Robin McAlpine discusses the future of the SNP and Scottish Independence. YesCymru Radio 2_5_2024
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- čas přidán 4. 05. 2024
- Robin McAlpine, Scottish Independence strategist and campaigner, discusses the implications for independence and the SNP with Siôn Jobbins, following the resignation of Humza Yousaf as leader and FM.Series 6 Episode 4 (In English / Yn Saesneg)
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Wir wedi mwynhau'r sgwrs yma gyda Robin. I found this a very interesting, and thought provoking discussion with Robin. I'm not expert enough on Scottish politics to know the ins and outs, but I hope the movement can bring itself back together and on track again. One question I should have asked is, "does Scotland needs something like YesCymru - a non party-political, cross party mass, grass-roots movement, to make the case for independence"?
The problem with that is. In Scotland there is an unspoken of huge elephannt in the room when it comes to the independence movment. And that is sectarianism. It is the sleeping dragon that is never spoken of but which permiated the whole mind set and where the clear fault lines are drawn. This poisons the palitical pool in Scotland where the undercurrents run deep, darkand treacherous
Gwych! Excellent analysis Robin MacAlpine 👏👏👏
There is some logic to what he says in the first 5 minutes. Political parties normally change and regenerate when they are in opposition. However, the issue of the SNP being unable to take that break and renew, is hardly their fault.
The opposition parties who could combine to form a government (Labour and Lib Dems), could attract pro independence voters if they would take a more democratic approach to constitutional issues. How can a left leaning, pro independence voter support Labour, who take a hardline Unionist stance in refusing a referendum on Independence.
The Labour party could completely neutralise the SNP in a heartbeat by standing with a manifesto commitment to hold an Independence referendum should they be returned to majority government in Westminster. The problem is that Labour are British Nationalists first, and Socialists and Democrats a distance second. The mainstream, non unionist Scottish voter has little choice other than the SNP.
Broadly agree but labour are a very long way from being socialist these days.
@@SI-vb7hd True, but what I mean is that they are a party that people might want to vote for, but be turned off by their fundamentalist opposition to Independence.
I think it'll be a spoiled ballot from me with #endtheunion
Robin Makes excellent points and he got it right with the GRR bill when he said Sturgeon wanted to show the SNP were different but in my view they really didn't want to deal with as he pointed out Education,Health,Economy, Drugs. The latter reflecting the lack of hope in the country.
The renaming of the David Hume tower just proves the amount of navel gazing the present day politicians appear to run with. Yes Hume , Churchill and Dahl were racists but these were people of their times so why pick over the past instead of looking into the future.
Of course SNP needs to work with Alba and every other pro independence body but let’s not forget where the the anti Salmond faction came from.
Independence votes can only be won from Labour.
The Labour right is Unionist to the core.
Labour left, not so much.
That is where the voters are not moving to right economically and socially.
Hugh MacDiarmud met Saunders Lewis
It is WORSE THAN 79
One does wonder whether the failure of the SNP to provide a route to independence might cause that route to independence to be found away from them. I think of all that Salvo and Liberation Scotland are even now doing and how grounded in law their work is. I have made the case to the Green Party in the past to work with the other parties for independence and similar requests to Alba and SNP fall on the same set of deaf ears. But the Scottish individual is sovereign and thus can totally rid government of any not doing what the people want. The day when this is put into practise could come sooner than some think and that can largely be because of the frustration with the SNP to deliver on independence.
Agreed.
@12:49 A governing what? Robin...'sake man. Quite the Freudian slip.
That’s what I thought
Made me laugh
Here's a short video talk about the poem, 'Hon' by T.H. Parry-Willams (1887-1975, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T._H._Parry-Williams_ ) which I refer to at the very end of the interview. 'Hon' is the feminie form of 'this' (as 'gwlad' and 'iaith'- country and language - are feminie words in Welsh). It's a well-known poem in Welsh presicely because of the sentiment that we can't escape from Wales and our need to fight for her and her language: czcams.com/video/icX-FuNEk8o/video.html
England is on the way out so we are moving into uncharted waters.
Labour in Wales have managed to regenerate themselves under their successive leaders (jury is still out on Vaughan Gething obviously), while Scottish Labour picked some right duds after Donald Dewar until Anwar took on the job.
I do have one recommendation though. If you want a guaranteed exit from the Union, extend the vote to the English - you would be out withing the first hour of counting.
As regards to Kate Forbes, I think she knows what shit show is going to happen for the next couple of years, so she is not daft enough to be the leader at that time. Always be the leader AFTER the thing has collapsed, not the one at the time.
Your comment is a repeat of one that has been made for at least 12 years. The problem is, it's utter bollocks.
The English by majority would vote to keep what they perceive as "their country" together.
Only the people of a specific nation can vote for that nation's independence.
Snp don't name Scottish University buildings,
I agree with you robin but people have no were to go whats yoyr opinion on salvo is that our opinion also
@YesCymru you ok with what Robin said at 12:49? Seriously?
I love people who get offended on the behalf of others who wouldn't have been.
Robin cant you run for parliament
He can start an argument with his own shadow.
Don't listen to this pish folks. He doesn't represent Scottish Independence movement.
Independence for Scotland is toast for at least 15-20 years (if ever) thanks to the total lack of preparation in the last 17 years.
Scotland now has a £ 20 + BILLION budget deficit which has to be funded, no real improvement in both internal and export infrastructures, declining education, health and local services. No coherent 'pathway to Independence' has been articulated to the electorate, only a number of very expensive, high-level, glossy brochures full of word soup and totally lacking credibility - promises of taking 100,000 children out of poverty, FREE bikes and laptops. Many assume Scotland will keep the GBP, but when I've asked the SNP how the currency will transition to a Scottish Pound - NO REPLIES - there is no detail, nor is there for other costly matters such as borders with the RUK, export tariffs, fisheries protection vessels. The list is endless because NOTHING has been done.
Better together always. Senseless idea dividing and subdividing countries. That's going backwards, and totally idiotic.