Thanks Tony, a very useful technique indeed and splendid, clearly traditional products. Interesting to hear your voice after watching Native Clays. I stand in awe of your work. John Warner. Australia
Great video, really motivates me to try this technique. My mother made native pottery when I was a kid. She has went on to the next life. Now I want to carry on what she did. Thanks for the video. Your pottery looks great and it sure had a pretty ring sound when you tapped it.
Yes you can get higher temps with more charcoal or use lump charcoal instead. Also you can use a wire mesh cage instead of bricks. I think I used 15 pounds of charcoal maybe 20 pounds.
Great video Tony. I took your first class at Anza Borrego and loved it. You gave us paperwork explaining this kiln using a trash can. The video makes it easier to understand. Thank you.
That was great! Thank you so much for posting this. At school the only method without a store bought kiln was a wood based raku. this is brilliant! Absolutely gonna use this method. My niece and I are really impressed!
Great video of an awesome process. As a sculptor, I've been wanting a way to pit fire larger works. This method should be perfect as it can be scaled up to do larger pieces. Super. Very well narrated and to the point. thanks.
Thank you for your prompt reply, I watched your other Video where you make the, Paddle and Anvil Pot, which I found most inspiring. I love the simplicity and beauty of the piece and the History behind it all. More importantly for me, was your natural talent and desire to Share and inspire (I'm 73 by the way and you certainly inspired me to take up my Clay working again) and hope that you don't have to Artistically starve to often as it would be a great loss to lose someone of your nature. All the best to you and thank you once again. 🙋♀️🌈🌞
That was AWESOME! Thank you so much for making this video. I'm just getting into pottery and I am thinking this will be a craft that will last the rest of my life.
I love this, and can't wait to try it. I've fired with charcoal before, using an old Weber charcoal grill. I put the pieces in coffee cans to protect them. Amazingly, everything fired up well and survived with no cracking! Warning: It pretty much destroys the Weber, so look for old ones, like at yard sales. The nice shiny finish will not survive!
I can't afford a Weber grill, but I do have a handcrafted grill made from an old box can. I cut an opening on the right base and then cut the metal off its left tall side.
Cool! I’ve done experiments with pit firing and found it challenging to get the temperature to rise and cool slowly. The flower pot is a smart idea. And charcoal must heat up nice and evenly.
It isn't a good idea to use galvanized iron in conjunction with heat because the zink melt's and becomes vaporized, therefore coating your lungs if you do a lot of it. I just thought of letting you know of this, just in case there are some people watching this and thinking of using a galvanized iron tank as a kiln instead of using bricks to build the kiln with.
Yeah, here comes the CZcams police; not only the temperature of the galvanized tank could not get hot enough but it was burned outdoor and if there was any vapor it would float away and quickly get dilute. Life would be much nicer without do gooders like you Barry Ducret "@Barry Ducret"
The zinc coating vaporizes and dissipates within the first few minutes of heat contact. As long as you aren't standing right over the fire huffing the smoke you'll probably be fine.
now here's a technique I can use in my backyard!! do have a couple questions.... How long do your bricks last? will they tend to break over time? Would it be better to use firebrick? Does the "non-briquette" type charcoal (lump & fragmented charcoal) work with this method? does it have to be charcoal; I have access to a large volume of wood chips (I have a wood lathe) and could easily fill the space with hardwood fragments and lathe curls; would they get hot enough while also giving a reducing atmosphere?? If I don't have a large metal container to cover it...would it work to seal it up with earth and clay? (with that idea in mind, would putting it down in a pit help with that aspect?) Definately going to have to give this a try!!
Watch how this guy did it...it's amazing! czcams.com/video/OZtWewsZAsI/video.html He has a pit and uses sawdust so should be perfect for you. Make sure you video it and share with us all. I'd love to see the results!
I use a chocolate brown clay for my black, it fires black in reduction. If I want a black on oxidation I use 75 percent manganese dioxide , 25 percent chrysocolla or copper carbonate, and just enough chocolate brown clay to make the paint stick. The minerals must be fired first in rock form or powder form, then water sifted to get the finest materials then fine chocolate clay.
thanks for sharing this. I will set it up for the next full moon in 14 th days!!;) epic work... So it sounds like you went up to 1200 and more...how much charcoal ? do you think that in oxygen firing (no bell) will be similar temp? Blessings
Awesome ... so when you fire like that are they " food safe" ..also will they still absorb water ?? Thinking of starting to throw again but have no kiln, I'm wanting to make water retentive dishes and drink ware.. can you help ? Thanks ..and again awesome vid. And from the looks of it awesome home...
Hello there, do you think maybe I would be able to fire White Stoneware in such a kiln as you have built in this very well put together and informative Video.
The tub acts like the dirt if they were buried keeping the white slip white and the black paint black. They may have turned a buff color with brown paint without putting the tub over them.
Thank you very much for this video. I have long been looking for a video that shows how to get high in temperature. Do you have other methods where you can get up to 1200 + c
Depends on the clay, I have a clay that doesn’t need preheat, those pots I think I put in the oven at 400F for an hour or so to get them passed r tree he point where they pop. You can let them cool and then set up your fire
I bet if you added a long steal pipe attach to a hair dryer leading to the center of the kiln you could probably get much higher temperatures, I’ve seen some DIY blacksmiths it.
No they have only been warmed in the house oven to 450 F to get rid of any moisture. They are not glazed so technically not food safe but they used them just fine back in the day.
Thah stove I want to make: 《Pablo Sotto heater with oven》I think is not so good if we put cement inside, but I am not sure, because my english is not perfect 😢 The place wich I am living is very cold and I need a good stove. The fire bricks in my country is realy cost to much but I found red earth very chip and I think I can make fire bricks because I have place to do that in my farm. Thanks you give your time for me.
I am new to firing my own pottery. The pots you are firing here how long have they air dried before you fire them? Is this a bisque firing? Or a glaze firing?
This would be a low firing if you were talking commercial clays. My clays get close to vitrification at these temperatures. I’m not using many glaze paints. Maybe a galena or a frit from time to time. Temps reach 1600 to 1700 from time to time depending on fire method
Clay will always be porous and less you use a glaze . They didn’t use much glaze back in the day the water would just sweat out and cool the water on the inside.
If you added a lot more charcoal you might get to come .06 which is 1800F . Low fire in the commercial clay world. Lead glaze for sure tho. Welcome to clay 😀
The galvanized trough does not burn in this process, not a good idea to breathe anything with the pottery process especially clay and ash or any fumes.
Valeria Wicker I built it out of some mesh from the welding store. It is a bit of work! You might find an old metal mil crate or something metal bucket and punch a bunch of wholes in it. I did preheat the pots in the over to 450F for an hour
@@tonysoaresnativeclays1434 Thank you so much! Ok, I got some experimental piece drying. One more question about the mesh. Do I have to use it? Can I just use a metal bucket with a hole on the top? If I am understanding correctly the mesh is only to keep the pieces from moving around,right? I was going to start with small pinched pots and slab work. Thank you so much again!🙏
@@tonysoaresnativeclays1434 Hi Tony I have my little kiln and material ready for the firing. I am SO excited to try this! Will attempt it tomorrow. I only have one more question if it's ok. How long should I preheat the pottery in the oven for (what temperature?)? And do the have to be still hot when I place them in the kiln? Over here is still chilly during the day and I am scared of thermal shock when I transport the pottery outside to the kiln. Thank you SO much for your time! I appreciate it so much!
I am 16 and really branching off from painting portraits to sculpting with handmade clay. Can I use sticks? I don’t have charcoal and my mom doesn’t have money to buy bags of it right now
Andy Ward recommended we watch this video. Thank you so much! It looks like something I can actually do.🐝🤗❤️
Enjoyed watching this. Sometimes we forget that kilns do not have to be electric.
Thank you for showing us how to build a kiln! ❤
I'm a metal artist and I have always wanted to combine the two art forms together. Now that I've seen this I'm going to do it. Thanks for the video!
Tony Brother is this inside your house and what do you use for the black and white slip
Sorry I see now that's out side furniture
Down to earth, knowledgeable presentation...even a greenie can follow along with what you do. Well done!
Thanks Tony, a very useful technique indeed and splendid, clearly traditional products. Interesting to hear your voice after watching Native Clays. I stand in awe of your work. John Warner. Australia
Great video, really motivates me to try this technique. My mother made native pottery when I was a kid. She has went on to the next life. Now I want to carry on what she did. Thanks for the video. Your pottery looks great and it sure had a pretty ring sound when you tapped it.
This is so great! Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I live in a city and can't have an open pit fire, this is a great low-key alternative.
Yes you can get higher temps with more charcoal or use lump charcoal instead. Also you can use a wire mesh cage instead of bricks. I think I used 15 pounds of charcoal maybe 20 pounds.
Great results. I never thought that so few charcoal briquets could do such a good job. Economical and easy to make.
Yup charcoal burns hotter then wood
@@tonysoaresnativeclays1434 thank you.
I knew this could work.
Thank you!
Thank you, Tony! And thanks for the details of firing time (3.5 hours, +@8 hours 'cool down'), and temperature reached (1200^^degrees).
Can it reach temperatures of 2400 degrees Fahrenheit?
Thumbs up Tony! Love watching you work - Cherylene
Thanks a lot for this. Been trying to figure out how to fire my clay for ages.
Great video Tony. I took your first class at Anza Borrego and loved it. You gave us paperwork explaining this kiln using a trash can. The video makes it easier to understand. Thank you.
That was great! Thank you so much for posting this. At school the only method without a store bought kiln was a wood based raku. this is brilliant! Absolutely gonna use this method. My niece and I are really impressed!
Great video of an awesome process. As a sculptor, I've been wanting a way to pit fire larger works. This method should be perfect as it can be scaled up to do larger pieces. Super. Very well narrated and to the point. thanks.
Thank you so much for your video. I've been looking for an economical pottery kiln to make. This is perfect! Have a great day!!!!
Thank you for your prompt reply, I watched your other Video where you make the, Paddle and Anvil Pot, which I found most inspiring. I love the simplicity and beauty of the piece and the History behind it all.
More importantly for me, was your natural talent and desire to Share and inspire (I'm 73 by the way and you certainly inspired me to take up my Clay working again) and hope that you don't have to Artistically starve to often as it would be a great loss to lose someone of your nature.
All the best to you and thank you once again.
🙋♀️🌈🌞
Amazing I just make it every month. Sometimes things are very lean and sometimes I have plenty. I just save for the droughts 😜 thank you 🙏🏼
Thanks for the video Tony,that's a nice kiln for those in a budget, great video
Ive been looking at many methods of doing this and as i have mobility and strength issues, this seems quit feasible for me. Thank you so much!
Thank you for being on youtube showing and explaining so much - maybe you like to know I am following your videos from Germany
That was AWESOME! Thank you so much for making this video.
I'm just getting into pottery and I am thinking this will be a craft that will last the rest of my life.
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I love this, and can't wait to try it. I've fired with charcoal before, using an old Weber charcoal grill. I put the pieces in coffee cans to protect them. Amazingly, everything fired up well and survived with no cracking! Warning: It pretty much destroys the Weber, so look for old ones, like at yard sales. The nice shiny finish will not survive!
I can't afford a Weber grill, but I do have a handcrafted grill made from an old box can. I cut an opening on the right base and then cut the metal off its left tall side.
Cool! I’ve done experiments with pit firing and found it challenging to get the temperature to rise and cool slowly. The flower pot is a smart idea. And charcoal must heat up nice and evenly.
Nice! been thinking of firing with briquettes for a while.
Very informative and entertaining. Really enjoy your presentation. Thanks for sharing.
Amazing! Thank you ❤️
It isn't a good idea to use galvanized iron in conjunction with heat because the zink melt's and becomes vaporized, therefore coating your lungs if you do a lot of it. I just thought of letting you know of this, just in case there are some people watching this and thinking of using a galvanized iron tank as a kiln instead of using bricks to build the kiln with.
Yeah, here comes the CZcams police; not only the temperature of the galvanized tank could not get hot enough but it was burned outdoor and if there was any vapor it would float away and quickly get dilute. Life would be much nicer without do gooders like you Barry Ducret "@Barry Ducret"
The zinc coating vaporizes and dissipates within the first few minutes of heat contact. As long as you aren't standing right over the fire huffing the smoke you'll probably be fine.
Did enjoy ! Thanks for sharing your process ☺️
Good stuff. Easy to follow.
Nice video, thank you for sharing! Greetings from Melbourne, Australia. 👋
Hello to you !😀
Beautiful I really enjoyed this thank you so much
A useful technique, nice results from a setup that uses widely available materials.
What an idea, it's sensational, I could use this method for my pottery, it's great and awesome, luv it, thank you for sharing.
this was really interesting. you have a lot more energy than i do. :)
This is very cool!! A very useful skill if trouble comes in the future! Thank you for sharing! May Jesus greatly bless you 🙏!
Dude you are a god!
now here's a technique I can use in my backyard!! do have a couple questions.... How long do your bricks last? will they tend to break over time? Would it be better to use firebrick? Does the "non-briquette" type charcoal (lump & fragmented charcoal) work with this method? does it have to be charcoal; I have access to a large volume of wood chips (I have a wood lathe) and could easily fill the space with hardwood fragments and lathe curls; would they get hot enough while also giving a reducing atmosphere??
If I don't have a large metal container to cover it...would it work to seal it up with earth and clay? (with that idea in mind, would putting it down in a pit help with that aspect?) Definately going to have to give this a try!!
Watch how this guy did it...it's amazing! czcams.com/video/OZtWewsZAsI/video.html He has a pit and uses sawdust so should be perfect for you. Make sure you video it and share with us all. I'd love to see the results!
Very cool. You are very creative and intelligent. Thanks for the video hun.
thank you for sharing this.
Loving the vids and learning a lot👍✌️🌵
This is the answer I needed
Very interesting way. Love it!
Thanks
Thank you!
No I preheat in my oven at 450 F for an hour with some clays, some I don’t need too
Just found you and subscribed.
Great video. Thanks
Absolutely Wonderful!
Very interesting. I loved it!!
Thank you that was very interesting. All the best to you and your family.
Very interesting, enjoyed watching
Now that's brilliant. Thanks for video
I use a chocolate brown clay for my black, it fires black in reduction. If I want a black on oxidation I use 75 percent manganese dioxide , 25 percent chrysocolla or copper carbonate, and just enough chocolate brown clay to make the paint stick. The minerals must be fired first in rock form or powder form, then water sifted to get the finest materials then fine chocolate clay.
thank you for sharing , amazing.now we have use for our home made charcoal
Awesome video mate, love your little kiln there, It worked very well. Liked and subscribed. 👍
I am wondering if I can do this in my metal fire pit?
thanks for sharing this. I will set it up for the next full moon in 14 th days!!;) epic work... So it sounds like you went up to 1200 and more...how much charcoal ? do you think that in oxygen firing (no bell) will be similar temp? Blessings
Do you bisque in an electric kiln?
I want to know where and when your next class will be. Lovely.
Not sure, might be at Idyllwild Arts next June or July
nice job, thanks for sharing
excellent - thank you
When you fire the pot again will the carbonization burn off?
Yes
@@tonysoaresnativeclays1434 does it need to get as hot for the carbonization to burn off, or will it do so at a lower temperature?
@@evelynlamoy8483great question!
that was freakin' amazing~
Awesome ... so when you fire like that are they " food safe" ..also will they still absorb water ?? Thinking of starting to throw again but have no kiln, I'm wanting to make water retentive dishes and drink ware.. can you help ? Thanks ..and again awesome vid. And from the looks of it awesome home...
They are not food safe but that is what everyone ate out of back in the day. You can put some corn oil in them ant that helps seal the pores
Thank you for the video! It makes me feel like I can do that. There are many types of clay. What type did you use?
I dig all my clays in the desert here in SoCal
Thanks for the interesting video!
What were those red bricks?
Those are red clay bricks from Home Depot, nothing special😀
Hello there, do you think maybe I would be able to fire White Stoneware in such a kiln as you have built in this very well put together and informative Video.
I believe that is some hot firing stuff. It would just be a bisc firing
Great video. What shop bought clay would you recommend for home firing like this ?
You might try 100 White from Laguna clay, you might have to wedge some sand into it
Great video thanks. Are these pots food and moisture safe after firing? Gratitude and thanks.
They used to be, not considered safe now. They are not glazed so they will seep out moisture
Nice video, thanks. How would the pots have turned out differently if you did not cover them with the big tub to cut off the oxygen?
The tub acts like the dirt if they were buried keeping the white slip white and the black paint black. They may have turned a buff color with brown paint without putting the tub over them.
@@tonysoaresnativeclays1434 Thanks, are you using an organic paint or manganese?
@@6bonjour I use mostly mineral paints, I fool with plant base paints some times
would this work with a smaller kiln that would need less charcoal if you are only doing small pots or would it not get hot enough?
not sure if this is a stupid question or not but are the vessels waterproof after this firing or would you still need a second firing? Im new to this.
Any clay that does not have a glazed surface will not be water proof, just water resistant 😀
Very nice ,good job🙏👍
Where can one find a pot like the one you used to cover the pots in the video? Thanks in advance🤙🏽
How do you make your colors on your pottery? Thanks
Thank you very much for this video. I have long been looking for a video that shows how to get high in temperature. Do you have other methods where you can get up to 1200 + c
850 C is about as high as I go I think, 1600 to 1800 F in these small kilns
Do you have to bisque fire your pottery before sintering with this kiln? Or is it just air dried, then fired as you show here?
Depends on the clay, I have a clay that doesn’t need preheat, those pots I think I put in the oven at 400F for an hour or so to get them passed r tree he point where they pop. You can let them cool and then set up your fire
I bet if you added a long steal pipe attach to a hair dryer leading to the center of the kiln you could probably get much higher temperatures, I’ve seen some DIY blacksmiths it.
Have you ever tried piling more briquettes on to achieve a cone 5 or 6?
I’m sure it could get hotter with more briquettes and a bit more updraft
Have these pieces been fired once before this firing? would these be food safe ?
No they have only been warmed in the house oven to 450 F to get rid of any moisture. They are not glazed so technically not food safe but they used them just fine back in the day.
Hey Tony, did you develop this technique yourself?
cool!
holyshit, awesome
Thah stove I want to make: 《Pablo Sotto heater with oven》I think is not so good if we put cement inside, but I am not sure, because my english is not perfect 😢 The place wich I am living is very cold and I need a good stove. The fire bricks in my country is realy cost to much but I found red earth very chip and I think I can make fire bricks because I have place to do that in my farm. Thanks you give your time for me.
I am new to firing my own pottery. The pots you are firing here how long have they air dried before you fire them? Is this a bisque firing? Or a glaze firing?
This would be a low firing if you were talking commercial clays. My clays get close to vitrification at these temperatures. I’m not using many glaze paints. Maybe a galena or a frit from time to time. Temps reach 1600 to 1700 from time to time depending on fire method
Hey Tony, I've been going through the comments and I'd like to know if that's C or F degrees your talking about?
Nice.
Nice video. Is that outside on your porch?
Backyard 😀
Firing with this method would it be possible to make water jugs? Or would the clay still be too porous ?
Clay will always be porous and less you use a glaze . They didn’t use much glaze back in the day the water would just sweat out and cool the water on the inside.
@@tonysoaresnativeclays1434 good to know! Thank you.
Is this method hot enough to glaze the pots? I am new to this sort of thing
If you added a lot more charcoal you might get to come .06 which is 1800F . Low fire in the commercial clay world. Lead glaze for sure tho. Welcome to clay 😀
@@tonysoaresnativeclays1434 Thanks, I am new to this art form.
Do you keep the fuel off the clay for color or to keep it from breaking?
With that type of pottery you keep the fuel away so you don’t mess up the paint job. Other Clay I keep the fuel on to give it fire clouds
@@tonysoaresnativeclays1434 Thanks! I plan to smother my pieces to blacken them anyway.
@@ilchickentv340 cool best to use powdered horse manure then dirt on top of that.
Can this be made hot enough to fire ash glazed pottery?
It only gets to about 1800 F or cone .06 . I think that ash glaze is a bit hotter
The galvanized trough does not burn in this process, not a good idea to breathe anything with the pottery process especially clay and ash or any fumes.
What gauge wire do you use for your containment structure?
3/4 I think, it is a bear to bend and very sharp, also expensive now
Perhaps a silly question, the pots in this fire were greenware or bisqueware?
I preheated to 400 F then let cool down then placed them in the firing
12:48 is a beautiful sound
thank you
This looks so easy! Where did you get the cage or the material to make it? And are the pots already bisque fired or bone dry?
Valeria Wicker I built it out of some mesh from the welding store. It is a bit of work! You might find an old metal mil crate or something metal bucket and punch a bunch of wholes in it. I did preheat the pots in the over to 450F for an hour
@@tonysoaresnativeclays1434 Thank you so much! Ok, I got some experimental piece drying. One more question about the mesh. Do I have to use it? Can I just use a metal bucket with a hole on the top? If I am understanding correctly the mesh is only to keep the pieces from moving around,right? I was going to start with small pinched pots and slab work. Thank you so much again!🙏
Valeria Wicker a bucket or cover shards or right in the fire, I alway experiment with all kinds of stuff, just don’t breathe galvanized bucket smoke!!
@@tonysoaresnativeclays1434 Thank you immensely!
@@tonysoaresnativeclays1434 Hi Tony I have my little kiln and material ready for the firing. I am SO excited to try this! Will attempt it tomorrow. I only have one more question if it's ok. How long should I preheat the pottery in the oven for (what temperature?)? And do the have to be still hot when I place them in the kiln? Over here is still chilly during the day and I am scared of thermal shock when I transport the pottery outside to the kiln. Thank you SO much for your time! I appreciate it so much!
I wanted to start pottery making but had no kiln this may just be the answer
Thanks Jack Black
I am 16 and really branching off from painting portraits to sculpting with handmade clay. Can I use sticks? I don’t have charcoal and my mom doesn’t have money to buy bags of it right now
Yes there are many ways to fire. I have a few different videos on firing. Also check out Andy wards videos
Yes