Interview With Former Jehovah's Witness The Historian James Penton
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
- I promised if I found the whole interview I would upload it so here it is but with A Lot of upgrades to it.
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I promised I would upload it when I found it, so here it is, but with A Lot of upgrades to it!
I made it Wide Screen and made it into High Def. I also included different Video Clips and Pictures to go along with what he is saying to be more entertaining. I also fixed the brightness, contrast, etc.... and I fixed the Volume for you all.
I apologize for it taking me so long. I have been very sick and unable to do anything but lay down and be miserable😞
It took me longer than usual to fix this video days and days of work. I guess it's just my sickness that's slowing me down🥴 Anyways I hope you all enjoy the video and I have many upcoming videos I am working on as we speak👍
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Prayers for your health.
This is great, do you know what year it was recorded?
@@theresistance9872 I think a lot of us and our family have developed health problems from all the toxic stress from what the elders and our families have put us through and the medical field acts like we are paranoid schizophrenic for just talking about what we have gone through.
Absolutely loved this interview just 3 months ago disassociated myself after 35 years, and after seeing this video it has shown me I can still be a Christian and be loved by God! I was mentally and emotionally exhausted feeling that that whatever I did was never enough. I had 2 elders come to my door after receiving my letter and told me I was turning my back on Jehovah God! This interview has helped see things so differently! Thank you so much for showing it.
Prof. James has a truly Christian heart. Thanks for uploading this interview.
Thank you🥰
Jw cult stole my mind, ruined my soul. It must go down! Great lecture and man.
Same as all religions.The term religion comes from a latin word that mean ....to bind..bondage...,its mind control scheme.
The worst mocking I’ve ever experienced was by a CO at a 2 day assembly.
During his part he brings up a situation that he somehow found out about that a family group were all planning on going on a vacation. They had been planning it for months but when they discovered that the assembly would be the weekend they would be on vacation they made plans to attend a different assembly on a different weekend. (They we’re actually attending that Saturday because they were leaving Sunday so they would only miss one day and go to a different one for just the Sunday)
Well the CO laid into them about it. So there they are in attendance on Saturday and the CO, from the platform, is telling everyone how bad that is. Telling us that we shouldn’t go to different assemblies because the “local needs” part that he was giving may be different for different locales and they would miss the talks that they needed to hear that concerned their locale.
I was in shock. I felt horrible for this family and I remember being so angry.
The following day, Sunday, the CO then informs everyone that this family decided not to go to their vacation and instead was “in attendance today”.
And everyone clapped and I felt like throwing up.
I have never been as angry about anything as I was about that.
I was at Spanish assembly a long time ago and there were very beautiful females at this assembly. All the younger people were getting to know each other. During the beginning and during lunch. Well someone got on stage and began to say how the females were being vain and showing off their beauty. Even going as far as saying that their dresses were not to code. I was shocked and from what I noticed at assemblies they always try to put people down in one of their talks as if it say your not doing what your told etc etc. I was with my aunt and I bought this up to her years later and to my surprise she saids I don’t remember that? What kills me is she remembers everything else but that Smh 🤦🏻♂️
@@guyonabudget5209 they are absolutely obsessed with mind control. When I was married we couldn't afford exclusive vacations I always looked for an interesting city that would be nice to explore and attend the convention we had two daughters. It was always an uphill fight with the Ex. She was more concerned about the thought people would think she missed the convention.
@@guyonabudget5209 Absolute 🔔ends aren't they😀
Magari gli hanno impedito di partire dietro a vari consigli amorevoli per poter fare una bella pubblicità a quella assemblea da L'ITALIA
@@guyonabudget5209there’s a lot of jealousy and envy within especially those that are taking the lead if they are not included
Mr James Penton explained how it was to be a Jehovah’s Witness perfectly! As a recently ex-elder/secretary who is a retired design engineer was treated as if I were inept…Mr Penton is so correct in his explanation on every level! I appreciate his outlook, because I feel, and have explained the Jehovah Witness sect in the same manner to those I know.
This is a very wise and kind man
I am no longer a Christian but I can respect James Penton
This man is a genius
This should be shown on national TV Worldwide, love and peace from Perth Australia.
If we lived in a world where tv isn't BOUGHT by satanists/big pharma / those who do not want us to know this kind of stuff.
Keep spreading it around.
James Penton is a level headed, man with a fantastic view on life. His non judgemental outlook is to be respected. This man has a wisdom I would love to have. Thanks Kristy.
There is so much truth in what he says. I experienced the imploding he speaks of, within my own group of friends as a teen.
I was also one of those little kids who was made to go door to door to spread the message of destruction.
and was also expected to preach this message to school mates.
It's child abuse.
I also watched as a teen as parents took little ones out to the back of the hall to belt them as they were not quiet enough during the meeting.
I was so sorry for the little ones
One mother in the hall i went to had a litle boy and he was cutting up during meeting so the mom was taking him out to the bathroom and he was yelling Jehovah help me.
I raised my son to develop Christian ethics based on Bible. I did not force him to anything. He decided to get baptized and we really believed we found true religion. We were average in theocratic activities, not ambitious for privileges. He graduated in the University contrary what elders recommended. Today we are realizing this is dangerous cult without any love and common sense. We are in a process of leaving. Despite everything we did not leave faith in God.
I'm so sorry but that is good to hear!!!
It is hard to believe this man was ever a JW. He has seriously moved beyond the organization and embraced life. His critique of Judge Rutherford was spot on! More JWs need to hear this man’s testimony. Thank you for sharing, Kristy! 😊
Funny now when I reflect back on how I viewed anyone particularly intelligent, critical thinkers, acute and perceptive, when I was a teenage witness, I’d always wonder why they were still a witness. (Often not for long.)
Early alarm bells as a born in. Thinking back, even as a child, I knew it was a belief for the easily led.
@@Letts_prey I think for some ex jw like myself,it was a testing ground,at least i got the impression that some doctrines could be questioned and doubted from mainstream christianity.
Then after a year or so with jw i found other questionable doctrines in Jw beliefs and operation ,and i as well left.
So i finally decided to study on myself.
It needs a strong heart to make this decisions and i wish our children and their children's children will not repeat this cycle,the truth will be out.
I was never a JW, but I came into contact with Witnesses as a teenager/young adult. I have studied the history of the Watch Tower sporadically for 30 years. Every time I’ve encountered JWs I found myself feeling sympathy for them as people. Most of them have zero knowledge of how this organization (corporate publishing scam disguised as a religion) came to exist. Because I am an outsider it is more difficult for me to get to know Witness people individually. I have felt blessed to make friendships with ex JWs and to hear their heart-rending stories of leaving the Watch Tower. All I can tell you folks is that you are loveable and that you have friends outside the Watch Tower you have yet to meet! Be strong and of good courage! 😊
That is very sweet of you👍😁
@@petertherock7340 i can agree with you on that make good sense you me
Such great attitudes and healthy views this man has. I enjoyed very much listening to him.
I am very glad you liked it!
It’s actually 2/3 of children leave the movement at this point. The Borg is dying. Thanks for this great interview with a great man!
It's a good interview, which I've watched many ex jw's testimonies which are great too, however, I'm interesting in knowing why you say he is a great man?
He, himself said " I was a bit self-righteous."
Amazing encouraging video thank you. The lack of love and draconian rules are toxic in this cult.
It's sad what the wt has turned into. It's worse than ever, and it might possibly get worse.
I just pray and pray they wake up. They have no idea the damage they're doing to the children.
Thank you Kristy. We very much appreciate the work you've done on putting this video out. I'm so sorry you're going through all of this pain and sickness.🥺
Love always dear.
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Best interview I have seen about the goings on in this cult.
This is definitely 💯 % how these people in this Org behave ....Phareesee......
Thank you so much for your efforts in uploading this video, awesome but sad interview. The older ones who survived leaving this cult and lived to tell about it truly are priceless. They have a unique perspective many of us will never have. It’s a shame more people don’t know just how horrible this religion truly is. Hopefully one day very soon that will change.
He mentions how cruelly children were treated in the meetings. When I was studying with a JW, I only went to one meeting at the KH. I saw how badly children were treated, and knew I would never take my 4 children there. There would be pressure to conform to the same.
Hi Kristy Ann I keep praying for your health, very much from Canada. Penton and Salter were very good example of constructive critique to the leaders of the JW and payed by being disfellowshiped. And yet they preset the naked truth.
Thank You So Very Much! I'm not doing so great this time I am sicker than ever but what can I do just tough it out I guess🥴
Yes Salter was Awesome also he had the strength to stand up to Rutherford and was the first to completely OUT all of Rutherford's sick behavior. Then that paved the way for Olin Moyle who won a Great lawsuit against The Society. Boy does Watchtower try to keep that hidden (though anyone can download the whole court case but it is hundreds of pages long) In that case, kind of like the case with J.J. Ross, The Daily Eagle, and Russell it proves the Religion to be False. The BEST EVER though was the J.J. Ross Court case because they proved that Russell's Religion was "nothing more than a money making scheme". The other interesting Court Case is the one Freddy Franz was in where it was proven that he did NOT know Hebrew and he did NOT know Greek he lied just like Russell did before him. All these are public information and are Legal Court Papers why JW's won't read them or somehow think they are from the Devil is beyond me😖🥴😳
I agree with the religion is self righteous, the JWs these days are definitely different from back then,, the only thing that is the same, is the show, the falsehood ,great video thanks for sharing this interview,
They are obsessed with the outward appearance because it's simply promotes The Cult. As long as the buildings and lawn are kept pristine and the members fake perfection in public Watchtower publishing conglomerate is happy. That's how they advertise. I remember somebody saying something about white washed Graves full of Dead Man's Bones.
How is it different?
@@lenahamster1525 Yes, how is it different? I really would like to know since my brother is stuck in it.
such a wise man
good video, yes some people are very bitter and have a hard time to get over there life in the cult. There is a lot of injustice and stupidity. been out 15 years now, and every day I feel like I am breathing fresh air for the first time. Was not too bitter because just happy to know the real Truth not the JW twisted way.
Sad to hear you are not well, hope there will be better days for you.
Brilliant! Thank you Kristy Ann,well done.peace and love.👍❤️
Thank God I finally escaped this cult, I just wish I hadn’t. raised my children in it, I was raised in it and truly believed it was ‘the truth’ until I began drawing close to Jesus’ words and made them my own and now I am considered an apostle who deserves to die at Armageddon by the JW’s who I thought were once my friends. It’s a matter of where a person puts their priorities. Thank you for the interview, and James, may you be blessed.
Exactly 💯, of my experience with this hateful cult. Gratitude to this man who speaks with love and grace.
That was very encouraging. Thanks for posting and upgrading this!
I very much enjoyed this interview. Thank you very much for posting it Kristy.
Your Very Welcome👍😊
I m an unapologetic Atheist. Buy I think I d like this guy
Thank you for sharing this video. Much appreciated. ❤️❤️
Thank you for sharing this interview 🙏
He is such a nice and gentle man Thank you for this video I have enjoyed it Get well soon Kristy
Love listening to this guy!
I hear "the great tribulation" is only going to last 200 yrs. VERY COMFORTING!!!!
This is the best talk I have ever heard.
Absolutely correct!
Incredible interview ! ! Thank you for this 🌸🙏🏽✨
Thank you ❤
Thank you for sharing. Faith in the words of Yeshua’s 🪴2023
Excellent
Such a awesome video ❤
Thank you again, dear Kristy Ann.♥
Very much appreciated this message.
Merci beaucoup
Ce chrétien nous invite à l'amour, la douceur, la compassion, la bonté.
Que d'émotions à l'écouter.
Oui moi aussi j'ai laissé la rigueur prendre le pas sur l'amour.
Grâce au Christ je sais que Dieu me pardonne et qu'il ne me reste plus qu'à marcher au mieux dans la loi de Christ, la loi de l'Amour.
Thankyou for sharing x much appreciated
Thank you so much for this video Kristy. How are you doing?
This is very interesting information.
is he still around? this man is a godsend to (ex) JWs. his message is integral to reclaiming our humanity post Watchtower.
They trash every family that gets involved with them! Very, very sad. If you can come out of it and remain healthy consider your self fortunate.
Well said my brother
Shunning is arguably very similar to inflicting physical harm. I suppose it wasn’t that bad when Professor Penton left the JWs?
Thanks for finding and sharing the interview, Kristy Ann, and for all the additional information you edited in.
Yeah and Penton was able to take all his family with him he probably would have been a lot more mad had his children stayed in the Religion and Shunned him but he raised good kids and they listened to the parents and not the Organization.
@@KristyAnn You’re absolutely right, Kristy Ann. He didn’t lose his immediate family, and 80 from his congregation left with him, so he was a very lucky man in this respect.
@@CaroAbebe I realized yesterday that my Brother and Sister are in their 60's now I haven't seen them since they were in their early 40's I have no idea even what they look like that is sad!!!
Since they like to add the word "spiritual" to clean up their rot, why don't we just refer to shunning as "spiritual stoning?" Because that's what it is. These isolation methods have been used effectively to break the spirit of soldiers and prisoners. The hardest of the hard. The average person doesn't stand much of a chance. And watch tower publishing is fully aware of this! Wouldn't it be nice if they would leave God out of it and stick to publishing their propaganda? Oh sorry that would mean they would lose all their free labor tax breaks and status as ruling Kings.
Rutherford look is so close to Hitler: Very scary!!!!
He looks like A crazy man in the last picture I used. I never noticed before his face was kind of deformed a little one side drooped down I have worked with pictures of him for over a year but never noticed that until yesterday. It makes him look kind of Evil like you say!!!🥴
He may have been tied to the Nazis because I think my Jesuit and Freemasonic family built the underground contingency bomb shelter school for Army Corps Engineers Balfour Beatty Halliburton Kellogg Brown Root Army Psychological Operations and developed the atomic bomb at White Sands Missile Range New Mexico and Fort Bliss Texas and Los Alamos New Mexico and were tied to MK-ULTRA and developed NASA with Nazi war criminals in OSS CIA Project Paperclip with trauma-based mind control.
I support this, this is severe, because it is a life time war. rather Ford is covert Hitler.
Praying more people find the truth
Praise God
I kinda faded because i started asking ? About Charles t Russell and about the bible scriptures of why they were were charged and about jesus Christ think was asking too much which they don't like and what makes it worst is when elder said do not reveal the secret when you start taking study's it was so odd lucky i didn't take that extra step toward baptism once you stop attending it all over for you they truly have so much control but my heart was telling me something wrong i just faded faded faded 😬😬😬😬😬😬😬
Dangerous cult. Glad I awoke and am far gone from it.
Where did you go ? Just asking.
great interview! ty :) hes right. its mental r@pe to have kids confessing sexual sins to 40 yr olds. and now possibly 20 year old elders.. ew
Yep it is truly disgusting what those men sit there and make those young girls tell them. I know people are brainwashed in their but ,maybe it's because I am a Woman, If I was an Elder I would refuse to ask those questions. I would immediately recognize something being wrong when I was forced to ask Horrid questions to teenage girls it's just strange to me why some of these Elders just go right along with it😖🥴😳
@@KristyAnn RIGHT!? Why aren’t they looking at themselves in the mirror questioning how they have authority from god to talk about these subjects. so gross! Are you going to join the #apostatecoalition discord?!
@@AGoddess yeah I want to but Johnathon is taking a break so I will have to wait until he gets back I guess😎
@@KristyAnn I couldn’t agree with you more about ‘questioning the questioning’. To go ahead with it should go against the grain of any honest and decent man. Those words, those questions, should choke in the mouth. If they don’t, and also don’t make a man question the true sinister incentive behind them, there is something wrong with that man at his core.
It’s a revolting situation, a malevolent policy, and unquestionably derived from ill intent, washed over with unfounded shallow scriptural justification.
It absolutely needs to end.
@@AGoddess On a lighter note…. Hey Rion 👋
You & Kristy are my favourite ’Sister’ torch bearers 😍😍
Amazing research
It like once you get baptised you forget about your blood family because they become your family now bye bye grandkids mother father grandparents aunt's uncle etc it sad after you gotta call them sister brother mother smh 😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬
May God and legions of angels of light heal your body mind and soul, in Jesus's name 🙏
@kimparke6653. Where does it say that angels are involved in the healing process? That sounds more like New Age.
The church is a little oasis in this desert of a world. Like Noah’s dove going out from the ark, you can fly all over this world and you will find nowhere to rest except in the gospel community. It is a momentary way station, a rest stop along the highway of life. It is a place where you encounter Christ’s love manifested through His people, a community changed and affected by gospel grace.
The church has often been called a hospital for sinners. The Great Physician is the Lord Jesus Christ. Yes, we are the patients, but we are also the nurses. We have been called upon to assist the Great Physician by binding wounds, dispensing the means that will restore health, extending mercy, and encouraging life.
I was just looking at the pictures while listening, and the picture of Stephen Lett came up. I realized there is no good picture of that cartoon character. I really don't understand how the borg thinks that guys should be the face of that org.
I don't either he is kind of an embarrassment him and Tony Morris they both seem to make fools of themselves saying horrid things!
@5:00 same here. i had a lot to apologize for after i left WT for good two years ago.
RELIGIOUS DICTATORSHIP IS THE COMMON DENOMINATOR OF CULTS !
I was in only because it was my mother’s religion in 1956 . I was 4 years old and I had 18:41 to live under her authority , after HS in 1970 I went to vocational school…I mastered 3 trades and I’m retired now in 2019 and out of JW over 30 years ago… free at mast fee at last
Please provide the link to the original interview for academic purposes. Thank you. @Kristy Ann
I ask brother and sister a ? About bible regarding Jesus Christ and their reply back to me was not interested thank you who would say that smh 😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬
He says that he loves everyone, regardless of religion, but there is a difference between neighbour and neighbour, which Jesus has defined, and this must be taken into account:
"Someone has warned you, 'Behold, your mother and your brothers and sisters are standing outside and want to talk to you. But he said, 'Who is my mother and who are my brothers and sisters? And stretching out his hand to his disciples, he said, 'Behold, my mother and my brothers! For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother, my sister, and my mother." (Matthew 12:47-50)
And many people of different religions do not do the will of God because of their adherence to their religion. Because his religion separates him from the will of God!
Xcellent point.
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Totally with this guy on Palestine 🇵🇸
Does anyone know when this interview was made. He did some interesting comments on present challenges where he showed good insights.
True , I have the same opinion about this Stuff !
If JW's are so ruthless, why is it growing by leaps and bounds? In 1975 when I was baptized there were 2 million. Now there are close to 9 million worldwide. All in unity!
Well the honest truth is if you do the actual math the Jehovahs Witnesses can not even keep up with the death/birth rate. I made a video a while back showing the math on screen which proved it would take a JW a whole lifetime to just get 1 person baptized. So they actually Are not growing that much at all!! The Mormons have 12 million members 4 million more than JW's and their are 8 Billion people in the world the JW's are the Tinest little group of in significant people. If their Religion was true and not a Hoax and Scam made up by the Elderly money hungry men at the top if it WAS a "Real" religion then at Armagedon Jehovah would kill 99.9% of all people on earth and that is insane!!! If you are a Current JW you have to admit back in the 90's the Kingdom Halls were packed but now their are many many empty seats!! Anyways If JW's would just pay attention you can disprove your entire religion by your current literature I am making a video on it right now!!!👍
@@KristyAnn I grew up born into it . I left in the lste 80s found it too restrictive. I rannoff got married with non JWs lm still married l regret l left the religion. My.point is i whether you are JWs , Catholic, etc ultimately life is about decisions. No religious organization is perfect.
@@KristyAnn i really like your comments on that I think the gb members are jealous of the Mormon growth they accept people go to higher education for more support financially with people who reach that level it that where the gb members are missing it they lack wisdom on it and are a bunch of fools
Teresa, one does not measure the validity of our religion by how many converts it has within his group. Otherwise by your reasoning, you would have to conclude that other church denominations, much larger than the JW‘s, are the TRUE religion. Are you ready to conclude that???
A religion either adheres to the Bible or it does not.
Open your eyes and understand that the JW‘s fall into the latter category and at minimum are false prophets.
@@KristyAnn i can agree with you on that I think that true
How do people know whats right from wrong . I always say good morning or hi to folk i dont know . I just think im being polite
You are completely correct we don't know because we are just humans we make many mistakes. That is why I enjoyed this interview so much he said a few things that were spot on but I don't want to spoil my next video so I will shhhhh😁🤭
@@KristyAnn 😉
Hebrew language Yahshua is our salvation this is the correct name .
Follow christ that is it.
Rutherford was a true narcissist
Nice way to put it. Good 4 u.🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Again I say. Shades of lds.
Is this man still alive??
Yes he is!
@@KristyAnn wow nice man, James Penton I mean not the one on front cover, he has gone the way of all GB, fat and urg
Lloyd Evans interviewed him about 4 years ago - about 1hr 19mins interview.
This man says, 'The Jews suffered unbelievable agony in the holocaust,' there were others who suffered unbelievable agony. Actually, 5 million non-Jews were Also murdered by the Nazi regime. Those others included Roma, Serbs, Catholics, Black people, Gay men, etc. James should also mention, he should be more accurate describing the extent of the killings.
""'Over 4,000 Native Americans died during the Trail of Tears, between 1492 and 1600, 90% of the indigenous populations in the Americas had died because of violence and never-before-seen pathogens like smallpox, measles, and influenza.
European settlers killed 56 million indigenous people over about 100 years in South, Central and North America, causing large swaths of farmland to be abandoned and reforested, researchers at University College London, or UCL, estimate."'"
"""Mao Zedong. From 1958 to 1962, killed up to 45 million people - easily making it the biggest episode of mass murder ever recorded.""
James Penton needs to know of many other Holocausts.
I agree and really not so sure of the history of WW2 ,the victor always write the history
@@karenmoody2763 Napoleon Bonaparte quote: "History is a set of lies agreed upon."
James seems to forget Jehovah,s witnesses were also persecuted and put in concentration camps in the holocaust
was right with you until you starting calling the jews persecutors of the palestinians. Then you lost me completely, sounds anti semetic to me.
The name alone is a erroneous improbably Jehova means Father of evil .
what is your new religion now ? I see many of the people who don't want peace in this religion. hypocracy,,, they want to be there. and the people in there, genuine Christians are exhausted.
Shades of lds
Remember on the subject of children Stephen Lett says they are enemies of God
The concept of god is false.
What he is saying is not convincing me at all. It feels more like someone bitter to me. It is just his personal experience, what I have to respect, but I had liked more factuals arguments with proven elements. Documents, videos etc.
Well this man is sooooo well known I mean he wrote 4 books I think on the JW's. In fact I think he wrote the second most popular Ex JW book "Jehovah's Witnesses and the third Reich" so he can get a pass making an interview like this because of all his many credentials 😁👍
He is not bitter . It sounds like you are repeating something the governing body teaches . He spoke the truth and was straight forward
Why dont you do a interview with a current JW to refute?
I DON'T SPEAK FOR JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES BUT FROM WHAT I SAW OF THEM, I AM MOVED TO SAY THIS: STOP WEAKENING JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! THEY ARE REALLY GOD'S HOLY, SPECIAL, CLEAN PEOPLE! THEY ARE HELPING GOD AND IS FIGHTING ALONG WITH HIM IN A NASTY, VICIOUS, FIERCE. DESPERATE AND DETERMINED BATTLE THAT THE DEVIL IS WAGING AGAINST GOD! 🙏 HANDS OFF THEM !
No, expose this false anti christian religion
No the Watchtower is lying to you they are not in any battle against the devil if anything they are HELPING the devil get people away from any bit of truth that is to be known and I can prove it to you without a shadow of a doubt!!!
God don't need no man to fight his battles he is all powerful the Almighty God the Source of all things ,what he says BECOMES