Spears are better than swords (longer version)

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  • čas přidán 22. 09. 2018
  • The longer version of the tests of spear versus other weapons. All of all 65 bouts, plus extra commentary.
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Komentáře • 11K

  • @littlesherlock2313
    @littlesherlock2313 Před 3 lety +9970

    The spear was so good that even when we got guns, we just turned them into spears again with bayonets.

    • @littlesherlock2313
      @littlesherlock2313 Před 3 lety +264

      Alexander Hodson having held an entrenching tool myself, I do not want to get hit with one of those

    • @tree_ee
      @tree_ee Před 3 lety +24

      @@rangerx373 what do you have against French people?

    • @alexmalyarchuk1723
      @alexmalyarchuk1723 Před 3 lety +270

      @@tree_ee shovel, I guess.

    • @thejupitergod5687
      @thejupitergod5687 Před 3 lety +16

      Alexander Krause where the only sharp bit is the end of the gun where the bayonet is placed?

    • @fiona9891
      @fiona9891 Před 3 lety +49

      @@thejupitergod5687 A sword with a really long handle and really short blade.

  • @YungSettings
    @YungSettings Před 3 lety +3544

    People also often forget that spears require a lot less metal to forge, which makes it much easier to mass produce and arm a medieval army.

    • @user-xj7ze3bv3c
      @user-xj7ze3bv3c Před 3 lety +16

      Did you even watch the video, because they said it at the start.

    • @YungSettings
      @YungSettings Před 3 lety +274

      @@user-xj7ze3bv3c I'm pretty sure they didn't mention production and logistics at all in the video though, only its effectiveness in combat. Did you even watch the video?

    • @milkpouch
      @milkpouch Před 3 lety +3

      sheeeeeeeesh

    • @arsalan2231
      @arsalan2231 Před 3 lety +70

      @@user-xj7ze3bv3c Congratulations, you played yourself.

    • @user-xj7ze3bv3c
      @user-xj7ze3bv3c Před 3 lety +18

      @@YungSettings he did: 1:04

  • @Adam_okaay
    @Adam_okaay Před 3 lety +988

    I think a 64% win rate with a tremendous disparity in spear skill shows quite a lot in context.

    • @darrylviljoen6227
      @darrylviljoen6227 Před 2 lety +18

      Yes, context is very important.

    • @imgvillasrc1608
      @imgvillasrc1608 Před 2 lety +64

      Goes to show how the spear is an incredibly efficient weapon.

    • @fortissears5388
      @fortissears5388 Před rokem +43

      If you're against a spear while wielding a shorter weapon, considering just a lucky poke in the face from the enemy is enoughto disable YOU, it's like you have to throw dice to see IF you even GET to attack - even if you're good with whatever implement of bloodshed you happen to use.

    • @ericolens3
      @ericolens3 Před rokem +9

      But when they invaded a village. Armor would be great to have to nullify the spears pointy end.
      And as long as there wasn't another militia or army, they could easily vanquish the foe's feeble wooden weapons with even half decent armor and metal weapons.

    • @zachrabaznaz7687
      @zachrabaznaz7687 Před rokem +71

      @@ericolens3 swords wouldn't do shit against armor either. Then you move on to war picks, halberds, pole hammers/poleaxes, etc. Notice something? They would all still have the spear pointy bit on the end and have no elements of sword.

  • @stresseddeku7347
    @stresseddeku7347 Před 2 lety +717

    "What a man lacks in style he can make up for with extreme violence" had me cracking XD

  • @flashfm7456
    @flashfm7456 Před 4 lety +6456

    "The pen is mightier than the sword." True, if you enlarge the pen considerably and sharpen the nib.

    • @JohnDoe-qu2dr
      @JohnDoe-qu2dr Před 4 lety +182

      @Falkrim Or you make it a pencil and hand it over to John Wick.

    • @damiester1
      @damiester1 Před 4 lety +82

      Or you write a convincing piece that converts all citizens to your side.

    • @JaguarBST
      @JaguarBST Před 4 lety +5

      I genuinely laughed out loud

    • @sbhattacharya7389
      @sbhattacharya7389 Před 4 lety +5

      @@JohnDoe-qu2dr lmao I just watched John wick

    • @JohnDoe-qu2dr
      @JohnDoe-qu2dr Před 4 lety +1

      @@sbhattacharya7389 lol

  • @clarkzhang4665
    @clarkzhang4665 Před 4 lety +2086

    “The main problem with this method is that it doesn’t work.”

    • @cincrlatko
      @cincrlatko Před 4 lety +9

      draw back :D but yeah great one !

    • @saber2802
      @saber2802 Před 4 lety +54

      *laughs in Greek hoplites*

    • @ViljamiK0
      @ViljamiK0 Před 4 lety +7

      @@saber2802 greek hoplites didnt exactly use it, maybe against cavalry when thrusting at the rider.

    • @APerson-ws4cw
      @APerson-ws4cw Před 4 lety +10

      'Come back here!'
      'No!'

    • @Jon-ov4nc
      @Jon-ov4nc Před 4 lety +21

      No, hoplites made up the majority of the ancient Greek armies (which meant they mostly fought other hoplites) and they fought in phalanx formation presenting a shield wall and rows of thousands of spearheads. Casualties during the battle itself were usually very minimal. Most battle deaths occurred only after the losers formation had been broken or outflanked, and their army were routing.

  • @SA_Vengarr
    @SA_Vengarr Před 3 lety +196

    There was a quote from Plutarch about how young men gravitated to the sword seeking personal glory--and how, if they survived long enough, they would inevitably take up the spear.

    • @alexyosleonhart
      @alexyosleonhart Před rokem +7

      Hi, brother! You can tell me where i can find this quote? (Sorry, english is not my native language)

    • @aekaralagonisi
      @aekaralagonisi Před 11 měsíci +9

      @@alexyosleonhartYou might find all the Plutarch accounts online somewhere in English idk

  • @goji3908
    @goji3908 Před 3 lety +1044

    Keep in mind that most of these guys don't have a lot of experience with a spear, they are experts in swords.
    And yet the spearmen did better in most situations than the swordsmen.

    • @texascultdeity8904
      @texascultdeity8904 Před 3 lety +86

      Sword expertise isnt that useful.
      Because its sword vs spear fighting against a spear requires a very different set of skills which are not properly learned in sword vs sword.
      They are about equal.

    • @texascultdeity8904
      @texascultdeity8904 Před 3 lety +17

      Many people need to be specifically trained to face spears.

    • @kaelhazard-4171
      @kaelhazard-4171 Před 3 lety +52

      Imo, spear is like primary weapon and sword is like secondary weapon. Like when u bring AK but then u lost it, you switch to Pistol. Spear is effectice but not practical to carry, also easier to disarm especially when the wielder is not experienced. While sword is not effective but simple and practical. Easy to carry around.

    • @goji3908
      @goji3908 Před 3 lety +6

      @@kaelhazard-4171 Plus a spear is like a long ranged weaponish thing, while a sword is very close range weapon

    • @kaelhazard-4171
      @kaelhazard-4171 Před 3 lety +16

      @@texascultdeity8904 most people know about spear advantages. U know it's range. Like in this vid. They know and can proof that getting close to the range is their weakness. But still... Lot of 'em fail in the trial.

  • @gilbertthegreat89
    @gilbertthegreat89 Před 4 lety +3821

    After thousands of years of weapon development. A pointy stick, the first weapon man created, is still one of the best.

    • @fidget0227
      @fidget0227 Před 4 lety +424

      Wellllll among melee weapons, sure. That whole “gun powder” and “nuclear bomb” phase changed the playing field.

    • @user-zz7le5qc6x
      @user-zz7le5qc6x Před 4 lety +292

      @@fidget0227 that's OP and doesn't count/

    • @JohnnyCasey
      @JohnnyCasey Před 4 lety +319

      The bayonet is basically a modernized spear, and it's still being used at some part of the army. If you think of it this way, the spear truly is an all time weapon.

    • @McNab1986
      @McNab1986 Před 4 lety +91

      @@JohnnyCasey If you look at most bayonet drills, they involve spear thrusts, and movement

    • @BIGRED47
      @BIGRED47 Před 4 lety +38

      First weapon was a blunt stick but close guess

  • @yuriyromaniw6629
    @yuriyromaniw6629 Před 5 lety +6471

    "... He forms a plan... And he's dead."
    Perhaps a good way to sum up human existence.

    • @ESFAndy011
      @ESFAndy011 Před 5 lety +260

      That was so depressing and hilarious at the same time...

    • @LJ-ej3fv
      @LJ-ej3fv Před 5 lety +53

      "Big, scary swings!... and he's skewered."
      Yup, humanity in a nutshell.

    • @westwindsailer
      @westwindsailer Před 5 lety +40

      "Man plans....
      God laughs"

    • @justsomecreatureofthisearth
      @justsomecreatureofthisearth Před 5 lety +11

      XD I lost it at that one.
      And I went straight to the comments and I was right: the 2nd comment was someone else who had noticed how funny that one was.

    • @iktanmiztonton3477
      @iktanmiztonton3477 Před 5 lety +4

      Srithor It's funny how the Joker was a schemer too.

  • @stargazer162
    @stargazer162 Před 3 lety +301

    The spear is such a simple and effective weapon, no wonder it stood the test of time so well. It's the most intuitive way to make a weapon, just grab a really long stick and put a pointy thing on one end.

    • @williamhuynh869
      @williamhuynh869 Před 2 lety +13

      In fact, a trident is basically a spear with 3 heads

    • @krieger8825
      @krieger8825 Před 2 lety +24

      @@williamhuynh869 and is useless for mass production and is terrible to use

    • @WraithBassTabs
      @WraithBassTabs Před 2 lety +8

      @@williamhuynh869 just use a pitchfork lel

    • @liamquraeshi2898
      @liamquraeshi2898 Před 2 lety +28

      @@krieger8825 Which is why it's designed for spearfishing instead of combat.

    • @krieger8825
      @krieger8825 Před 2 lety +5

      @@liamquraeshi2898 Indeed, the king of the sea has to catch fish manually

  • @nslater1388
    @nslater1388 Před 2 lety +52

    “The sword is the Prince of all weapons. But the spear is the King!”

  • @JohnSmith-vg6hb
    @JohnSmith-vg6hb Před 5 lety +8011

    If only we'd done this instead of football at school

    • @MrCrashDavi
      @MrCrashDavi Před 5 lety +85

      +

    • @edi9892
      @edi9892 Před 5 lety +326

      It's a far better workout than soccer.

    • @gone8913
      @gone8913 Před 5 lety +356

      If only we learned how history was instead of the lies they teach and how to protect our own race and culture

    • @jimnickles2347
      @jimnickles2347 Před 5 lety +16

      This

    • @josephgroves3176
      @josephgroves3176 Před 5 lety +42

      John Smith yes! I would have actually enjoyed pe then:)

  • @AnonymousOnimous
    @AnonymousOnimous Před 3 lety +1415

    "The only problem with this technique is that it doesn't work." If Monty Python did medieval combat reenactment.

  • @TheDakkaman
    @TheDakkaman Před 3 lety +445

    2:31 “Huge treatises have been written on using [swords]!”
    Aye, because a sword’s so useless you need several dissertations to figure out how to make it work.
    *drops spear-shaped mic, assumes t-pose with spear to elongate arms*

    • @darraarljod8911
      @darraarljod8911 Před 2 lety +39

      Assert dominance with chad spear

    • @joshsampson4461
      @joshsampson4461 Před 2 lety +71

      Spear Treatise:
      "1. Stab high.
      2. If you don't hit, stab low.
      3. If you still don't hit, return to step 1"

    • @thedictationofallah
      @thedictationofallah Před 2 lety

      Spears then went out of use in the 18th century. And the Bayonet was shorter and much more vulnerable to swords like Spadroons.

    • @JJ-qo7th
      @JJ-qo7th Před rokem +12

      Alternative explanation: Treatises were written because the people who were buying swords were the people who were well-off enough to read, both because they were able and because they had the free time to sit around playing with weapons. Or, sure, it was their job.

  • @quirinoguy8665
    @quirinoguy8665 Před 2 lety +298

    "A Sword and Spear may be strong, but my Nuclear Arsenal is stronger."
    -Mahatma Gandhi

  • @egg_runner8379
    @egg_runner8379 Před 4 lety +1414

    "he has shown that what a man may lack in style he can make up for with extreme violence"
    I think this is one of my favourite quotes

    • @sakasgooplab9711
      @sakasgooplab9711 Před 4 lety +22

      Doom guys mantra

    • @josefaksoy42
      @josefaksoy42 Před 3 lety +15

      Mongolians approved this message

    • @declanwalton5125
      @declanwalton5125 Před 3 lety +5

      this is gonna be my high school quote

    • @guyd7924
      @guyd7924 Před 3 lety

      Josef Aksoy tbh they didn’t lack the style, just remember how they made feast on top of captured Russian nobles

    • @josefaksoy42
      @josefaksoy42 Před 3 lety

      Guyd (joke)

  • @SimicFishCrab
    @SimicFishCrab Před 4 lety +1946

    How we think we fight: Pink legs
    How we actually fight: Yellow socks

  • @arian2745
    @arian2745 Před 2 lety +98

    Whether you build your character as a two handed or one handed, you'll always end up being a sneak archer

  • @sayg1621
    @sayg1621 Před 3 lety +42

    6:47 “he forms a plan... and he’s dead” that was really funny!!

  • @Wertsir
    @Wertsir Před 3 lety +2855

    “Swords are the weapon of heroes, not a spear”
    Odin, Leonidas, Romulus, Izanami, Joshua, Cú Chulainn, and practically every character in the Illiad: Are you challenging me?”

  • @sammyjones6730
    @sammyjones6730 Před 5 lety +1360

    Looks like expression should really be "live by the sword, die by the spear"

    • @Tidushii
      @Tidushii Před 4 lety +78

      Yes spears are more effective weapons but the main reason it wasn't as popular is simple: it didn't allow you to end him rightly.

    • @dramaexterminatus
      @dramaexterminatus Před 4 lety +7

      @@Tidushii And also they are massively cumbersome

    • @cristiancardenas8002
      @cristiancardenas8002 Před 4 lety

      Eddie Blake nice reference 👍

    • @peternicholson8029
      @peternicholson8029 Před 4 lety +3

      those who live by the sword will get shot by those who dont

    • @scarletrose2880
      @scarletrose2880 Před 4 lety +1

      @bobby kotata that and it looks like once a swordsman closes that's it, there's only a small point of damage at the tip. It is a lot lighter than a greatsword though

  • @kwharrison6668
    @kwharrison6668 Před 3 lety +228

    Anyone who's played D&D knows the spear is an amazing weapon! Simple weapon, can be thrown, used to stab or used to brace.... and dirt cheap!

    • @Michael-gq9cd
      @Michael-gq9cd Před 2 lety +15

      Actually why I'm watching this video.. for inspiration! I'm building an Oathbreaker paladin right now that plans to use shield and spear one-handed with Polearm Master

    • @night-timestories915
      @night-timestories915 Před 2 lety +3

      Same reason watching this video. I am using the weapon length, speed factor and armor type tables in ad&d 1e.

    • @SleightCreative
      @SleightCreative Před rokem +1

      everyone says I'm crazy for taking spears when I play fighters but I just point them to this :P

    • @frungggg
      @frungggg Před rokem +1

      pam + sentinal go brrrr

    • @johns1625
      @johns1625 Před 11 měsíci

      And if it breaks you just have a club and a dagger

  • @relix7373
    @relix7373 Před 3 lety +50

    For most of history swords were merely a cavalry weapon or officer/nobility weapon (often roles which went hand in hand). They were made for slashing down at enemies in a charge. The vast majority of infantry were armed with spears, a useful defensive weapon. Most pre-modern battles were about maneuver, and whoever could get their cavalry around the other's infantry won.

  • @mostevil1082
    @mostevil1082 Před 5 lety +3283

    Double bonus points for the overly dramatic deaths.

    • @andrewfleenor7459
      @andrewfleenor7459 Před 5 lety +116

      They really made the video.

    • @Usammityduzntafraidofanythin
      @Usammityduzntafraidofanythin Před 5 lety +19

      Should get hired as choreographers

    • @KickyFut
      @KickyFut Před 5 lety +44

      Wow! Almost as dramatic as ⚽ players!😜

    • @flankyfranky3600
      @flankyfranky3600 Před 5 lety +4

      @@KickyFut your fucking right XD

    • @yomomz3921
      @yomomz3921 Před 5 lety +22

      Never done HEMA, but I've stepped into a boxing ring a few times. Even a 3 minute round is exhausting, so I think the drama in the falls is an honest expression of defeat in a state of being momentarily drained.

  • @davidharing6475
    @davidharing6475 Před 4 lety +1284

    Spears usually won, with FAR less training. That second part is really important I think and it's not addressed as much as I'd like.

    • @nev521
      @nev521 Před 4 lety +23

      spears won with less training, but so did the swords to be fair with no idea how to counter them

    • @vaderbuckeye36
      @vaderbuckeye36 Před 4 lety +54

      @Colin Cleveland thats how alexander's hoplites fought, they used a smaller shield than the greeks, but that allowed them to use the massive sarissa instead of a piddly greek hoplite's spear

    • @andrijaas2095
      @andrijaas2095 Před 4 lety +2

      @mayrana2 roman phalanxes ?

    • @andrijaas2095
      @andrijaas2095 Před 4 lety +2

      @mayrana2 I know what the phalanx is,I know greek and macedons used it,but didnt romans fight in legions with gladiuses and scutums(big shields)

    • @jameshammond1133
      @jameshammond1133 Před 4 lety +12

      yes gladius was a main staple of the roman army throughout but pre marian reforms (before the organisation into the legionnaires we know from films) the army consisted of the velites (skirmisher javilinmen), the hastati (younger less experienced less armoured gladius and shield), pricipes(older more exerienced heavier amroured gladius and shield) and lastly the triarii which where a phalenx with large shield and spear

  • @ismlamaroof6438
    @ismlamaroof6438 Před 3 lety +124

    Also add in that the gap grows even more when considering in war you're not running around doing 1 v 1 duels. You're in a formation so you have a whole from row, second row, and possibly a third row all sticking out a porcupine of spears (I think Alexander the Great's army had like 12-14 ft long spears, iirc).
    You can't swing a sword in a compact formation, but you can jab a spear forward quite well.

    • @texascultdeity8904
      @texascultdeity8904 Před 3 lety +13

      Pretty much 1v1 it comes down to whether the swordsman has experience against a spear.
      In mass formation q swordsman needs 2-3 meters to not cut his friend. In that space you can cram 5 or 6 spearmen.
      In a war each swordman would need to be able to 1v3 or 1v4

    • @deliq9607
      @deliq9607 Před 2 lety

      Ism La'maroof Romans conquered the world with their crappy little stabbing swords.

    • @cesarquint256
      @cesarquint256 Před rokem +4

      The phalanx was actually integrated to the Macedonian army by Alexander father Philip before alexander was even born iirc, the majority of the Macedonian army, discipline and structure was done by Phillip. The cavalry going full suicide bomb 😂 supporting the phalanx was more his personal tactic 😂

  • @SupaDanteX
    @SupaDanteX Před rokem +8

    "The main problem with this method, is that it doesn't work."
    Damn Lindy I was pouring a drink. Now I'm cleaning a mess. It's your fault man.
    Seriously your deadpan delivery of gold comedy is great.

  • @IpwnNublets
    @IpwnNublets Před 5 lety +437

    "Pink legs is using his spear overarm. The main problem with this method is that it doesn't work."

    • @arthas640
      @arthas640 Před 5 lety +18

      Some African tribes wielded spears overhand like that sometimes, but they'd use shields that weren't as tall as that Norman shield and they'd alterante between crouching down for defense or standing tall and stabbing over the enemies shield for offense. I think they did this because they didnt really use any armor beyond the shield but were fairly fast and agile so that system worked for them.

    • @SallinKari
      @SallinKari Před 5 lety +4

      I mean if you were planning on throwing at someones face maybe... but... yeah, not great to stab with...

    • @jamesfrankiewicz5768
      @jamesfrankiewicz5768 Před 5 lety +1

      It can work... if you use a thumb-forward grip so you can still high-guard, parry, or switch to low- or side-attacks.

    • @CryptoDatabase
      @CryptoDatabase Před 5 lety +6

      The African tribes even today still wield it overhand but that is because they normally chuck it at their enemies. There are documentaries of these village wars that Africans partake in often where they throw spears back and forth but they rarely cause death only minor injuries.
      Throwing a spear is pretty dumb though, the amount of power lost when it is thrown makes it ineffective even at close range when compared to the amount of power you can get with a thrust using your body weight.

    • @jasonguest5820
      @jasonguest5820 Před 5 lety +2

      The power they carry is still impressive though. Norse spears can go through tree trunks (on an episode of Deadliest Warrior from Spike tv.) and the Romans kept updating the spear through time, so throwing must have it's uses.

  • @nathanielwilliams3891
    @nathanielwilliams3891 Před 5 lety +342

    26:11 "The groin has huge stopping power." - Matt Easton, September 2018

    • @edi9892
      @edi9892 Před 5 lety +26

      I was an adventurer like you, but then I took a spear to the groin.

    • @kokofan50
      @kokofan50 Před 5 lety +6

      Well, just ask Mrs. Easton.

    • @KickyFut
      @KickyFut Před 5 lety +6

      Oh yeah! Just ask my girlfriend!!😁
      ... Um, don't ask my girlfriend.😓

    • @Lycurgus1982
      @Lycurgus1982 Před 5 lety +1

      Hilarious. All it takes is a graze.)

    • @GuitarsRockForever
      @GuitarsRockForever Před 5 lety +1

      Always restomp/restab/etc the groin.

  • @capoeirastronaut
    @capoeirastronaut Před 2 lety +20

    Saxons were named for their seaxes - which were a marker of status, like French for knight (chevalier) just meant horseman, but got associated with rank (knight just meant servant or attendent). Swords & seaxes can be carried about 'just in case', like when drinking, unlike spear and quarterstaffs. It's interesting Hrothgar's clan in Beowulf called themselves spear-Danes.

  • @lillyrose5428
    @lillyrose5428 Před 3 lety +50

    This was waaay more entertaining than i expected XD
    Also, the totally biased commentry is great!

  • @McNab1986
    @McNab1986 Před 4 lety +1061

    Zero spear classes, 40 sword classes. Safe to say all the spear users were complete novices then and they still out performed practiced amateur sword enthusiasts. Now imagine this test with a skilled and accomplished spearman

    • @kaisern6032
      @kaisern6032 Před 3 lety +75

      The point of the spear is to be easy to use

    • @CMKloser
      @CMKloser Před 3 lety +439

      @@kaisern6032 No, the point of a spear is the sharp part on one end.

    • @brickstonesonn9276
      @brickstonesonn9276 Před 3 lety +72

      Well, it sort of goes both ways. No spear classes also means that the swordsmen we're never trained in techniques for dealing with spearmen.

    • @libertyprime6932
      @libertyprime6932 Před 3 lety +34

      @@brickstonesonn9276 Yeah, thats the classic. South Paws tend to do better against Orthodox fighters because they are rare, they'll almost always be sparring against Orthodox whereas Orthodox will almost never be sparring against South Paw.

    • @billdenbrough9439
      @billdenbrough9439 Před 3 lety +3

      Well, that's exactly what militaries did think back then, from the middle age to all the XVI century, and even after

  • @jotarokujo5849
    @jotarokujo5849 Před 4 lety +3059

    How to win agaisnt a spearman:
    Ignore hits

    • @racoonnylord4343
      @racoonnylord4343 Před 4 lety +74

      ooooor don't bring a sword to a war, it doesn't cut through metal well, so people didn't do it. a better idea is to use a weapon like a billhook

    • @ASmartNameForMe
      @ASmartNameForMe Před 4 lety +118

      @@racoonnylord4343 or a mace (a knights worst nightmare

    • @racoonnylord4343
      @racoonnylord4343 Před 4 lety +9

      @@ASmartNameForMe that depends on what your calling a mace.

    • @XrayWasTaken
      @XrayWasTaken Před 4 lety +2

      Or wear any armour whatsoever.

    • @ASmartNameForMe
      @ASmartNameForMe Před 4 lety +33

      @@XrayWasTaken ANY armour might be pushing it...

  • @Chris_Sizemore
    @Chris_Sizemore Před 3 lety +7

    About 25 years ago I belonged to a group of madlads that took PVC pipes and foam insulation and made weapons from them. There were round about 200 of us. We did this for about a decade before things fell apart. We made shields, armor, used bows (very light draw bows), and made all sorts of weapons. Spears were popular, but a lone spearmen was a risky proposition. Looking at the swordsmen in this video was painful, because they are moving like they are fighting against a sword, when they are facing a spear.
    Swordsmen are trained to fight swordsmen. Usually using the exact same sword. Being able to advance and retreat at a moments notice is huge. Controlling the spacing is really important and you want to be as flexible as you can with your spacing so you can retreat when things go wrong, and close when you have the advantage. Swordsmen spend a lot of time working on footwork specifically for sword fighting.
    In a contest between spear and sword, the swordsmen needs to focus on getting past the point of the spear, and then closing until they reach their own effective range and never leave it. Using a big swing in a battle of swords is stupid. Big movements are a waste in sword fighting. But against a spear, you can afford to make big movements because you can't reach your opponent anyways, so who cares if your sword is not threatening your opponent as long as you can use that big stupid parry to physically get close enough your opponent with the spear can't hit you? Ideally a swordsmen wants his sword to push against the spear as you run up to the spearmen so they can't recover the spear and threaten you because you are using your entire body weight to control the spear. The swordsmen should abandon their usual footwork and posture to focus on literally running down the spearmen.
    A single sword vs a spear is a toss up. Experienced fighters who are use to the match up should be about 50/50. It really comes down to a single thrust. Spear vs Florentine (two weapons) the Florentine has a significant advantage. Not as much as a shield, but its strong. Sword and board versus Spear is really bad for the spear. Spear can take advantage of anything the opponent leaves open, but its easy to move a shield enough to block any gap if the shieldsmen is watching.
    Spears are best in a mixed melee. When you can stand along side a few allies you can take advantage of opponents that aren't paying attention to you thanks to the extra reach. When you get shield wall on shield wall the spears will rack up more kills than anyone else. Unless you get flanked. Then some guy with a sword/mace/club/beat stick will just decimate your line.
    And now I do reenactment stuff with a pike. And that is a whole different beast...

  • @marthlink5015
    @marthlink5015 Před 3 lety +18

    I was always in side with the spear, and then it can go into polearms which just wreck armor and some cleaves/bashing potential can off balance shielded users. BUT i really do appreciate how the shield and sword shows some huge weaknesses of spear users, especially if they MUST hold their ground or are in a formation which I haven't considered much.
    All in all this is a cool ass video and like how even though there is some bias, they put their mettle where their mouths are.

  • @feartheghus
    @feartheghus Před 5 lety +1255

    “What a man might lack in style he can make up for in extreme violence.” -lindybiege 2018

    • @keeperofthecheese
      @keeperofthecheese Před 5 lety +9

      Ah yes, the Kray Twins ideology!

    • @eddyguizonde401
      @eddyguizonde401 Před 5 lety +88

      "if you think violence doesn't solve problems, you're not using enough of it." as a wise and brutal man once said...

    • @G96Saber
      @G96Saber Před 5 lety +1

      Richardsons BTFO.

    • @shanerooney7288
      @shanerooney7288 Před 5 lety +19

      Sir Boris - The finest swordsman in the world.
      and his brother,
      Sir Morris - NOT the finest swordsman in the world, but the most enthusiastic.

    • @petem6755
      @petem6755 Před 5 lety +19

      “Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.” - Starship Troopers

  • @MorryOnTheFence
    @MorryOnTheFence Před 5 lety +151

    "The spear, the spear
    Greatest weapon in the land.
    Can't put it in your pocket,
    But can hold it in your hand."

    • @Ralchire
      @Ralchire Před 5 lety +2

      I thought this was going to be another episode in verse, like his dagger fighting video.

    • @Warmaka
      @Warmaka Před 5 lety +2

      Now the SPAFFSLIGGER on the other hand....

    • @Tommiart
      @Tommiart Před 5 lety +1

      Hey Morry...mind if we call you Bruce to keep it simple?
      Bruces forward!

    • @KunjaBihariKrishna
      @KunjaBihariKrishna Před 5 lety +3

      I just carry a knapsack filled with pommels.

    • @snookums01
      @snookums01 Před 5 lety

      Amen. Crack a tube.

  • @jellocudgel550
    @jellocudgel550 Před 2 lety +11

    I love how the presenter runs out of the way after each set up

  • @interestedlen8823
    @interestedlen8823 Před 3 lety +5

    Having come back to this after a few years... it's even better the second time around. Thanks guys.

  • @neravarmemesandareumadbro9790
    @neravarmemesandareumadbro9790 Před 5 lety +1414

    "the main problem with this method, is that it doesn't work" HAHAAA

    • @reptilesgamers00
      @reptilesgamers00 Před 5 lety +5

      why did none the guys try half swording

    • @Br1cht
      @Br1cht Před 5 lety +35

      @@reptilesgamers00 They did... did you not watch or did you smoke that reefer?

    • @SkippertheBart
      @SkippertheBart Před 5 lety +2

      Sassy, classy Englishmen. Never change.

    • @SkippertheBart
      @SkippertheBart Před 5 lety +2

      @Stefan Urban
      🎶The more you know.🎶

  • @thegreatupstage6814
    @thegreatupstage6814 Před 3 lety +161

    "What a man may lack in style he can make up for with Extreme Violence"

  • @willichtenstein7071
    @willichtenstein7071 Před 3 lety +42

    At 27:30 Lindy critiques that the spears were held in the middle rather than the end for maximum distance. When they were 2 handing yes, but that critique continued on to the 1 handing of a spear which is horribly wrong. The weight behind the hand is in essence the counter balance. Without counter weight the spear becomes incredibly unwieldy in the 1 hand. Which makes getting the spear knocked aside so much more punishing, and allowing the opponent to close easily. Even if used for the first jab its incredibly risky. Even if not knocked aside, the repositioning of the hand is an opening for the opponent to charge. As in that moment the spear cannot move to attack or defend.

    • @oilslick7010
      @oilslick7010 Před 2 lety +3

      Besides that, historical sources clearly depict lances and 1H spears held in the middle. Primary sources are prevalent, no matter how many nerds you put on a field in 2021 trying to 'prove' otherwise, that doesn't change

    • @taistelusammakko5088
      @taistelusammakko5088 Před 4 měsíci

      And he thought overarm is useless, most spear and shield users used it overarm

  • @arcalyte4905
    @arcalyte4905 Před 2 lety +47

    I think the spear would have had a much more clear victory if they had more experience with the weapon.

  • @jamesburk8145
    @jamesburk8145 Před 5 lety +1767

    i had no idea bucklers were so small. it's like someone was like "you know what would make a good defense? a dinner plate."

    • @willbordy
      @willbordy Před 5 lety +144

      they were good in dual's against rapiers and sabers sometimes even estoc's , swords that are main usually as trusting weapons ,if you manage to avoid the tip they can't just push the sword and slash you in the sides because there is no edge

    • @Felixrobinson
      @Felixrobinson Před 5 lety +54

      @@willbordy would it hurt for it to be a bit bigger tho..lol

    • @willbordy
      @willbordy Před 5 lety +64

      @@Felixrobinson you are just stopping the inicial force of a thrusting attack there is no need to make it bigger or heavier ,if you want to stop a attack of a real sword just use another shield

    • @adrianjezierski8093
      @adrianjezierski8093 Před 5 lety +18

      From my experience in fighting the bigger the shield is the more OP it is... One kite shield to rule them all .. ( ofc not only held by hand but with 2 straps of material to help your hand hold it)

    • @jaimetheone9150
      @jaimetheone9150 Před 5 lety +30

      I thought those were oversized wristwatches

  • @mattlawson714
    @mattlawson714 Před 3 lety +434

    I like how he runs away after introducing the combatants.

    • @MrZiggy-sk2wg
      @MrZiggy-sk2wg Před 3 lety +16

      theres two very deadly experienced soldiers about to do battle to the death escape was his only chance of survival

  • @wardygrub
    @wardygrub Před 11 měsíci +2

    12:42
    “Yellow socks, massive haymaker, dead”.
    The best sports commentary I’ve ever heard!

  • @Kane_the_Newschool_DM
    @Kane_the_Newschool_DM Před 2 lety +14

    Video: Obviously snarky, mostly for fun, two adults whinging about how swords are the default weapon in media
    Comment section: These 8 guys play-fighting in a backyard have recontexualized all of history and now I hate swords

  • @jonathanlewis6146
    @jonathanlewis6146 Před 3 lety +1744

    The entire history of weaponry:
    So we made a pointy stick, then a throwable pointy stick, then a smaller pointy stick that is ejected by a bow, and finally we said *fudge the stick and started cramming sharp things in a barrel full of explosives* - The End

    • @zenogias01
      @zenogias01 Před 3 lety +156

      It all boils down to angry apes waving sharp sticks and throwing rocks.

    • @epauletshark3793
      @epauletshark3793 Před 3 lety +49

      Now we advance to pointy metal bit shot realy fast with magnets.

    • @Luna-Lux
      @Luna-Lux Před 3 lety +30

      Actually, blunt things in a barrel full of explosives are much more dangerous (and most bullets are smooth/rounded on the end) the most nasty being lead balls, that hit bones and shatter them/ricochet inside the body and cause even more damage

    • @jonathanlewis6146
      @jonathanlewis6146 Před 3 lety +8

      @@Luna-Lux I was referring to grape shot but yes that is true.

    • @LOVEMUFFIN_official
      @LOVEMUFFIN_official Před 3 lety +32

      @@jonathanlewis6146 And then eventually we would make these explode-y things smaller, lighter, and more hand-held; but, then we would put metal points on the ends of them, turning them back into spears.

  • @mrandersson2009
    @mrandersson2009 Před 4 lety +85

    Imagine the adrenaline of real battles. Meeting an enemy knowing that in less than one minute one of you would be mortally wounded.
    I would prefer a crossbow and a good pair of running shoes.

    • @shootymcshootfacekoff7972
      @shootymcshootfacekoff7972 Před 3 lety +8

      I mean a crossbow is effective but why use sharp stick when have automatic kalashnikovs

    • @cronchtm4900
      @cronchtm4900 Před 2 lety +1

      Shootymcshootface Koff I mean a Kalashinkov is just a highly efficient sharp metal stick delivering method.

  • @AnonymoStranger
    @AnonymoStranger Před 3 lety +7

    This is my absolute favorite cross-over ever

  • @lukaslambs5780
    @lukaslambs5780 Před 2 lety +104

    Range advantage is just massive. Spears are the best, ESPECIALLY against poorly armored opponents. Against proper plate armor of the late Middle Ages and Renaissance however, the anti armor abilities of a mace or war hammer would be preferable.

    • @erwannthietart3602
      @erwannthietart3602 Před 2 lety +15

      And Even then, heavy armored opponents never were numerous and even them wouldnt charge a bunch of pointy sticks pointing toward if only because of the chance it might pierce or get into a weak point, spears are not really meant for duel (although they are efficient its likely that swordsman had/ have? strategy of their own against a single spearman), but for a fight between a bunch of people

    • @sirsanti8408
      @sirsanti8408 Před 2 lety +8

      In duels for sure, but in an army, especially in a formation a spear doesn’t need near as a much space to be used effectively as a sword or mace, you generally only stab and poke whereas with a sword and mace need big swings to be more effective. Although as a sidearm a mace would be nice

    • @szarekhthesilentking7043
      @szarekhthesilentking7043 Před 2 lety +3

      Let me introduce you to a thing that is slightly costlier than a spear, but incredibly good against armor. An halberd. Spike on the back to pierce armor or drag cavalry off of horses , blade on the front, spearhead in front. The disadvantages are it being heavier, and costing more than a sword. The advantages? Obvious.

    • @wolfensniper4012
      @wolfensniper4012 Před 2 lety

      I think that's what this test Lacks, if they use an armoured judging system instead of one-hit system, even without armour the spear only has around 60% advantage, if with armour, that makes melee weapon have more chances to get closer, It will be hard to say if spear still has such 60%.

    • @szarekhthesilentking7043
      @szarekhthesilentking7043 Před 2 lety +2

      @@wolfensniper4012 except if the spearman also has armor he has more time to aim for the gaps in the armor, while if the person with the melee weapon doesn't get the gap with the first swing, he will let the spearman go back again. If anything, armor is better for a spearman than a swordsman, even if a swordsman needs it more

  • @MrGoldenV
    @MrGoldenV Před 5 lety +960

    Obviously I’ll watch the longer version

    • @AtomicPeacenik
      @AtomicPeacenik Před 5 lety +18

      MrGoldenV There’s no choice but to start here and work backwards

    • @PerfectAlibi1
      @PerfectAlibi1 Před 5 lety +26

      I watched both ^^

    • @viktornoren9504
      @viktornoren9504 Před 5 lety +39

      Yeah, saw both and went "why the hell would I conciously choose LESS of this deliciousness?!?"

    • @constantexpected
      @constantexpected Před 5 lety +4

      Lol Yup! I saw the two videos next to each other, saw the difference and went straight to this one.

    • @shartnitazodkeesian4018
      @shartnitazodkeesian4018 Před 5 lety +6

      I'm watching both at the same time on a loop on two seperate monitors

  • @ontaka5997
    @ontaka5997 Před 3 lety +353

    1:15 Huge time, money, and effort went into making swords.
    Matt mentioned all the main problems of a sword. Spears are cheaper, and faster to make in large quantities.
    You can also train spearmen faster. If you are a lord preparing for battle, you also have to think about your treasury. Keep things simple and cheap.
    Things may be different in street fighting in narrow alleys.
    It's about "CONTEXT" of course.

    • @mwdino2507
      @mwdino2507 Před 3 lety +39

      On top of that, in the video they were using foam/rubber spears, but in real life, the spear would have been made of very solid wood. Which means that if the precise stabbing with the pointy end isn't working out for you, the second option is to use it like a staff and absolutely slam someone with the blunt end.

    • @pergys6991
      @pergys6991 Před 3 lety +12

      It also helps that they can pierce most armor better than swords can. A spear has all of its power in the tip and in a battle where your front always faces the enemy and your stuck between lines of men, a spear is the easiest way to kill or injure your enemy

    • @Weldedhodag
      @Weldedhodag Před 3 lety +2

      @@pergys6991 spear better when riding horse for that reason

    • @texascultdeity8904
      @texascultdeity8904 Před 3 lety +6

      @@Weldedhodag yes and no horseback has many problems and the weapon is very situational. Due to handshock and too much momentum often long cavalry swords arr preferred and or flails. Or carrying multiple light disposable spears

    • @dr.doomstar5875
      @dr.doomstar5875 Před 2 lety

      if you end up in a streetfight and the other suddenly has a spear RUN!!! it's the same as if your girl is wearing matching undies: it was not you who planed whats coming next.

  • @dominiklisowski7382
    @dominiklisowski7382 Před 3 lety +4

    I always wondered how there is not a single zombie apocalypse movie when they use spears, but there are always axes, knifes, baseball bats, chainsaws - everything that allows for close contact. Put a knife on a stick and survive.

    • @cheezburgir2330
      @cheezburgir2330 Před 3 lety +2

      Good question

    • @ahmodhoward2334
      @ahmodhoward2334 Před rokem

      To be fair, if going by most zombie rules, then only things that are blunt or heavy should work.

    • @spamviking
      @spamviking Před 9 měsíci

      I remember in the Walking Dead comic when they're in the prison they use spears to clear the undead off the fences safely.

  • @eifionwynwilliams-iffy1288

    This was absolutely brilliant and so informative. Thanks for posting it.

  • @milesgibson9555
    @milesgibson9555 Před 5 lety +324

    I like the way he comically runs after announcing the fight

  • @milocarteret8770
    @milocarteret8770 Před 5 lety +745

    From how I understand it, whatever pointy bit that can extend as far from the user while still being effective will have the advantage. In general, sword < spear < bow < gun < missile < internet insults.

  • @hulohai
    @hulohai Před 2 lety +5

    Cool stuff!
    I can definitely see how judo/jiu-jitsu sorts of grappling techniques would be invaluable for spearmen.
    Lots of awkward clinches that looked well-suited for simple takedowns, especially given that glancing blows might not have done much.

  • @sirSHREDalot802
    @sirSHREDalot802 Před 2 lety

    This video was super entertaining. Great content!

  • @Tiger74147
    @Tiger74147 Před 5 lety +544

    "Taking his time, waiting for a weakness to exploit. He forms a plan! ...and he's dead." Hahaha

  • @chrisgillock1389
    @chrisgillock1389 Před 5 lety +687

    It's like a semi serious Monty python 😂😂😂 I died laughing at "he forms a plan...and he's dead"

  • @captainphasma1714
    @captainphasma1714 Před 3 lety

    I loved the video. Amazing work!

  • @johann296
    @johann296 Před 2 lety

    Great video guys. Wonderful content 😄😄

  • @MrJustonemorevoice
    @MrJustonemorevoice Před 5 lety +348

    "This swordsman looks serious, until he takes a spear to the face"

  • @LuckySketches
    @LuckySketches Před 5 lety +1024

    What if nobody wrote books about how to use a spear because everybody takes one look at it and instantly knows exactly how to use it?

    • @tinamoul
      @tinamoul Před 5 lety +123

      @McNugget Fan But wars aren't won by single warrior's, if I can equip my army with a very deadly weapon that's easy to use, well that's it. It's why the bow went out of use long before guns had the range or efficiency to supplant them. Becoming an expert Archer took years of training, to develop the muscles and dexterity, you could train a man to use a musket with just a few drills.

    • @Ezio17a
      @Ezio17a Před 5 lety +75

      stick em with the pointy end?

    • @chrisnorris3641
      @chrisnorris3641 Před 5 lety +2

      If all else fails you can always throw the spear.

    • @joshualittlewolfe8550
      @joshualittlewolfe8550 Před 5 lety

      Alexander Carter But a master pike man could make mincemeat of any peasant with a spear

    • @chrisnorris3641
      @chrisnorris3641 Před 5 lety +30

      @@joshualittlewolfe8550 a master Anything could beat a peasant who couldn't afford real training. . Lol

  • @PernilleFromHansen
    @PernilleFromHansen Před 2 lety

    The commentary on this is pure GOLD :-D - love the spear - did staff fighting for at few years - it rocks :-D

  • @thesleepydot
    @thesleepydot Před 2 lety

    Wow I'm watching sports and having so much fun!! The commentary is absolutely hilarious

  • @aaronseet2738
    @aaronseet2738 Před 5 lety +1341

    Next week, spearmen vs trebuchet.

    • @directentertainmentaplacef8630
      @directentertainmentaplacef8630 Před 5 lety +38

      Nah! It's spear vs. elephant. 😎😎😎

    • @maverikmiller6746
      @maverikmiller6746 Před 5 lety +49

      I am sure with Lindy's "scientific methods" spearman will win and will go on to defeat nuclear warhead the other week.

    • @balbaal9393
      @balbaal9393 Před 5 lety +14

      Trebuchet is a man's weapon. The true mightiest of them all

    • @directentertainmentaplacef8630
      @directentertainmentaplacef8630 Před 5 lety +5

      @@maverikmiller6746 Oh, testing isn't part of YOUR "scientific method?" What a pathetic excuse of science you must practice.

    • @maverikmiller6746
      @maverikmiller6746 Před 5 lety +2

      @@directentertainmentaplacef8630 No my dear friend. The joke was on "scientific" part, meaning this was not one. Please read Sean Brown's comment down below detailing to great length why this is all overall done wrong.
      And please have a good day, civilised person.

  • @kalleojala8919
    @kalleojala8919 Před 4 lety +817

    Solution: combine the sword and spear to create the legendary "spord"

  • @duelist1954
    @duelist1954 Před 2 lety +1

    That was great!

  • @gryphonbotha1880
    @gryphonbotha1880 Před 2 lety +9

    The spear!
    The greatest weapon in the land!
    You can't put it in your pocket,
    But you can hold it in your hand!

  • @kamilkrupinski1793
    @kamilkrupinski1793 Před 4 lety +296

    What do we know:
    1) Flanking maneuver works.

    • @Narcan885
      @Narcan885 Před 3 lety +10

      Oh they do. I learned that watching Worldstarhiphop. When you're talking to someone on the streets of new york and his friend tries to casually walk behind you without saying a word... run for dear life. Or call your friends, Smith and Wesson.

  • @skullsaintdead
    @skullsaintdead Před 4 lety +195

    "YO-HOO MOTHERFUCKER!" Classic flanking manoeuvre 19:02, with commentary.

  • @IJustWantRevolution
    @IJustWantRevolution Před 2 lety +18

    only a few minutes into the video, but i imagine its as simple as: The spear is objectively better as a weapon but the sword is able to be carried on your person more conveniently and thus is much more likely to be used in any given scenario that isnt on a battlefield. I also would imagine that they are more popular simply because they are much more aestheticly appealing than a pointy stick; plus, it takes more skill yo use a sword, so its kind of a status thing to say "im good with a sword"

    • @IJustWantRevolution
      @IJustWantRevolution Před 2 lety

      Also watching thr duels is making me laugh at the thought of actually coming across a man with a spear and how utterly terrifying it would be. Gotta just accept death at that point lmao

    • @magniwalterbutnotwaltermag1479
      @magniwalterbutnotwaltermag1479 Před rokem

      Shortsword plus shield yielded us a roman empire, what matters is organisation

  • @kevint1929
    @kevint1929 Před rokem +7

    I think the big reason we remember swords so much more is because it's the prestige weapon of the warrior aristocrats. While European knights generally all used lances/spears on horseback, when their lances shattered or they dismounted they used their expensive, fancy swords. Thus, we remember the sword as the symbol of medieval combat: the weapon of the individual dismounted elite fighter

    • @racot7145
      @racot7145 Před rokem

      You know there is big chance you broke yor spear after the first charge. and if you can't ride back to charge again or if your spear is broken the sword is your main weapon. Also if you are in armor spear can't damage you and you can use hammers swords and other weapon. Also you shold remember roman legions used swords and shieds . And they beat falanga with spears. They only way why spears are good in such tests is because it's game who touch first .

    • @bababababanana6541
      @bababababanana6541 Před rokem +1

      @@racot7145 Roman legions use spears, a lot of them. They even throw them.

    • @racot7145
      @racot7145 Před rokem

      @@bababababanana6541 it was short spear . First line used massive shield and sword to hold the line while the second line throw the short spears. I didn't heard about using long spears in Roman legions. 2 meters.

  • @demog492
    @demog492 Před 3 lety +414

    "He forms a plan oh and he's dead."

    • @meneither3834
      @meneither3834 Před 2 lety +17

      "everyone's got a plan until they get a spear to the head."

    • @JADBeats
      @JADBeats Před 2 lety

      @@meneither3834 top ten rappers Eminem is afraid to diss:

    • @LEO_CXLIV
      @LEO_CXLIV Před 2 lety

      @@meneither3834 Plans only work when you don't over complicate the matter. Just cut the head off the spear. He won't be getting through your armor with a blunted stick.

    • @meneither3834
      @meneither3834 Před 2 lety

      @@LEO_CXLIV to be fair, a spear isn't getting through a full plated armor either.

    • @discordthingy6796
      @discordthingy6796 Před 2 lety

      @@LEO_CXLIV did you see how thick the spear was

  • @romansierra5614
    @romansierra5614 Před 5 lety +613

    Calls out about everyone wearing black.
    Names the one person in colour "fancy pants".

    • @shartnitazodkeesian4018
      @shartnitazodkeesian4018 Před 5 lety +87

      obviously beige is the only proper color for a warrior to wear

    • @jimbob3332
      @jimbob3332 Před 5 lety +105

      To be fair, those pants were damn fancy

    • @Hannah_Em
      @Hannah_Em Před 5 lety +11

      I mean, they were two tone primary colours, how else would you describe them?

    • @yomomz3921
      @yomomz3921 Před 5 lety +2

      Silk cloth with gold trim, or it ain't fancy.

    • @carbon1255
      @carbon1255 Před 5 lety +9

      Silk cloth with gold trim is gaudy, not fancy.

  • @patrioticwonderer4906
    @patrioticwonderer4906 Před 2 lety +1

    Very interesting stuff, combat is an art, done correctly is both beautiful to watch and frightening to behold, and most importantly incredibly effective and dangerous.

  • @WylliamJudd
    @WylliamJudd Před 3 lety +4

    That's why your sword is your "sidearm"

  • @DraculaCronqvist
    @DraculaCronqvist Před 4 lety +1770

    It's weird how the spear is the best melee weapon and yet is constantly overlooked in fantasy games, most of them don't even allow you to use spears at all and just give you a sword or an axe.
    EDIT: Holy fuck, the likes.

    • @DraculaCronqvist
      @DraculaCronqvist Před 4 lety +83

      @@rexthespartan3025 My point exactly.

    • @Zack_Wester
      @Zack_Wester Před 4 lety +31

      @@DraculaCronqvist Im not sure but in a few games DnD we had one character use a spear and well he got screwed a lot.
      yes he also carried a sword but droping spear pulling sword took so long it was pointless.
      but indoor he had serius problem getting flanked and taking all the opportunity attack. sword only have flanked if your past 180 degree from the front I think.
      spear is 90 degree from front.
      yes spear could attack two tiles away instead of one from the sword.
      but usally the fights was not set up so that you could use that advantage consistently and in small corridors the spear had serius maneuverability penalties.

    • @miguellopes2452
      @miguellopes2452 Před 4 lety +186

      @@Zack_Wester funny you would say that because in reallife spears would absolutely shine in a closed environment

    • @tommasolattuada2618
      @tommasolattuada2618 Před 4 lety +9

      A spear isn't great,It can't destroy an armor

    • @mattender8323
      @mattender8323 Před 4 lety +231

      Actually it’s lot better against armor than slashing weapons.
      Thrust attacks put more pressure into one point. Swords as sladhing weapons worked against peasants and convatans with poor armot.

  • @flupsdarups3897
    @flupsdarups3897 Před 3 lety +1606

    imagine people in the future obsessing about eagles and revolvers, and being all nerdy about it, cuz that what a sword is. a sidearm.

    • @epauletshark3793
      @epauletshark3793 Před 3 lety +8

      Yup

    • @gamingthisera6339
      @gamingthisera6339 Před 3 lety +31

      im actually a fan of tank

    • @aryman6589
      @aryman6589 Před 3 lety +57

      Gun nerds already exist lol

    • @baronprocrastination1722
      @baronprocrastination1722 Před 3 lety +52

      Technically yes, but their sidearm status isn't really equivalent. Almost nobody in the military uses pistols nowadays (at least, none I am aware of) but most soldiers back then had swords if they could, because it was such a convenient weapon they even opted to wear it in civilian settings.
      And, while a sword isn't ideal against armor, it's still handy in a fight. Besides, not everyone wore plate armor then.

    • @puppy3908
      @puppy3908 Před 3 lety +42

      @@baronprocrastination1722 But in movies most action heros use pistols so in the future you could get the impression that its what was the most common

  • @steveklostermann
    @steveklostermann Před 3 lety

    This is my favorite channel on CZcams.

  • @PM9Video
    @PM9Video Před 2 lety

    This was a great video. Thank you.

  • @JohnSmith-vg6hb
    @JohnSmith-vg6hb Před 5 lety +190

    Lindy sounding like an overbearing Dad at his son's football match at 18:30

  • @Exarhadsgfds
    @Exarhadsgfds Před 5 lety +1672

    "Even a farmer could kill a samurai with a long enough spear."

    • @Imakebootysclap
      @Imakebootysclap Před 4 lety +292

      I kill mad pussy with my long spear so I agree dawg

    • @bigmike6462
      @bigmike6462 Před 4 lety +91

      Yari wall spam

    • @Awootistic
      @Awootistic Před 4 lety +106

      @@bigmike6462 *laughs in Oda double yari wall*

    • @armoredmilkman3288
      @armoredmilkman3288 Před 4 lety +14

      no reason why not tbh lotta samurai had no swordsmanship experience (not military ones)

    • @davidmaneer2641
      @davidmaneer2641 Před 4 lety +61

      Samurai were archers, and they had spears too.

  • @lordenkidu1876
    @lordenkidu1876 Před 2 lety +3

    4:54 good old big knife. This vid is the greatest crossover ever.

  • @canopyleaf9152
    @canopyleaf9152 Před rokem +2

    I watched this awhile ago to knowledge myself on spears since I was making a character use one, but honestly I’m genuinely interested now!

  • @moongem4489
    @moongem4489 Před 4 lety +100

    The announcer yelling faintly from a couple metres away and then running off as the camera zooms out has such Monty Python energy-I love it.

  • @keeganmackey250
    @keeganmackey250 Před 5 lety +128

    15:22
    "But he demonstrates that what a man might lack in style he can make up for in extreme violence."

    • @rodguidry2223
      @rodguidry2223 Před 4 lety +1

      Keegan Mackey talks in an animal documentary voice

  • @greyisometrix
    @greyisometrix Před 3 lety

    Excellent video.

  • @SexCrispy1
    @SexCrispy1 Před 2 lety

    Amazing Vid. Thanks.

  • @Slugg720
    @Slugg720 Před 4 lety +131

    I love how dude runs off camera after his announcements. What a legend

    • @Lark1610
      @Lark1610 Před 4 lety +5

      visceral "Science!"

  • @lomax343
    @lomax343 Před 5 lety +343

    3:00 - Of course there's something a sword is better at than a spear. It's better at demonstrating how rich its owner is.

    • @dimitargaydadzhiev878
      @dimitargaydadzhiev878 Před 5 lety +10

      I would dare disagree, a spear has as much area for ornamentation if one so wills to ornament it

    • @lomax343
      @lomax343 Před 5 lety +47

      @ Dimitar - My point had nothing to do with ornamentation. A spear is mostly wood with a bit of metal on the end. A sword is all metal. Wood is much cheaper (and more readily available) than metal - which means that swords are more expensive than spears. Therefore people who carry swords are probably richer.

    • @verbalbbq7976
      @verbalbbq7976 Před 5 lety +32

      lomax343 also, the metal bit in the spear is less complicated to do than the whole metal sword. Swords have much more complex structures and mechanics than spears, and therefore take a long time and skill to do properly, thus making them more expensive

    • @fdagpigj
      @fdagpigj Před 5 lety +6

      @lomax343: Yes, wood is much cheaper than wood.

    • @lomax343
      @lomax343 Před 5 lety +4

      @Random keystrokes - Ooops. Look the other way while I do some quick editing.

  • @user-un2qi4eo9n
    @user-un2qi4eo9n Před 3 lety +4

    😄 this was an amazing video watch! Very fun!!
    And also I just want to say I always thought the Spears looked so much cooler than swords if you're carrying one 😄

  • @fuchila2point0
    @fuchila2point0 Před 3 lety

    I love this video!

  • @snowwhite7677
    @snowwhite7677 Před 5 lety +1133

    Spears are best when you have a lusty Argonian polish them!

    • @Messiah114
      @Messiah114 Před 5 lety +69

      A Polish Argonian

    • @DarkPsy
      @DarkPsy Před 5 lety +22

      This one book hahaha.

    • @anonsandifer507
      @anonsandifer507 Před 5 lety +7

      Best comment!

    • @DhonJoe
      @DhonJoe Před 5 lety +13

      @The reality you fear
      Wait masturbating increases one handed? YEEEESSS!

    • @cymtk
      @cymtk Před 5 lety +2

      kurwa mac

  • @captaincokecan
    @captaincokecan Před 5 lety +248

    Longer version or is this just the tip?
    ... of the spear

    • @Scrubwave
      @Scrubwave Před 5 lety +6

      You're both terrible.

    • @ajm2872
      @ajm2872 Před 5 lety +3

      You beat me by 42 damn minutes...

    • @4nhk066
      @4nhk066 Před 5 lety +4

      just keep your shield up...

    • @CED99
      @CED99 Před 5 lety +3

      Just the tip still counts... I'll get my coat

    • @nicholas2198
      @nicholas2198 Před 5 lety

      Just the tip and only the tip

  • @thebigfarter
    @thebigfarter Před 3 lety +3

    my favorite part of this video is the names lloyd gave to the fighters

  • @Docstar_sing
    @Docstar_sing Před 2 lety +2

    Very interesting seeing true fights like this!