luggage container with back seat rest, roc strap my giant bag on the passenger seat hit the highway to base camp. My destination this time was an Ashville, NC AirBNB. Within 15 minutes had everything off bike including windshield and shocks adjusted. Now I'm a light 114 hitting the curves. Love it!
From the UK, good work shady, honest, funny and to the point.
More reviews/ tests please.
Everything on that bike clashes together. Who in the f is in charge of hd styling ? He should be fired
How dare you assume the gender!!
Harley Davidson has a history of doin stupid design ideas like that... look at the Iron 1200 for example, cafe seat and cafe windscreen on a low sitting chopper styled Sportster with mini apes... wtf. On the Heritage the studs should have been brushed stainless, a modern nod to classic styling.
@@Bahlzeron I agree. The street 750, vrod, heritage softail are a few examples of.... wtf hd. I buy my harleys for the engine and trans, everything else gets redone the way I want it. I'm thinking about an indian in the near future.
@@uhyeahitsme413 Male or female?
@@alanmenard4795 caesar salad.
Hahaha 😂 "plastic acne"
I enjoy your brutal honesty in reviewing bikes. Keep it up!
I honestly love your reviews! The best hands down. I know you don't like them but don't stop pls!
This is exactly why I stick with EVO and Twin Cam Heritages. They are just better bikes
There’s a lot of new Harleys that “to me” are not worth the money, And that’s coming from a person who owns two of them. The Pan Am is really the only bike that’s new and has my interest.
I’m super excited about that one
shadetree surgeon I guess we are supposed to see it early next year Harley announced And to me a stripped down 975 with less electronics would be a killer. Maybe the “Trans Am” 🤔
@@thevtadventure1062 Electronics? I though everything on a HD was powered by hipster beard oil and distilled nostalgia!
The market is already saturated with proven dual sport/ADV bikes ...no way would I consider it
Ron Friedman Very true honesty....KTM and Some others would absolutely stomp it Offroad and in some other areas. But for me something different and the extensive dealer network peaks my interest.
I really enjoyed this video and hearing your thoughts on this bike; it definitely looks far less appealing than the Road King, but I was curious about the performance difference. And as always, you didn't disappoint with the honesty and humor. Excellent video, brother. Looking forward to the next one!
You seriously kill at making reviews, I'd love to see more
Do more reviews. You're good at it.
I used to love the design of the old ( Evo era )Heritage classic. This thing has had a good whack with the ugly stick sadly.
You take and reviews on rides are perfect. The honest observations are great.
Finally!!! Someone gave an honest review. At least one I agree with. A breath of fresh air from the reviewers that are actually advertising.
Dont ever sell out! I only watch for your brutal honesty and just being real. There is a wealthy sponsor out there somewhere who appreciates these things, your day is coming!
This review was amazing haha! Keep doing reviews dude. I will watch anything you review 👌🏻
Good review mate; love the honesty. Some of the reasons you mention (horrible bags, strange lights up front, and crazy price) is why I got my Road King Special and haven't regretted it for 1 second.
Dude, this was an excellent motorcycle review! You're good at this!!
Great review. Refreshing to hear brutal honesty with humor thrown in
Good morning Shadetree!!:3 I like your review videos, I like that ya keep it fun!! Keep it up man!!!
Mornin!
Honest opinions on CZcams are hard to come by. Thanks for not being a sell out my man. Cheers from Vancouver BC.It would be super interesting to see the books at HD and why the price is so out of wack.
I purchased the 2018, 103 version and after putting 20,000 km on it in one summer I have to agree with all the shortcomings you listed except the bags did not leak. I was disappointed. I traded it in for a Tiger 1200 and love the Triumph. No regrets on trading it away.
I like your honest review. I have a 2002 Heritage classic vivid black and chrome. My scoot looks like it came off the showroom floor yesterday. I get lots of compliments what a beauty. What I love about my scoot is how old school it looks. I doubt Harley will ever discontinue this iconic scoot, The Heritage draws attention wherever it goes and it is always positive feedback . And also I love my 88 twin cam motor carb very Harley sounding. I only have a stage 2 but she pulls quite well.
Always appreciate honest reviews
A good, refreshing, humorous review . THANKS for sharing !
This type of review/opinion video, every 4-6 weeks, will not hurt my feelings. Keep’em coming.
"True Reviews with Josh" loved it mate, had me grinning all the way through. Give Filp a poke for me when ya see him next.
Will do :)
Sunday mornings are for coffee, and Shadetree. And the honest "reviews" are awesome. Not some suck up editor from an overpriced mag throwing some hallway weiner love to Harley Davidson. But a dude who rides giving the low down on his opinion. We should ALL be so lucky to see more reviews like this.
Good job man. Keep them coming.
I like the format Shadetree. Do more like these!
You're rocking this video format Shady. Love your upfront approach and wit, which makes your reviews a damm lot more enjoyable than the pros that get paid for spewing out a bunch of dried out corny words and sentences that send one to sleep.
Wonder when we get to enjoy the first long term Triumph review...???
Please keep making content bro you inspire me so much you don’t even know
This review cracked me up! I appreciate your honesty.
I think you give great reviews. Useful info delivered in a fair and good natured manner. Well done sir.
At first I thought I was not going to be happy with you but then I haven't looked at any of these newer Softails so I am not in the know. Man those lights look bad . You're absolutely right on about everything you said. I am in absolute agreement sir. Hats off on an honest and true review. And who ever heard of a fake gas cap ???
Greetings from the UK! Have been looking at either a Heritage or Road King and this review was really helpful with detail other reviewers don’t seem to know or care about. Thanks a lot old chap, excellent review!
I was just test driving a Heritage today. Thanks for the honest review.
I love your reviews, you keep up the good work
I loved my 2013 Heritage, but once I checked out the new version it just did nothing for me. Great review, you should do more of them.