Time to assemble the engine for our Model A Ford | Redline Update #20
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2019
- Davin is back in our shop and ready to start assembly on our Model A Ford engine. With freshly machined parts from Ron's Machine Shop (watch that update here: • Pouring Babbitt bearin... ), Davin torques down the weighted and balanced crankshaft before making quick work of the piston and rod assemblies. Pistons get dropped into the block along with lifters and camshaft to keep moving the build along. Watch and learn as Davin talks about some of the quirks that go along with assembling an engine that's almost 100 years old.
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Hagerty Love this video, but the cameraman needs to sober up and settle down.
My Dad was born in 1904. He was driving grandpa's T when he was 8 yrs old. Grandpa was 6'6" and a logger in kings Ferry Fla, near Fernandina. He was tall and rode in back seat. My Dad ran it low on oil, and a rod was knocking and on the way home took off rod cap and cut a piece off his belt for a bearing and drove home. When the spokes were loose and rattling he would drive it across a spring to tighten the spokes. When he was older he raced model T"s on the beach and outran larger more powerful cars. I would love to hear from someone who has history of the races at Fernandina Beach, cause I never had a picture of his car. He went to Church with his cousin Lacy who's sons Ronnie, Donnie, and Johnny became Southern Rockers. Most youngster's probably never heard of Skynyrd!
The antiquated technology to determine clearance and bearing assembly is astounding. I cannot imagine the amount of engines that were trashed because of insufficient knowledge or clearance during remanufacture or rebuild. This information is the stuff of dreams. Being able to hold a conversation with a 90 year old man at a car show and seeing him look at you in awe because you know about this process - it's priceless.
Never thought I needed to see a Ford model A engine rebuild, glad I did.
My dad who was a old school mechanic in the early days, I am 72 now. He would tell me stories of how things were done back then. One of his stories was from a shop he worked in that had a stand that had stand for wearing in the bearings that used another engine that would rotate the engine you were wearing in. He said that they would turn it for a while then tighten the rods little at a time tell they were seated in to where they wanted them.
He also told me a story about that once in the shop they were working on a model T . They had installed the rear end up side down . When they went to test drive it out, they drove it into the back wall of the shop instead of out the door.
I could just picture that in my mind. I love to listen to all the old stories he told about the old day's.
The process was called burnishing the Babbitt and they smoked but only with oil
Me imagino que ha de haber sido una muy bonita experiencia la que viviste con tu padre, que días tan gloriosos, si señor!!
this must be by far YT's most exquisite motoring channel. He is the mechanical version of a chef in French haute cuisine. a gourmet machine shop.
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Congratulations, you have written one of the most pretentious CZcams comments of all time.
I could not agree more. This is the Iron Chef of car shows. But, @ViceGripGarage is the Bob's Burgers of car shows, which to me, is exactly what I need after I watch all this smart-guy, matching numbers stuff. Hmmm, sparkilators 😎
Watched your vid with tears in my eyes...my dad's first car was a Ford Model A. I have 1 pic of it probably taken in the 1940's. He passed in 2008 at age 81.
Lietuva?
I never will own a Model A nor have any association with an engine that is this old. But in watching this video you taught me a lot about the history and build of these engines that I did not know. My experience with engines dates back to the 60's and no earlier. So this is an eye opener for sure. I thank you for your teaching effort. That's what you do....you teach us fascinating things. Way to go.
good you keep old tresures like model a fords still alive they are just so beautifull cars 🚗 😀
Never heard of the Time Saver method of babbit bearing clearance ? It really is a more gentle way to start a new engine .
And I thought that Hagerty knew everything
I like how organized you are. It's easier to follow when your work area is free of clutter and junk.
this workshop is cleaner than my kitchen after I prepared some snack xD
I am thoroughly enjoying this. So much great information for my hopefully Modal A purchase.
I just can't resist, if Abbott and Costello worked in a machine shop, you know every once in awhile you'd hear,heyyy Babbitttt!!!!! Lol! Oh yeeeaaah.▪☆☆☆▪
Man, this guy and his team are simply awesome.
Just watching this makes the memories come running back. I and my friends rebuilt I don't know how many 4 cyl Fords in the late 50s, JC Whitney had tons of parts on the shelf. We built 2 Model A's. The old Flat Heads were easy to work on once you understood they were like no other motors out there.
I live in the UK and have to say these redline rebuild videos with Davin are by far the best videos on CZcams, I like his explanation of each part and enjoy watching the strip down and rebuild. Fantastic keep it up 👍
It’s a fluid film bearing. When running the shaft is suspended on a pressurized layer of oil. All wear happens as the shaft is spinning up and pressurizing the oil. If you had a servo motor to turn on before starting the shaft then turn off when up to speed, you’d have a minimum of wear. I’d love a wood lathe built on that principle!!
Its crazy awesome to see how far the auto industry has come...Keep up the good work. Looking forward to seeing this project being completed and seeing what's next.
Something about watching these old engines getting put back together makes me want to start a project or something. This series is going to lead me into rebuilding an engine myself and oh the horrors I will probably commit with out watching every single one of these videos and listening to all of Davin's advice. Great video as always.
They need to sell this as a kit. Looks like fun. 🚘
🤣 you're a perfectionist and I like that. 👍
Just got the alert! Watching after a saturday bar shift with a cold beer. WIN!
Enjoy the videos I am 70 now mechanic and worked in many shops.
Unreal! I would have thought these engines would be even more simple than a small block ford when it comes to assembly which I guess it is but the initial machine work and everything that went into these things back in the day is crazy!
I never knew the old 4-cylinders were so different. Watching this with a fresh perspective now.
Oh yes. And every manufacturer had its own little quirks. the valve in head engines are much easier to work on than the old flatheads. .
@@burn1962ride or, they just never had an opportunity to be around those older cars to learn how they were different. The oldest car I have ever worked on is a 1964 Ford.
I work at the Ford Chicago Assembly Plant.
On the motor line!
It’s crazy cause you see stuff written on stuff...
Like “Earl was here 9/16/31”
Those engines were assembles FAST! Real fast! 24 hours a day 6 days a week for the Model A.
@@fixedguitar47 I have read stories in the past about the "signatures" left behind at the Ford assembly plant. Lots of history there.
Wayne Campbell - It’s the oldest continually operating Ford plant.
I know because there’s a HUGE sign that reads “Welcome to Fords oldest continually operates assembly plant”
It’s crazy cause you look up vintage pictures of guys standing next to the old cars that were built there, and you can find where it was taken and stand in the exact spot.
It’s so cool getting to work in a piece of history. You can hear the echoes of the past
Davin !!! Is there ANYTHING YOU HAVEN'T DONE ??? FREAKING GENIUS
That's pretty cool. I remember grandpa telling me when they overhauled an engine, they had to "build them so tight, you had to drag it down the road to get it started", I thought maybe he was yanking my chain. Now I know why. Pretty cool stuff
So much to learn. I didn't know how much I didn't know. Comforting to see that even you learned a thing or two. Excellent video as always, Davin! Thank You for making it and posting it!
wow those cotter pins on the rods blow my mind
Wow I will probably have forgot most of what I learned from your last two videos but for right now I learned so much I have always wanted to learn about the model A rods & main bearings thanks for making these videos and learning that only the middle main bearing is pressurized! We had a Model A growing up and I always wondered about the engine and you have given me some closure but don’t worry I will keep watching until you get the old girl running!
As your explaining the break in of the babbitt bearings it made me think of Ford's old model A plant video in black and white at the end where they run the car on what I thought was a Dyno just before they exited the building but I would venture to guess it was actually starting the engine against the babbitt if the starter can't start it.
"...and Davin's heart grew 10 times". ..how else would he have gotten that Model A to turn over! Thx Hagerty & Redline.
Great video!! So interesting to see all the differences from a more "modern" motor. Keep up the excellent work
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Wild how they did things back in the day! I salute you for trying old school method sir! 🇺🇸
That looks so cool and awesome!
I never knew 4 cylinder engines of the past are considerably different compared to modern 4 cylinders! Can't wait for the Redline Rebuild...
The soundtrack was fantastic. Thanks for another great video.
Best car channel on CZcams.
Am really enjoying watching this build!
I love it I love it so cool watching this old old engine be made new I have learned a lot love to videos keep up the good work
That was a very well explained process. If I knew zero about engines, it would have been enjoyable to watch. People who are passionate about their craft are great to watch.
Shame.every man should know how engine is working!
Always waiting for the updates with anticipation!
14.08 And as I rotate it I can feel it freeing up already (grabs shoulder in pain)... hahhaa..
Wow I'm 4 mins in and I feel thoroughly educate... top vid
You sure know what your doing. American know how!
Excellent! Always enjoy these vids.
love you videos ! really love the fast motion ones, they are extremely entertaining
This has been an interesting series; unlike the normal, vanilla build.
Woooooow.... can't wait to see it roaring
How cool, back into time.
So much fun to watch!
Great work!
Awesome job guys keep saving that vintage iron
I really enjoy all of the music. Please keep that up.
Awesome build, definitely a different era of motor building! Loving this series!
you do wonderful work on them engines you do.
What a fine engine! It was godparent to the rare "Skymotor 70 A" made in Milwaukee in the thirties but couldn`t prevail...
This guy is a damn genius. Damon love.
I have rebuilt several of the Model A's . Takes me some time because of not being as familiar with them . Back in the day when they were common a rebuilder could fix one in a hurry . Funny how we tend to forget older ways of doing things . Going to be doing a straight 8 Buick in a couple of weeks at my shop . It has babbit rod bearings but inserts on the mains . The new main bearing inserts still come with shims . You have to plastigage them .
Can't wait to hear this thing roar when its all done.
Very interesting have never seen this type rebuild before.
I love this channel.
Fascinating.
I really enjoyed this!
I enjoy this series.
Ford really built these things to last. Murica!!!
Man brother I AM so proud of you if I was a machinist I'd be just like you your cool
I was always taught to put the bushing end of the rods in warm oil mixed with zinc and let them sit for about an hour before installing the pin. Not sure if it makes a difference but I’ve been doing it for years and never had an issue
all videos are so good
Doesn't anyone make a crank that is drilled for pressurized bearings? I know NOTHING about these, but with all of the aftermarket everything today, I am shocked they haven't come up with drop in bearings and pressurized oiling of everything! Glad you are doing this build and talking us through it. This is the first time I have ever seen the guts of one of these engines. My grandfather use to tell me about having to rebuild those engines in no time at all and how they use to drain the water out of them for the winter. Back in the early 70's he was telling me how easy we have it... Hahahahahahaha... If he were just alive today to see gas engines turning 400 thousand miles.....
Engines back then went that far too sometimes, just not Ford engines. Packard had one with half a million on it in the 30's. Notice the 5/16's rings, and cast to boot, you won't see that today because cast rings suck for mileage and that thick isn't needed anymore with the tolerances of todays stuff.
Yep. Shim beaing clearance to "spec" during a rebuild/overhaul - especially using plastigage - and it's going to knock when you start it.
Oh, so glad I subscribed!
So much information O drama Well done well done , this is true entertainment with great real world Knowledge, thank you
I much prefer the calm sounding music on this video over the hard rock attitude noise on some of his other videos
Should recreate the assemble line that it was built on.
That’s how it’s done!
Mecânica clássica...é show!!🇧🇷
It's called burnishing the model T engine was said to put on the burnishing machine which is turned by an electric motor oil the bearings freely and let them smoke freely. The model A is the same way
Amazing video!
Great job 👍
Cool build
Looking good.
Good show.
you can say that new fangled 1950s tech is backwards!
Good job 👍
Dave....My Fellow Michigander !
I’m from Perry ( near Lansing)
I watch with fascination and awe as the rebuild continues as well as the learning; where does the knowledge base come from since this is not your everyday rebuild?
I think the engines were broke in on stands with electric motors at the FORD plant when they were new.
Sorry, just added that "reply" on a comment above. That's also what I read.
And it was called burnishing
Good work!! Hello from Ukraine!!
I would worry that the Babbit bearing are just too tight. In the original Ford factory the engines did not have to be spun to free them up I think. The danger is that the Babbit bearings will overheat and melt before proper clearances have been established -recalling that the oil has to have a clearance to work.
Very nice
Beautiful
I think the factory had fixtures to “break in” the bearings by turning the engines for a certain length of time.
Cooking up an engine, nice :)
It's like a big Briggs and Stratton engine except it's built much better!
top job as usual, cheeers
Very interesting. You could simply modify your Model T rotating flange / tool but machining it short (as mentioned) and then machine a hex (3/4") on the shaft end. No welding needed.
Learned about Babbitt in tech school. I was wondering if actual bearing inserts, or shells are available for this engine? Would make life much easier!
Love your work.
Engine brake in period would have been quite noticeable back then, unlike finely machined components of today.
Cool!
I run the car maintenance CZcams channel in Korea. I'm always learning such a great ideas on your channel. I hope we have a chance to be together. Thank you.
Nice