Psychedelics & Mortality: A Conversation with Roland Griffiths (Episode
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- Sam Harris speaks with Roland Griffiths about psychedelics and mortality. They discuss the current state of psychedelic research, the timeline for FDA approvals, the risks to mental health posed by psychedelics in vulnerable populations, the use of psychedelics among the well, the relationship between psychedelics and meditation, advice for “bad” trips, microdosing, Roland’s stage-4 cancer diagnosis, reflections on death, and other topics.
Roland Griffiths, Ph.D., is a Professor in the Departments of Psychiatry and Neurosciences at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, and founding Director of the Johns Hopkins Center on Psychedelic and Consciousness Research. He is author of 420 journal articles and book chapters, and has trained more than 50 postdoctoral research fellows. Roland has been a consultant to the National Institutes of Health, to numerous pharmaceutical companies in the development of new psychotropic drugs, and as a member of the Expert Advisory Panel on Drug Dependence for the World Health Organization. Roland has a long-term meditation practice and has been conducting human research with psychedelics for more than 20 years.
Website: Griffithsfund.org, Endowment Funding Letter, hopkinspsychedelic.org
December 13, 2022
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Roland is in Stage 4 cancer and yet he’s still mostly concerned about his studies helping and enriching the lives of others. What a wonderful human being…
I used to worry about being too nice… now I am so happy I get to be myself. Helping people just makes me feel good and I don’t really care what people make of it. I know who I am and like being myself.
Huge respect for Sam for having great sense of tact, empathy and not dividing that particular podcast into CZcams- half a conversation and subscribe-full episode version. Some topics are too serious and have massive weight and should be presented to broader audience. Absolutely fantastic guest, if I could only be half as brave and wise when time comes. Thank you for that discussion and being in my life.
It's really nice to listen to this interview after listening to JBPs podcast with Roland. Sam actually allowed him to talk. Thanks Sam.
Yeah, doctor Peterson is smugling Jesus everywhere. 😅
I was unaware of Roland's diagnosis and deeply saddened. I wish him a meaningful, comfortable life and sincerely hope the graceful acceptance of his diagnosis staysp with him and his family until the end.
I'm not one for fan worship, and always found it slightly difficult to understand the level of sincere sadness people experience when their favourite pop star dies. I guess I'm closer to understanding that today. As someone who is fascinated and hopeful of the potential of psychedelic therapy, I hold Roland along with Rick Doblin and Robin Carhart-Harris as my 'heroes'.
Roland, if you happen to read this, I'm sure there are countless thousands of other lay people out there who follow your work and will echo my sentiments, and no doubt millions who will yet benefit from the results of your research who may never know your name, yet would want to thank you for the part you will have played in changing those future lives.
Thank You. I hope you have more time than you imagined possible right now.
There is no God. The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no meaning, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference. Nothing you do, say or believe matters.
@@godlaughs If you didn't think that what Philipp believes matters, you wouldn't have written that comment.
Wish there was 10 hours more of this. Thank you for this podcast🧡
I love that Rolland Griffiths has authored 420 papers. Perhaps my favorite voice in the field of psychedelic studies.
Thank you for having this conversation and for sharing it with us. Roland is such a genuine human being and the way he is embracing his journey is truly inspiring.
I've done close to 200 psychedelic sessions, all in a ceremonial or therapeutic setting. They changed my life. Formerly I had been stuck with patterns of anger and anxiety. I recognized those and worked on healing/ replacing them. I have replaced them with peace and joy. I was always a happy go-lucky person in a part-time way, and that has become full-time. It was a lot of work but for me the key is to work with Ayahuasca. I've worked with all modalities and strongly prefer organic compounds over synthetics. I also find Huachuma (San Pedro) to be very beneficial and capable of deep healing. Good luck to all.
Sad to hear about Roland’s diagnosis. He will be remembered 🙏🌹
He's not dead yet lol
There is no God. The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no meaning, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference. Nothing you do, say or believe matters.
@@godlaughs you sound like a bundle of joy. Have you considered that it’s hurtful to people to say those things. Many people have parents that have passed they hope to see again. You’re not doing anything besides being a jerk by blathering this way.
@@stephengehly2319, I’m just reiterating the reality of atheism. I’m sorry if that makes you experience a cope. If you can’t handle there being no God, might I suggest becoming Catholic?
As a mother I am afraid of death.... I really want to see my grand kids...so I really don't know what I should do o totality... But thank you Roland and Sam.
This past February at the end of an unremarkable gym workout, I had a widow-maker heart attack. My heart stopped twice on the ambulance ride to the hospital and 10 more times during surgeries to save my life. At one point, I heard an ER physician say flatly, "He just flatlined again." I knew I was dying. Each time I lost consciousness it was peaceful and painless. Coming back to life was disorienting and extremely painful. I don't fear death and when it comes, I will be ready. In the meantime, I am going to live my life. I realize my experience is anecdotal. I am so happy to be alive!
@Abstract It's my pleasure to share my story with you. I have had a full life and there is only so much we can ask from one lifetime. Nevertheless, I wanted to live so I fought for my life. Please don't ask me how a person unconscious and on life support fights for his life. I don't know, but that's what I did. I am happier now than I was before my heart attack, and my bonus time is going well. Crazy, right?
*Psychedelics legit saved my life after the military.*
Same!
I've benefitted so much from psychedelics, it helps my me get through my depression, anxiety, insomnia and it helps improve my creativity and focus. I got my stuff's online and it was delivered discreetly....🍄💚💊
They really work
Which modality did you use? How many times? I work with a couple veterans on mental health issues. thanks and congrats.
@@Kormac80
3.5 grams dried. I went for a hike with friends and family while camping and detoxing from technology. After 5 years, it was like I finally came home.
A lovely and moving interview. Thanks to both of you for sharing your conversation.
Lean into demons, no matter what form they manifest. They will change.
Great conversation .
Thanks gentlemen, for sharing your ideas and stories. 👍 💗 🍄 ☺
I've benefitted so much from psychedelics, it helps my me get through my depression, anxiety, insomnia and it helps improve my creativity and focus. I got my stuff's online and it was delivered discreetly....🍄💚💊
Rest in peace Dr. Griffiths, thank you for everything ❤
Phenomenal. Roland is in a unique tier of scientific hero, thank you both for the conversation.
Nice! I can't listen now but looking forward to tonight.
I am so grateful that I stumbled across this podcast and to hear this interview with Roland Griffiths. I will continue to expose myself to more of his work.
I have been the primary caregiver of family members suffering from severe mental illness. I met many patients and their families throughout my life in psychiatric wards. . Many cases of schizophrenia and psychosis are triggered by use of psychedelic drugs.This not just anecdotal but proven by many researches and also consolidated in the DSM, While I appreciated that research is proving these drugs useful in treating other conditions. the potential danger to other patients is criminally understated in the media nowdays. Please remember that one bad trip can cause chronic psychosis on people with genetic predisposition. If you care for morals, do not forget them. They are no outkasts or B list citizens only because they are 'crazy' , they deserve society's respect and protection
Completely agree.
No link found between psychedelics and psychosis
Zoe Cormier
Nature (2015)Cite this article
Let the science speak, not hearsay. I "know" somebody who broke their back on mushrooms, numerous people who have taken one dose and "tripped" permanently for several years, a man who died from an overdose of psilocybin- of course none of this is actually true. I've also cared for the mentally ill, and known many patients and their families. The mental health system, the medicalisation of normal human emotion, horrific poorly understood drugs, and barbaric practices such as lying to patients about the "chemical imbalance" theory of depression, the debunked link between low serotonin and depression, the horrific overuse and abuse of electrive conclusive therapy, lobotomy-
these are all far greater threats to the mental and emotional well-being of the suffering and vulnerable
I literally heard a psychiatrist telling a patient to think of electricity as "Food for the brain"... disgusting, immoral behavior.
The real threat to people experiencing mental and emotional distress is, and always has been- the mental health system.
@@shanegilberthill Yes I totally agree that most psychiatrists and the mental heatlh system sucks on general (definetely here in Europe). People with metal illness often get totally fu..ked up by doctors. Especially in the past but still now days really hard to find a decent psychiatrist But if you say 'let science speak' I am sorry but the link betewwn psychosis and psychedelics is all over the DSM You either invoke science or dont. Having say that, you are free to think what you want. not really interested in arguing on the internet...
Thank you Sam Harris for opening this up for all of us to listen to in it's entirety. What a treat to hear from you both. Rolland Griffiths, you are a hero of mine, truly. I have admired your clarity of mind, your humility, your mildness, and your analytical approach to this vital exploration of the role of psychedelics in the modern age and the exploration of the nature of consciousness in the broader sense. Thank you for being open about your use of psychedelics. Your curiousness and gratitude are a beacon to the rest of us. We are in this together. And with that, you have my sincere love and appreciation.
I've benefitted so much from psychedelics, it helps my me get through my depression, anxiety, insomnia and it helps improve my creativity and focus. I got my stuff's online and it was delivered discreetly🍄💚💊
Thank you both for a fascinating conversation. Roland´s important work will not go unnoticed. I especially appreciate his reflections on finding joy and being grateful. I am also grateful for his noble efforts to make our world a better place. Cheers!
Great episode, would love to see a documentary on Roland Griffith and his pioneering work
RIP professor Griffiths. Need more like him.
Thanks for your work Sam. I highly appreciate it. I thought maybe having the video divided by subjects and their time in which they start would be highly useful. Thank you once again
RIP Dr. Griffiths… I fully believe your work has catalyzed the necessary research into these compounds that will change innumerable lives for the better. Thank you ❤️
Also, thank you Dr. Harris, for your journey into the psychedelic realm and the resources you provide for meditation. I never thought I would be seriously taking solace in the words of one of the world’s foremost atheists, yet here we are. Happy new year🎉
I tried mushrooms recently. I wouldn't recommend a large dose if you're afraid of the psychedelic effects, but microdoses seem very tame in comparison. It's so tame for me, I've seen no down sides. It seems purely medicinal my from very limited experience. I'm looking forward to cycling off of it in another week to see what changes.
First I took a 4 gram dose, and .2 grams every day since for a week now. The original dose wasn't all that psychedelic to me, but maybe I expected too much. I mostly just listened to music in a comfy seat. I use marijuana edibles often, and it seemed about as psychedelic as a strong edible high. My muscles felt very relaxed and I could feel my jaw falling open. My hearing and vision were enhanced, and visuals further enhanced what I was hearing. My peripheral vision was on high alert, but not in an anxious way. My brain was interpreting the dynamics between shadows and light differently. I seemed like I could hear the air between the speakers rather than the speakers themselves, which I guess is technically what's happening. I didn't get that effect with headphones though. The little psychedelic effect it did have was very reassuring to my previous personal philosophies. I experienced some spiritual incites that are adjacent to previous enlightenments I've had, but also unique and interesting. I had a little nausea when I moved around too quickly at the peak of the high. The typical visuals description of "melting walls" was kind of accurate, but I could also focus through it and it would go away. I plan on doing a higher dose to see if I can get to what I consider a "trip." To be honest, I had an "ego-death" experience a few months back smoking a sketchy weed cartridge. I've had some remaining effects from that too, and mushrooms kind of reaffirm it a bit.
As for the microdosing, overall, I've felt very calm this week. The afterglow of endorphins I've had from a runner's high is the closest thing I can compare these microdoses to. I'm not an anxious person, but I'm particularly anxiety free this week. It's like tension I didn't know I had is gone. My mind will usually race a lot. I'll jump from one thing to the next, hypothesizing any number of things. I feel like the mushrooms have tamped that down a bit and made me think a bit more gracefully and clearly. The microdose also seems to enhance marijuana highs. That, or the marijuana makes me feel the microdose more. I've felt more conscious of my boredom this week too. I had a couple spontaneous bike rides and hikes this week just as a result.
I can recommend you to where I get my stuff from an online store.
I get my psychedelics and microdosing stuff from an online store where I got my own his on Instagram and also on Telegram with the below handle
*Mycopete.*
I went into it head first in my wilder days. I was handed an LSD tab at a time when I would have taken nearly anything handed to me. So I took it,.it changed my life, my perception of the world, my perception of myself and nothing has been the same since in the best possible way
Great explanation/description.
What a humbling wonderful and honest conversation ❤
Death; a once in a lifetime experience.
- R. Griffiths
I've benefitted so much from psychedelics, it helps my me get through my depression, anxiety, insomnia and it helps improve my creativity and focus. I got my stuff's online and it was delivered discreetly..🍄💚💊
There is no God. The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no meaning, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference. Nothing you do, say or believe matters.
There is no God. The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no meaning, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference. Nothing you do, say or believe matters.
Wow! Thank you Megan, you are such a fantastic host, interviewer
great interview, thank you from Jenny
Profoundly moving and insightful podcast.
double release week! Christmas season is HERE, thanks Sam.
Please have John Vervake on the podcast! His lecture series on the meaning crisis is incredible and I think would generate interesting discussion.
this is why I support you Sam & why I will continue to support you; thank you… 🧡
and thank you Roland, for all the good work you have done, and are doing to help our human family be better… ❤️
/ron
Thank you.
Wonderful talk, thank you so much 🙏
I've benefitted so much from psychedelics, it helps my me get through my depression, anxiety, insomnia and it helps improve my creativity and focus. I got my stuff's online and it was delivered discreetly.🍄💚💊
There is no God. The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no meaning, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference. Nothing you do, say or believe matters.
Merry Christmas and happy new year Sam Harris
I'm very curious about the application of psilocybin for treatment of stroke and traumatic brain injury. If you're able, I would love to hear an episode on this topic.
Good question.
Heartwarming 🙏
Rowland gets it. What a beautiful person, and extraordinary work
Could anyone perhaps clarify what roland meant at 1h 27m where he speaks about his relation to what death actually is. Did he mean that he puts it at almost 0% chance that death is a "nothing" a "computer down" or did he mean that he thinks that it is very likely? it first seemd that he was saying that some people put a 95% probability that it death is the absolut end and "computer down", but that he said that he believed it to be highly unlikley meaning he would put it at about 0%, but then he says " coming from a reductinstic sceptical etc tradition that would put it at about 0%. What did he mean? thank you, infinite bliss
I wish I could try some tiny micro dose of something as I’ve had depression since age 14 and am now 57. I tried to believe all the people who said ‘this will pass’. I do these days have a very strong desire to punch such people!
Do it!!
I can help you.
🍄
Inspirational.
Beautiful podcast, thank you.
There was a guy from my high school, extremely well-liked and infinitely charismatic and charming, who after experiencing psychedelics for the first time, instantly changed his life for the worse. I had friends who were at the party when it happened. They say he kept speaking to seemingly no one, and was asking where “those voices” were coming from. He never recovered.
I chatted with a friend recently who said that this man is now extremely schizophrenic, homeless, and a shell of his former, outstanding self. There is nothing more heartbreaking.
Makes me scared to ever try it again. It’s a roll of the dice every time.
Sounds like a heart breaking story, but maybe it shouldn’t discourage you from trying psychedelics because perhaps there wasn’t a causal link between his introduction to psychedelics and his supposed change of character. Take what I say with a grain of salt though, I’m no expert, haha.
A much welcomed contribution to the vibrant discussion. For some people the dosage can send them on a one way ride to schizophrenia. I think some statistical analysis could really help us to understand the reward value versus health risk trade off. Is addiction a common side affect of the two/three drugs mentioned in the podcast?
What was the psychedelic? How do you know that it wasn't tainted with other drugs, or even the real thing? Were there any other drugs in his body, including alcohol? And finally, psychedelics are not recreational drugs, even though some people think so. They best function as profoundly healing substances.
Hi everyone, meditations, is some types of updates our minds, which means, we can practice to make our minds clear from the things which we doesn’t need to carry on in ourselves, and that doesn’t have to be with the old ways of meditation as we know! another words, we can do meditation anywhere even when we are driving, or we’re sitting in a train or we’re walking 🚶♀️ all we need to do is to focusing our conscious minds on it , in my experience’s, at some environments like steam room & Sunna, where your body is in the pressure, by the heat from outside and our minds can be more active and more conscious, and more creative !
Really interesting and reenforcing as a layman long term practicer of psychedelics and meditation (I’m 59 and have been practicing meditation for over 30 years). The integration of both to be a much more widespread option, including ceremonially as part of a revival of festivals / rights of passage in a new form is the only way I see to practically bring us to a common understanding and spread ‘waking up’ throughout humanity. I would suggest that UFOs / UAPs are examples of cultures that did this and progressed to higher levels. Experimentation with consciousness is I believe a birth right opportunity we should all have an avenue to take if we so choose in this existence and not be persecuted for it.
It's so beautiful how people keeps talking so many good things about psychedelics. Everyone focused on how magical shrooms can change their lives..I haven't tried them yet but there are definitely on my list of “must do”;) just looking for a reliable source.
@Jay Meyer
The scientific method is incredible and can shed a lot of light on the various material aspect of these medicines. But if you really want to know what's going on you have to include other traditional and systems to inform your understanding. Because science has not even began to create the intellectual tools and idea system which can adequately explain these wonderful beings and the way they help, guide and heal us!!
One of the most peaceful experience I've ever had..I really need to get my hands on some DMT
@@KenvyNguyen
I really think it's not advisable to start your first trip with DMT,it might scare you off
Anytime I trip I would always think I've urinated on myself.. it's a wonderful experience for me
Psilocybin has been a game changer in my life! I prefer micro dosing a few times a week now that I got the dose just right! Seasonal depression is a thing and shrooms can most definitely help..
Blessings to both and to you all.
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250k towards psychedelic research? Wow!
Great to hear you bring up Tom Clark's essay, "Death, Nothingness and Subjectivity" again! People need to look into Generic Subjective Continuity more. Too many atheists, and naturalists promote the idea of "nothingness" or "peaceful oblivion" after death. It'd be great if you did an episode with Tom Clark to do a deep dive into this.
Overall an enthralling conversation between you and Roland. Thank you.
Hey, I know you. What’s the timestamp at which they talk about it? I’ve spent a bit of additional time in looking into it
@@acardinalconsideration824 1:30:55
But I recommend reading Clark's essay. And give Sam's "The Paradox Of Death" a listen to as well. You can find the crux of that episode on here if you search "Generic Subjective Continuity".
Firstly what a beautiful, soothing voice you have Roland, perhaps you should record some meditations that others can listen to. Secondly it should not pass us by the timing of Roland’s diagnosis and what the result of that is regarding his insights personally and how he might financially further the cause. This does not appear to me to be random but quite directed and with purpose. In some way Roland, you can consider yourself chosen, you have been heard, your work regarded highly and your soul cherished.
To make progress on the question of what awareness and consciousness is, ask "What is awareness/thought physically made of ?" The answer to that is the same as the solution of "What is an oscillating rotating photon physically made of ?" There is a solution, and an epistemological path to it. But be careful in assuming that proving 'asymptotic' answers to the deepest questions will enlighten or transform the behavior of humanity. The is-ought gap has no bridge for many, such as: life a cosmological miracle not equal to caring how they value or treat others. Value every day if possible; no one gets out of this life aware.
Excelent Sam Harris
I like the drug podcasts. I tried Ayahuasca once, unfortunately I thought I was going to die so not sure I got much out of it except some strange vibrating sensations. Maybe I'll try again one day, maybe :)
I have done dmt a number of times. It doesn't matter about the dose as much as letting go. You have to completely let go and allow your mind to unfold and let the experience flower. It is extremely hard and it can be scary.
Hitch had a book on the subject of this.
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I don't believe in "Bad Trips".
There may be difficult experiences.
....but I believe in the spiritual necessity of it all.
Thats the gateway to schizophrenia
@@kiarashnox9861
There is a susceptible subset of the population. However, I don't believe that they're meant for everybody.
Psychedelics saved my life.
Learned about this man through the app: Waking up ;)
This life is like a dream and death is waking up and going on vacation, don't lose consciousness, memory and feelings, it's much more beautiful without a body. Life after death is much more real and beautiful than this life. I know that after clinical death.
How amazing. What a time where a person can put something on record in a lasting format. God bless you Roland. See you on the other side. Thanks for doing this Sam. I needed this discussion and I think the world does too. I disagree that institutions should have a controlimg stake in an individual’s consciousness. There are risks with psychedelics as there are with driving a car or crossing a road or swimming in the ocean. If you can’t swim, don’t jump in the deep end. I know scores of people who have done psychedelics. I know one who has schizophrenia and he had an uncle who had it. Crossing this line should not be taken likely but given only one life, I can’t personally justify avoiding any experience that might more precisely explain to me what this reality is. Everyone is different and everyone is connected. Every person must choose their own path and should be free to do that absent institutional permission or supervision. Sorry for the rant. Found this episode especially powerful. Thanks again, Sam and Roland. You guys made my night better. ❤
But I should also say that I think Roland articulates well that anyone who is interested in what psychedelics can bring to the exploration of consciousness should be equally if not more interested in what a meditation practice can bring to that exploration.
There is no God. The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no meaning, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference. Nothing you do, say or believe matters.
There is no God. The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no meaning, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference. Nothing you do, say or believe matters.
@@edhocken3512 Absolutely. Consistent meditation is often a far safer bet if contentment and gradual introspection is what you’re after.
It takes time though. It can be very tempting for some people to want to immediately jump into the deep end and hope that they don’t drown. I’m terrified of drowning so I’ve steered clear of psychedelics thus far. But my brain should be fully developed by now so I might jump in soon and try to tread the best I can
Roland has single-handedly brought the legitimacy of the use of psychedelics back into the mainstream after this promising research was set back 50 years by the Nixon administration. This man is a National treasure. He is setting up a foundation to make sure his research continues after he is gone. Please contribute. He's getting close to his monetary goal. Help make it happen.
👋 Ohhhh, our drug addictions... affecting us ALL... even the rich, academically well trained/spoken...
Should have started the show with In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida😄
Ikr! One of my stoned'r memories, at a Iron Butterfly concert.
@@danmcqueen5295 Cool!. I was only like 13 in 71? when I first heard them at a friend's house. blacklight posters too.
@@fmradio42 It was 73 or 74, not sure. In Medford Oregon. I was 16 or 17.
If you aren’t willing to try psychedelics, then in my opinion, you aren’t a serious seeker of truth
🙏🏻
@Kelvin Smith Thanks, but I didn't request this information.
We do not have memory of the billions of years that existed in the universe before we were born, and it didn't bother us in the slightest.
So we shouldn't fear death.
Why don't I meditate? Bc the insights gained are too small for the time invested. Mr. Griffiths take on death and dying aren't any different than can be deduced by the non-meditative mind. A non-meditative mind can still be mindful.
That's like never being in the water and concluding that you probably know how to swim from second hand accounts.
@@MrCmon113 If you have a mind, you can't be out of the water.
you should definitely meditate. It's free and doesn't have side effects unlike psychedelics.
I'm so sorry to hear that roland has a cancer. I hope he could search dr eric berg protocol to cure advance stages of cancer on his YT channel. There are alot of researches about prolonged fasting and killing the cancer cells. Get well soon roland.
Roland keeps using terms like, "alcohol abuse disorder" and "major depressive disorder". These are not disorders of the people. Alcohol addiction (for example) is neither a choice nor a disease. It is an attempt to solve a problem. People who are suffering become alcoholics. People who are lacking something they need attempt to find it through different addictive behaviors that give them temporary relief in the short term. When you understand the context that cause people's addictions, you stop looking at it like its some genetic abnormality, or a disease, or a choice. If you reject this because you were able to fight off your own feelings of depression and are judging others for not being able to do the same thing, then you don't have the slightest clue what it is like to be profoundly depressed to a state where choice no longer exists.
Psychedelics are very useful because they can reset your brain and help you unlearn psychological wounds that you have sustained in your life that you've been carrying with you. Psychedelics can help you see through a completely fresh new lens and show you that it is in fact possible to heal from your traumas.
... Definitely, psychedelics are safe enough to be fully legal. All we need is a good sense of proportion, and adults learning how to treat other adults like grown-ups, and not needlessly throw each other in jail.
Sometimes I welcome running into a paywall...
What about heat therapy, the monk's that walk in the Alps with only a toga. This is a self healing process... Including the possibility of physical maladies being healed?
You ever try dmt bro?
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@@cyrilio I'll pass, thanks
Pathetic don't want to pay for a blue tick 🤣
@@cyriliohell nah 😂
Sam N.P.D. Harris
The only screening you need for alcohol is a license that says your 21… so to say you need anything more than that for psychedelics is ridiculous because I guarantee you alcohol will make more schizos and deaths than any psychedelic. I don’t like when guys like this are so insistent on the negative side affects when they are so minimal. They will be the reason it takes even longer for people to freely experience higher levels of consciousness.
He’s just being circumspect given where he sees it going and the potential. It’s always the religious & nutbars that will be the greater obstacles.
Psychedelics showed me how my brain converts formless energy into reality.
I'd like to know about that!
God is dead, but don’t despair - there is new hope for the human soul. Psychoactive drugs. 🤦♂️
You just played sympathy for FTX, lets not play more sympathy games for money anymore Sam
I've benefitted so much from psychedelics, it helps my me get through my depression, anxiety, insomnia and it helps improve my creativity and focus. I got my stuff's online and it was delivered discreetly.🍄💚💊
I don' understand "secular spiritualism". There is religious, philosophical, scientific and spiritual views. Maybe there are overlaps but in general there is no religious spiritualism.
The Stargate's Ori say that we do not require blind faith but believe what you see.... This is the only "religion of presupposing "god" yet it says only believe they are gods if you see them act like one....
Religion and spiritual both are broad categories that have similiar roots. Clear cut distinctions aren't easy to come by when honestly appraising them.
The etomoligy of spirit is from the Latin spiritus, which can mean soul, ghost, courage, vigor, or breath. So a lot of variety in meaning right from the start.
Perhaps a simple definition of Secular Spiritualism could be - Spiritualism without the design/baggage of a supernatural reality.
Of course, many religious types will claim thats impossible since their dogmas contradict its existence. However , as it goes theres always a ton of opinions on these matters.
@@bellezavudd I call religion as corrupted spirituality..... David Lynch explains it perfectly with the donuts. You can not tell how sweet it is to ppl who never tried. Once you start to describe "spiritual" experiences you corrupt it with words.
My point is that it is time to take back this word from religions... their R "copyright" is a blah.... Same for marriage, ethics n stuff :D
@@hokiturmix
It looks like coining the concept "secular spiritualism" is an attempt to do that.
The word Spiritualism itself may have been an earlier attempt.
But words and concepts have a habit of changing depending on whos talking.
Inevitably it seems a personal practice for each individual without pushing useless dogmas onto others.
@@bellezavudd The problem with the so called "atheist movement" that you have to push back harder to counter act the pressure.... Now the religions pushing back harder with "our" beloved Trump. I'm from Hungary so I have Viktor Orban as Trump.
We must let out "secular" otherwise religion will push back harder on it. The hungarian national TV is very much like FOX. Hungarian atheist group called MATT raised 7 thousand dollars to make "commercial" for the recent National Census. To be able to say "atheist" in the Census. HUN TV called it war on Christianism! Direct using words like christianism or religionism... since they are political on a highest degree....
BTW Hungarian prime minister Orban has every right to call Hungary a Christian Nation... We do not have such Constitution like USA do. We have "alaptörvény" since 2012. FIDESZ KDNP with the lead of Orban erased our Constitution at 2011 Xmas eve on a meeting without any body present from the opposition parties. They celebrated their Jesus in such a way!
Energy is neither created nor destroyed. We are all elemental confluences; be it sentient, or not.
Haven't yet listened, but...without a disclaimer of the dangers of developing HPPD (Hallucinogen Persisting Perception Disorder) from taking psychedelics, this will be a very dangerous podcast.
edit: Just finished and no mention of it.
I’ll have to look into that. I’ve been thinking about experimenting with psychedelics in lower doses and I’ve been on the fence for quite awhile now.
The human mind is a very fragile thing. These substances possess great potential for healing, but they also possess great potential for long-standing psychological suffering that is beyond comprehension. Some doors of the mind are absolutely best left unopened. These substances are misused far too often and I’m completely with you that all of the potential risks should be made as clear as possible prior to use.
@@acardinalconsideration824 Take one look at the suffering expressed in the HPPD subreddit - that should solidify your choice. Agree with the rest of your insightful comment.
"A very dangerous podcast"
Ok, put the children
to bed first, then put on your seatbelt and helmet.
@@bellezavudd HPPD is no joke. People end their lives over it. He should mention the condition before talking about psychedelics. It *is* dangerous.
@@TheBuzzati
I agree, there's potential danger with using psychedelics.
But listening to 2 men talk about them sure
isn't one of them.
Psychedelics have been avaliable in America at least since the 60s, and over the decades much more prominent people have spoken about them, and often with much less knowledge.
Why single out this talk to label dangerous ?
It's like you read some scary stories and had an anxiety attack.
it's slowly becoming less illegal to access exotic states of consciousness. surely this can only be good?
Fraud
Freud?
Sam has lost all authority to speak about morality
he isn't the the only contributor to this conversation, perhaps listen for the views of Roland Griffith ?
Being human is authority enough...
According to you, perhaps.
Sam's audience will have trouble growing without Twitter to help promote it. Notice his dwindling view counts. The most interactions he's had have been during controversy where people were lining up to watch the dumpster fire. Now that that's settling, no one cares anymore. Sad!
@@austinnicholl8891 Trump hasn't been president for almost 2 years. You brought him up not me so I think maybe you need to move on? Or maybe you're right and everyone who criticizes Sam is a "Trumper" 🥴👍
@@austinnicholl8891
I take it thats sarcasm ?
@@austinnicholl8891
Ok.
So are you going to share a few of these logical well reasoned defenses ?
What controversy?
@@CHINESE_PRIDE 🤡
Stop promoting drug use and intoxication. Some may not be ready or suited for it.
Tell me you're an idiot without telling me you're an idiot 101
Did you even bother to listen to their conversation ?
They clearly spend time addressing the risks.
Carl Jung would describe your post as projection.
Yeah prescriptions are so much better
Meanwhile you get ads on TV promoting "sugar free" alcohol that are under 30 seconds long with a much higher reach in terms of views and way less information than this 1+ hour long meaningful conversation... but hey think about how many lives will be saved now that people can have sugar free beer! 👀
I wish u narrated books
he does, his own books.
Say hello to Terrence, Albert, and Sasha for us, Roland 🫡
Lol Sam's viewership has collapsed, only 14,000 views for this video 🤣
Because views = truth , right?