Time Team S05-E04 Turkdean,.Gloucestershire
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- In August 1997, Time Team attempted their most ambitious project ever - three days of live excavation with the very real possibility of finding precisely nothing. The weekend ended with evidence of a Romano-British villa complex that is one of the largest ever found in Britain. This programme is an edited version of that weekend, capturing the key moments of exciting finds and day-by-day evidence of the growing extent of the site.
Three of the finds that particularly captured the atmosphere of the weekend are a roof tile bearing a Roman dog's paw print, a rare 'friendship' brooch and a perfectly preserved Roman 'plunge' bath. The programme includes startling new information about both the finds and the importance of the site for British archaeology.
You know it’s going to be a great episode when Phil’s got his denim hot pants on.
Sexiest legs on Time Team! 😂
Mick was getting so excited, it looked like he almost fell out of the chopper!
Kudos to the camera crews, having to chase Tony and the others all around that big site while lugging those heavy TV cameras!
That farmer did excellent work in mapping it.
Sadly he didn't live to see the episode air
@@Awitsaduckthat’s sad.
Victor is an excellent artist 🎨
This complex is a fascinating site and the investigations carried out in this episode helped in it's classification in 2012 as a scheduled ancient monument.
And a very well earned classification it was too.
I bet Phil needed a couple of pints after seeing the "guest" literally "yank" that Roman pottery out of the trench wall ! 😲
Must be terrible to have a bloke like that bumbling around in your archealogical pit ... but good television, haha.
It was a set up, in my opinion. Bill Oddie is a famous comedian, writer, singer, naturalist, environmentalist, etc. First, Oddie pops a squat in the dig, then Phil leaves this rank amateur to his own devices, then the amateur finds and yanks a valuable item out of the dirt wall. Oddie could write such a string of gags and Phil might agree to be the straight man, for a pint.
@@rodritchison1995 I appreciate sanity and common sense, something sadly lacking in comments on YT.
@@rodritchison1995 I thought there was something rather odd with him appearing. The way he was moving, the way he was looking at things, made him appear to me as a small bull in a China shop.
Anyone notice the similarity with Tony's mishandling of a certain Wedgewood teapot? Both staged for comic relief?
I love when Mick ends a sentence with the word "look" like a period.
Baskerville Bee *full stop
@@asticou04 Full stop it is. TT is pure Brit not Septic.
Is it possible that the time team is being used by people claiming to have sites just because they need the rain?
Steve Blanck hah! 😂
Lol
😂😂😂
👏🏻👏🏻🤣
BWAHAHAHAHAHA. Brilliant.
This was a fun episode. I especially liked the paw print on the tile.
This was the jackpot episode so far. Phenomenal.
I sure wish I had known about this wonderful program when it started in the 1990's !
Mick in the chopper, so happy and excited 😄
*Look!*
I thought he was going to fall out in his excitement!
@@barbaraburton8914 Yeah, it almost looks like he's about to tip over, hope he had the seatbelt on lol
@@meemurthelemur4811 nooo.it's "here look" and over there look
Extraordinary that something so close to the surface should have gone undiscovered for nearly 2000 years.
It wasn't. At the start you see the farmer's drawing. Earlier farmers / sheep herders have also noticed the lines over the centuries but until the last century were just not interested in digging it up
Literally just a few inches. Incredible!
At a different site, they literally found a used block of ore sitting on top of other rubble. Just because it looked pretty much like stone rubbish, noone ever thought of picking it up before, thankfully.
The brooch and the keyhole are probably two of the coolest things time team has ever found.
6:45 🎼 "Combe-over in the wind" 🎤🤣👌🏻
I've always loved how when Mick got really excited about parchmarks, every other word out of his mouth became "Look!" =)
Some of the other Archaeologists started to do the same thing, Heehee
It's actually a remnant of his West Midlands youth. It equates to how many Canadians end every sentence with "eh?".
DieGoogleDie ugh, Bob and Doug Mackenzie really screwed Canadians over. I never heard many Canucks say that, till their show.
@@dgpatter
I also grew up in the West Midlands - Warwickshire - but can't remember people saying "look" all the time - but there again it might have been so common that nobody, including myself, noticed it ! It does usually take outsiders to notice other local peculiarities, doesn't it.😝
@@SNP-1999 In my line of work I coach people in conversation and public speaking. It makes me hyper-aware of what I call "verbal ticks". I can assure our Canadian friend above that Doug and Bob are not the source of some myth; MANY (not all as I said) Canadians do end every sentence with "eh?". In fact, I have encountered this from Canadians from Moscow to Mali. When spending long periods of time with them, I find myself doing it and hope they don't think I am mocking them; I just can't help it. That never happened when living in the UK (general slang but not dialects as far as I am aware), mostly because there are so many different accents/dialects that you never really hear a particular one often enough to mimic it.
No wonder they revisited this next season. It became so big.
They needed 6 days heehee Part 1 and part 2 heehee Or even 9 days
I particularly enjoy the episodes where they make/recreate things or conduct experimental archeology.
"Meanwhile, Phil has abandonned Bill", lol, why does this not surprise me?
and Tony tells off Bill...(for being grabby and pushy) 14:00 ...or the time Tony tells someone off nicely
Mick normally lets someone else head up Roman sites, he was sooo excited by this site that you knew it was a major find.
As with the other Roman site, Carenza got so excited she forgot they were doing a television show.
Tony had to sternly remind everyone, "one at a time" because they started talking all together.
"the only visible wildlife is a few archaeologists" snort
"It rained so hard, the day I dug,
The weather it was dry."
(My apologies to Stephen Foster!)
Wow! For a moment, I thought Mick was going to fall out of the helicopter, he was so excited!
This has to be the best Time Team episode in the series, so far. (I'm watching them in order.)
Great enthusiasm and excitement from the whole team.
What a fantastic series this was!
And I can almost locate where the site is, but would love it if someone could truly pinpoint it on Google Earth/Google Maps!
Stannous Flourides(I hope I ve spelled that right) usually knows and posts the co ordinates from Google maps.
Hahaaa, I have to go to sleep but now I've got that earworm 😆
This is the first time I've ever seen anything about pewter. My family was in the business in the 19th - early 20th century's in the Carlisle England area. I always thought it would be so cool to be able to create these kind of artworks.
#gitarzan66 You should do it. You'd be contributing to a lost personal art. Everything is made in factories, with no love behind it. Bring back your family business. Gofundme is your starting point!
Old pewter is toxic because of the lead content. Recent pewter has some other mix of metals.
Thank you for posting all these episodes!
Thank you for posting these!
16:19 Phil "Be careful" as Oddy yanks out the excavated pot. TT gold. Oddy is oblivious and Phil nearly punches him...every TimeTeam ep should finish in the pub!
baj51 To be fair, both Phil & Tony tell Bill he can take the pottery out.
@@barbmcconnaughey3070 It was a set up. If they wanted him to not make that mistake, they would have instructed him before they gave the go ahead.
and Tony ...nicely tells him off @14:00 for being grabby
thankfully there is a Turkdean revisited for more of the story
One of the most remarkable sites the team visited in it's whole 20 seasons.
And made no less remarkable by their return the next season.
UTERE FELIX is not a personnal name but an extremely common wish inscribed on Roman brooches and other jewellery, meaning "be lucky". Otherwise, always great to see Time Team digs.
" A brooch with someone's name on it. Trevor? " ha ha ha
Release Trevor.
amazing stuff
rip Mick Aston
Utre Felix - be Lucky. My great grandfather was named Felix. He died in 1916 at a battle at Belloy-en-Santerre, France in WW1. His name did not give him any luck. He was one of the 5.270 fallen in that war from South Denmark.
Too funny to hear Phil say shit at 29:30, can't say I've ever heard any of them swear on camera before.
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There is an episode where the spot they are excavating is adjacent to a stream called Shit Brook (I shit you not!)
Phil is my favorite to watch & he is best when digging. Love Mick, not sure how he tolerated Carenza acting like the boss of everything though, Love Stewart & John too! Tony asks the obvious for us and of course Carenza answers at nauseum as if she is the only one there smart enough to know. Helen is so much easier to watch.
@@meemurthelemur4811 you go fishing with your wifes father and when you sit down and ask what the brooks name is would just make me get up and leave
@@MjC7192 I didn't name the thing. It was named hundreds of years ago.
Wow cliffhanger...that was quite abrupt!
I really wish they spent more time talking about the Roman Banquet food! Sad Face!
Oh aaahh! Look it thaaat! - …….I wish Phil would tell us how he REALLY feels when he peels away the first layer to reveal a giant Roman Villa
Wish you all could go back and pickup where you left off...say like the next season. Either way, I love you all and what you do. You make learning sooooo much fun!!! Just wish you were still doing it.
love Keith Branigan hair (6:45) looks like bill murray in King Ping in the final bowling match!
I thought Mike would fall out of the helicopter he got so excited.
A cliffhanger of an episode~! So what is it?? A time team follow-up series seems required. What a tease episode...a good one never the less.
that area, the Cotswold is sure a beautiful place
Best dig so far!
Looks in much better shape than the one on that British Army base in a later episode....
You cant even tell time team was there it’s incredible
On a scale of 1-10 I think this place goes to 11.
Drawing on an envelope! Farmers are resourceful!
7:16 nothing funnier than a comb-over on a windy day. 😂😂 Why bother?
Ah...Silicon Graphics machines...very nice.
15.00 poor Carenza gets overruled again and at the end Tony finally tells her to stop talking over someone else - brilliant. Bet she wasn't happy LOL
Carenza could talk under-water!
@@scarletfluerr As a female myself, I can assure you she's being rude, not "aggressive," and it's far from her first time. I've seen her talk over a ninety-year-old guest, interrupt Robin Bush repeatedly while he's reading aloud from an ancient book, and has an annoying habit of echoing the experts whilst they are trying to speak. She gets plenty of airtime and the interruptions are not necessary. If Phil can wait his turn, or cut himself off in mid-speech to let Mick speak, so can she.
@@lucygray6162 As a female myself, I can assure you that she is not being rude.
@@lenajesse Oh. You're a personal friend of Carenza's and know how she thinks. Why didn't you say so?
@@lucygray6162 Lol :D By your logic, you are Carenza's personal friend and know how she thinks. :D Or...it's just the extensive knowledge to human nature that us females have or powers of telepathy that you can reffer to in your claims that she is rude. /s
I don't have to be Carenza's friend to know she's not being rude. She has been interrupted by men many times and has had to learn to push herself to the front to be heard, so get off you Mean Girls ride and stop bashing fellow female who refuses to be shrinking violet.
Best episode .
Oh be careful Nick, I’m always afraid you’re going to fall out of that chopper in all of your excitement! Eeeks!
👀 those legs, Phil 👀🕵️
They are spectacular aren't they? Pure eye candy!
this is a revamped version from 1997, theyve chopped the the bit where bill oddie went off with the kids to collect the snails for the roman meal
Here on Google Earth amidst an area laden with parch marks:
51° 52' 11.3128'' N, 1° 51' 32.8392'' W
Your latitude and longitude figure don't seem to be correct or am I inserting the number on Google earth wrong?
It's called 'decimal coordinates' they're what you get if you find a spot and mark it on Google Maps. But when you feed them into it they don't work there(wtf?)
There are converters online:
www.latlong.net/lat-long-dms.html
Here they are for this spot:
51° 52' 11.3128'' N, 1° 51' 32.8392'' W
Thank you. Never would have believed the numbers except for the two springs and their water course. The land owner probably appreciates the anonymity.
Pewter being made of lead-tin alloy recalled to mind the flap, some years ago, about the "wisdom" of eating *anything* off pewter table wear, given lead's well-known poisonous qualities. A major American manufacturer was involved.
I wouldn't even wear a pewter *pendant,* much less saw away at a steak on a pewter plate. That ranks with the legendary literally radioactive "Fiesta Ware", one perennially "hot collectible" if ever there was one. The bold and cheerful green and yellow pieces were glazed with a uranium compound. (Bet your creamed corn stayed warm ...).
Thomas Cervasio thankyou thom,i was thinking ive lost my mind,lead in a drinking vessel,i was left thinking doees some metal neutralise lead,of course that didnt sound right,so pewter is poisnous ,it makes your 21st Bday seem strange welcome to adult life,oh and heres a posionous cup to celebrate,and drink from.? maybe thats why you dont se them at 21st anymore
Jamie, you're most welcome-- and I needs must thank you in turn for your terrific comment contribution = expands the subject.
The reason I knew about that American pewter manufacturer was because I happened to live somewhere near the factory and showroom. The company *really* pushed the 'ol "handcrafted quality" shtick, because the pieces were sand-mould castings ... done by most probably rather short-lived craftsmen whose lung X-rays must have showed pure white lung-shaped silhouettes.
I'm a social psychologist, art therapist and fine artist-- so I've been motivated to do my homework re: anything toxic I get on my hands and/or breathe ... and the only really dangerous material I occasionally used was lead oxide white oil paint. The lead will go right through your skin.
Lead oxide's pure, non-yellowing and cheaply produced whiteness has a really horrifying historical track record. Two lowlights:
1) Lead white used as "clown white" theatrical makeup. Imagine being iced with that heavily lead-based greasepaint, and working up the sweat caused by a clown's routinely physically strenuous performance. Cases in point: The reknowned stage clowns of the Italian Commedia della Arte period. They became legendary for their increasingly brilliant performances over some years, and consistently tragic deaths at relatively young ages. Many of them went hopelessly insane years before they died; the opera *PAGLIACCI* precisely chronicles a creative retelling of an actual historical case history. Lead poisoning wasn't recognised as the cause of lead's pretty consistent physical and mental double-deterioration downwards spiral.
2) Lead-based housepaint chips ingested by toddlers-- they taste somewhat sweet. Older house restorations must take extreme precautions when power-sanding off old paint layers; lead paint dust is extremely toxic when inhaled, and deposited in the moist lung linings.
Here's the capper: even when finally recognised as dangerously toxic to the touch, lead oxide's seductively pure, creamy white resulted in one of the most bizarre pieces of ladies' cosmetics history. During the late 1880"s, many Victorian women consistently used a combination face cream / light makeup called "Youth Dew". Lead oxide, oils and perfume in a fancy bottle.
"Youth Dew's" covert popularity was due to the routine symptomology of gradual and uninterrupted weight loss, and the initial not-unpleasant slight numbing of the extremities in tandem with a somewhat tranquilising interference with, and gradual reduction of, normal brain function.
"Youth Dew's" pure, creamy white also gave women of that era the fashionably "pale and interesting" look. Their eyes would apparently appear to become larger and more luminous-- due to tissue damage and shrinkage around the eyeball orbits, and gradually increasing permanent pupil dilation.
It was only after a number of women wasted away and died that "Youth Dew" was very publicly and permanently banned. And here's the "punch line": remaining stocks of Youth Dew literally flew off the shelves as the supply warehouses were quickly emptied.
"Fashion Victims" as diabolical irony.
So, *no*, Jamie. You weren't losing *your* mind ;)
we recently did the family tree thing and we had a relative living in scunthorpe england in the 1800s and we got her diary from 34 to 68 when she died,she was kind of a fine hand artist,who states were she worked at a watch factory when she retired the next two oldest workers didnt add up to her age because they all died,she claims it was bcoz she never licked the[could understand word]but we guess she meant brush to get the wink,once again we guess this means the point on the brush instead shed roll it in the v of her fingers,qoute,i warned the younger lassys but none took heed,except lil gwen who went on and outlived them all. we did a search and this was proven to be the case and banned in 1934,some 50 years after the first surgeons warnings
Jamie, that business of licking the fine brush-tip to "point" it for painting the finest and most accurate line is *exactly* the same lethal procedure forced upon teenage American girls who were employed by the *Westclox* company. These unsuspecting young girls were hired to paint radium on watch and clock hands and dials, and required to lick / re-point their brush after each and every dip into the lethal radium paint. There's an absolutely appalling docu about it on CZcams.
These girls were lured into and kept in employment by being paid relatively very generous wages during the American Great Depression. Westclox was well aware that the girls were consistently becoming sickened to the point of incapacity to work, and *death.* Westclox therefore moved its radium dial painting facility across state lines 3 times in an attempt to "outrun the problem".
The girls died horrifying deaths of massive tumours that typically dissolved their jawbones and surrounding tissues, among other serious health issues such as major organ failures. Long story short, nothing was ever done to prosecute Westclox, nor compensate the handful of totally disabled survivors in any way whatsoever. One of the affected girl's bodies was exhumed for forensic examination years after her death, and was determined to be horrifically radioactive.
Lead remains and is detectable in the body long after death, too.
My heart goes out to you and your family, Jamie. Only natural rage, disgust and loathing is due to these corporate mass murderers, aided and abetted by governmentally masked administrative evil.
+Thomas Cervasio for those unaware .Peter is still in use for plates etc, but there are differing types of pewter by the 1600's pewter was graded into atleast three grades of which plates and tureens etc were the highest they do however require special treatment when washing up or your finger prints get etched into the plate.....
The first pour of the pewter bowl would have been successful if the mold wasn't cold. Making the metal hotter will not make the cast correct when the mold itself acts as a massive heatsink ready to suck up all the heat. The pewter was solidifying before it filled the mold because the mold was cold. If the mold was heated and required 10-15 minutes between pour and open then it would have been fine.
Great show. No yelling , cursing , whining , throwing tantrums and objects like American shows
Bugger off, ya ignorant fuck...
I agree.
I agree. No artificial drama...
No cursing? Then what is that at 29:30 after the failed bowl casting attempt? Also, they yell all the time.
Trust, Americans hate the stupid reality shows they put out. Making idiots famous.
Too bad they didn't explain what the finished, individual Roman dishes were.
My guess is the team has found a Casino/Resort because of the broach "good luck" . It's good as any guess.
Love it. At 28:17 Carrenza says "I'm just going to run down" and we get the long shot showing her AND the camera man and sound man running with her. Surprised when she said that, we didn't hear them groan.
James Horn that part got a good chuckle from me
If it isn't tipping down, it isn't TT!
Yep, been dry for months....next day, pours rain
That's *England* for you!
that music tho!
Amber It's just awful...
Really wish there were Google Earth Coords with these. I really like trying to find the sites.
Glad Mick did not fall out of the helicopter!!!
Phil's jean shorts are scandalous!!!😉😉
There is nothing wrong with Phil's shorts. He has great legs and as hard as he works in those trenches he has every right to wear whatever makes him comfortable. Shut up and leave the man alone.
To those who are new to Time Team... Instead of 'Someone Else' coming back to the site to figure out the other range and water course discovered at the end of the program, Time Team revisits the site a few years later. Sorry, I don't recall which Season/Ep it is, perhaps someone else can chime in?
Matt Kustom Kostumes * Season 6-Episode 9: "Turkdean Revisited" 🙃
Sorry, but it isn't, didn't, and won't stop them from asking over and over again
Please tell me that site was listed somewhere to protect it and maybe excavate it properly some day. From what they said it might have been one of the largest Roman villas in Britain.
It was listed as a "Scheduled Monument" in 2012 :)
thought Mick was gonna fall out of the helicopter 😬
Phil Harding and Bill Oddie could do a comedy show together
24:03 its now Monty python lol
“Aww shit!”
14:00 ...the time Tony tells someone off nicely
Love sir Tony r
Did they ever go back to investigate the possible shrine?
Yep there is an episode in the next season: czcams.com/video/sbZO2qarTz8/video.html
Thanks!
Poor Brannigan. He just can’t let go of that patch of hair. JK lol
I'm no expert, but if the mold itself was hot, the pewter wouldn't harden so quickly and would flow throughout all of it. Just a theory :)
It wasn't completely filling because of trapped air. Molds like that normally have extra little vents cut into them, that push the air out as it's being filled. I'm surprised none of them knew that tbh! Shame as even the final one wasn't fully filled :(
@@Jason-Thorne but he's an "expert"...lol. Your theory is sound, not that my opinion matters, but even I could tell you don't have to stay up all night to figure it out, IF you are an expert. Well caught...
Does anybody know if there is a publication about the excavation of the villa in 1997-98?
Greetings from Berlin
Uli
***** Thank You so much,It is wonderful
cotswoldarchaeology.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Turkdean-1.pdf
geophys color graphs for the first time I think
Tony; "One at a time! One at a time!!"......he means; "Carenza!! Shut up!!!"
Do they keep going after the third day?
Tony must have had a low wardrobe budget 🤔. He's wearing (in opening) almost exactly what he wore in most of S04 E06 🤗
In the real world people wear clothes for a long time. Look at Mick's sweaters!
Compared to the rest of the team, he looks overdressed.
When you are going to be around muddy trenches and dirt being fling around you don't want to wear anything that you don't want to get ruined. Archaeology is dirty work and you don't wear a three piece suit for that.
Who's the guy that just yanked the pottery out of the earth so roughly ? :$
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Amazing, too bad they left us with more questions than answers.
They went back Season 6 Episode 9.
@@gracewilson835 Thanks!
Neil, and later Francis, are consistently wrong. Mick is the man r.I.p.
OMFG. Phil & Giles 😽😻😹😹😹😹
if they would have heated the "mold" even lightly they would have got the bowl first or second go of it.
Tony (ruefully): But there are no birds .....
Who the heck is that goofball Bill Oddy and who allowed him in the program?
He's a comedian and British wildlife expert
*That man's hair @ **6:59** beside Mick...is really distracting lol*
Isn't Turkdean mentioned by Indiana Jones?
well, they were supposed to be showing him what to do and how to do it.....
Was this your greatest find in the entire run of the show?
@ 29:24 does Phil actually say... "awww... Shit."?
David Barkes I'm a Buckeye (Ohio, USA) and we 'Johnny Yankees' can be sanctimoniously puritanical. We can spew words that'll wrinkle perma-press.....but we don't wanna hear it on our TV programs.
Yes he did. So what? It could have been a lot worse.
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God Bill Oddie Seems Insufferable.
Yes! It seems like he's never watched Time team before.
Apparently he's a real prick.
Somebody should join Bill Oddie on one of his🐦 🔭watching trips...and when Bill is about to take a photo 📸 of a very rare species of 🦅 ...his "guest" should at that very moment start talking very loudly: making stupid 💬 comments about 🐦.🤘😈
He is as bad as Toxic Sandi Toksvig on the live broadcasts. I assume these "guests" were Tim Taylor's idea. When Time Team first started they received a lot of criticism about treating archaeology like a joke with the fake drama of the three day deadline. Many experts stayed away from taking part. But Mick, Phil, Carenza and the other archaeologists involved insisted on following proper procedures and practices. Slowly the show gained the respect of the community of archaeologists and other experts. It was viewed as helping increase the public's interest in archaeology and therefore increasing the available funding for more field work.
First aired January 25, 1998
cold room warm room hot room?? how bout frigidarium, tepidarium and cauldarium..
Phil lied Tom actually bent a bar of 5160 steel