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Butterfly Tenergy 05 Hard Review
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- čas přidán 2. 12. 2018
- Heyyyyy Guys! Here's our latest full and comprehensive review of the hotly anticipated Tenergy 05 Hard rubber by Butterfly! This is the harder sponged version of the popular Butterfly Tenergy 05.
Dan is joined by Tom in the TableTennisDaily Studio where they give the rubber a full in depth analysis on how it performs!
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I'm liking this more conversational style of review. Gives Tom a chance to give his opinion as well. Perhaps the fact that they're comparing two different rubbers also lends itself well to this style of review.
I played with 05hard on FH and 05 on BH on Viscaria FL now for a month and find the combination very good. I find the 05 hard top sheet seems to grip the ball better and helps keep good control and , despite lower trajectory and higher speed, the ball tends to land on the other side. The 05hard also seems to produce more spin causing problems for the opponent. I agree however that, with 05hard you have to be more precise on the blade angle, pull on the topspin and play with confidence. Very good on serve and OK on short game.
Hi, Dan says it's very sensitive to spin, worse then 05 in the short game?
@@alexandervarna8085 Hi, Yes and no. It feels like the top sheet is the same as 05 and on slower ball (short game) the ball does not sink as much into the harder sponge and hence 05hard is little less sensitive. However on faster play the rubber is more direct and the attack seems to be more sensitive to blade angle. I am now used to it, but other players that tried my bat say so. I believe that in fast exchanges that ball that comes from 05hard is more difficult to cope with by the opponent. I believe that 05hard requires little more committed and more precise attacking stroke, but generates better quality shot. It suits me to use 05hard on my forehand where I can generate more speed. It feels that the 05 on my backhand gives me greater range of shot.
@@Paul5tall thanks
Dan,
Compare Dignics 05 and Tenergy hard 05 please
D05 has higher throw and is much slower, prob a bit spinnier but also prob a bit more spin sensitive
T05 Hard lower throw and faster and feels more direct coz of the low throw
Yes! Been waiting for this review. I'll try this rubber out. Also want to see a Yasaka Rakza 7 review. It what I use now and wonder if you could compare it to other popular rubbers you've used.
11:00 RIP Plastic Ball
Please review the new butterfly series Dignics 05
Please
Another great review as always, thanks a lot. It was great seeing you in Washington DC. Hope to see you again in the future!
Can you do a review on the Yasaka rakza series?
Rakza 7... full of control .. very forgiving rubber you can do anything with this rubber.. came from t05 then switched to rakza 7.. rakza 7 is my game.. I can do flat hits .. 3 ball attack combo ..
I use rakza 7 on bought sides and im loving it very high spin and good speed with good control
I would also really like to see a review on the rakza rubbers, especially the rakza x
Razka 7 a lot cheaper but about 10-15% less speed and spin. Easier for control though so better for lower level players (no offence meant). You get what you pay for.
Rakza 7 has been the closest thing to Tenergy I have ever used. I use T64. I feel Rakza 7 is slower but still the best replacement in my opinion.
I'd like lots of you to switch, and send me your used 05 rubbers.
playandteach ha,ha,ha... ɡood point! and ɡood request too.
So 2 years later, have you got the rubbers?
This your best review yet
Thanks Patrick! Having both of us talk adds greater insight I feel. Glad you liked the review :)
guys, to explain the contact rubber/ball with a hard rubber, the contact has a smaller print on the ball which means, spin is applied to the ball at its farthest point from the center. you can't go farther than that. that means if you lack of timing or force, you lose the grip due to lack of contact surface.
with the regular T05, the ball sinks in and enlarge the contact print. that means less acceleration(or spin) but more dwell time. which gives more arc. the ratio spin/speed is balanced. where the hard one has naturally more spin than speed so the arc is reduced in length and falls into the net. so to preserve the quality shot with it, you have to hit with a more chinese stroke to recover that speed/spin balance. that means more open bat angle and more forward motion. as well as slightly more up towards our head. it's a tad more demanding in energy since the new ball entry. but they get better almost every year. for me, Sanwei seamed 3 stars ABS are the shit. great ball. well... amazing ball. cheap as well! ridiculous quality for the buck. tough as a nail.
this is basically a tenergy for chinese or those who play chinese stuff. or maybe those who play very VERY soft blades. which are rare now on the market. most of the blades are sitting beetween medium and stiff.
2:59
*I find a lot of bat angel change are subtle, yeah its quiehhhhhhh*
Excellent review guys and nice of you to listen to feedback and use your own blades for the review.
Butterfly innerforce ALC please.
I play with this rubber on both sides in 1.9. I Love it and I do recommend it for counter loopers. It loops from backspin like it would be no spin. Buy it
On what blade do you use them?
@@bjornkorfanty2822 I’ve used it on a few but k think I was playing with Stiga Intensity Nct
I have played with this rubber for a month. I agree the rubber shines when you hit through the ball. This is great close to the table counter loops etc. Looping far from the table is slightly difficult because you have to hit through the ball for it to keep the speed. I hope dignics 05 will help that area
Please review Nittaku's Acoustic or Acoustic Carbon blade!
Hai..Dan ulasan ttg tenergy 05 hard itu bener sekali dan itu sangat bermanfaat untuk kita semua.Terima kasih Dan...🙏🏼
Would love to see a Nittaku fastarc series review.
Best sellers in Japan
Julot didn’t know that nice info 👍
I didnt verify this info but i read it on an article, makes sense.
Plz review
Fastarc g1
Butterfly announced Spring Sponge X. Once that gets released in the market, this rubber would become obsolete. Way to go, butterfly!!!
Nice video! :)
Can you make a review about Hurricane 3 Neo provincial/national?
Here is where i come before buying anything table tennis , this time is the rubbers ,i just finished watching the Dignics05 review ,so my question is , Tenergy 05 hard (fh) and Dignics05 (bh) is this a good combo ?
Can you do a review about hurricane rubbers?
He did DHS H8 Review. But I think with his techniques, he can't do a proper orange or blue sponge H3, when you see Dan playing, you can clearly see that he plays like European peoples. He will just put all balls into the net because he doesn't have enough power to use H3 at his best
I tried it in my club as my practice partner brought it. He put it on Jun Mizutani blade and that set up was crazy fast for me. The balls just went of the table . On thing i noted was if i got the stroke correct the spin was crazy on the ball, but then sadly i don't play that strong every ball. Certainly a rubber who have decent technique and play strong game and don't depend on rubber for forgiveness. As they say "With great power comes great responsibility" :)
I want to use Tenergy 05 hard on Forehand and Tenergy 05 on Backhand. It's a good combination?
I think the other way round is better
Yep, good combo cause an aggressive forward stroke on FH will pair very well with a hard rubber
@@jackjahn6191 he does
Timo - 05 hard for backhand and 05 on forehand
Dima - 05 on both forehand and backhand
Dignics 05 or?
The main question, Dan is the bat heavy with the 05 and 05 hard because majority of players like me want a well balanced bat?
Hi Ladder, great question!
On my Boll ALC it didn’t feel that different or too top heavy to me and still felt quite well balanced when compared to having Tenergy 05 on both sides. It also helps that I'm used to the weight of Tenergy 05 so I personally didn’t feel that balance was an issue but everyone will be different based on personal preference and depending on what you are used to.
Hope that helps 💪
TableTennisDaily Ok thanks for the reply Dan.:) I really thought that this in depth analysis of the rubber was really intuitive!
TableTennisDaily Also, I will buy the 05 hard to test out in my local club. btw will butterfly do a deal for 2 05 hard on a Boll ALC like they do with the Timo Boll ALC and 2 tenergy 05? If yes when will they release it?
@@TableTennisDaily what stiga blade did you try with? and was it a big difference between the stigablade and the alc with 05 hard?
Can you review DHS Hurricane III rubber
Great 5th ball on the backhand!
Great flicks!
With the "05 hard" you can't let the ball bounce off the rubber on a block like normal 05. You've got to control the block. Going to take some practice.
I have played Rakza 7, Tenergy 05 normal and the hard version. As you can see in the video, the Tenergy 05 normal is much more sensitive to incoming spin. The hard version is less sensitive to incoming spin. Rakza 7 has less spin then the Tenergy's and plays very allround. If you have a very good technique, the 05 hard is the way to go. If your backhand is less then your forehand (which is the case by a lot of players I encounter) don't get carried away and choose a safe rubber which suits your style.
Buen comentario !!!! Por fin, alguien que entiende de Tenis de Mesa.
Efectivamente, las gomas duras tienen más control. Y son las que utilizan el 99% de los Pro.
To me, it seems that T05 hard suits more to a heavy looper. Someone with a medium-medium long drive style. It is probably not going to suit a player with short drive style. I use Nittaku fastarc p1, will give a more detailed comment right on this thread once i get my hands on a T05 hard. Thanks for the review Dan and tom, as usual informative.
what is tom's blade?
Wow! The difference of the angle is really visible
Good review, I hope you can review to DHS Hurricane Long 5 . (With DHS Hurricane 3 rubber of course)
Seems to be like CRAZY FAST! Is it faster than Bryce Highspeed?? Definetly for pros, but i thought that regular T05 is for pros, so T05 hard is like for ITTF top 100 only ;)
Bryce Highspeed is still a lot faster. The Tenergy rubbers are so popular because they're also very controllable. I know the pros claim to use the rubbers we can buy in the store, but most of them simply don't. All of them get factory tuned or preselected rubbers that we can not buy in the store, because they would be uncontrollable for an average player. I think the T05 hard is just a tamed down version for the average customer.
L. Gyger you can actually buy professional rubbers without a problem. Even the professional tenergy version. I don't know why this is still not common knowledge, but I guess it's because of language barriers. There is a German guy on CZcams for example that is well informed about equipment and also professional equipment. I was really surprised when I first saw those videos, because I didn't hear that kind of information before.
Joe what german guy?
Roman Macháň there are plenty. czcams.com/video/EGBVswAhJbw/video.html that's his channel
Joe thanks a lot :)
DOES TENERGY 05 HARD HAS A BETTER RUBBER GRIP?
Dan looks like youve added some power to your forehand technique! i like it, see you soon mate
How weight rubber tenergy05 Hard cut ?
What if i put these Tenergy 05 Hard on the Viscaria FL blade?
Rakza 7 and Rakza 9 review please
Can h make a video on dignics 05 butterfly rubbers
I feel that this review is biased towards showing more fancy attacking shots. Sure, those are a big part of the modern game, provide some fast and cool action and probably attract more viewers too. Nonetheless, I find it very important to show how a rubber performs in the boring short game. You would do well spending a couple of minutes on it instead of the two seconds summary at the end. Actually, your T05 review was much more balanced in that regard - you spent quite some time on touches, serving and returns.
Great Review Tom and Dan 😁
Please review Andro Hexer Grip and Hexer Powergrip. thanks
Please review the blue storm z1 turbo
how is it different from Andro Rasanter R47?
Can you review some of the victas rubbers
Nice review!
I wish I could afford this rubber it seems so good 🏓🏓🏓
Rakza 7 please!
Definitely a bh rubber, like Tom said. +, People generally like the tacky rubber on the fh, it would 1: be alot to give up, and 2: it's good twiddlable when you get into a smash lob rally, you can add even more power with the 05 hard rubber. Pretty nice actually!
How does this rubber function with a stiga cybershape??? It would be great if there's a review on this???
so they have a tabletennis plate at the black lodge now? pretty nice
3:52 I wonder if its wrong that you dont have to "lift" while hitting it, and that its really that you have to exaggerate the movement even more. Harder rubber wont give you the same kind of freebie spin, but it will spin even more when you hit it the right way, right? I am thinking that the first impression might deceive because you bring with you technique from playing with other types of setups.
Should i get a black tenergy 05 hard or a red one? (For my forehand)
Hi dan, nice video, Keep it up
Very nice video!
did the durability of 05 hard improved compared to the regular 05???
Would this be a good rubber for me? I have tibhar aurus prime on Fh and select on bh. I have a good stroke. This could be suitable for my fh.
You should review the Yasaka ma Lin soft carbon. It’s my daily driver and is really good
Make a video on butterfly dignics 05
Review andro hexer powergrip ...
DAN: " ITS JUST YEA UM THAT A YEAH ITS JUST YEA".
EDIT:YEA HAHAHA
Y'all didn't do off the table counters with the 05 hard 😕
Please give a review of rubber stag Peter karlsson gen 2 hard max
Do reviews on any yaska products
U should use ten 05hard it's better also for begginers as it will force them to develop good technique unlike ten 05 which is trash for fh too soft not not for plastic ball and not for any LVL on fh the regular 05 must only be on bh
How is it when flipping with forehand
Can you do a review of the nittaku fast arc series?
what stigablade did you try with?
I think he tried it with hybrid wood nct, around 100€ on tabletennis11
Seems to have a lower throw angle than tenergy 05
Quite a bit lower than T05 that's for sure.
Well dont hard rubbers usually have lower throw angle than the soft ones? Hmmm
@@TableTennisDaily I guess it will feel like Andro rasanter
Chetan Adhikari It’s much much better than Rasanter. Not even close.
@@fedor6595 nope best forehand spin rubber is rasanter 47
PLEASE HAVE A REVIEW OF TIBHAR MXP 50 HARD
Direct and forward, got it, cheers dan 👍
Nice dan keep going
a review on donic bluegrip v1 and r1 would be nice :)
Compare dignics 09c against tenergy 05 hard please
Nittaku g1 at some point?
How much speed tenergy 05 hard has
i will have a division meet this August 12 2019
What do you recomend me tenergy 05 (normal) or rozena?
tenergy 05
Butterfly Tenergy 05 Hard produces more speed and spin than all other rubbers reviewed before. Using it would be the best way to gain the upper hand in competition - until the next rubber comes in for review.
DIGNICS 05 vs Tenergy 05 hard and soft
11:01 RIP the ball near tom's foot.
Nittaku redshank blade review please
Ótimo vídeo
10:50 watch the sneaky ball under the table
can u do a review on goldarc 8 pls
if tenergy 05 is now tenergy 05 hard's tenergy 05 fx, what is tenergy 05 fx?
Can you do review on Palio AK47 series
Is there any rubber with rgb? Its not for gaming if it has no rgb 😂😊
Good speed and for blocking. But I don't like the feel. For touch shots the ball doesn't stay on the surface very long because it doesn't sink into the sponge. Also not good for serving.
can anyone compare the hardness and durability of these rubbers;rakza 7, tenergy05, Tibhar mxp and tenergy hard
Tenergy lasts at lease twice as long as German rubbers. Dignics lasts even longer. When you factor in durability, Butterfly is not that expensive.
Nice video
Tom 'the frog' that "really" at 2:29 was cold..
He's not convinced with Dan's fluff that he's been asked to say by the rubber manufacturer's product marketing department...
Stiga evolution or xiom?
Sadly this rubber won't solve the tearing on the top sheet of my forehand rubber, since it seems to be the same for both rubbers. I also don't want a low trajectory rubber.
Plz review nittaku fastarc g1
Do Koki Niwa blade review pls
Please compare Dignics 05 / Tenergy hard 05 vc Victas V15 Extra
and Thanks 4 the Video
11:00 watch tom's left foot
Is there a cheap alternativ for the Tenergy 05?
rakza series
Razka is cheaper alternative but only 80% as good as Tenergy. Good for lesser players though before they move onto Tenergy