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- Two men have been charged with spying for China in Britain. Recently similar arrests have been made in Germany and America. Chinese espionage is everywhere. But has the world become complacent? China expert Nicholas Eftimiades speaks to Kate Andrews. Also on the show, Security Minister Tom Tugendhat backs the Prime Minister's decision to increase defence spending; Dr Jay Bhattacharya and Dr Sunetra Gupta reveal some of the lies told throughout the pandemic and Robert Tombs debates Alex Renton on the Church of England’s reparations fund.
00:00 Welcome from Kate Andrews
01:28 Has the West become complacent to China's spy tactics? With Nicholas Eftimiades
12:25 Is 2.5 per cent spending on defence enough? Tom Tugendhat
23:34 What lessons must be learnt from the Covid pandemic? With Dr Jay Bhattacharya & Dr Sunetra Gupta
44:38 Should the Church of England pay reparations? With Robert Tombs & Alex Renton
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Jay Bhattacharya and Sunetra Gupta are two absolute heroes of the truth.
I watched my farther die online and could not travel from NZ to the UK to attend his funeral. I appreciate that we need to be calm and collected about getting answers , but answers I want. Jabbed I was, locked down we were for months, my kids education effected. I’m sitting here now and I want answers, I want people to be held to account. We could see this was a mess from the outset, but we were forced to abide, coerced if being polite. No, we do not need more political input, they caused this mess, trust has been completely lost. A political apology, who are they, sorry, it time for change of the whole system.
I agree. However, they call for openness and transparency from a government commissioned inquiry into the behaviour of government. Good luck with that.
What about the West African countries that enslaved the victims in the first place. Will they pay reparations for their actions ?
You mean the people that form the elite of those countries because they got rich off the slave trade. I highly doubt it.
lol if they wanted to they couldn't
Congratulations to Professor Jay Battacharya for winning his case against the US Federal Government.
It’s do-gooders like Renton, who make the problem worse, not better. Someone with a sense of guilt trying to understand someone with a sense of victimhood will only create animosity against those who were never involved in human trafficking.
If the pompous chap who parades his slave owning ancestry is so keen to see reparations made, why is he so keen to spend other peoples money on it but makes no mention of having donated any of his own?
If Britain should have to take a lead on this, despite already having done so by investing huge amounts in stopping the trade across the seas (leaving us with a national debt only recently repaid) then shouldn't those with actual clear links and privileges be the first to pay up individually?
Unbelievably sanctimonious twaddle on a subject where the impacts of the wrongs committed are hard to break down in terms of blame and impact multiple generations on.
Reparations sums - cost of abolishing slavery = 0
@@williamgiddings9636 It's likely close enough as makes no difference.
It's such a shame that the ideal of equal opportunities was so short-lived before the extremists got hold of the narrative and pushed the divisive idea that equal outcomes was a better target.
Equality of opportunity long term would produce a great society instead of the two wrongs do make a right system we're using now 🤦♂️
I don’t think Robert Tombs needs to broaden his mind. Unbelievable pompous twaddle from Alex Renton.
Renton's snarky ad hominem attacks didn't help his case. All he did was prove that the professor was a far more able debater with greater in depth historical knowledge. And quibbling that 1834 wasn't 200 years ago. As if that made any difference to his argument was just plain childish.
Alex Renton’s selective sackcloth and ashes is just a modern day parlour game where the rich participants pat themselves on the back for aligning themselves with the supposed oppressed. Being an historian involves resisting groupthink and here Tombs demonstrates he more than capable of this while resisting the supercilious barbs of the amateur.
Whats the difference between a miner in the UK at that time and a slave in Jamaica or USA, both worked 6 days a week, neither could run away, the miner paid rent to the mine owner, had no money left after buying food and paying for health care, clothes, etc, etc. Then he was in the same place as the slave, if not worse off, i.e. black lung, dead by 50yrs old. No reparations for the miner. This is utter, utter nonsense...............................
Reparation claims are mostly arbitrary and infinitely regressive.
A UK miner and his family could not be sold to another mine owner. They were not chattels.
Do you think a slave was paid so they could buy food, healthcare and clothes? Was the miner owned by the mine and therefore not free to leave? Which mines and in which county? Not Wales.
@@phwbooth Untrue. There were laws (in part of Scotland at least) which prevented miners or their families leaving the mines. If the mine were sold, they were forced to stay on as part of the enterprise. Effectively, the miners were sold as part of the property. They were de facto slaves, even if the lawyers might shave hairs. Even without those laws in other parts of the UK, the original point is totally valid about life being virtually the same (often worse) for miners (and many other industrial workers) in the UK, when compared to that of the slaves. Neither had any power to improve their lot in life; both were subject to arbitrary punishment; and the working conditions of the miners were arguably worse.
@@borderlands6606 Indeed - and there's multiple questions that would be exceptionally difficult to answer.
For example...
How do you differentiate between slave descended and slave-taker descended citizens of the nations of origin? And what do you do with people descended from BOTH?
How do you harvest tax money to pay reparations in a way that doesn't tax the descendents, or people who aren't descended from anyone who benefitted from it?
It's all awfully complicated and would cost more to administrate and calculate than it would to pay up fairly (Sir Humphrey would approve)...
When slavery is still present in the world now, perhaps we'd be better "paying it forward" on behalf of those in the past, by preventing people's today from having to suffer the same helplessness they felt - I imagine they'd approve more of that than of an unthinking and unspecific reparations whitewash.
Mr Renton could perhaps be advised that sneery personal attacks don't actually do much to convince listeners to his (rather weak) viewpoint.
Most British people lived in absolute poverty until the late 1800's, then the men got blown up in France in 1917. We need to start living in the present.
It wouldn’t matter how much you gave them, they would only piss it against a wall.
Robert Tombs maintaining his courteousness in the face of endless ad hominem attacks and snide argumentation on the part of the descendent of slavers. Speaking of whom judging by the fact he’s written a book about his family and the slave trade it seems like he’s still making money from it. All proceeds to the descendants of slaves. Perhaps that’s already the case?
Alex Renton rather overstates his case. Professor Tombs is rather more measured.
Alex Renton comes across as a very entitled, arrogant fellow.
Alex Renton: Engages in thinly vailed insults to Robert Tombs. Fainnes inability to grasp that his family got there money from UK tax payers and should repay it. He does not come across as a good faith actor in making his arguments.
Maybe Renton's too stupid to be expected to be a good faith actor? I suspect that the interaction of his performative benign activism without responsibility for having to pick up the bill has created a bit of a mistake in action?
Alex Renton strikes me as a very emotional and easily ruffled man, unable to hide his indignation at a nuanced differing opinion, responding only with sarcasm and obtuse hyperbole.
Re: slavery. Why are we so obsessed with what we did wrong and so oblivious to our triumphs? William Wilberforce .... Wilberforce .... WILBERFORCE!!!
Good to see Professor Sunetra Gupta on U-tube. Pity we couldn't see or hear from her from February 2020 until now, April 2024.
As is often the case, people like Alex want to show that they are truly good people and distance themselves from slave-owning ancestors, but please don't self-flagellate on our behalf. While CARICOM might put forward a robust plan with tech transfer and debt forgiveness as what they are seeking as reparations, it is a fact that Caribbean politicians intentionally mislead the electorate by not correcting the assumption that local people will receive piles of money. So for Alex to characterize this as just a "right wing" understanding of reparations is incorrect. The average person in the Caribbean is not calling for reparations. Self-interested politicians, academics, and self-styled "activists" are the only people doing this. Caribbean people want their governments to get their act together and stop shaming us with this incessant begging. The majority of the historians Alex alludes to produce work with little intellectual depth. The standard of evidence used to declare their writings as historical fact is virtually non-existent. Eric Williams was a brilliant, Oxford-educated historian who would later become Prime Minister of Trinidad, but neither his brilliance nor the passion of his arguments make historical fact. The thesis of his Capitalism and Slavery is still debated among historians, but most Caribbean politicians and academics pretend this is not the case. Professor Tombs is spot on with his arguments. "Historical truth is not decided by counting heads but by the assessment of evidence".
If the CoE has some spare dosh perhaps they should spend it on the homeless in the UK? If Renton wants to assuage his own personal and family guilt perhaps he should donate his wealth and then go and live in Africa to work his guilt off?
exactly!
"dosh" I had never heard that word (USA here), but I love it. Gonna start using it. 😊
Reparations should not be paid, when would it end, how far back should we go, reparations are a nonsense.
I say pay reparation to people if they forfeit their passports.
We should admire Mr Renton sincerity in acknowledging the utter shame of his family. But is campaigning for others, who did not receive his bounty, to pay reparations on his behalf sufficient? Surely he must now dispose of all his personal wealth and submit himself to live as a slave for the rest of his life?
You cannot work for two masters. He already has a master (Satan).
Slaves were owned by less than 0.01% of British and Commonwealth citizens. They know the families involved, because the other 99.99% of society had to pay them off to free their slaves. I would suggest, that this is where any reparation money should come from. My family history does not involve slavery, rather the reverse on my mother's side they were fisherman and farmers from Norway, on my father's side they were the poorest of the poor from Irish stock. So sorry, you are not getting a penny of my money through taxation to pay for the sins of a tiny minority. The way forward is for the government firstly to enact a special tax on the ancestors of those slave owners, this should be split 50/50 between paying back the UK tax payer for paying to free those slaves and payments to the ancestors of slaves in the West Indies. The sum was 5% of GDP at the time, so that is about £150bn to be collected from that handful of families that benefitted so greatly from this. Those old land owning families are still extremely rich, this wrong should be fixed with their money, since they benefitted.
Christians were buying slaves in order to free them, but we don't hear about that do we. William Wilberforce a British white man was the person who freed all the slaves, they never mention him. Churchil fought against slavery in Africa for free and risked his life. No mention of it. Britain led the world against the Nazis and freed all their slaves. The media is shameful.
38:00 .. How can she possibly think “the vaccines worked” when they don’t stop infection or transmission ?
Do you think malaria tablets prevent you from getting malaria? You probably do 🤦♀️ so l’ll educate you. They don’t. What they do do, is significantly reduce the chance of you dying of malaria if you do get it. That’s it. That’s the best there is so despite taking malaria pills you still need to try very hard not to get malaria because like Covid there are some nasty side effects. You’ve used up your one-stupid-comment-per-day so no more allowed today!
My ancestors of Alex, then what is he personally paying if he feels so righteous. I find him condescending and, we did not invent salvery. Plus, it is still going on. Look at mining for EV cars for starters.
Did this man give the profits from his book to anti-slavery projects? I suspect not.
"Protecting you from going to hospital...." unless you develop myocarditus, have a spinal stroke, a heart attack, neuroligical problems and so on and so on 😂
When are you going to give Dr Jay Bhattacharya and Dr Sunetra Gupta some proper columns in The Spectator Fraser?
As a former Soviet Jew living in UK for the last 30 years, I could easily prove that the Jews of Eastern Europe have no less reason to demand reparations from the UK than those whose ancestors were enslaved. I could claim the right to reparations not only for the fact that Jewish and Slav people were enslaved by the Anglo-Saxons for much longer than the Africans. But mainly for vastly limiting the Jewish immigration to the land of Israel before the WW2, when it was the British mandate. Only 15 thousands were allowed to come (instead of 50-100 thousands of those who would have done), due to the Arab revolt, not wishing to confront the Islamist leaders, and many other issues. Which of course, one could argue, facilitated Jews remaining in Europe and being obliterated by Holocaust. And it’s very concrete perished 11 members of my Belarusian family I’m talking about.
Guess what. I’m not going to demand anything. Because I have a wide vision of history and, sorry to be so old fashioned, a sense of gratitude.
I believe that Britain already made the reparations to me and all Jews of Eastern Europe. By defeating the Nazi, at some point fighting them on its own. By helping to bring the totalitarianism of USSR down, thanks to Margaret Thatcher’s influence on Gorbachev. By sending massive humanitarian help to the falling apart Soviet Russia in 1990-s (when I learned what marmite was). By allowing me to immigrate here legally, and by giving me a fantastic chance to participate in an advanced socioeconomic society, that the people of this country have been building for centuries. Through the blood and sweat. I came here to study with £3 per day in my pocket and with poor English.
I HUGELY APPRECIATE what chance I was given. I worked hard, made a use of myself built a carier of a piano teacher, paying my tax, had a lovely family with 4 kids, and remained grateful ever since.
And I wouldn’t allow some demagogues with a rather narrow history views to try and train me to become a professional victim. To satisfy their narcissistic saviour tendencies.
Don't expect the general public to care these people are barely literate! Why would they care for reports and facts when they cannot make a sentence with more than 5 words in it? Accept that the people are devilslaves and the few who are not we are fighting the info war alone.
"Jewish and Slav people were enslaved by the Anglo-Saxons"
When was this?
@@jayw7682 czcams.com/video/H4g5dY7mVyQ/video.htmlsi=-owRIaaJkzg_U4dE
The Anglo -Saxons came to Britain as descendants of Germanic tribes that always throughout the centuries participated in catching Slavic and Jewish people for slave trading. The world slave comes from the world ‘Slav’.
czcams.com/video/xU2KwlWL1Us/video.htmlsi=qtp7MApZdqiz20UG
@@anyakirby2014 In the context of a video about British history, talking about the "Anglo-Saxons" makes it sound as if you mean Britain. In fact, you are talking about the actions of Germanic tribes in central Europe more than a thousand years ago, before England even existed. I can't see that that has any relevance here.
Kate Edwards is being very credulous re all aspects of the Covid pandemic. She needs an intensive course of watching Dr John Campbell and his interviews.
Why does no one ask the obvious questions? Why are we driving so hard towards net zero, where it benefits China, at the loss of our own manufacturing bases? Shift from the oil mafia in the middle east to the eastern mafia?
The government UK Covid enquiry is asking the wrong questions.
Of course, they have a preset goal. Cover up the real enquiry results and hide the true purpose of it and those who were bought off to make it happen.
46:00 One of my ancestors (Adam) ate an apple. Where can I buy a hairshirt?
Gosh, Kate sounds quite pro lockdown and pro covid vaccines for all on that segment -
Renton is barely worth listening to. There are more people enslaved today than at any point i history. Maybe this is the concern to be addressed
But those people are not enslaved by whites so nobody cares, they only care about slaves if they can target white people. They couldn't give a fig about actual suffering.
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Regarding the brief coverage of the mRNA intervention, there’s now a court case in Australia against Pfizer & Moderna due to them bypassing the GMO (genetically modified organisms) Legislation, which I understand, is also relevant in the UK.
If you were asked to take a serum containing billions of genetically modified organisms which hadn’t yet been tested for long term consequences, would you have volunteered? Just asking!
“The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it.”
- George Orwell
The CofE is implacably opposed to reform of leasehold arguing it will deprive charities of much needed funds, not lest of which it’s own, yet it finds £100 million for this ridiculous venture.
My comment was deleted just for repeating what was discussed between Dr Jay Bhattacharya and Dr Sunetra Gupta in the video.
YT comments are a joke. Not worth reading or writing.
@@HickalumI’m reading yours. Not worth commenting on.
Does Kate Andrew’s like the idea of reparations since timewise she seemed to favor the pro reparations speaker far more than the anti reparations historian.
Also, please get people names right. It’s Sinetra Gupta with the emphasis on the middle E, it’s not Sinatra as in Frank.
We’re apparently offered the choice of two perspectives on reparations. No.1, a sober, pragmatic attitude informed by actual, historical research, or No.2, the belief that we should all rightly become activists for the inversion of a supposed hierarchy of wealth, power and privilege based on a neo-Marxist narrative. Er … I’ll take No.1 please, Kate.
Privileged education means a more expensive one, only accesible to a certain strata of society. It definitely doesn’t mean a better one.
Openness and transparency from a government commissioned inquiry into the behaviour of government? Good luck with that.
"The vaccines have saved millions of lives." This statement is in conflict with the Infection Fatality Rate (that if a string flu). When your mindset is biased towards the expectation of a high death rate yet very few actually die, then that is your conclusion. Also consider how the death statistics were gamed to promote vaccine uptake.
Smart people never took it.
Good points, well made and insufficient emphasis was placed upon "of COVID" and "with COVID" in the analysis of the death toll. Anyway, here we have a call for openness and transparency from a government commissioned inquiry into the behaviour of government. Good luck with that. We see how our politicians stay away from parliamentary debates on excess deaths in their droves. They are an utter disgrace.
A very bad take there. Those drugs were never safe - as they weren't taken through the correct safety procedures of testing - and also use a highly experimental new type of technology. There's also the fact that were other treatments, which were well established - but were completely dismissed and not allowed to be used. We have sadly found out how dangerous the new "treatments" were(see former BBC presenter Liz Shaw).
How many government MPs, civil servants and government health professionals had shares in the pharmaceutical companies?
I was intrigued with the chap stating that he is up for reparations for the ongoing effects of slavery, I would love to know the ongoing effects slavery. My understanding was the UK finally paid off my the debts to get rid of slavery in 2015, so as far as the ongoing effects I would say the UK had some of the longest effects of abolishing slavery and so perhaps Africa and the USA should pay us.
One can think that the introduction of free wage labour introduced by the development of capitalism on England also contradicted the need for slavery. Thereby slavery was indeed particularly onerous in the process of that development and that that development itself was needed to make slavery immoral. In his ethics, Aristotle could not conceive of a world without slavery. Its also important to note that if individuals want to pay salve their conscience, that's up to them. But british society is diverse and many people come from colonies that were not enslaved, and many people's ancestors were badly treated by the Industrial Revolution. Don't try and salve your conscience through inculcating others into your virtue signalling.
Remnants of slavery?
They died as the people directly impacted by slavery died.
Psychological hurt due to historical knowledge of slavery is self-induced and can affect anybody with an acute sense of empathy.
Economical impacts? There is nothing to say that any country that has suffered from slavery would somehow now be more wealthy had slavery not taken place. Further, that GDP counterfactual is riddled with confounding events - wars, innovation, investment, political reforms.... Good luck with estimating how those countries would be faring now in the absence of slavery. The OBR and other economic forecasters cannot even extrapolate wealth beyond a few years let alone several centuries.
And a rarely state consequence of slavery is that many of those descendants of slaves would not exist if their ancestors had not been enslaved and transported.
Since the pharmaceutical companies told us the medications were safe and effective and would prevent transmission of the 'virus', and it has transpired these were lies, should every pound paid them be returned to compensate families of had family members die or for those that had suffered serious side effects?
If Alex Renton thinks reparations should be paid because his ancestors, and through inherited wealth himself, benefited significantly through slavery then I have no problem in him making restitution personally but that does not give him the right to demand it of others who did not.
If he wants an idea of how much of his personal wealth he should pony up, may I respectfully suggest he starts from a figure of 100%, and then justify reducing that figure.
Finally I found his snide dismissive tone disgusting and unworthy of a serious journalist and more appropriate to a bigoted activist.
The supercilious Renton was almost unwatchable. The irritating giggling throughout his sanctimonious tripe was equally as annoying as his unimpressive name-dropping.
Welfare packages may have helped in some countries during the covid debacle. However, we are all suffering now with huge inflation caused by that money printing.
Well _not all of us_ I think about 4% of the country did well out of the whole thing.
I wrote twice to Grant Shapps (April 2020 and September 2020) expressing concern that i and many members of the medical profession considered Covid to be a scam. No answer. Many wrote to their MPs with similar comments. Another person here in the same village also wrote to Grant got no reply and went to one of his day surgeries. All Grant did was waffle and refused to answer ANY questions!
ALEX RENTON IS HILARIOUS
Why has the next section of the government UK Civid enquiry has now been postponed until AFTER the next general election?
Because they need time to arrange "the evidence" to hide who is corrupt. Definitely not Cameron and Galloway, Starmer and the previous Labour ministers. No no no.
Kate Andrews pathetic defence of what has been described in Hansard as "‘.. the greatest medical scandal in this country in living memory, and possibly ever: the excess deaths in 2022 and 2023." really is beyond sickening.
ah, so Poland does the fighting, and UK provides the weapons: Brilliant!
The MOD needs to stop wasting money and stopping design by committee would go some way to doing that. Look at the Ajax "Scout", there's just no way that's a scout vehicle. They should have just adapted the very successful CRVT design which gave us the Scimitar, Spartan and Scorpion. Modernised versions developed using iterative design would have been far cheaper, more likely to succeed and quicker to delivery.
Alex Renton blames the slave trade for racism in this country. Who is one to blame for racism, particularly against black people, in Russia? Or racism in other countries, the Middle East, for example. It is a fact that Iranians look down on Arabs, regarding them as inferior.
It's backward logic. The racism caused the slave trade, and Britain only got rid of the sympton rather than tackle the cause.
30:45 Jay, I would reserve judgement as to whether the care homes disaster in Sweden early on was caused by poor quarantining methodoligies. It is possibe that the care homes fiasco could have been a mirror of what happened in the UK, a panicked use of midazolam-morphine end-of-life treatment as spelled out in that hastily scribbled Ng163 (or the Swedish equivalent). Let's not be too quick to blame the Swedish epidemiologists, if it was possibly the panicked medical establishment that was to blame. We need to urgently do an investigation.
They doctors panicked enmasse, with senior older doctors and olderconsultants hiding either through ignorant early fear of the virus or worse fear for their careers if they were seen to oppose the overbearing media and bureaucratic narrative.
So leaving lost younger doctors to dose out the murderous sedatives.
Seriously - did the whole of the Spectator not have one British host
but needed to put a drawling American there? I am not British,
but my ears atrophy from hearing all R:s and L:s and only nasal vowels.
They can't stand facts
28:00 The Covid Enquiry, what a joke.
On a lighter note, was John Edmunds referring to Carl Heneghan or Steve Powis as the "fuckwit"? On my asking him later, he says he doesn't know, he was confused. I wonder how many taxpayer £s were wasted on discussing "fuckwits".
When I questioned him about Sunetra giving evidence, this was his reply: "I think that Carl Heneghan was chosen to give the case for the opposition. I am.biased, I know, but I think he showed how poorly thought out their position was".
Nope John, I have no doubt who the "fuckwit" was, it was you.
Until recent advances anytime two cultures come into contact for the first time they fought and one enslaved the other.
Defense spending??? You mean WAR - offensive spending - and UKRAINE - we are sick of this!! Second quest
Been saying it for MONTHS finally something happens!!
Mr Renton tries but it's embarrassing to watch him fail so abysmally. Like watching a 17 year old debater (and they are usually better).
That's why they don't allow comedians to be funny anymore lol
Looking back you can mark this and bad. But hindsight is hindsight. The uk can be gone said it has to pay back being an empire or …
A couple of points about reparations & slavery. If the African or Caribbean countries were doing better than us, would we still be talking about it? And slavery? How about we campaign to eradicate slavery *today* instead of talking about what happened 170+ years ago. Who makes a t-shirt which costs £2.50 available on all our high streets? (Clue: Famous retailer PRI....)
More gotcha style ‘look at me’ interviewing from Kate Andrews. Charmless.
Sweden didn't do well compared to other Nordic countries.
While defending our own shores is extremely important the only people to benefit from an increase in arms production is the elite or those with already huge amounts invested in said companies.
Kate Andrews needs to learn how to ask questions and not just argue with someone she is interviewing. It gets really annoying to listen to.
I disagree with the suggestion that China has become more aggressive because it can. More likely, as in common with most other autocratic regimes, the leader needs to shore up his leadership by giving wealth to his supporters and uses some sort of threat to cover for the elimination of opposition. In my view the real reason for China's increasing belligerence is a result of its swing away from government by a coalition of men to government by one man, i.e. a swing into increasing authoritarianism resulting in all the usual court politics associated with kingship.
Says literally no-one.
The rest of the planet know what's up.
This young lady's slighty gargly vocal fry is unfortunate.
I wonder how much of Africa's gdp slavery represented lol
2 images one after the other: Xi and Putin versus Zelensky and Biden. Which team is stronger to win within our global world?
You mean why don't people know those 4 are on the same team!
120 b gbps? 😊😮❤
Urgh. Tugendhat is absolute poison - Tony Blair without charisma
Renton is such an archetypal sanctimonious virtue signaller. Why oh why is the slave trade so much more important then any other crime against humanity? The horrors suffered by others people across the globe in different societies have been equally appalling , but Rentons attitude here will earn him high moral status in the current climate, which he obviously yearns for. The race card trumps everything despite the fact that those involved and profited from it were of the same ethnic background themselves.
Every stage of Covid pandemic explained?
Follow the money.
I hope the caribbean countries are also negotiating with the Arab nations who took far more slaves from Africa and over a much longer period, but of course there are very few decendants of africans in arabia, as the arabs chose to castrate the males.
As a person with Irish heritage I look forward to my reparations from the Church of England and Scotland. Why isn't the church addressing reparations for the people of these islands exploited for hundreds of years?
You were not enslaved just as I, as an English man have never held slaves. You are not entitled to reparations, even if your ancestors were. I look forward to your campaigning for reparations for those held as slaves by irish immigrants to the United States who enslaved people in Louisiana.
@@DeeClarke-lg1hp oh dear someone's in need of a sense of humour, and a good therapist.
@@DeeClarke-lg1hp oh dear someone's in need of a sense of humour and a good therapist.
The point is that the church exploited people of these islands (the British Isles) & other places long before the Triangular Trade began. Slavery is just one of the many ways church and state have exploited ppl over the centuries. More to Dr Tombs point. Good day sir
And, of course, reparations from the Irish to the indigenous population of what is now called Scotland......and what about the Native Americans?
@@nickjung7394 yep, exactly - and also why just stop at slavery? Peterloo, Corn Laws, Press Gangs, all that gold taken from Britain by the Romans, vikings. Nonsense argument.
Your carrier group is a joke. An expensive joke.
Yours is literally made of carboard and painted on a carpark lol. Versus our real one I know which I prefer.
Tugendhat speaking very quickly and smoothly...very slippery on amounts and percentages of defence spending. Typical politician, and very different from the two honest scientists on Covid.
P7 6:57
Kate Andrews is a poor interviewer. Her personal opinions are usually quite evident, and as other commenters say, she argues with guests who differ. When there are two guests of opposing views, she sides with one and challenges the other. I can't remember a challenging question she asks of Renton (what a piece of work he is). Why didn't she say, it sounds like you have personally benefited from the slave trade--what are YOU doing about it besides bleating and pushing your book? Jay and Sunetra were gracious to her, but she was ignorant and rude, still stuck in maintaining the benefits of the lockdowns and vaccines.
Why they would choose a young lady with left leaning politics to interview people is beyond me. That's like choosing a rat to guard your cheese collection.
Tom for Prime Minister
Every race has been enslaved.
Congratulations to spectator TV: It is almost miraculous, the extent to which Spectator TV manages to make even espionage and the approaching, all but inevitable third World War, as dull as ditch water and and excruciatingly yawn-worthy.
I'm very happy with my annual covid Pfizer vaccine! When I finally contracted covid it was like a summer flu, and I credit the vaccine with the prevention, and saving me from far more serious symptoms.
I Never had the vaccine, my experience was not so different ti yours.
"I contracted Covid and it didn't kill me, I see this as a successful vaccination" - somebody who doesn't get the point of a vaccine.
Happy with your annual Pfizer covid vaccine.
We have found the fuckwit they talk of.
Happy for you, but don’t expect or enforce the rest of us to take drugs we don’t want. Personal choice
What nonsense
Kate ❤
This first guest - no credibility