Thanos vs Darkseid | Marvel Cinematic Universe vs Zack Snyder's Justice League
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#Thanos #Darkseid #TheSnyderCut #ThanosvsDarkseid
We’ve finally arrived! Zack Snyder’s Justice League has premiered on HBO max and it’s time to argue who would win between the two genocidal maniacs from Marvel and DC. In this video, I will be detailing the strength, speed, and durability of each character and doing my best to determine who would win in a fight if these two goliaths ever battled. While this should be really obvious, it’s always good to remind everyone that we’re talking about the MOVIE versions of these characters, not the comic book versions. So, this means material from the Marvel Cinematic Universe and Zack Snyder’s Live Action DC Universe. For DC, I will only be considering feats from Man of Steel, Batman v Superman, Wonder Woman, and Zack Snyder’s Justice League. Additionally, I will not be considering the respective armies that these characters command - this is a Mano e Mano, 1v1, no holds barred steel cage money match for the comic book movie world title. - Zábava
AND STILL UNDISPUTED COMIC BOOK MOVIE CHAMPION
Me 😈
You forgot Thanos's most powerful ability: he can scratch it.
But thanos could stop time
If Superman had to fly at faster than light to escape the singularity, then how did the rest of the world escape being sucked into a singularity that Superman had to fly at faster than light to escape?
@@cjperry2731 You missed the part where he said the singularity only sucks in what has been doused in Phantom Zone energy.
The fact that SteppenWolf was stronger than every league member except for Superman but scared of Darkseid shows how strong he is😂😂
Ps the avengers would stomp the justice league
@@dfeliz83 No
@@malakaihernandez2235 yes
@@dfeliz83 Superman alone will smash them all
Yep and wonder woman kick doomsday ass easily
They have one thing in common that they both got hurt by an axe 🤣🤣🤣
bruhhhh🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣 Under-rated comment
Both by gods who couldn't aim for the head.
AXE-cellent comment
I like how Darkseid's omega beam spelled "EnD" in the Snyder cut
Yes , awesome
I actually saw it spell “Ez” lol
@@johnmercuryfrom2009 True, gamer moment.
@@afez2752 haha
Ez game. Darkseid cultured asf.
There's one similarity between Thanos and Darkseid: baldness.
Baldness is the only constant in the universe when it comes to badass characters
Darkseid wears a helmet orientated like male pattern baldness while Thanos rocks the shaved look.
Thanos: Darkseid, face it ur hairs not coming back. You don't need the helmet just shave the rest.
Darkseid: no no no, fug you, I'm keeping the helmet on! 😭
Baldness adds to their power look at saitama
@@prime2327 if Superman shaved his head he'd be able to absorb more solar radiation ☝️🤓
@@realUlfricStormcloak 🤨 dam u right
I don't think we seen enough of darkseid especially cause the one we mostly saw was the one from like 5000 years ago
5000 years ago was when Diana was born, when the War of the Gods happened and Ares killed all gods. That fight against Darkseid happened 10.000 years ago.
But it sounded like Diana told Bruce Wayne “months ago, far away” talking about the battle
@@tmac731 she says "They came here once before, long ago."
Yeah some people are saying his first time coming to earth he hadnt yet aquired his omega affect. Reason being is because everyone knows Darkseid loves using them and spamming them and talking about them. Not once did he use them and this was before he ascended to the throne (quoted by steppen wolf). So that being said we see cyborgs future where we immediately see him use his omega beams. That means during that time leap he must have aquired the omega affect at some point during his conquests around the universe. Maybe thats how he came to power and ascended the throne in the end? Who knows, but its really hard to compare an underdeveloped character with feats from thousands of years before his current present self. If anyone knows darkseid in the comics is beyond cosmic level. He is like a 5th dimensional character that uses essentially avatars of himself in our dimension. He has matter manipulation, magic, intelectual genius, etc. This is all in the comics. Darkseid hasn’t yet been developed in these movies, so we dont really know how much of his comic counterparts abilities transfer over to the movies. I think this isnt a really good idea to compare a well developed movie character with a newly introduced movie character whose only feats come from when he was very young before his prime. Darkseids “ruler of apocalypse” version gets less screen time than lois lane in this movie.
@@Daniel-lx3nh Well, in the comics, Uxas more or less BECOMES Darkseid with the Omega effect (and also consuming many of the Old Gods). Another difference not touched on in the DCEU yet gets into Darkseid's true, multi-dimensional form - Darkseid is beyond what any one three-dimensional universe can contain in his full manifestation in the comics.
Darkseid simply wipes the floor with Thanos even with the Infinity Gauntlet if both bring their full might to bear, unless DCEU Darkseid is more conventional a foe. But it's hard to guess yet where DCEU is going, as WB doesn't even seem to have a handle on that.
Imagine if darkseid used the anti life equation to control thanos and they fight alongside each other to dominate other planets that would be insane
Or they just do that in general.
Thanos has strongest will power , maybe he can overcome the anti life equation just like Green lantern and Superman did with their will
@@limitbreaker5560 strongest will power wouldn’t help. Superman had a barrier in his head from being mind control and Darkseid did it with the anti life equation.
@@limitbreaker5560 Mantis manage to control thanos with a few restrictions where he couldn't move. The equation is multiverse level, where mantis is only like, human level-being?
@@zabi1185 so making him unconscious is like taking away his free will? Oh great now I have to study more about these .
Making someone unconscious with chloroform is like taking their free will .
The same human level mantis was able to held back ego who is a celestial
The thing I'm surprised you didn't use is how Darkseid, simply applying a little pressure on to Steppenwolf's head, manages to snap the other horn off. Superman's heat vision was what basically sawed the other horn off. With minimal effort, Darkseid can break the bones of a being like Steppenwolf.
I don’t even remember his other horn breaking off! That’s clever writing actually. Shows how he has equally no respect in this world or in theirs.
@@tamapajamas he respects the ones who are worthy, and are good in conquering worlds
@@thesimpledude186 well, he was pretty good till that damn Superman woke up 😡
@@tamapajamas darkseid never respected steppenwolf, he betrayed uxas
@@thesimpledude186 true
I’m a marvel fan but realistically, DC extended universe is beyond marvel power scaling
Idk because marvel just has everything connected in way people dont even notice but I think there equal
@@jvar5539 also because in DC most characters aren't thought out and it's like Superman is the only strong one. In Marvel everyone is weak of one another.
Exactly I really wish dc did what marvel did and go into phases and make it cool
Dceu is a bag of stupid writing even this guy in the video isn't smart enough to see it. By his own video batman would be above lightspeed so all of his calculations are shit.
Not exactly, I mean, MCU Thor was proven to be stronger than DCEU Wonder Woman going by feats. Although I will admit that Thor would have the hardest battle with Superman. Marvel has heavy hitters too lol.
Scene of Darkseid sitting like the thinker statue was badass! He sure was plotting something
taken directly by thanos in gotg
No thanos just sat and watched while talking to romen
@@shahmeerahmed6287 This is ridiculous. In every animated where Darkseid is he's seated on his throne. Every big ass enemy that has an army we'll have a throne. And now because Snyder shows that, it's copied of guardian of the Galaxy? That's BS.
@@Dimmary he always stands on a rock that flies him places. I really hated this version of Darkside. He looks very weak like even doomsday can beat him.
He was plotting Conan 3 . Same pose on the throne
now everytime i see Steppenwolf head get crushed i shed a tear. damn what a way to add insult to injury, got his ass beat badly by every member, then decapitated, only to be stepped on and crushed. now thats just savage. Press F to pay respects to Steppenwolf
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Thanos: "I am inevitable."
Darkseid: "No, you are today's breakfast."
Sucks thanos?
What about the eternals? Could one of them stand alone against darkseid?
@@tamapajamas The eternals in the MCU are featless.
@@user-re3nr9fd6f I dont know anything about the eternals I was just asking. So… they cant lose ever?
@@tamapajamas they are not as powerful as they seem
Don’t forget that Uxas was able to shrug off two arrows from Artemis, which we saw a single one to be capable of obliterating an entire battleship.
He tanked a lightning blast from Zeus. The same lightning blast that separated the motherboxes. Remember. The boxes can't be separated by energy.
@@diegoclark7697 That’s dumb lol.
“He tanked”.
He blocked it with his weapon.
“Same lightning blast that separated the mother boxes”.
You have no idea much power Zeus put into those blast. He could’ve put 20% of his power into the blast that he was going to hit Darkseid with and 100% of his power into the lightning blast that DELINKED the mother boxes. If you’re going to say Zeus separating the mother boxes is a multi-continental feat you’d be wrong because they weren’t fully synchronized.
@@jayjayyayyay4535 this is ridiculous. Like a spear has enough surface area to block lightning. 🤦♂️🤦♂️. And why tf would Zeus use less of his power on the guy who's a threat to the multiverse?
@@jayjayyayyay4535
So your telling me... Zues wouldn't wanna kill the person who wants to enslave all life in existence?
@@l0sts0ul89 Once again he has no idea who he is.
Most of these people in the comments underestimate how powerful Darkseid is
And also how powerful version of thanos are too both have crazy feats
why did he get his ass beat so easily in the beginning then
@@sonspimsfan who thanos ? Or darkseid
@@thanus2607 darkseid
@@sonspimsfan 1 obviously bad writing and they didn’t give him a build up in the DCEU verse as thanos and 2 if im not wrong uxas was a younger version of darkseid and wasn’t crazy powerful like his older self when he killed his brother he became a new god and thus the character of darkseid we know in the comic but overall the way he was written in the movies was kinda ass tbh especially compared to thanos
I actually liked steppenwolf in the Snyder cut. I felt a bit bad for him when he got utterly destroyed by Superman in the end.
Yeah they overpowered superman a bit too much
@@usman_khan_xiix5845 especially when the team lost to Superman (when he was revived) only a bit harder than compared to Steppenwolf. By this, Superman should only be a small amount more powerful than Steppenwolf; opposite to what we actually saw
@@usman_khan_xiix5845 They need to,since they showed a new timeline where he was evil so it was a way to show how brutal he can be
@@jaredevans8263 nah, supes is just that op. when he tries hes literally unstoppable
@@jaredevans8263 when Superman was revived, his abilities were boosted by the mother box flash charged to make him come back, once he lost this effect he went to get a better suit to fight steppenwolf, that was the whole reason he used the black suit
Darkside can literally destroy an entire universe if his real self just stumbled into that universe, darkside>thanos
then why YEAR 20XX THANOS which easily took punches from worthy silver surfer and he essentially ruled the universe while Darkside was never been able to that but we're talking about normal Thanos and normal Darkside which I think Thanos wins because Darkside hasn't done anything too impressive
@“Just Better” if we are talking about comics version then yes Darkside wins but in cinematic I don't think so yet
*Cough* *Cough*
You mean the entire Hyperverse
@“Just Better” yeah I'm talking about the comics, lol
Not just a universe the multiverse
Everyone in the multiverse is in danger when darkseid starts fighting with his hands behind his back
Imagine a storyline where Darksaid and Thanos are conquering planets as two opposing forces who encounter each other multiple times before one last ultimate battle.
Im sure theres a comic about exactly this
I'll watch it
Hmm
That would be so good
I’d watch that
Darksied literally can fight with his hands behind his back
that gives him 100x more power 😂
One headbutt from him and everyone dies
Lol
For real😂
Thes dc fans are pathetic
Darkseid would steal the Infinity Gauntlet himself like how he tried to steal a lantern ring. That dude will do anything to get the Anti Life Equation.
*”Anti Life Is Found DeSaad, AND WE WILL STOP AT NOTHING TO POSSESS IT. Ready The Armada. We Will Use The Old Ways.”*
@impishDCfan85 85 yeah, in the comics he said that the infinity stones are useless.
Thanos punches Darkseid into a coma like he did to she hulk, end rolls.
@@eivor3975 other way around kid, thanos gets erased
@@Zoxxies Thanos is banned from the realm of death.
11:21 Darkseid is the absolute *King Daddy* of the universe
not just that he is the king daddy of the moltivers
He is the powerful than the mad titan.dark sied killed many gods , so you can't imagine a half deviant and eternal facing I a god like dark sied
@@dracoff2671 ok im a little confused what you said but i do agree with you dark side would easly win because darkside can just go for the head or cut off thanoses arm off and kill him because without the gontlet he is pritty much usless if he gone against darkside
@@jacknite625 Darkseid*
@@jacknite625 even if he snapped with the gauntlet it would not affect Darkseid anymore only the power of
Power, space and time would be at least make Thanos match.
Yes i know Reality stone would not work too.
I can’t be the only one thinking if the studios collaborated and made a movie where they fought each other that the movie would make billions of dollars
most of these blockbuster super films make billions of dollars as is. DC and Marvel are competitors so wont ever collaborate. Just like how often have you seen Apple work with MIcrosoft....in not only the last few years, but in the last few decades? It just wont happen
@@Elcherino123 lmao, flashback to dc and marvel crossover
@@A_itsar are you referring to the comic crossover that no one gave two shits over after initial release?
@@boredom2842 yes
@@Elcherino123 Answer me this one simple question my friend.
Will the Apple car have Windows?
Darkside is literally the embodiment of darkness even if the avatar that he’s using to Chanel it dies he can easily replace it
Plus, the infinity stones dont work outside its own universe
@@whirlybird268 well they did in end game
@@idk_i_justworkhere same universe just a different timeline of it so it still works
Dark side can’t actually be killed. True form Darkseid is truly immortal and never actually gets involved in the conflicts himself. He literally exists in every universe and controls all of them from outside reality.
How easily?
You are correct. Darkseid takes Thanos behind the woodshed every time.
The portrait of darseid on the wall when wonder woman realize..,🔥🔥🔥👌
Darkseid tanked two arrows fired by Artemis too, right in the chest, before taking Zeus lightning and Ares' axe. In the previous scene, Artemis destroyed a ship with a single arrow. Damn impressive. Also, Superman and Cyborg needed the energy boost from Flash running at lightspeed to undo the Unity, and Cyborg was hacking it to supposedly make things easier. Zeus did it all by himself. I think it would be even worse for Thanos, to be honest.
Well he needed power more than light speed he said it himself
@@nathanmontgomery1516 I may be wrong, but I think Flash needed to go "way faster than light" to turn back time when the Unity was completed and Earth exploded. But to give Cyborg the energy boost he was running in circles, at lightspeed, waiting for the right timing. Which didn't happen, since he somehow got shot while running at lightspeed by a parademon... Talk about a lucky shot. But anyway, I could be wrong.
Well but rememember how many time the unity need to destroy a planet something that only the power stone can do in few seconds we also know that thanos can react to darkside omega beam because he reacts to many light speed atacks for example the thunder of thor the laser of capitan Marvel i think thanos have the andvantanges because antilife ecuation is useless againts him because mind stone protect the user from any power about mind
@@Luks2820 I thought you were only saying flash only went light speed when he faster than that my bad
@@andresledesma8628 The thing is: Omega beams track their intended target. It isn't Kryptonian heat vision, or any other straightforward energy blast. It tracks its targets to death. Thanos might be able to dodge the beams a few times, but eventually he'll get hit and overwhelmed by them.
Darkseid is my most favorite comic book ultimate super villain of all time.
It’s amazing how far we’ve come from simple childish comic books to scientific observations using complex physics.
The fact that we’re living in a time where both Darkseid and Thanos has made their live action Debuts , is just insane . Imagine if we got a Dc Marvel crossover to fight them 💥💰💰💰💰 Box Office Destruction
I want Thanos to thrash Darseid and show his real Power like in Comics .
@@Indianchad22 plz watch screw attacks video of Darkseid vs thanos . It wouldn’t matter if it was thanos from the comics . If True Darkseid appears it would destroy all of reality and thanos needs the gauntlet to be a god while Darkseid already is a god 🤷🏾♂️ .
@@sadekie3609 hes more than a God,hes a fourth world entity and is the entitiy of evil in the dc comics
@@joelvalarchervercide4896 I know and his omega beams are said to be Annihilation itself.
@@Indianchad22 Thanos is a baby, he would just be killed by his beams
Reminder that just because one character is more powerful, it does not mean that the less powerful character is worse.
Edit: I think my comment is being misconstrued. I'm also not saying that the weaker character is better. The DCEU needs Darkseid because someone needs to be able to go toe to toe with Superman without kryptonite. It would be unrealistic to have anything else. MCU doesn't have that because it would not be a realistic power-jump for the heroes, and would seem like writer cop-out.
My point is that no matter what power scaling level a character/series is at, you can find enjoyment in them.
But also part of that enjoyment is in analyzing feats and predicting "what if" battles between disparate characters.
We need more people like you
Finally. This is the oasis in the desert that is youtube comments
Dont wory noah, we all know thanos is a better character, on a whole other level of quality
Actually gonna say the “everyone is literally an immortal god until the plot demands otherwise” take on writing... everything DC is very much worse.
Like actually what do any of the justice league characters aside from superman contribute to fighting big bads? Everyone in that universe is scaled up to super-lightspeed destruction that in order to have any tension or stakes every enemy is just superman but stronker until not stronker (with krypton but again if you need a maguffin way out).
The thing is, Thanos needed the Infinity Stones to become a god. But Darkseid already is one...
Thor is also a god - god of thunder and Thanos could beat him up even without the infinity stones. And Thanos was able to withstand attacks from Odin who in Marvel universe is the most powerful God, even more powerful than Zeus.
Thanos is a new god
Isn’t thanos a Titan which are stronger than gods
@@kimwingren7169 maybe then the marvel godd
Yeah Uxas is roughly equal to Thanos. Darkseid is stronger.
Darkseid: Stares at Thanos
Thanos: I am inev... Innocent
the DC comic book writers just made all of their heroes and villains wickedly powerful in general
ikr...they can write superman are capable of destroy the whole universe by blinking and everybody just accepted it XD
Love that shit
Batman is human. Green lantern is human. Hello?
@@felix4now948 flash, the atom, cyborg all humans as well
Bitter tears of a marvel fanboy?
Unfortunately they nerf me in the MCU. No cosmic powers, energy or matter manipulation, immortality, magic, nothing. That's something dc does better. Let's the characters be powerful
Hahaha
Even in the comics you are weaker than Darkseid so either way you lose. Not trying to be rude.
@@toby1061 HOTU and Astral regulator Thanos would disagree
They did the same to me, but that wont stop us from killing each other.
@@thanos7459 True Form (w/ or w/out Anti-Life) & Soulfire Darkseid would like to have a word or 2 w/ u
In the words of Stan Lee himself: the winner is whoever the writer wants it to be! We of course can look at all of these feats and say what we think but at the end of the day it’s the creators who decide the victor. If they want Spider-man to find a way to defeat Thanos they can do that. If they want Thor to beat Darkseid they will buff him up to the Old King/Thorforce Rune King Thor and have him win. It is what it is. Personally, my favourite heroes and antagonists are those written well.
Agreed. Couldn’t have said it any better
a man of culture
cheers 🍸
Of course, power scaling should always serve the story first and foremost
Umm no
That's not really a good way to do what if fights as they would al eventually lead to "Whoever the writer's want to win".
That oof really had me cracking up when he stomped Thor
I laughed when Snyder called Darkseid “king daddy of the universe”
Kinky name
Thanos: I am Inevitab-
Darkseid: And I am darkseid.
Don't you mean "DARKSEID IS"?
I think you mean: I AM ENTROPY, I AM DEATH, I AM DARKSIED
And I Am Groot
And I'm Thor, God of Hammers
@@justaguywithagoogleaccount5728 Boring
Imagine how screwed the universe would be if they teamed up
Wanda,thor and doc strange: B*TCH WE READYY!!
@@gamemode.1907 plus Superman, flash, and Wonder Woman
they did in the comics
You mean, the multiverse
@@gamemode.1907 Lol nice joke
We haven't even seen Darkseid against the Justice League... But we know how strong he is from a fight of 5000 years ago. Imagine how badass he is now🙆🏿♂️🙆🏿♂️
That's his Avatar he himself lives outside of multiverse
There are animated movies.. Do watch it
Justice league war on apokalips
Justice league war, etc
Plus you gotta remember, the Justice League is easily more powerful than the Avengers
@@kunjbiharibudania4866 That’s the comics not the movies.
@@zz2793 You can’t use the comics. Stop it. Just please stop it.
Once Darkseid debuts the Omega Sanction in the DCEU Thanos would be running for his life.
you're wrong dogy
@@KosovanWarrior1 Your proof?
@@KosovanWarrior1 lol, fanboi
It's good to note that Darkseid in the Darkseid war is much younger being Uxas who is MUCH weaker than when he's grown up.
Snyder said he was a child then
Darkseid back then didn't even had the omega effect so its unfair comparing Thanos to this Darkseid since this Darkseid never fought the league or any heroes.
He was still a infant during that Battle. Probably just came out of the whom and straight into battle.
Even though he was weaker he still managed to kill a lantern
@@brucedoyle4055 Ummm no 💀 not that young
the sad thing is, DC finally has a powerful boss level character, despite joker, in the DC cinematic universe, where everyone has to unite and come forward against him, and Warner Bros say: no, I don't like that. Let's butcher it
@Jason Berryman nope. WB has no idea what they are doing. From what I heard the CEO is even calling the fans toxic. It's like the people running WB are the same people running Lucasfilm
@@batalorian7997 Kathleen Kennedy was given the reigns by Lucas and she still manages to shit on his vision.
The new sydners cut was really good i enjoyed it and think it could compare to an avengers movie and debately surpass some of them
@@shak-yv1ec age of ultron is kinda meh
I mean dc only managed a good movie in 4 hours long movie whilst marvel been doing it for less longer movies dc still shambolic but I do hope it get sorted
wow, this is great, the one on one that we all wanted ...
please do more of these superheroes, villains, beasts, monsters , evils, goods, one on one battles.
Awesome stuff !
Darkseid: *"KID"*
Thanos: *"ready my armor I'll use the old ways"*
Darkseid: *"you'll need your glove too"*
Thanos: *"🤬"*
Darkseid: *"😈"*
Darkseid literally fought the Amazonians before Thanos was born 😭
If Darkseid had the Anti Life equation....it would be very interesting
But wait, in the nightmare scenario Dark seid killed aquaman underwater, with his own trident. Calculate the strength required to achieve this feat while also giving credit to water displacement and aquamans speed underwater and dark seid might just win that last equilization category.
You ain't making any sense tbh
That is set in the future meaning he'd be stronger than he is currently
@@because1037 true
@@because1037 that’s literally 1 year in the future as stated by the director. 1 year isint a huge amp for darkseid lmao
@@because1037 No, he was powerful the moment he came to the throne and got the omega beam. Remember at the end of ZSJL, he is coming to earth with a big armada, so it doesn't take place that much into the future, the Knightmare future is probably many, many years after the invasion because it seems that Batman's team has been hiding from Darkseid for a long time, they are wearing worn outfits and they changed a lot. Slade's mohawk and Joker's new look must have taken a long time.
Thanos: I am inevitable.
Darkseid: *I am.*
100% agree with your analysis, well detailed
darkseid stronger in comics and movie. took multiple gods to stop him before he got the omega force. took multiple heroes working together to separate the motherboxes. only took Zeus by himself to do the same. shows the level of power of the gods he was fighting. comic wise infinite frontier showed what his true form can do.
wuzza and indian of quality
@Xinge Gao Ares was weakened after the Zeus fight. Zeus while weakened created an island. cyborg can legit end the world by crashing the market and launching all nukes. this man can make batman poor
@Xinge Gao like he said and how the movies imply. Ares was weakened and injured after Zeus blasted him with all his power, plus its thousands of years later too and ares is way older too. Just watch the movies
@Xinge Gao WW won because she was fighting a much older and weakened version of ares (because of Zeus). the same ares who contributed to the great one; Darkseid's defeat would shitkick wonder women. Also, it took 3 gods that were all superman level power to send Darkseid back.
@@p1x3l68 Well she only beat Ares because of love right? Thats her power in a sense? Which neutralises Ares power which comes from war. But in a proper one on one Ares won every time.
they said darkseid could dust a whole planet, thanos needed a gauntlet that took him years to get the infinity stones...
Yup
Darkseid is the boss
Yeah
I’m allergic to dream stans
@@necrolord1348 Stands
Thanks for the video! Good information!
Good catch. I completely forgot about Steppenwolf being stated as fighting moon level Doomsday
Steppenwolf isn't moon level
Wow! That was a really detailed and concise comparison. I was really rooting for my Marvell Comics character, but as you laid it out, he just falls short.
The DC universe has been always been a way more overpowered, and that’s alright
its boring superman coming in and kills stepan wolf in two seconds.. but batman wins vs superman like what is that i like dc just not the movies i like the comics
@@noobmasters6913 Superman didn’t want to kill Batman
That's why I don't like the DCEU, the MCU is just so much more grounded.
@@23Raind I think he means that Marvel spent more time developing all.
@@diegobelmonteoficial lol haha
How can Steppenwolf be a planet buster level if WonderWoman is nowhere near that, but she can decapitate him?
Because she hit his flesh instead of his armour, The Sword of Athena is magical in nature, probably also the reason Ares’s axe was able to penetrate Uxas (Darksied) so easily.
Steppenwolf nor Superman nor Darkseid nor Doomsday are planet busters.
@@mk11rain24 yeah because they all are solar system busters at minimum
@@mshaheerarshad How?
@@mk11rain24 are you talking about comics or movies? Because if you’re talking about comics then honestly you’re stupid, now if you’re talking about movies then he scaled off the moon breaking feat from Stepphan wolf and doomsday battle and Superman who should be more powerful than the two prior so from that he should at least be small planetary
The fact that Thanos (literally just an alien person) is being compared to Darseid (a god of darkness and unstoppable power) at all is a sign of just how incredible Thanos is.
It’s like saying, “who would win in a basketball game, Michael Jordan or my friend Jack?” The answer is probably Jordan but the question itself is a huge compliment to Jack.
Both took an axe to their chest by a god and survived, but Uxas also tanked Artemis arrows, the king of Atlantis's trident blast, and blocked Zeus's lightning
Thanos took Thor’s lightning
For me uxas' feats was better, he did all that when he's not at his peak yet. It took three gods to beat him so it's not considered a senseless lost. Whilst prime thanos survived a prime thor's attacks and survived. Not fair.
@@lhanzejaredcarpio6037
Yeah. But Stormbreaker was specifically designed to kill Thanos.
@@CaptainAmerica930 Nobody said that. Was ares axe specifically designed to make uxas bleed? Nah. Its just weapons just powerful ones. Uxas took on tougher opponents and even tanked ares' full axe swing and his body didn't split in half. All that while at his weakest state and survived. While a prime thanos who's recently charged up with all 6 infinity stones took on storm breaker and survived? He should have.
@@lhanzejaredcarpio6037
Almost dying from a weapon is not tanking it. & had it not been for his army protecting him he would be dead.
He was clearly no match for the old gods. They delivered several hits on him.
He got none.
Cinematic Thanos has one in a million chances of defeating Cinematic Darkseid.
COMIC Thanos has NONE in a trillion chances against Comic Darkseid.
The question here is not even if Darkseid would win. He would.
The question here is... would Darkseid at least do the common courtesy of taking his hands from behind his back.
Comic Thanos is way more powerful than you think... He literally has possessed The Heart of the Universe and the Gauntlet has no drawbacks, also he took a full shout from black-bolt and point blank range.
@@lyricalap thanos isn't multiversal, darkseid is... that's really the only argument here. Either way, they can't kill each other either.. Thanos is immortal. Darkseid can die, but not really...
@@youngboy2140 Darkseid isn't "multiversal" he is dimensional (he resides in the 4th dimension) Thanos could still beat him given Thanos doesn't become stupid and enter it.
@@lyricalap thanos has no chance in beating true darkseid, whilst darkseid can send countless avatars
@@kuro5041 apparently the issue with the Darkseid avatars is misinterpreted. I'm not 100% sure on what the actual case is but it's true that Darkseid is multidimensional but the avatar thing was only specific to 1 or a few stories and that those avatars were sort of as powerful as true Darkseid. So apart from those stories whenever we encounter Darkseid in the comics, it's true Darkseid.
Hope Doomsday will Come and Give Pain to both Darkseid and Thanos😁
Doomsday doesn’t stand a chance...
@@dosomestuff1949 Yes he his
But I'm pretty sure he will give pain to them😁
@@dixondaniel wdym
Dark Seid Can Trap Him into a life cycle where he dies infinitely until he wants to free him
@@King-bk1iq you are right
But I'm saying about fist 2 fist😁
To be frank it's very interesting how Doomsday sue both of them😉
You missed the part where we saw Darkesid/Uxas tank a hit from a green lantern beam in the flashback, and 2 arrows from an "Old God" which as seen by how it destroyed a ship later in the flashback is no small deal.
A mere human made Thanos shed blood even if it was just a drop
It took Gods to even harm Darksied
Edit: reply if you dare, I am undefeated.
That comparison is absolutely trash downplay.
This "human" had an armored suit Cappable of fighting Cull Obsidian and survived a hit from Thor's Hammer and even weaker armors fought a weaker Thor who created storms.
Edit: Thanos whooped Iron Man anyway
@@froger9973 why you so triggered? Lol
I wasn’t downplaying anyone I’m no fanboy of either side. Yes the mark 45 (I think it’s the mk45) was powerful but ultimately ineffective. All it did was keep tony alive. And it can only survive a strike from mojnir because of writers not wanting to make an avenger weaker then the other. And even if they were even in strength, Darksied still has the omega beams and Thanos ain’t the fastest warrior. He’s tough but no Darksied
@@stoicghost4313 Who said I was triggered? Why would calling you out on you're downplay correlate to being angry?
"I wasn't downplaying anytime I'm not fanboy of either side"
Uh yes you were, especially the part where you said "a mere human can make Thanos bleed" which you took out of context.
"Yes the Mark 45 (I think it's the Mk 45) was powerful but ultimately ineffective. All it did was keep Tony alive"
Ok? And? Why would that sole purpose effect it's attack power? Are you asserting that?
"And it can only survive a strike from Thor's hammer because of writers not wanting to make an avenger weaker then the other"
LMAO, the writers writing it that way would directly mean the feat is legitament. And I never said Iron Man and Thor were even lol.
"Darkseid still has Omega Beams and Thanos ain't the fastest warrior. He's tough but no Darkseid"
I never said Thanos would win, matter a fact base to base. Darkseid would one shot Thanos into oblivion. It's debatable with Infinity Gauntlet Thanos vs Darkseid due to the Haxes the IG posses. I'm just calling you out on you're Thanos downplay.
@@froger9973 bruh you were triggered don’t cap 😆 I’m not reading all that
you got to much time on your hands let’s just say to each his own
@@stoicghost4313 Uh no I wasn't, why would writing a long comment on CZcams correlate to anger? And I'm not busy at all, I'm completely free today so yeah I do have alot of time on my hands rn.
you're comparing the villain of an entire movie franchise to a guy who's had like..five minutes of screentime, in one movie
you have apoint but we only saw thanos fight for two movies which yes is more than darkseid
It's only a speculation on the scale of power level, it's not that hard to understand, but if u didn't then try power scaling on Henry Cavill's Superman level
THIS lol.
@@notjerrybeans3536 true
The movie was setting Darkseid up as the big bad as well.
Yeah Disney nerfed the crap out of Thanos, I love how Synder allow our favorite character's to cut loose and be as powerful as there comic book counterparts
@Milosh Simonovski yeah well comic movie's aren't for you, Disney and Warner Brother's alike. Gobbling a star is no more normal than a purple dude who's over 10 ft tall, weighs over a ton all converted into muscle, which is literally impossible. To top it off he gets a magical glove that not only can eat stars, but can " Shred the universe down to it's last atom " you want " more realistic " check out Christopher Nolans Batman, where a physco dresses up like a bat lowers the city's crime rate, fight 25 guys at a time. Wait... that's not realistic, naw I got nothing
Yeah but even in the comic’s darkseid kills thanos
Dceu darkseid is nowhere near comic book darkseid don't try tht
@@weshal5732 whos trying anything? I have all the issues Jla incarnate and have been reading Darkseid for thirty years bud, I don't need a history lesson, I was simply saying that compared to what Disney is doing these dudes are indeed definitely up there, we did not get to see the rest of Synder's vision, to see it fully come to fruition, but I saw enough particularly " Doomsday who wasn't the real Doomsday and StepphonWolf " Synder allows these characters to cut loose
@@kongsied4279 I didn't say anything about the mcu so I don't know why ur trying to bring it up, I'm simply saying that ur last remark about the characters being able to be as powerful as their comic counterparts is simply not true as if u actually look at on screen feats and not statements from the director or news paper articles then apart from the doomsday that we have not seen no character in the dceu reaches moon busting capabilities
Garrick/Nick, for some reason despite all the evidence you provided Vs Wiki has DCEU Darkseid at Small Country Level instead of at least planetary but they got MCU Thanos scaled correctly at Country Level.
Yes, well they’re behind the times and rarely use statements
Although I think it’s a little too long and I’m not a fan of the 4:3 aspect ratio, the Snyder Cut is an overall MUCH better version of the movie than the Josstice League
if u have a good tv then u can resize the movie to wide fit, just don't be broke
Yeah it's better then the original I just have one criticism
The person who can't take criticisms don't even bother reading
Snyder cut could have been 3 hours and 45 minutes long movie if some of the scenes weren't that long and it almost made me turn it off but I still watched it to the end for example flash saving iris that scene was fucking too long I can make steak and eat it by the time that scene ended
And there is also aquaman going into the ocean while ladies sing why just why what significance did that scene have take in mind I loved the movie so setle down
Saw the new one my absolute favorite it’s is good
Saw the new one my absolute favorite it’s is good
I disagree. It was both a personal choice, and a good one for Snyder.
I think from what we saw in the film Thanos is stronger but Darkseid is intended to be stronger which could be shown in other movies
Darkseid probably doesn't have god power yet and he only displayed omega beams on batmans future visions not his past earth conquests. He'll be on and past thanos' level eventually but not right now
It took multiple gods to take down a young Darkseid so idk i think Darkseid would mop the floor with Thanos
@@xavmanisdabestest darkseid is a god
@@_androo_9202 Anyone else that fought Darkseid was considerably weaker though. He didn’t even put up a fight against the gods, they beat him in like two or three moves
@@Phasmania That was Uxas,He didn’t Even have The Omega Force
That’s like Using Steve Before he got the Serum
This was good!
I think your analysis is spot on.
I feel like Thanos would monologue and Darkseid would politely listen, then Darkseid would monologue then Thanos would politely listen, then they square off and Darkseid just omega beams him. The end.
Or they might be friends
@@brunodimaggio9946 right? Think they'd reason with each other
@@acevfx2923 They would be like Oh Dude You gauntlet is cool and oh Nice Beams
And what makes you think Darkseid's Omega bean can kill Thanos?
They fought in the comics during a DC/Marvel crossover and his Omega beam couldn't even kill Thor as he got in between the two to separate them, and you think it can kill Thanos? Lmao.. That fight ended up a tie, so stop this Omega beam bs, it all comes down to the writers. THANOS CAN'T BEAT DARKSEID NEITHER CAN DARKSEID BEAT THANOS..
End of story
@@TheRealGodButcher so a single comic that’s outdated and not canon is the definite outcome of the fight lol okay 👌🏽
Comments: if thanos and darkseid teamed up
Me: Well this would be an interesting movie to watch
Honestly the movie would be 10 seconds long 🤣
Who wants to team up with me?
That would be the last movie we watch
Dc heroes and Avengers will also team up.
if they teamed up I dunno if our heroes can do something infinity stones and Some god laser shooting tank yea it's gonna be a tough fight but man nice idea! 😍
This reminds me of the episodes of deathbattle where the answer becomes obvious very early in the analysis
5:57 your travel speed must equal your combat and reaction speed otherwise you’d be crashing into everything every time you travel
Now don’t get me wrong your reaction/combat speed doesn’t equal your travel but your travel equals your combat/reaction
smallville darkseid versus MCU thanos
jyst gave so much nostalgia
More understandable 😄
@F K Because DCEU darkseid is too much for thanos...
Shid young Thanos would destroy Uxas
@@bersus3360 not really
Not really fair to compare the two since Thanos had two movies and you barely see Darkseid in one..
And I believe we won’t see him again because WB is dumb
@@itzsquishy3712 yep they don't have any future plans
Darksied only needs only a few minutes. 👊😎
@@dakugmaskara stop the useless hype he didn't do anything yet
@@romanoff8691 yet....clearly darksied is stronger than superman. And superman would mop the mad titans head to the floor. Facts. 😁. So on with the hype. !!!!
Thanos v Darkseid
Chin v Forehead
Forehead always wins.
**HEADBUTT**
K O
My issue with the first stat about the movie Steppenwolf is that isn't a case of ''the director said so'' which doesn't support the feats the characters display in the movie. Superman cuts through Steppenwolf's horn, which would suggest he's putting out more energy than it's required to burst a planet/moon which would probably melt everything around them.
Jim Starlin actually took Thanos' inspiration from Jack Kirby's Darkseid and I can say this is the most successful inspiration of a character ever taken.
Both are great characters created by Comic book legends.
@Leotis Bennett he took just the chair and knowledge part of his character from metron, rest was all Drakseid. Jim said it himself, you got it wrong as well😂.
@Leotis Bennett you just proved you don't know a shit about Darkseid.
Don't reply there is no need of it anymore, I know what you're going to say anyway.
@@monitor-mindtheover-void6712
Thanos is evil Metron.
@@tnbn55 yes, and I'm sane Donald Trump
What about Deadpool off Deathstroke? Wade Wilson on Slade Wilson......
Just the fact of seeing these two badasses on a live action film is phenomenal.
I have always been a fan of dc and marvel, not did I care about the publishers but the comics itself, I really love to see a cross over between dc and marvel characters so the villains aswell
3:33 I was not ready for that lmao
This is an amazing video
The research and scaling are very appreciated
Thank you so much
@@bishopdaking717 like🗿
no they aren't
@@carolynkarwat7223 do you have better scaling? Or are you saying that because you don't like the fact that the mad titan is weaker than the god amongst gods?
@@happygamer9504 maybe not but I find it funny that cyborg has lightspeed reaction and steppenwolf moon level due to scaling
" You couldn't live with your own failures. Where did that bring you? Back to me."
I love the appearance of DARK SIED and steppen wolf. I love their voices too . Dark sied is scarier than I thought . Dark sied omega beam is amazing and over powerful
He’s basically saying since darkseid is faster and there strengths equal the faster win. I agree
Not only that...omega power Is a huge power up, infact darkseid can fly for example
Loved your comparison of Usain Bolt and Israel Adesanya. A lot of comic book comparisons and hypothetical matches never account for actual combat feats.
I haven’t watched this video yet, but read many comics from my childhood and dedicated this as a hobby.
*Thanos ain’t got shit on Darkseid*
Well Thanos is much smarter
@@stupidvideoman3187 not really
other way round actually
@@cosmic_rides999 exactly and darkseid would obliterate someone if they got near him
The omega beam and thanos synapsis killed me 😂
Didn't mention that the Scarlett Witch had Thanos dead to rights before he needed help and called for rain fire.
Thanos had 4 movies to flesh out his motive and reasoning for his villainy darkeseid has had 1. You can’t compare them based off of the films. But based off canon it’d be Darkseid
Thanos only had one movie to flesh out his motives though. Maybe 2 if you include endgame as a separate movie. All he did was sit on a chair and watch until he decided to do it himself.
@@ayoiawe This. He never had any motive until Infinity War. That's not to say that his motivation sucked, because it didn't. But he wasn't build up over 4 movies, he was foreshadowed, which is different.
Well, young Thanos ends up bitten by the Avengers with a few close calls. The old Gods at to team up against young Uxis. In comparison, it’s like if young Thanos went up against Odin, Hela and a few others of the same level.
Thanos is not young in the MCU. He’s thousands of years old.
@@KeyIssues sorry. Younger Thanos
What are you talking about? There was barely any difference between 2014 Thanos and 2018 Thanos.
@@KeyIssues he’s only 1000 years he actually younger than Thor didn’t Odin say Thor was more powerful than him and thanos beat him
Even though I doubt it Bc Odin conquered planets but if Odin thinks Thor is more powerful than him that means Thor is definitely close to Odin and will probably surpass him when he gets the Odin force
@@haysqt_1277 odin didnt actually mean it tho. he only said that cuz thor was on the verge of dying to hela. odin could probably put up a good fight against infinity war thanos. but thor got his shit rocked by no stones thanos in endgame
DARKSEID: I am always getting my ass kicked..
THANOS: I literally kicked everyone’s ass!!
Hey man you should get in to scaling some of the popular anime. You do a pretty good job.
Dude speaks of this as if these fictional characters actually exist.
Salty much?
At least Steppenwolf got his wish of going back home :)
Good point! I hadn't thought of that:) Also Wonder Woman helped him get ahead...
😂🤣 just to die
Everybody gangster til Dr. Manhattan gets bored of existence.
With the time stone, Thanos can slow down time or speed it up or even travel to the past and kill a baby Darkseid. Not to mention with the reality stone he can simply turn his opponents into a rubbery goo. And with the mind Stone he can control anybody and make them do what he wants. This is the reason in Avengers he is shown to get the mind stone near the very end, cause if he had won it in the beginning itself, then there would be no plot as he could simply control the anybody's mind and make them give up the other stones.
This video just got uploaded and landed straight in my feed, even though I have never seen this channel before
I fucks with Key Issues... been fuckin with Key Issues for a minute now!!! I think he does a GREAT job on all his videos, especially his explainer videos... his DEFINITELY in my top 5 of comic book CZcamsrs!! You need to check out some more of his vids!!
Based on your assessment of Thor vs Thanos... that means iron is far more durable than we assume right?
Technically Thanks can’t kill Darkseid with the snap, because that’s not actually Darkseid. Darkseid’s true form is in fourth world, and the Darkseid you see are avatars.