Entity XXR Broken & Weird Engines? Advanced Handling Flags Part 1 - GTA Fact-Finding №25
Vložit
- čas přidán 23. 03. 2018
- GTA Online's new Super Sport Series update has brought with it many cars like the Entity XXR and Taipan that perform differently than usual. Let's find out how broken they are really are.
See all GTA Fact-Finding videos: • GTA 5 Fact-Finding
Advanced Handling Flag Playlist: • GTA Advanced Handling ...
Handling Data Spreadsheet: bit.ly/gta5vehicleinfo
Post from adam10603: nodo.freeforums.net/post/2948...
How To Go Faster: • How To Go Faster - GTA...
Testing Videos
Lap Times: • GTA 5 Best Fully Upgra...
Top Speed: • GTA 5 Best Fully Upgra...
Tracks
Highway top speed testing: socialclub.rockstargames.com/...
Stunt top speed testing: socialclub.rockstargames.com/...
Track from background race: bit.ly/BroughysTracks (Blaine County 24h Stunt Version)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Watch Me
Subscribe: bit.ly/SubToBroughy
Twitch: / broughy1322
Second Channel: / broughysrandombits
Follow Me
Twitter: / broughy1322
Facebook: / broughy1322
Instagram: / broughy1322
Support Me
Patreon: / broughy1322
Donate: streamlabs.com/broughy1322
Merchandise: broughy.com/merch
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I'm Broughy1322 and I upload a variety of videos in an attempt to inform, entertain, and discuss. These mainly revolve around GTA Online racing but also include vlogs & other games. I take pride in my content so feel free to have a look around my channel and subscribe if you enjoy! Thanks for watching! :)
And finally... watch in 1080p! - Hry
That background race though...
Started 30 seconds late, got involved in massive pile ups, and finally stopped by a fucking train, and still 1st. Feels bad for the Entity and its fans.
I think it showed the difference between the cars rather well XD
That shows that the Vagner beats out all of those cars and thats the car a lot of people are going to use in races, and just ignore other cars.
It was a satisfying watch to be sure. Despite all the collisions, the vagner just looks so clean in comparison.
The Vagner is God tier, but they *Really* messed up on the XXR. Could've at least made made it a a bit slower than the banshee and have the downforce of the nerfed 787b (I forgot the name). I thought it would be more like the Agera R not a CC8
Mattoropael, I like they new entity now just as it is.
And the annoying thing is that one of the coolest looking cars too, I was happy to see that they added a true looking Koenigsegg to the game but too bad its not that fast
This is koenseggis fastest car
I spelled it wrong
Same with the Supra don’t get it. It’s complete shit because of the new physics I get smoked by rusty rebels in it.
Popping in late just to say, you are aware the XF was a thing in the game already, right? If I'm not mistaken the XF is the CCX and the XXR is the Agera R. Both simply stunning cars, so yeah, it is a shame the new additions don't hold their own.
Devin Madrid but Supra is a heavy ass GT car it’s normal that it’s slow on the circuit
They should still make these cars faster just for the hell of it. Having a racing update with no fast cars kind of defeats the purpose.
And do more balancing stuff, so more cars would be competitive in their classes. Including moving some cars to other classes.
Well, the tyrant and the tez seem to have decent performance, wont justify the price though.
Peanut Arbuckle shark card sell will speak
Matthew Gorres It's not bugged. The Pariah gets its speed from a much higher level of engine upgrade compared to everything else. It's a 400% full upgrade compared to the usual 100%.
Shawn Carson that’s why it’s engine is so powerful? If that’s true then that does sound like a bug if they haven’t done that with any other cars
The train just had to make an appearance
I love how Broughy does the testing and explains it. Huge thumbs up man!
I try my best! Thanks :)
I re-watched this entire video with Adblock off. You deserve it and more.
Thank you for the kind words! :D
You would be better off donating instead of wasting your own time.
Syrus7sk you shouldn't it in the first place
@@kingtiger3390 sometimes time is more important
I would like to say, I understand that not all expensive cars need to be fast, but they shouldn't be utter dogshit either. In addition, the original Entity is faster, you said that during your testing video, or at some point, anyway. That shouldn't be the case. I'm not asking for the XXR to blow the Vagner out of the water, I'm asking for it to be better than it is.
video makes alot of sense but if they are using these cars as guinea pigs then they should be selling for guinea pig prices
Exactly
After I impulse purchased it and realised how underwhelming it was, I searched for hours for a video that would explain why the XXR was behaving the way it was. After hundreds of clickbait and useless uninformative videos, I came across this. This is the EXACT video I wanted. It explains everything in perfect context and relevance. Instant subscribe+like. You deserve it! :D
My go-to youtuber when it comes to anything car related in GTA, well done Broughy another fantastic video, keep up the perfect work!
Stfu
jimi go fuck yourself.
Agreed
cerithomas99 ur mom gay
jimi shut up you fucking normie
This is a quality video. All those clickbait big GTA CZcamsrs should be obligated to watch this!
Cactus 'N Gaming they do watch this, this is the only place they get their performance info
They might watch this video, but they will rip off the information that has been researched long and hard for only so that they can make pointless 10 minute videos giving their "thoughts" without actually doing any research themselves just for their own personal greed. I don't care if I offend the fanboys and fangirls out there, let them come at me, I won't change my mind on what I have to say, what I have said in the past or what I will say.
If it wasn't for guys like Broughy or any one in NoDo, who else would be there to gather the relevant information and results from hours upon hours of research, oh wait, I forgot, there would be nobody. I thank Broughy and NoDo for all the hard work they put in to make sure that the information that players receive is as accurate as it could possibly be.
I am not always one to repeat myself, but thank you again Broughy and the NoDo guys for putting in all this time and effort to get all of this information and making sure that it is relevant and accurate
Cactus 'N Gaming broughy is better than most but he dose have some clickbait. All his lap time testing videos start with, gta fastest sports/super cars. At a glance a lot of people would think that what ever car in the thumbnail is the new fastest and would want to check it out, imo he needs to change how he titles those
Lol, don’t worry, they’re watching.
Curb boosting is a big part of what makes racing in this game fun. Especially Stunt races would be absolutely horrible without it. The cars are already too slow as it is, and making them even slower is a terrible idea.
Congratulations on this exceptionally well made video! Really interesting insights, useful information (as always), to the point, very well presented, and some examples to demonstrate and back everything up. Thumbs up!!
I'm baffled though by the fact that even the new cars are slower on perfectly flat stunt road pieces than on the normal highway. Really wouldn't have thought that! But I see it with my own eyes ...
Thanks for the kind words! I'm really happy with how it turned out :)
I guess they did that to kinda encourage people to stick to city roads too?and not just stunt roads but ehh i don't mind it
All video comparisons at 9:15. Every part of the video is important to get an understanding of what's going on, but make sure you stay until 9:15 to see the things I'm talking about for yourself. Also the Hotring Sabre is one of the few from this update (including drip feed cars) that still benefits from kerb-boosting. It doesn't have all of the flags the others do.
Broughy1322 what about the tyrant? It could smash vagner without the flags, the entity xxr stats make it go as fast as the pariah top speed wise too
Do you think that in the same way that they are adding these attributes to new cars to test for new formula to make driving more realistic in the next series. That they are intentionally using bugs to make cars faster to test for a bigger map?
Because that indicates the new map would warrant higher speeds due to its size. That could also be why we are seeing cars break what used to be a hard coded speed barrier that they have to intentionally use bugs like "Tires can Clip" to get higher speeds due to game engine limitations.
Maybe that's why they are adding guns to Sports Classics ect to test more in depth car customization.
Or maybe it would it be a case of "Yes military vehicles have guns and players like them but they are slow and meant for off road so why not give them the option of fast cars with guns".
This was actually really well done, I’m proud of you👍🏻
in america we spell it "Curb"... you crazy foreigners.
>That they are intentionally using bugs to make cars faster to test for a bigger map?
they could always just make cars faster if they wanted to do that
>we are seeing cars break what used to be a hard coded speed barrier
nothing has ever broken the 333.5mph speed barrier. There is no other hard-coded speed barrier and there never has been
>use bugs like "Tires can Clip"
that's not a bug
This is really comprehensive and does give me a lot of information about super car performances I didn't know about. Good job. I'm really impressed at how much you researched and tested the vehicle's perfomances.
Happy to have helped! :)
The new "physics" should be applied for all other cars. Honestly.. I hate things like "Kerb boosting", using offroad tires to go faster R* should remove it ASAP.
But they should add some more speed aswell because cars (especially supercars) are really slow in GTA already.
Agree, that means tires shouldnt react on the bumps but on the surface (sand, dirt) .
ReSpawN the new physics are applied to all cars, cars have less body roll as well as other various things making them easier to drive ... however they don’t have the new flags
mrboxman1 than flags are what i meant
ReSpawN another butthurt idiot who wasted his money before testing and waiting to see which is better 😂
Cleopatra Vll Interesting.. I dont own and never owned anyof the new cars.
I am just waiting for ellie and dominator to be relased - only dlc cars I wanted to buy.
On the one hand, it would be great if every current car also got those new stats that eliminate that stupid curb boost, on the other hand, it would mean that Broughy would have to retest every single vehicle.
I was really looking forward to this video! You're one of the best GTA youtubers and your information really helps all of us who are (always) confused about new changes. Thank you!
Thanks for the kind words :)
Tremendous work as always by you Broughy and the NoDo community :) Thanks for this.
IMO the minimum they could do is create a few new classes
[REDACTED] [REDACTED] hyper car class would be sick
Covert 125 classic supercar class also
GravityX that already exists?
broughy you are just insane. im proud of having you on youtube to make such tests that are that accurate and well done :) thank you very much !
The background gameplay and the explanations fit perfectly. In terms of quality this is *random Train passing by* imho the best fact finding episode you've done. I like the direction in which this channel is going.
Honestly dude, you deserve way more than what you get, a good streamer and youtuber that doesent say shit just to get views is a rarity these days(especially with GTA). Keep up the good work my man.
Thanks for the kind words!
Amazing video. I think you hit the nail on the head when you said they're probably testing for future games or the next GTA
Hmm, huge focus on car physics oddly late into the development cycle.
Could they be preparing for a new Midnight Club?
Please fucking yes
its for the next GTA.
Cornish Pasty how am i lying? There's no reason they'd change the handling unless they're testing it for VI.
Fuck physics I want fun not flagged shit. I call bullshit. I don’t find fun in any of it.
Holy shit you predicted it
Im not much of a racer on GTA, but your content is pretty interesting and not clickbaity, so youve earned a sub. Keep doing you man
You are doing great work - and thank you for talking about testing and relevance - you'd be surprised how many people are using your information as gospel and (literally) accusing people of lying/photoshopping/cheating if they post something contrary to your spreadsheets.
Good ol fact finding videos. Always a good watch and well made regardless of topic.
Also lol @ the train XD
"Fucked-Finding" is back!
In all honesty, this makes so much more sense. Obviously you wouldn't drive your car stupidly fast on a piece of road where there's potholes, uneven asphalt, etc. All these updates could indeed have been nothing but a clever guise to experiment with different sorts of mechanics.. And I wouldn't really mind these new vehicle coding if it were to be applied to all the vehicles, but that may very well be the case in the newer installment of the game should there be another. As always, very informative video bossman! And reverse Hotring races should be a thing kappa
Rip I keep making that mistake when attempting to redact a word... Good catch lol
definitely examples a lot about what's going on with these cars. I haven't brought them yet cause I haven't been on gta.
thus video was definitely helpful and dropped a like.
I think Rockstar should make insanely fast cars, which are not able to race. Something completely stupid. Cmon, it's a Video game. Gran Turismo did something crazy and people liked it, Why not GTA?
Maguhnox534 yes but they do crazy things not on purpose lol
Bat mobile is much faster than any other car and can't be used in races
They added a flying car and a flying bike and everyone cracked the shits
Another great video. Thanks! Keep up the great work you doing for us !!!
Good job, well-done man~ Your videos are truly a proper testing video.
Impressive video. One of the best I've seen for a long time. 👍
A good video to watch more than once. Presented lie a well written essay. Top quality stuff this. Thanks, Broughy.
As always you are the best and the smartest when it comes to these cars and finding the truth about them.
Honestly I like the handling model of the XXR. They feel realistic and heavy. I woudn’t mind if r* changed everything else. I hope they focus on this handling model in the next game.
I hope Rockstar leaves microtransactions out of the next GTA😶
Ryan Lewis that rant belongs on other videos broughy has made, let’s not get into that in a dedicated car video xD
PendolaRIP I replied to a comment that brought up the next game...
They should enable the ability to have sex with other online characters/players in gta 6. It would be so funny to see two tryhards mining for brown nuggets in an alleyway or behing some bushes.
the handling model is exactly the same, the only thing that's changed is the two flags mentioned in the video
Great video. I have to say that your videos have helped me a great deal. Especially with the hierarchy of my garage. That highlight of the difference between city and highway is really helpful. I now feel justified as my suspicion about that is confirmed. But I'm just a car nut lol. I know the Albany cars are slow but I am from TX and in H-town slabs are a thing so in Los Santos you might catch me ridin in one escaping the LSPD lol
Very well done analysis. Thanks for the great information
Excellent explanation! Thank you once again Broughy.
Exceptional video, love the quality of information.
Nice video. Clear and precise information well presented. Hope everyone gets this.
I've continued to ask people if these 'bugs' on the new cars making them slower would be fixed, broughy as usual comes up with the goods! Things make a bit more sense now as to why these cars may 'seem' slower! Cheers broughy mate 👍
Thanks for all the informations that Video was really interesting keep Up the good Work :)
Broughy is a BEAST on the track, great video as always, cheers
Bugged or not, I'm hoping the community outrage results in another Banshee 900R case, where they'll take their underperforming crap and make it useful in SOME regard. Christian von Koenigsegg would lose his mind if he saw his metal monsters depicted as being this useless.
UGU Zach Only R* can take the world's fastest car (Koenigsegg Agera) and make it slow
UGU Zach Lets be real... Christian doesn't give a fuck what goes on in a video game
Ajit 'I have a micropenis' Pai He does care about his brand as much as such person could, so I would be surprised if he didn't take note of every lookalike that appears anywhere.
Or they’ll just make the new drip fed cars faster so everybody will buy that, and then make the slow ones that they released previously fast so everybody spends even more money.
Secular Unity STOP GIVING THEM IDEAS
Anyone ever consider that what they're doing with these cars lately might be some sort of public yet secret testing for GTA 6?
edit: nvm Broughy just said that lol.
Best video you've made this year. Good job lad.
Thanks! :)
Thanks for the info, Broughy. Guess we have to hope for the best for the remaining vehicles coming out.
thorough, informative, and well-presented - nicely done, Broughy
Thanks! :D I'm happy with how it turned out
tl:dw RDR2 is not going to have kerbboosting!
servenToGo Rd2 story mode...5 out of 5 stars...
Rd2 online...1 out of 5 stars...
One of if not the most knowledgeable youtuber when it comes to GTA
I like how polite this video was. :)
Firstly I'm glad my one car is the Vagner. Awesome race!
And second, I think that I almost could understand that about the new car mechanics. Thirdly that is really pretty bad that they are wanting to use us as guinea pigs, and not only that. But we are also supposed to be paying them for this dubious honor.
at around 4:30 ur right about the rev thing in the new cars, when ever i took a corner i would go first person and itll sit at high rpm for 3-5 seconds
It sucks that one of my all time favorite vehicles was part of this particular test group and can't be competitive, but I actually kinda like how these new cars perform. I hated the fact that going over a curb at high speeds was not only fine, but encouraged in this game. I know it's done so that people wouldn't constantly crash and damage their cars, but going over objects clearly higher than their bumpers should have been made less beneficial. R* isn't known for overly realistic physics, but they somewhat try to model real world situations, and having a supercar hop over a curb and benefit from it always struck me as odd.
So it's nice to see curb boosting toned down for these cars, but their top speeds are a sin, especially given what the Taipan and XXR are modeled after.
Mike G The last bit I fucking swear. If they're gonna test new mechanics under the guise of an update, they could at least not do it with expensive as fuck cars that are modelled after some of the quickest and fastest cars in the world. Ffs Koenigsegg Agera R in real life is literally the fastest production vehicle and rockstar managed to turn it into an in-game rust bucket.
I never knew about the curb boosting thing in GTA V, and I always assumed when I was driving in the city it felt faster because there are more points of reference flying by than out in the country (Especially since there is no official in game speedometer outside of lobby speed trials).
I also forgot how much grip the Vagner has, as I've been driving around the Tzeract getting my monies worth and noticing its horrendous lack of grip.
Great video, here's hoping that GTA 6 has no kerb-boosts, nice physics and balanced cars for racing
That's asking a lot XD But who knows
Dat overtake though near the end to go from second to first!!
If they're going to implement new features like this, they should update old stunt tracks to work with their speed. I cannot make jumps on stunt races in the Sabre at all.
Still the best in the industry. Very well done. Thanks for the information.
good video, thanks for the info Broughy :)
Great video. Well presented and very factual.
Thank you! :)
Broughly1322 i'd love to see you get an interview with one of the rockstar developers working on these car profiles! I know you'd really rack their brain. I'm also just curious to see how passionate they are towards cars & handling in general and to really see if some of these changes are for balance in future installments.
I there anyway you could test the entity xxr with the flags set to normal? We know it wouldn't be top tier but I'm interested where it could end up. Would it still be slower than the OG entity?
It would likely be quicker, or around the same area as OG entity. It may be possible to test it in future.
If you watched the whole video you would have seen that the Entity XXR is actually faster than the X-80 Proto that he compared it to on highways and stunt track. It is only slower in the city.
Very intelligent and informative video! It's cool that they're testing stuff out for the next game but they shouldn't charge millions upon millions for test prototypes.
Exactly.
mann i love this guy bro. well said mate.
11:37 I wanted to burst out laughing, but I didn't want to wake up everyone in the house.
Personally I love for kerb boosting to be a thing of the past, but all cars need to be done, great vid
Jesus all of this for a game that doesnt necessarily focus on racing. Insane facts man,
Is the Hotring affected too? I've been doing those races and I see guys kerb boost and they pull away, even though custom cars are off and so is catchup and slipstream. They start hitting those bumps and give out a big fat "See ya!" lol
the hotring sabre has a bug too. anytime you're car shifts down to 2nd like in the comet ect you hit the gas and get a speed boost. in the sabre you actually lose all power to engine but still get the rev sound. basically if you feel it's about to double clutch don't let it let off the gas for a sec
Well thought out and easy to understand. I'm wondering if this was a one off thing or will future vehicles have this handling flag? How hard or easy would it be to give those properties to all vehicles?
Nice video broughy
Holy hell how much time do you spend on a video? This is a dedication on a new level!
Nice video!
I’ve seen a lot of curb-boosting on the new hotring circuits...and it appears to be at least moderately effective. I do not think the new hotring saber has this flag turned on
This video is top notch quality even for Broughy standards, gg.
I'm assuming the hotring doesn't have the anti curb boosting thing? Because I pulled away from everybody last night while I was curb boosting and nobody else was, with custom off
Top tier content on GTA; Broughy is the man.
Always an education!
Now we need a Broughy explanation for Rockstar's broken auto-ban robots :p (joking - there is no explanation)
Yeah,that's the only big issue i got with R* they're baning AI wich is indeed fked up,got banned 2 times in a row and after few years one more time and it was permanent and of course for no reason.They should really focus on fixing that rather than anything else.
Does the hotring saber have kerb boosting of not? I have been racing for the last few days and can’t notice the difference.
Wellcome to another video where we are talking about some cars hahahahahah New soundbite for twitch, has to be. that was legitimately funny. Had to pause the video.
Thank u I was gonna buy the tezeract but now ima cop the Vagner
Great video! Just waiting for a "big youtuber" like chaotic to rip this video with a headline like [GTA 6 CONFIRMED!?] New handling stats from GTA 6 IN GTA 5? Well maybe not that his audience is probably mainly 7 years old so wouldn't understand but you know what I'm trying to say.
your driving skills are insane
Does this also apply to the Hotring Racer? I've been curb glitching in all the HRR Races, & It seems to still be working. Only for the HRR though..
So does this affect the new Sabre Hotring as well? I’ve done a couple of non-contact Hotring Races, one in a custom upgraded Sabre and one in a stock version, kerb boosting throughout. Each time I seemed to be getting about a 1 second per lap advantage and managed to win both races.
Not all the new cars have all the flags. Even through the Hotring feels a bit weird in free roam, I believe it does kerb boost. In my experience in pub races with Customs and catchup off, about 4 seconds a lap on La Mesa HRRC, though no idea on what frames the random's pcs were running.
I’m still trying to figure if I want the tezeract or the xxr. Add in the looks of the car and the speed and everything and help me figure out which one is better pls
This is very informative for when I go next gen. I'm just not 100% sure on anything. I guess what I do generally is I have one super for fastest overall, and one for fastest top speed, then maybe another for style preferences.
Which of your videos cover last gen? IIRC they stopped transferring characters almost one year ago at this point. So other than patches for certain things, they have not updated anything.
As it is on last gen I've not been able to unlock everything because either I've raced all the land races solo that are available, or when I do get people to race against I'm competing against someone who already has fully upgraded vehicles. I've wondered at the R* editor and if I could get my remaining wins that way by making various different races like that.
Reverse speed info is useful for those of us who like to do the reverse driving challenge.
And speaking of relevance, still want to see you test off-road and rally cars on a dirt road, in addition to the regular testing.
SUVs as well, or at least mention their off-road traction loss.
Yeah so let's make a video for 2 people in the world that like to do those challenges. You can also just test it yourself mate, it takes little effort.
it would also be nice if they would tell us about this or something. keep your fans updated you know? one more thing that they should do is, to at least make it fair in the next update.
I think the Viseris also have this "new flag thing" cause when i double clutch it does the same thing than the new cars 😕 because apparently its top speed got fixed on this update
Could you please check kerboosting for the hotring Sabre? It doesnt feel that hitting kerbs slows the car but the contrary.
Thanks for your videos
TeleHorstmann agree
Can you "use" the advanced shifting flags to your advantage, or at least counter them with how you control the gas? I was hoping they might introduce a slot car like mechanic where you really needed to control the rev of your engine.
Broughy: a stone in GTA V's shoe (that continually re-spawns, apparently) :)
I sent Rockstar a support ticket asking about the new super cars just to get some information, and apparently they are working fine and how they want them to work and said they were being monitored.
Removing curb boosting is good because it makes racing lines more important that how many curbs you can hit.
It does seem to me like they fully understand that cars are the reason for most shark card sales and that racing within GTA is bigger than it being a military style game.
Just a thought maybe you should add a ramp off the road to jump the trail if it passes in a race.
Since we got new weather patterns for old races, you should begin making the newest installation of "The fastest weather around the test track", because the magical date is mere 8 days away ;-)