Do Revolvers Jam?
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- čas přidán 28. 06. 2024
- Some things that can go wrong with revolvers.
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THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS! I've learned a lot from the shared experiences on this video. I try to reply as much as I can, but on this one I just sat back to learn.
Retired professional gunsmith and police armorer here. Proper cleaning and lubrication, followed with tightening screws on weapons has been around since the beginning. Clean your weapons after shooting them. EVERYTIME!
Good case in point. When in charge of a shift of police officers as a Sgt. I'd have random inspection of weapons. When one officer went to the clearing barrel, his weapon was frozen tight from rust, filth, and corrosion. He was relieved of duty and his weapon and sent home, and advised to meet the Division Commander at 10:00 AM the next morning. He received a three day suspension without pay. I took the weapon to the armory and spent six hours restoring it to proper condition.
And when he returned to duty, he was pissed off at me! I told him that his stupidity could have cost him his life. Further, every officer in the unit. And worse still, the lives of the citizens we were sworn to protect.
The people who brag about never cleaning their weapons are complete idiots.
Anangryranger... IDK how long ago the incident you shared happened, but I can tell you from experience that way back in the dark ages when I was a rookie L.E.O. those old school bulls were something else when it came to their guns, LOL....
Back then we were still issued revolvers & the ridiculous old drop pouches for spare ammo, which I immediately replaced with HKS speedloaders....
Anyway, one night the Sgt called for firearms inspection after Roll Call, so we all lined up with our empty Model 64's cylinders open & when the Sgt asked one old guy to show him his spare ammo, the guy popped open his dump pouch and three .38 Spl rounds and about a $1.50 in change fell out 🤣🤣🤣🤣
And since the patrol cars had mounts which held the shotgun in a vertical position, the old bulls would use the shotgun barrel as an ashtray 🤯
Plus every year or two some knucklehead riding in the passenger side would be playing with the rack mounted shotgun safety & blow a hole in the patrol car roof because someone had left a shell chambered.
@@jeffanon1772 Yeah, I hit the bricks in the mid 70s. We were issued S&W mod 13s, and upon assignment to a unit after the academy, you could carry your own weapon after qualifying with it. I carried my own S&W mod 28 which served me well. Near the end of my career when the autoloaders were forced upon us, I was issued a Beretta 92F. Pitiful weapon. I bought a Glock 19 that was an early US import with a three digit serial number. But I had no faith in it or the caliber. I retired a year later. And promptly sold that Glock.
I remember some of the old timers that used dump pouches with ammo that had turned green inside them. They were something else! 😏
Back in the Dark Ages of the 1970s my preferred gun shop had some Colt Official Police revolver trade ins from tranquil villages and hamlets. One of those had never been unholstered during the 30 + years of carry by an Officer. To remove it the stitching on the holster seam had to be cut off and the leather sheath peeled back like a banana skin. The barrel was clogged muzzle to forcing cone with impacted debris and the lockwork was frozen shut with accumulated lint. The cartridges were questionable at best, so the bullets were pulled and components disposed of. But the casings were salvageable for reloading. The sidearm cleaned up nice, like new and only factory test fired.
@@jeffanon1772I was a sheriffs deputy for 36 years and as you stated I have seen 💩 that you described. As in any job you have good and you have stupid. I seen one officer fire a revolver through holster. Bullet went through his nether region and struck officer beside him in his nether region. Both werent worth a damn but it could have resulted in fatal incident. Ive seen a lot of ignorance. I did it from 1981 to 2017
@@robtans5042 yup, I've seen a couple of holsters get the bottom blown out by some cowboy Cop practicing their quick draw ..
One incident I'm glad I wasn't there for was after Agencies started issuing semi autos & during the inspection of a S&W 5906 one night, the Deputy took the slide off, but left the barrel & recoil spring in place & the Sgt was satisfied with that & told him to reassemble it.
The Deputy did so, which left the hammer cocked & instead of using the safety/decocker the 5906 had just like the Beretta 92FS ..he just pulled the trigger to drop the hammer ..which launched a 9mm +P round (because he'd popped the slide off
w/o clearing the chamber) that ricocheted around that concrete block room a couple of times before lodging in the ceiling...
Nobody was hit, thank God, but a couple of them had to go home & change into clean underwear, LOL...
Most L.E.O.'s aren't gun enthusiasts & come to work without their sidearm or leave them in the restroom all the time 🤣
Revolvers do jam, they’re tools and no tool is perfect, but if you maintain them and take care of them they do it way less frequently than semi-autos
It never fails, when I watch videos about revolvers vs autos. They always mention that “revolvers never jam” as a positive for carrying one. Needless to say the video is immediately turned off, clearly doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
Anything mechanical can break or jam. Keep your firearms clean and inspect when done cleaning. Anything other than that is basically out of our control.
Excellent content man 👍🏻
Exactly, I was brought up with "you take care of it, it'll take care of you" from both my maternal grandad and my late dad.
Greg, what happened to you S&W 66 -2 is exactly what happened to my Taurus model 66 with 4 in barrel. Blue loctite worked yes..
Also primers that aren't set right can back out due to recoil. Makes it real fun to get the cylinder open then..
Stay safe
Absolutely they Do.
no gun is without it's list of possible issues.
Another great video. Especially for those of us who love wheel guns.
Great video. All mechanical tools are subject to failure. We must properly maintain and inspect them.
Years ago, I bought a Python from a friend who had carried it on duty. At the range it hung up in slow double or single action. There was a burr on the ratchet where the hand moved it. A few minutes with a stone, and all was well. Most recently, I was running some old aluminum cased +P Blazer 38 ammo through a 30 year old Taurus 605, when it bound up. I could open it, but close it and it hung up. Took a moment to find the little piece of metal between crane and frame; it was not quite closing completely. Without the cylinder pin dropping into its hole and pushing the release back, nothing moved. Nothing beats a New York Reload!
Bom dia aqui do Brasil meu amigo americano.revolver magnífico, hojeu fui ao estande de tiros e utlizei meu Rossi 4" polegadas de cano, fazia tempo que ele nao saia da Batcaverna😂. Importantíssimo o que o Sr fala no vídeo, treinamento e manutenção. Obrigado pelo trabalho. Deus abençoe as Américas 🇧🇷🤝🇺🇲. Musica muito bonita da abertura.
Anyone who says that revolvers don't jam has clearly not spent enough time with one. From my experience, I've had revolvers jam from one of three reasons:
- not doing a good enough job cleaning it (especially around or under the star)
- screws backing out
- for 9mm revolvers, bullets jumping the crimp. I've never had a problem with .38's, .357's, or .44's in this regard, but because 9mm cartridges only had a taper crimp and not a good roll crimp, it doesn't take much for a short 115gr 9mm to jump the crimp and lock everything up
Good experience to share about 9mm revolvers.
how about primers not seated.......
@@matthewtarka2804 That is true, but primers sticking out can also cause problems for autos, not just revolvers, and tends to be more associated with reloads than factory ammo
@@matthewtarka2804 Another reason.
I think you covered the revolver issues thoroughly. Most common for me has been the ejector rod loosening with magnum loads. I also had the cylinder screw loosen once. As far as keeping it clean (essential to all firearms), my late grandfather had a neat old Rossi snub nose .38 special. He passed away and my father inherited it. My father and I took it to the range, and it locked up after about ten rounds. Sure enough, when I brought it back home it was dry as a bone. Rem Oil and a lot of scrubbing brought it back to working order. Even the venerable AK will eventually fail if you abuse it enough. Bottom line: carry what you want, but practice with it and keep it MAINTAINED. Take care of your guns and they will take care of you.
That should be everyone's mantra.
Thanks for aother great Saturday night video, Greg, & for sharing your wisdom.
I literally wince whenever I hear someone claim that revolvers never jam &/or if they do all it takes is another pull of the trigger because in 55 years of shooting revolvers I've witnessed:
Ejection rods backing out as you covered..
Empty shell casings getting caught up under the extractor star which is a pain to clear...
A squib load that lodged perfectly half way between the front of the cylinder & the rear of the barrel, completely freezing up the cylinder & it had to be tapped back into the chamber with a cleaning rod...
Another squib load which lodged half way down the barrel, which is why I flinch whenever some gunshop commando recommends immediately pulling the trigger again whenever a revolver hickups...
& the scariest of all, a hang fire where the shooter kept pulling the trigger even though his gun didn't go bang and that round had rotated over to the 9:00 position & fired straight out of the cylinder...which was actually fortunate for him because another split second & he'd have rotated yhat chamber down to the 6:00 position where the frame would have blocked it 🤯...
As you so accurately observed, revolvers DO jam & when they do, it's much much more difficult to clear than when a semi auto hickups..often requiring partial disassembly.
In fact, the one & only critical failure I've ever witnessed was with a buddy's Dept issued S&W Model 5906 9mm...it kept stove piping & the Range Officer kept insisting he was limp wristing it... until they disassembled it & discovered that the barrel had split half way down it's length like a banana peel... allowing so much of the gasses to bleed off that it didn't have enough recoil to properly cycle...
They popped a new barrel in right there on the range & it ran fine whereas a revolver would have needed a trip back to the factory.
Wow on that 5906 story.
@@LionquestFitness yeah, those 5906's were built like tanks & he'd been issued that one for a couple of years with no problems but somewhere along the way there was a tiny flaw in the metal of the barrel that eventually cracked ..
Lucky for him it failed on the range & not the street .. proving the wisdom of your video...
Any firearm carried for self defense absolutely needs to be trained with, practiced with, & cleaned, maintained, & inspected regularly... including the holsters, magazines, & ammunition.
As my new friend here Angryranger shared, the old school L.E.O.'s would sometimes leave their brass cased spare ammo unattended for so long it'd turn green, LOL.
My old Agency was smart enough to issue fresh carry ammo every year and we shot the old stuff up during one of the quarterly qualifications.
The professional gunman James Butler Hickok had it right..daily carrying two of those old percussion cap single action black powder revolvers, whenever possible he would begin the day by picking a target, firing 5 shots from one into it, then thoroughly cleaning & reloading it before doing the same with the other revolver... always keeping one loaded & ready to use at all times.
Since black powder is hydroscopic & absorbs moisture, Hickok wisely began each day with fresh powder & percussion caps and clean well maintained handguns because his life literally depended on them.
Our modern metallic cartridge ammunition is far more durable, but still regularly practicing with & checking one's handgun, ammunition, magazines, & holster is just plain smart.
As my buddy found out with that 5906 it's better to have it break on the range & not the street.
@@jeffanon1772 It is interesting to me that even towards the end of his life, Hickok carried two cap and ball revolvers in .36, the predecessor for .38, instead of a revolver that would handle the then modern black powder cartridges.
My 605 Taurus jammed using reloads .357 s. ( the cylinder wouldn’t turn)
.38 calibur no prob at all . I only now shoot .38 s.
Thanks lion
The Smith and Wesson Model 10 I owned unfortunately had a problem with the ejector rod becoming loose and locking up the cylinder. The +P ammunition I was issued apparently caused it to become loose. This revolver came from a NYC Transit Cop who was issued the Glock 19 and sold me the revolver for $150 with the leather and speed loaders. He only fired around 500 rounds. This was typical of many S&W revolvers. Always check the screws, clean the extractor Star as it will cause a jam.
I’ve found that revolvers are reliable for consistency without fail for thousands and thousands of rounds whereas the average semi has a misfeed, stovepipe, backup in the chamber, etc every few dozen rounds. 30 years of range time and this average holds true both personally and observing at my range across the boards. My model 19 had the ejector rod issue straight outta the gate and as you did, a drop of blue loctite solved the issue instantly and permanently. On my 686 that I did a spring job on my tension screw backed out a bit once, but a good twist with my screwdriver and that too was solved instantly and permanently. I maintain my revolvers well. Clean after each trip to the range unless I know I’m going right back the next day with the same revolver. Check screws every few months, wipe down, re oil, function check, back in the safe. So in short, 30 years, 20 revolvers, two minor issues. I’m concluding that revolvers are exponentially more reliable than the semi autos hands down.
Thank you for this video. Your point is essential. Revolvers must be carefully cleaned, their screws must be tightened and the ejector rod must be checked after every shooting session. Of course semiautomatic pistols must also be cleaned after each session. But it is often simpler and faster.
Good point.
Thank you. And, by the way, I also had problems with PPU ammo, especially in .30-30.
@@marie-noellebaechler1433 That's good to know.
I’m too familiar with the old M16A1 being finicky when dirty from my service. So I’m a bit OCD about cleaning my weapons. While I can understand guys being lazy about gun cleaning, I can’t understand anyone who’d think it “cool” to have a dirty weapon.
It blows my mind how for some it is a badge of honor. I fully realize most striker fired pistols can go a long time without maintenance, but why risk it for a carry gun.
@@LionquestFitness I guess the only reason I can grok are hard core AK fans who want to flex on how dependable the rifle Is compared to an AR.
Great video Greg. I remember in the police academy, the firearms instructor stressing the point about gun oil and how over oiling can cause a revolver to jam. He explained that the gun is made to function dry and oils attract dirt and can cause the revolvers extractor to back away from the cylinder, which causes the cylinder to bind and keeping you from opening and closing the cylinder. On another note a lot of fine wood stocked rifles and shotguns stocks cracked from over oiling.
A lot of very good observations and experiences are being shared here.
Thank you for another fine video
Good and necessary video. Don’t forget to clean under the star.
Good point. Another potential cylinder jam.
My grandfather owned a 6" nickel plated model 10. At some point, something broke or got out of time, and the DA was bound up. Oddly enough, you could still manually pull the hammer back for single action. I don't know if that counts as a jam, but it would have been bad news in a critical situation. Thanks for the video, Greg!
...usually from improperly loaded/reloaded ammo - a poor crimp or loaded beyond the COAL...
Aside munition related problems, any mechanical device can jam as a politician can lie. Many reasons why, but that is...
I'm glad to see you doing the correct way to eject and reload a revolver. That is the way I learned back in 1982. We have to clean after our shift every day.
Nice video and great shooting Gret.
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Hi Greg,I'm one of those people who after shooting any of my guns even if just one shot it gets cleaned and checked. That's what my dad showed me. Maybe that's a little nerdy but if I have to trust that gun with my life or a loved one I want a little edge. Like knowing it will most likely not fail me. Awesome video Greg thanks for all your hard work and time Sir.🤠🇺🇲
Not a bad system of doing things!
We're the same way, even just one round fired, the gun gets cleaned...we've had minor issues, our Taurus 942 ejector rod got loose, and would not tighten, until we discovered it was lefty-tightly, not rightly-tighty...go figure...! and of course our heritage works screws loose with clockwork regularity...our other revolvers have been problem free, so far, but the bottom line is simple: any firearm with moving parts (pretty much all of them) can fail at any time...
Help that cylinder around. Back in the fight. 🐻
Spot on presentation Greg. I’ve had the cylinder release screw back out, the hand lock up and had rounds jump crimp locking up the cylinder. These things happen most often w/the air weight & air light models and the bottom line is if it’s man made it can fail. Regular maintenance is your friend w/any handgun. Take care . . .
Wisdom from experience. Thank you for sharing.
👍👍 Thanks Greg . Everyone should understand that whatever type of firearm you’re shooting there is a possibility of a mechanical failure. It seems that having an extremely dirty firearm only increases your chances of having problems so I really don’t understand the point of not keeping your guns clean and in good working order. Hope you’re having a great weekend.
Thank you and you do the same Lance!
I'm retired now, and I have been carrying and shooting revolvers since I was 21yrs old. The only time I ever had a revolver jam on me was my faut. I was shooting my own reloads and I didn't get one of the primers all the way flush with the case, and as a result the revolver jammed. It only happened that one time, and never happened with factory ammunition.
At the time, I was using a Lee Ergo Priming tool, it was a piece of crap. I switched to a Frankford Arsenal Perfect Seat Hand Primer and haven't had any issues since.
Revolvers, semi-autos, both mechanical devices, both can have malfunctions and failures. If we don’t believe that we need to rethink our thinking. Great video Greg, thanks for posting.
Thanks GB. BTW - I've been working out my "retirement' for this time next year. Of course retirement means going back to work. I'm taking your lead. I've kept my EMT certification current and tentatively I'll be back in school for a year for paramedic. Good Lord willing nothing changes in the interim.
@@LionquestFitness that’s great. Congratulations. You’ll make a great paramedic. Hope you’ll continue with the CZcams postings. A package should show up in a few days. 👍
@@3Pillers I've got one more as a teacher, and this year will definitely be busy as I prepare for the change, but I'm hoping to continue with CZcams.
Excellent information, Greg! I have had 2 different SP101s stop rotating while training.
Working around issues like the Loctite. Great work!
My .454 Ruger Alaskan used to crimp jumped... And there's a story online about a Kodiak attack and the man was carrying a Ruger .454 Alaskan and his crimp jumped...
They can, they're just much less likely to jam. Jams are also a lot easier and faster to fix with revolvers. Revolvers can also be fired from inside a pocket without malfunctions, you fire a semi auto from inside a pocket, you might get one or two shots off before there's an issue.
Over the years I've only had an issue with a revolver once. I was shooting some cheap Blazer aluminum case 38's when the cylinder froze up. So, I pressed the cylinder release, gently tapped the cylinder against a small tree trunk and popped it open. Needless to say, I never shot aluminum case ammunition again.
I have been shooting revolvers for over 70 years . Never had a problem.
Thx for the tips. I'm supposed to pick up my 686 Plus out of Layaway on Independence Day.. So much I don't know......
RockOn.StayFree.
Clean after every use will serve you well...
@@JohnPublic-dk7zd Thank You Friend.
Don't forget bullet creep. A few years ago, I had some Golden Saber 38 + P that would work itself out of the case and cause cylinder lock up usually by 3rd or 4th round fired. Ran the remaining unfired round through a crimp die. Problem resolved.
Salut Greg, as an avid collector and shooter of S&W Military and Police revolvers, I have experienced all the usual mechanical jams … eg the ejection rod unwinding, a build of gunk around the forcing cone or on the yoke etc. Recently I was having great difficulty opening the cylinder to load on my S&W 686, which I purchased new only a few years ago. Having stripped the revolver and performed all the usual cleaning routines, I finally came to the conclusion that the safety lock on the cylinder release catch was actually slipping slightly into a locked position. Having the safety lock key I have tried to make it stay in a solid open position, however this is not consistant. So I will now discuss with my armurier the best (and legal) permanent solution. Cordialement RB.
Thank you for sharing Robert. That is the first verifiable failure of the safety lock failing that I've come across, although I'm sure it happens.
I've had the same thing happen with my Smith & Wesson Model 19's ejector rod. I used a tiny screwdriver to pop it loose so the cylinder could open, then tightened the rod back. Problem sovled.
Any machine can malfunction, and they often find their own individual and interesting--at least years later when telling the story--ways. That's why I carry a backup as well.
Can they jam? Yes, yes they can. Issued a Colt .357 at the academy, on the firing range the next day fired one round (bullseye) and the gun locked up tight could not even open the cylinder. Sent it into the armor for a replacement.
Great video Greg. I have to say, in over 50 years of shooting I only had one revolver jam. It was a Taurus model 83 in 38spl. Like you, I found the ejector rod getting loose and I fixed it. Never had a problem with any Ruger or Smith & Wesson revolvers I have owned. Guess I'm lucky.
Well, through the sixties, seventies, and early eighties, a Smith and Wesson revolver was a thing of quality at an affordable price. If you took care of it, it was rare to have problems. When I got back into firearms around 2015, I was taken back at the lack of quality control and customer service that Smith and Wesson had.
thank you, greg. nice lesson.
Greg, once I had a peculiar jam with a SW 625 .45 ACP revolver. After a few shots in the range the cylinder latch broke and fell down, leaving the cylinder locked with 3 live rounds. The screw did not get loose. It broke. I also had some loose ejector rods, specially in older SWs. Good shooting as always. God Bless. Happy Trails to You.
Interesting mechanical failure.
Sounds like to me. They were using some, pretty dirty burning powder in those rounds.thanks for the video
Awesome video, as always. In the 10 years since I switched over to revolvers exclusively, I have experienced 2 failures, 1 of each kind you mentioned. The first was ammo-caused. The primer wasn't fully seated, jamming the cylinder. The second was gun-related, and fixed under Rock Island Armory's excellent warranty. So, a failure every 5 years, and I go to the range as frequently as possible, ain't bad. In fairness though, my failures with semi-autos have all been ammo-related. Btw, my oldest grandson has borrowed my 856 to see if he wants to switch over, because he's experiencing a lot of active pipes with his Shield.
I owned two different Shields a few years ago. I don't own them anymore. 🙄
In my comments above, I don't know how "STOVE PIPES" morphed into "ACTIVE PIPES", but he's experiencing stove pipes.
That Henry is sweet. In shooting a Model 642 I recently picked up I had tried several types of ammo including the Hornaday Critical Defense 110 grain polymer tipped ammo. It shot a out 6 to 8 inches low at 7 to 10 yards. Switched to Remington 158 grain semi-wadcutters and it was spot on.
The only "critical failure" I've ever experienced in a revolver was due to a broken mainspring in a brand new Ruger GP-100 in 1994. Ruger fixed it but I had to sell it anyway due to the bad "mojo". I hate cleaning guns but revolvers are so easy to clean and nothin is prettier when they are all cleaned up and shiny. It's well worth the 10 minutes work.
10 minutes? You're fast. (Or I'm slow...)
Monarch ammo caused malfunctions in my Glock 36. I even had a couple of ejected cases with flames coming out of them as they ejected. Needless to say I haven’t had any issues since I switched ammo.
That might explain a snafu years ago when I tried to get my wife to shoot an SD-9 VE and a ball of fire shot out of the side and she screamed and accused me of trying to murder her.
My S&W 638 had a binding issue on a particular chamber. It took me a long time to figure out what was wrong with it. It was a burr on the ejector. It would bind with the detent on that one chamber. I tried polishing it. But that got it a bit too short. So I had to order a new one from Brownels. The tolerances are surprisingly tight. I couldn't see by eye what the problem was. But I could measure it. A few thousandths of an inch matter!
Amazing.
28yrs in the Army infantry impressed upon me if the weapon is not clean, make it clean, especially in a combat environment and if NCOs did not make soldiers clean their weapons every day, heads were going to roll. As for revolvers, clean them often. If you develop timing issues, fix it or seek a gunsmith. Treat your revolvers well. I shoot my own handloaded ammo in my revolvers.
Good advice, and with experience like yours, I'd bet money your reloads are precisely done.
@@LionquestFitness I like to think so. I always seek accuracy first. No cutting corners. I measure every charge on my electronic scale. Very time consuming, but for defensive or hunting ammo, extremely critical to consistent dispersion. Reloading is fun to me, would make others cry. Helps with something useful to do late at night when I cannot sleep too. Go slowly, inspect your work, follow the steps from the manuals. Hunting calibers are where reloading is super satisfying. Example: I have a kid load for a Howa 308 I load with RN Hdy 150gr bullets that goes 2400fps. That is slow even for a 308, but only slightly more than a 30-30. Very accurate load. The blind I put kids in is 100yds away from a feeder. Every kid that shoots from there with that combo gets a hog or deer. Builds their confidence and recoil is low. If we do not get the kids into guns who carries on when we are gone to support our rights?
@@MichaelSisley-fw3xr Good point on getting young people into firearms.
Very informative. Thanks for the insights.
I have had two revolvers jam with me. One was a brand-new S&W model 10. It fired one time and jammed. I have to return it to Smith & Wesson with a loaded cylinder. The other time was with a Colt Trooper..My Colt Trooper had a short cylinder, and 158 grain standard 357 loads were too long for the revolver. They did stick out the front of the cylinder. So light weight bullets for that firearm I have been shooting handguns from 1972
Yes they do. I have a S&W 586 that absolutey locked up on me 20 years ago. Took a lot of messing with it to get the cylinder loose. Never did it again. Also had a Taurus 605 that had the cylinder freeze up while it was in a holster. Lots of oil and working back and forth to fee it up.
Oh, another revolver jam I've witnessed was hot loaded handloads that weren't crimped properly & the recoil caused the bullet in one of the unfired rounds extend out the front of the chamber... freezing up the cylinder rotation
Monarch ammo is pure garbage . Its made in Russia and with steel encasements it the worst in 380 acp. Shame on you Academy sports for selling this crap.
I clean all my firearms whenever I'm done shooting them. I find this particularly important with a .22 revolver like my Taurus 96, because .22LR ammo is not clean.
I once owned a High Standard Sentinel .22 revolver that often jammed. Most notably when I was shooting S&B subonic ammo out of it. The cylinder wouldn't rotate and I'd need two fingers to eventually pull the trigger.
Got rid of it and replaced it with the aforementioned Taurus 96, which I found in a pawn shop for $300. That had an issue with misfires, but I figured it wasn't striking the rims hard enough. I looked up and found that Taurus revolvers of that era (Early-Mid 80's), had an adjustable mainspring under the grips. Took them off, turned the screw until I was one turn away from locking the action; now it's fine. Honestly, Taurus revolvers from the 80's are of surprisingly good quality, if you ask me.
I'd forgotten about the adjustable mainspring from back then. Those could be a great help. Funny story. In the early nineties I was issued a Colt Diamondback temporarily, which had light primer strikes. I remembered the Taurus mainsprings and took the grips off thinking I could adjust them. I was disappointed.
Greg, it was good to see some real-life range experiences pertaining to revolver malfunctions. As for PPU ammo, earlier in the plandemic, I remember finding some of their Handgun Line .38 special rounds. 15.50 or 16.50 a box. I never experienced any problems, but the mess on my cylinder, etc., was dirtier than mouse droppings. 😄 BTW, on an Edgar Rice Burroughs/John Carter note, my friend's (in Little Rock, Arkansas) role-playing game company has gotten permission from the Burroughs estate to put out a Barsoom rpg. He's super excited, and so am I.
I'd like to see the john Carter series, old fashioned chivalry and all make a revival.
@LionquestFitness You and me both. The movie wasn't too bad, but the movie or series I see in my head are the Ballantine Books Michael Whelan J.C. covers. I don't remember the reason, but my friend was unable to secure the use of Whelan's artwork.
Thank you for the video. I don't insert myself into that argument anymore. I man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still. I'm old enough to let people live in their fantasies if that's what it takes to get them through their day.😊
Great video Greg I agree PPU Ammo is very smokey used it in My 856 And my Rossi RP 63 at the range like never got the carbon of those Guns I always clean them after the Range give them a good oiling too
I've saw a shooter induced jam on a DA 357. He was using the trigger like a striker fired pistol and locked up the cylinder.
@@RandallWeeks Short stroking the trigger.
my Taurus PT145, catastrophic fail, the spring in the trigger safety failed , firing pin safety is what it is, when this happens it fully locks the slide, no kidding , one tiny spring, it fully binds up the firearm to where the slide will not retract without terrific force
Thank you for this video Greg
Always great work. Thanks for another great one as always Greg!
Couldn't agree more even with revolvers you have to train with, clean and maintain it! Otherwise hard to be sure it will work when needed. I NEVER understood the braggadocio of not cleaning semi for x rounds.. sure it can work for a while, but eventually it won't and why bet/risk your life on an ultra dirty gun when its easy, cheap, and fairly fast to field strip, clean, and reassemble. Clean guns are also more accurate. I give my self every advantage I can, so my gun is like new clean whenever carried, properly oiled where needed and loased with rounds i've tested over 1k of with sub 1% failure rate.. not betting or risking my life on sub par ammo, dirty guns, or inexpensive budget equipment (unless it works damn well!)
Great video Greg. Thanks.
Great video, Greg. Too many people intentionally do not clean their firearms, and I don’t understand that sort of thinking. I have a proper ejector rod tightening tool, and it’s cheap, quick, and easy to use. In the past, I’ve tried to fire a cylinder from one of my revolvers without cleaning it. The OCD kicks in after 30 minutes, and I break out my cleaning kit. 👍👍👍💥
Greg, having watched the video and read most of the comments below, i feel that this subject is a *must manual* (equally.as important as good manners, good dress sence good fire arms and impeccable bandanas) for the Grambo Academy for Refined Gentlemen.
@@lesgillard985 The impeccable bandana goes without saying, Les. 😄
@tylermorrison7051 Yes mate... everything must be impecible 😀😃🙂🙃😊
I've been amazed at what I've been learning from all of the comments.
@LionquestFitness Greg, there is a lot of experienced and knowledgeable people who post on your site... in my humble opinion.
My high school moto was Knowledge is Power, (those day are so long ago, it's the only thing I can remember 😞)
Now I gotta get back to cleaning my water pistols 😀
Great Video. I like it, your video makes us think of gun maintenance & Ammo selection. This is why I tune in, no matter how seasoned you are, Think 👍👍
The comments alone on this video are golden with all the shared experiences being related.
Good vid, thanks for the lesson. You did a good job! Thank you.
Revolvers have failures such as the first you described caused by ammunition. In the case of magnum loads or sloppy handloads, the bullets in the cylinder can slip forward due to fast recoil. They can then lock the cylinder preventing it from turning. The failure you have shown, appears to be the type of failure that can occur when revolvers get out of timing. They can start shaving and spitting lead bullets and in the case you have illustrated it appears to have shaved off a significant part of the copper jacket. The bullet protrusion issue is an ammunition fault. Shaving lead is a gun fault.
Another ammunition fault occurs when there is no powder in a case which is loaded with metal bullets. These will sometimes stick in the barrel. A number of people will load primer only and then WAX in the cylinder for a plinking round. These are called Squib loads. A second shot fired with a bullet in the barrel could cause an explosion.
I was in a Colt speed shop once and saw a gun whose lockup was so sloppy it could have shave lead and possibly blown up.
During the US XM9 tests a Smith and Wesson Model 10 was used as a control. The average rounds fired until gun failure was 410. The competing Sig Sauer and Beretta completed all 2000 rounds with no faults. These are severe tests. In civilian/police use the Model 10 has been very reliable.
Good, in-depth post, but I have to disagree about the timing issue. In this case, which was a very unusual occurrence, the jacket separated from the bullet. I have had issues with timing on other revolvers. experiencing light primer strikes and lead shaving and have had no other problems before or after with this revolver.
@@LionquestFitness While it appears that in this case the jacketed bullet fell apart, it would NOT have been retained in the gap between the cylinder and the frame or barrel if some factor had not stopped it from going out through the barrel. The local suspected occurrence was that it was impacted by the end of the barrel (out of lockup alignment) which damaged the bullet.
Were the alignment not the issue, what then caused the jacket to be stripped off the bullet prior to it's entering the barrel?
@@stephenhendricks7346 Crappy ammo.
Do Revolvers Jam?
Yes but very rarely if the owner maintains the revolver and uses the right ammo. They are far more reliable than autos.
Tinker Talks Guns had a video where he tried out four of his. 38s and his Taurus Micro had rounds back out of the crimp under recoil. There's a lot of reasons for a revolver to choke.
This is true.
Good morning buddy, great video. I purchased a Harry 2.0 holster for my ruger lcr. Thanks for the holster video. Have a blessed week. Dano
Glad the Icon 2.2 is working. Personally, I get less hip and back pain from carrying with the Icon holster, so after back surgery, this could be a major consideration.
@@LionquestFitness Amen, getting old is not for Sissy's
Great video, Greg! That thumbnail caught my eye! 😅😅
Great holster!
Another point for semi autos is you can get a great autoloader for less than 500$. Revolvers (even in 22lr) have seemed to skyrocket in prices. I think the 856 Taurus and Rock island 205 are the only ones with a realistic price point.
That's true.
Another great video! I would love to have one of those Henry’s
I had a S&W model 31 jam shooting cast lead 32long. The fouling and some lead built up on the crane where it goes into the cylinder. You couldnt even pull the hammer back. I pulled the crane and slid off the cylinder nad it was dirty and had some very minute lead flakes there . After cleaning it was back good as new.
Awesome vid.
Great video
thank you sir great vidio enjoyed it
Good information as revolvers are starting to get some respect, or at least some perceived increase in curiosity. Revolver problems I’ve seen included the ejector rod backing out on select S&W 686s ( generally dependent on how much attention the shooter paid to his or her revolver in between range sessions) and Ruger GP100 Stainless binding up from heat after 25-30 rounds of 110 grain Federal .357 Magnum. I had a S&W 940 that locked up on me with Federal Hydra Shok 147s. It had previously worked fine during another range session with Hydra Shok 124 grain +p+ and whatever 124 grain FMJ I’d had on hand. Anyway, I got the cylinder open after it cooled down. So, yeah, revolvers will jam up. They’re mechanical devices. Just noticed recently that the firing pin on my old .38 Special 640 no dash is slow to retract during dry practice. Suggests it’s time for new springs. No idea how many rounds I’d fired but they included a fair amount of +p and +p+ and a lot of rough use over the years.
Good insights.
With magnum loads, particles can get under the DA ejector star which can hang up the cylinder. You are OK for six, but the reload can be a problem. For heavy loads, AA#9 does not have this problem, if you handload.
Nice tip.
I have had mixed results with PPU as well, Good video well explained for folks
Hey Jason, Ricky Ramirez wanted to pass his regards along to Mrs. Holster if you are still in contact.
@@LionquestFitness yes sir I try to message her at least once every couple weeks
Hi Greg, I never had a cylinder bind but I got close, due to fouling of the forcing cone. I had several failures to fire with rimfire ammo when it was not pressed all the way in the chamber, what happens then is that the hammer strike seats it properly, instead of igniting it (lesson learned: press those .22 all the way in). My 686 lost its single-action capability at one time, due to so much dry firing in double-action, the hammer wouldn't lock in the upper position and a gunsmith fixed the problem for me.
That is interesting about what happened to the 686.
@@LionquestFitness I guess stainless steel of the early nineties wasn't so hard, the fact of the matter is I learnt to shoot double action with that gun and I dry-fired it till I damaged it. Today I know better and I do my dry practice with an unloaded softair revolver that I can destroy and replace.
@@carloparisi9945 Not a bad plan.
I've never had or seen a quality revolver jam...I don't consider Taurus a quality gun....I have seen semi-autos jam....but it's rare...good video
You remind me of an FFL buddy of mine who I was telling about my Taurus 1911. He kept telling me that Taurus didn't make 1911's and I kept saying, no John I had one. Eventually I got what he was saying to me. 🙄
@@LionquestFitness The only pistols I've had trouble with in my life have been Taurus...Im sure there are some good ones...but I won't be buying anymore...thank you....enjoy your videos
Thanks !
This crap ammo isnt worth it..By the time you account for malfunctions, and way too much time cleaning it just doesnt add up..The increased time you are exposed to the nasty cleaning chemicals should send up red flags..IMO..
That PPU ammo appears to be 'crimpless'... 👀❗I'll never understand why they do this; the same reason I stay away from Armscor .357 Mag.
@carlosmorris4510 I've had good luck with PPU and Armscor in .357 and. 38, but we're not talking about 500 rounds or more.
Maybe PPU should change its name to P.U.
you mentioned your lever action rifles it would be nice to see you do a video with your rifles!!
In the works.
I have seen an old Taurus 82 jam
i have had autos not eject the case and jam it in the chamber so tight it had to be drove out with a rod autos are jamomatics
Wish i would have been able to watch this video before buying some PPU ammo for my 357, otherwise I wouldn't have bought it.
I won't buy Armscorp ammo because I was having crimp jump issues.
Seem like a lot of people commenting here have had problems with both PPU and Armscorp ammo.
A "jammed" revolver is out of the fight. A "jammed" semi-auto can probably be brought back into the fight.
I've only had one revolver "jam" and it was my fault, but my wife's grandfather (Deputy Sheriff) had both of his Model 19s lock up at different times, no idea why I never saw them myself.
You missed the point. A misfeed or hard primer can often be cleared. A catastrophic failure is one that cannot be cleared. A misfeed can be common. Revolvers don't require cartridges to travel from a magazine to a chamber. A catastrophic failure is not one that allows you to clear it either for a semi-auto or a revolver. Trying to compare a correctable feed issue in a semi-auto to a complete shutdown of any firearm, either semi-auto or revolver is two different things.
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Jam? Only in movies and tv. Jams are usuaĺly the result of poor maintainence.
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Got a Taurus 65 that's done that over a 24 year period a couple of times and that's what I ended up doing good gun just does that every now and then
I converted my revolvers to take Glock magazines… 😜😆😂🥲🤣
LOL!