Has China's Private Tuition Ban Passed The Stress Test? | Undercover Asia
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- To score well in China’s school entrance exams, it used to mean attending hours of tuition on top of school. Classes were cheap and ubiquitous, until two years ago.
In July 2021, China banned after-school tutoring, killing a $100 billion industry overnight. It would have been a worthy tradeoff, if kids could have a carefree childhood. But tuition never went away.
Tuition has now gone underground, and students continue to struggle in a never-ending rat race. Now, only those with time and money can get extra academic help. Is the Double Reduction Policy backfiring?
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And no one talks about the 2-year-old girl @ 26:00 left by her Mum to stay over night with a guy who's basically a stranger to the girl just to practice English???? Holy molly!!!! Isn't that how most child molestation and rape happen???? Isn't that exactly a situation all parents should avoid??? Crazy parents!!!
are you saying that because he is black?
@@justaguy7589 Nope, because he's a _MALE!_ You aleady know who the majority of predators are in this world. MALES.
The white dude isnt any better. Be careful of creepy white English teachers!
@@justaguy7589 not really, it's your assumption
@@justaguy7589no, he is a stranger he didn’t mention black. It really is your assumption, do not assume like that.
Actually stress is not mainly caused by private tuition but the education system. Private tuition exists to support students to survive the highly competitive environment.
But it's also creating stress ..
It creates inequality. The wealthy families would be able to provide private tuition while the poor one will not. At the same time, these "after school programs" are for profits and they recruit best teachers from the public schools. As a result, the best education resources will be getting more and more concentrated toward the wealthy families, something that a true socialist regime will not tolerate. The Chinese communist party was built to break these class barriers and inequality. Moreover, they feel the current education emphasizes too much on memorizing and repetitiveness. Lack of creativeness and imaginative will drag down the country's competitiveness in the long run. They want kids to enjoy life and have time to think outside of box. I have seen numerous articles about these topics on their mainstream news articles.
Most of these kids are forced to attend these classes. Cause in Asia, more hours= more better results lol
I also experienced long hours private tuition. Tbh it was tiring. What can we do in this highly competitive environment? Education is getting more expensive & raising kids aren't easy.
@@ava7571 if no one is allowed to do so, then there the playing field is the same. it's like playing a game where someone's pc has better performance, so everyone gets the top of the line pc, game advantage went back to 0 as everyone is back to where they started but their financial commitment has gone up substantially. Union create a lot of lazy employees but at the same time it offers better work life balance along with good pay. lol. obviously a driver in outsourcing to countries where people live to work.
I'm from Vietnam. The tension wasn't that bad back in the 90s early 00s but I studied 14-16 hours per day, 6-7 days per week. Many useless stuff (at least for me), and after 12 years of agonizing, I forgot most of it :(. Always think about it and ask why would we waste 12 years of our best time in life for stress. Education is important, but I truly wish Asian study culture can be reformed and changed for the better
I am also from VN. I grow up in US. I don’t remember much on VN school system but I remember school start to introduce English class in 6 grade back then VN is not as aggressive as kindergarten in this video.
Even college system in US lecture are not for real life work experience. So I would say most school everywhere are not useful in real life.
I work in technical career. Most offshore countries (India, philipino, etc..), their English is very good. Even India learned English as primary language in school to compete with work outside the country. I would not say English is a waste of time.
@@annat6249I think you misunderstood me here. I never said English was a waste of time but in fact, it was a necessity. I just simply criticized the sheer volume of subjects and the intensity of a typical school day. The subject selection wasn't too good as well. I was an artistic focus student and went through years of high-level, specialized mathematics, chemistry, and physic 14 hours a day. The basic is great to know, but for someone like me and many others, as soon as we finish high school, we kind of wipe out all of those from our head. End up as a waste of time :(
i agree, these pressure make mental illness easier for those who can’t handle with them properly, which leads to bad influence to their lives
44:01 poor kid. She didn't have to be scolded in front of the world like that. You can tell that she didn't expect that scolding from her mother. I hope that she manages to reach whatever educational goal that she pursues
Yea. This is common among asian parents that didn't get educated beyond middle school. They lack awareness and are very blunt.
I echo the other comment that it’s common in Asia. I tell my kids the same at home. In fact, I made my own children watch this section to underscore that I am NOT the only one nagging to their children about completing their homework and reaching out to the teacher when they have doubts that need to be cleared.
I thank this mum for her sacrifice to be filmed scolding her daughter on TV, just so the rest of us Tiger mums are validated. It’s raw and truthful filming on the part of CNA to capture this scene.
She is unable to understand what is her daughter's real problem. That is why the daughter is helpless. It was not the first time she is being scolded like this, she heard it before and will hear it until she will be psycho.
Parents often have no choice but to invest in their children, as they don't want them to experience the hardships they went through. In the Western world, this might be difficult to understand. However, it's important to recognize that for those with low incomes, the struggle is even harsher.
@@Treeliajust because others parents also have poor parenting skills it doesn't justify yours. Repeating the same action expecting different results is defined as insanity. So constant nagging expecting improvement is insanity.
Lots of solutions are suggested in the comments but it will take a large-scale structural change from early childhood education to working adults to reshape society, especially one as large as China. To be honest these issues exist in most countries, but culturally there's a lot more anxiety in East Asia for parents to provide a better future for their children. If the govt only bans the tuition industry to make it look like they are doing something, the black market ends up costing more than when tuition was legal, over time this will just divide the rich and poor even further.
Students are placed into different educational tiers at 15, once somebody gets put into a 'lower' tier, that's it for them, apparently they have lost their only chance at a better life. There's a stigma against those who go to vocational schools because they couldn't make it into the 'standard' high schools and end up making less per month. This is inevitable in all countries as they develop, it is not specific to China at all. Prioritisation of more diverse industries will help raise the salaries and social status of those who do 'vocational' jobs (compared to corporate jobs). The system needs to provide tracks for late bloomers to progress. Unis and employers should also accept and support those who have worked for a while and now want to return to education at an older age, so it is possible for them to elevate themselves. Part-time degrees, night classes, online degrees ... these can help.
The public vs private sch comparison raises the question of whether there is enough govt expenditure on education, and whether teachers receive adequate training before starting work. This is just my speculation based on what I have seen in the west, but if you pay your public school teachers poorly and/or overwork them, or if class sizes are too big for teachers to pay attention to each student, you won't be getting quality education. The best teachers should be employed by the state to level the playing field, not become private tutors.
It is not inevitable at all and does not exist in most countries that made it past middle income. China has developed a much higher Gini coefficient than required, due to wealth extraction from rural to city areas and from there to the CCP associated elite. Because of higher rural fertility rates and Hokou, 70% of chinese children are growing up in rural conditions. From infancy there is a split between cities and rural populations, with a large fraction of the latter failing to follow normal development curves, this is known to result in permanently lower IQ. Hokou is an active choice that makes rural childeren worse off and cannot be rescued when they childeren are older.
When the same childeren start school, more than 1/3 of them start with uncorrected near-sightedness, anemia or intestinal worms. It is an active choice not to subsidize glasses, improve nutrition (a vitamin pill would go very far) and hygiene/deworm (above: Scott Rozelle et al). China is actively choosing to have a large part of its population that is unable to learn enough skills to support employment in a more advanced economy. This will force a large part of them into poor-paying service jobs with millions of competitors (delivery drivers etc) or into the grey/black economy (eg unlicensed stalls or crime). Charging for high school makes the situation even worse, because childeren who "survived" the above are now sorted by there parents income, which again increase inequality and lowers overall skill level of the society.
imagine governments banning education and burning books
there is no point in analysing now because they are sending their graduates back to their farm lands to be farmers.
😅I've studied at one of the best universities in the world, I have friends who are professors or deans at some of the top universities in the world, multimillionaires & CEOs. I never heard anyone saying that tuition classes help them to be where they are now. in fact, in most cases.... it's the opposite. Success in life is not a competition. you become successful by making your own way, not by defeating others in it. This whole competition culture in China where you have to defeat others is scary and unhealthy.
I have heard stories that the private tutors "work" with the teachers in China, so if the students dont take private tutors, they would miss the chance on learning "something" that could help them pass exams or getting good grades.
Extra classes are banned, but instead they just lock poor teenagers at school till 9 pm. The reason behind double reduction was to give children more free time and reduce homework. Now I can see quite the contrary
The real point of banning tutoring is to level the playing field between the kids class and the poor.
@@zsarimaxim692 It's the kind of mother in the video who creates learning anxiety. If every parent is like her, the future of this country is over.When every child has achieved an improvement in grades through tutoring, it means that there is still no improvement, because everyone is still the same, and it is not because that child’s grades have improved that he is better than other children, and it is still the same when he enters social work in the future. To compete with other young people for the few high-quality jobs.
@@zsarimaxim692 Even if one-on-one tutoring goes underground and out of legal protection, only wealthy families can afford it. I fully support the Chinese government in banning any private educational institutions. Before that, each family had to contribute one-sixth of their income to pay for these private educational institutions. The consumption power of the whole society is reduced. It also deprives children of time outside of school life. Parents are under great economic pressure and children are under great psychological pressure, which is one of the reasons why young people are reluctant to marry and have children. Another point is to seize the teacher resources of public schools. Fairness and injustice are not within the priority of the country, and capitalism still pursues fairness? What the country considers is sustainable development in the future. When young people are unwilling to have children, and parents have no spending power to drive domestic demand, how can the country talk about sustainable development?
@@jackzhou4813 Not everyone can afford tutoring. When the poor cannot afford it, it will create a gap between the classes, impeding social mobility. That’s the concern on the macro level. If everyone can gain access to tutoring equally, then the government wouldn’t need to take action.
9pm? 11pm!
Not surprised that parents still want to send children to tuition, even if they are legally banned. Perhaps the policy had good intentions but the underlying culture of competition is still there.
It’s like with South Korea. They tried similar bans but the competitive culture was already there
the ban won't do much if they don't want to make changes to the Gaokao. Its a ranking system of the entire students that have taken the exam and they put your ranking on display to the entire country 😅.
As long as it’s a lot more expensive, it would only really benefit the upper and upper middle class, which makes it a much smaller social problem.
@@holycow343 Gaokao is the only way for many kids from poor families to have access to high-quality education, and their only chance to have a decent job and a decent life. If Gaokao is exterminated or replaced by a new and opaque system, the more likely result would be only kids from resourceful families can go to prestigious universities. By far, Gaokao is still the most equal talent selection system in China. Imaging if Gaokao is gone and top-tier universities become catchment areas for elite families.
@@yeyue7853 the system and the Asian herd mentality are both at fault. The system is at fault because it leaves only one path with too few opportunities for ordinary people to make a good living, unlike the many paths available in the west. The Asian herd mentality makes it worse as everyone tries to jam into so few opportunities, resulting in cutthroat competition, cheating, and then high unemployment. I was top of my class back then in China but I wasn't happy. Thank God my parents were accepted into graduate school and immigrated to the west. Today, I love watching my own children being happy and still excel in school without an oppressive daily regimen that I grew up with.
Tutor for $440 a hour?! That’s a ridiculous amount! A specialist doctor in Australia charges less than that.
If a restaurant waiter in China also can buy an apartment, if house price is more affordable in China, I think the parents would not be so stressful about the children's education about the children's future.
That mum who sent her kids (even her toddler!) to live with a random English speaking stranger has issues. She needs her head checked. How does she know he is safe??
I agree but I think it’s bc China has capital punishment and it’s swift and fast and not like 6 years wait in the US. And their prisons are not ‘nice’ compared to the US despite all the comments about how unfairly US prisoners are treated 😂
Regulating the provision of learning. 📖⚖(14:04, 41:00)
3:45 Historical and contemporary valuation of education. 📝
9:39 Educational streams. 🔀
20:00 Going underground. 😎
Cultural issues between eastern Asia and western countries like the US. it's not just education, it's way of life. For example; in China, South Korea, and Japan, workers would all be overtiming despite not being asked because they were all competing with each other, their employees are self sufficient enough to stay longer hours (whether this is more productive is a different topic). In the US most people leave at 4:30PM to catch the early train home despite office hour ends at 5PM, so employers have to come up with incentive to get people to produce more. lol.
In a heavy competitive society, it's an employer market where employees are pitting themselves against each other. In the less competitive society, employees band to together against the employer via union and unspoken rule like no email after 5PM and etc, it's an employee market.
In the US, knowing more and work harder = getting ahead.
In places like China = knowing more and work harder = norm, you're only getting ahead if you can learn and work in your dreams.
You will need to build useful connections and use those to get ahead.
@@jfverboom7973 Well yes. That's a part of it on both sides. Market is about personal interest, it is about what you can give in order for the person to do you a favor. Connection is meaningless unless they see a value in you. I was making a general statement on cultural differences.
Not illegal but in some Western countries, parents make sure they live in a specific aea to have access to high performing public & charter schools, others send their kids to private schools and avoid public schools and the rest make sure their kids attend Kumon, Huntington and similar places for extra schoolwork.
Private Schools yes i've never heard about the other stuff.
@@andrekoniger3020it’s the “moving to a good school district” type of thing that u/gdew9643 was referring to I think
Hiding only the teacher's face is still pretty irresponsible. With all the surveillance camera powered with AI in China, even children face could plausibly be stored somewhere. That would link it to particular location, and from that government could sniff where this private lesson is happening. CNA should do more due diligence on situation in the field.
India is facing same problem, 10years ago the gov tried to implement 80-20 weightage scheme, where 80% was calculated from entrance exam and 20% from school board exams. This was done as more and more kids were skipping schools to take tutions/coaching to qualify the entrance exams.
Now, All that is gone, it's a nightmare. Private coaching has dug at every corner of the society. A kid has to take tution at every stage of his/her career, kindergarten, middle, high school, university etc up until getting a job. and then 5-10years of gap and then kids and their tution cycle again
Better change university entry requirement to include other criteria which is outside school curriculum. For example, music, dancing, cooking, coding, YTubing, volunteering etc. If the only criteria for university is gaokao score, illegal tuition will continue.
I doubt that would work either. Richer families will just send their kids to music, dancing, coding classes, while poorer families won't have that luxury.
@@twist777hz Don't rich people send their kids abroad?
@@V.E.R.O. You're right, maybe I should have written "those with the financial means to pay for extracurricular activities".
Who cares? The only people in China that get god jobs are the ones who's uncle owns the company. Your success in school is meaningless. The only thing in China that matters are your connections.
It's the kind of mother in the video who creates learning anxiety. If every parent is like her, the future of this country is over.When every child has achieved an improvement in grades through tutoring, it means that there is still no improvement, because everyone is still the same, and it is not because that child’s grades have improved that he is better than other children, and it is still the same when he enters social work in the future. To compete with other young people for the few high-quality jobs.
I’m in America and these parents remind me of my grandparents. My grandpa was only able to go to the eighth grade because he had to get a job to help support the family. So he was always encouraging us in school and encouraging us to go on to college and make some thing of our self
One way to solve all this mess is for public schools to have better teachers and to hold after school tuition classes.
And regarding Vocational Schools, they should also improve teaching standards to be in part with those of Universities.
Many of the teachers in China's public schools are excellent, and the same teachers are hired by private education institutions
Teachers are not the problem.
Not caused by teachers, these kids they are forced to learn more because of the anxiety made by the environment and competition.
the problem is 67% of the students graduating from universities, and the problem is that the college students wouldn't take just any jobs, they are looking for "good jobs" and passing on the manual labor jobs that are in much demand.
The problem teaching is treated as a job not as a service.
Now middle class kids are all scrambling for international schools and study abroad.
This reminded me of my elementary school years in China. All those weekend classes... I sure don't miss them.
….Every day, I have a new prayer : “Thank you, Lord that I wasn’t born in China”
lmao💀🤣
Lol
Same.
I am sorry to break it down to you, but Chinese are coming to your country.
Mocking China… or mocking God?
I think the better idea is to modify the gakao and zhongkao, as long as children are rated based on their academic achievements, private tutor would never disappear.
If you dont rate them properly, how do you pick out the talented ones?
@@noproblematallmate its been proven that in a lot of asian countries although the average student is academically stronger in terms of grades the children often lack soft skills, problem solving, and creativity. Countries like China and South Korea were test scores reign supreme aren't necessarily bad, but for many students it can feel suffocating and toxic. I'm not saying the American college admissions system is perfect but I think it values being well rounded and character more than some Asian countries.
@@genning7246 Most American kids can only speak 1 language. They gotta make it up with something else. Being fluent in English and SEEM more intelligent in a global setting is an advantage. But creativity? Maybe not
@noproblem speaking as a senior in high who recently went through college admissions in America , i can say that colleges value not only academic success but also proof of character and leadership. Although it isn't perfect American admissions looks for extracurricular that demonstrate these qualities, many students like me in order to enter into top university's need to hold leadership position in student organizations/clubs alongside volunteering. What I'm trying to say is that, can test scores alone accurately measure a student's value, potential, and character?
@@noproblematallmateWell, I'm from Germany & speak 5 languages fluently 😊
My family has hosted Chinese international students. Now have a better understanding of the stress and pressure they go through.
1:18 sums up the terrible mentality of Asian parents. Betting their hope on their children. What's the point of having kids if your kids are born to serve your unrealized dream?
There is always this saying in Chinese, which is:「道高一尺，魔高一丈」.
It's sad that I haven't seen a single parent in this video thinking of educating themselves rather than the children. Their reaction to the "shuangjian" policy is all about how to find a way OUT of it, but not how to improve themselves who are the best teachers for their children, not just in terms of academic but everything about life. The eduction piece in China is not lacking for the children, but indeed, for the parents.
ikr... i mean I kinda understand it.
But again... when you, as a parent, need to work from 9 a.m. to 9 p.m. for 6 days a week, you don't have time to nuture the family.
The easiest way is to "outsource" the education to other people.
You kinda judging at a privileged stand point
@@shonest8489 Yep.
It's right to reform the prviate tuition because it creates inequality. The rich families who can afford good private tuition give their children advantage at schools, while the poorer families get left behind. So at school the competition is unfair. If this goes on for a few generations, you will end up with a society with no upward mobility.
This is actually more so after the reform because the rich has no problem hiring more private tutors to their mansions while the normal people can’t afford this no longer have cheaper options…
I agree with the sentiments. But I don’t think outlawing private tuition will help.
You have to IMPROVE a the quality of education in public schools. This takes time and an big investment in education.
Better trained teachers who are better paid. Smaller class sizes.
This takes years.
@@lamdao1242 You are right the key is improving the education in public schools. Beijin's Education Index is slightly higher than Iceland's, which ranks 6th in the OECD countries. Whereas in rural areas the Education Index is not as high. This means if you are in China's urban cities, the public schools offer quality education. But if you are in the rural areas, then the schools aren't as good. So China needs to reduce the inequality between the urban and the rurual areas. However, the issues created by private tuition is a separate matter, it is mostly in the cities. China, like all East Asian countries, have the meritocratic culture, so in Chinese cities, parents scramble to give their kids all the tools to get ahead of the academic competitions at school. This is why it created a huge industry of private tuition. However this created problems because it adds a lot of pressures are added on the parents and also on the children. Not to mention it further the inequality between the rich and the poor. Therefore a reform in the private tution is much needed. Taiwan also had the same problem in the past, but Taiwan took a different approach by lowering the standard, such as removing the entrance exams. As a result, Taiwan's education quality went downhill. In comparison, I think China's method is better, they are not lowering the standard, instead they are removing private tuition which is not needed and unfair. However, knowing the Chinese parents and the Chinese culture for the desire of academic success, I suspect a lot of parents will turn to some sort of underground private tuition.
This is a result of culture and social development. Chinese culture put a lot efforts in education on one hand, on the other hand, they are getting richer. Nobody does this when I was a kid 30 years ago.
My gosh how can one birth more than one child in this type of environment.
And this is why worldwide the newer generations don't want to have kids. It is just TOO COMPLICATED.
Why should people be forced to have kids?
Having kids is outdated an old tradition.
Even if one-on-one tutoring goes underground and out of legal protection, only wealthy families can afford it. I fully support the Chinese government in banning any private educational institutions. Before that, each family had to contribute one-sixth of their income to pay for these private educational institutions. The consumption power of the whole society is reduced. It also deprives children of time outside of school life. Parents are under great economic pressure and children are under great psychological pressure, which is one of the reasons why young people are reluctant to marry and have children. Another point is to seize the teacher resources of public schools. Fairness and injustice are not within the priority of the country, and capitalism still pursues fairness? What the country considers is sustainable development in the future. When young people are unwilling to have children, and parents have no spending power to drive domestic demand, how can the country talk about sustainable development?
The official reason was that the government wants that the people have more children. According to them, they don't have due to the high prices for education and not the expensive price for a house, the 996 working, the low salaries etc.
many of these tuitions don't even teach what the test needs lol, as someone who has gone through tuition, it's just to vacuum up guillible parent's money, and put their kids through more suffering.
Such a tough world
*THE STUDENTS FORCED TO GO TO THESE UNDERGROUND TUTIONS SHOULD JUST TIP OFF THE AUTHORITIES!!!* 😂😂😂
The authorities know 100%. Otherwise CNA wouldn't be able to go shoot a documentary (they need to get permission from the authorities first).
Being kids nowadays is really stressful
The problem might lie with the fundamental belief that you can predict a young child future potential from its academic performance, like it's something innate. Hence, by testing everyone early, you could decide who is going where. It's probably based on a statistical fallacy and a lot of people probably end up wasting their potential. Being good in early school of years probably don't weight so much compared to someone who is simply passionate about a subject. Cramming basic math into a child head won't make him any better at solving complex calculus later on.
In that vein, studies of IQ vs achievement show an extremely weak correlation between the two, being mostly weighted by a fat tail on the low side of the spectrum.
interesting it happened in July 2021.. that was when the lockdowns were still happening and all other industries were also being strangled, not just tuition centres. The pandemic is definitely a crazy time for many countries, that's for sure
i think the issue is, parent's mentality, they just want more, sometimes too much. And these tuition schools capitalize on those guillible parents (who btw aren't top achievers themselves, hence why they become "soccer moms/dads" transfering their regrets to their koids), I can understand why China made it illegal for tuition, but how to enforce that is another question.
When education becomes a business, of course there is change.
Kids need fun time
If their aim is to lessen stress. Stopping tuition wont help, as they will feel overloaded and confused over the school work. I think most of the problem is the high competition and stress on scores. They also have to do a test too choose senior school? They may not even know what they like the most and etc
lower the input cost means higher proportion of growth as compared to higher input leading to lower proportion of growth
"It's right to reform the private tuition because it creates inequality. The rich families who can afford good private tuition give their children advantage at schools, while the poorer families get left behind."
------ Thank you. Your comment is what I want to say.
Now, the richer group has a much more extended advantage. Parents have to pay much more for something similar.
It’s really hard for Chinese parents and children.
Where the GAO KAO test paper is official published? It is possible to see a sample of the test online?
This is the problem with many policies in China and developing countries, policymakers just polish out the surface but the core is still rotten. Why don't they think about why parents get tuition for their kids? Isn't it a problem where parents don't believe that just attending classes at school is sufficient, and why is that so? That is the direction that policymakers should start thinking in
Really makes me wonder about the quality of education in the public schools. If the standard of teaching there was good, surely most students wouldn't need tuition, or to resort to private schools.
No, they pay private tuition in order to be ahead of others childrens. This happens in south korea too.
It unfortunately doesn’t matter if exams remain super competitive. Parents with the financial means to do so will pay for any perceived advantage
You forget abt IQ levels. Most people nowadays mostly rejecting this variable. That evey child has their unique talent, so iq are not really important. WRONG.
IQ is like operating system. Yes everyone has their own uniqueness but, if the iq is not very good, you need to double, triple effort to compete.
The reality is, people get hire bc of their capabilities : analytical, problem solving also part of intelligence that can be measured by iQ numbers
The other two above make excellent points but coming from a standpoint of an ex-tuition teacher and now currently a school teacher, it’s extremely difficult to give special attention to each child, especially if it’s a huge class, child has special needs or if they don’t speak the language being taught (e.g. foreign students who aren’t familiar with english). You’re only given 30-40 mins per period and you have a limited number of periods per week so you can’t afford to stop and slow down. Tuitions are usually (not often) smaller in sizes and sometimes even one-to-one private tutoring. This allows the tutor to give more attention to their weaknesses and strengths where their school teacher can’t often provide it. My school is 50% assessment, 50% assignments so it’s not really focused on exams either. Yet, a number of kids go to tuition because they can’t catch up due to personal reasons. I do pity them though so I never give my kids any homework unless it’s for a take-homework.
Like it or not, education is between the parents and teachers - the problem is that relationship itself is limited by the limits democracy because both parties are inherently selfish and seeking to capitalize on the other. The population of the relationships is limited and governed by laws of limited returns. In other words, its a problem that solutions runs into limited scalabilities eventually.
This is why i think there are a lot of chinese teachers on tiktok. I spoke to one there and she said she lost her english school business due to covid restrictions and this private tuition ban. She has a lot of debt apparently due to losing the business.
I agree with him that the education sector should not be associated with profit making.
Which company filmed this documentary? I saw the same documentary in SBS Viceland.
I feel like there are a few changes that could help.
Removing or redesigning the highschool entrance test. Instead of a unimodal focus, having different sections like American college tests have English, Maths, Sciences, Essay, etc could encourage specialization, reducing competition by splitting up the goal. Repeat testing options could also help, allowing students to take the test, improve, and get higher marks. The test could also be replaced with a more well rounded system, such as a points based ranking for things like certifications, club activities, and volunteer work. Maybe it could be removed, and high school placement left up to lottery, choice, and acceptance criteria.
Laws could also be enacted to protect the rights of vocational Highschool graduates, such as anti discrimination laws, privacy laws (no need to disclose which school to employers), and such. Perhaps a list of certifications could also replace the traditional degree system, so that an education would be more similar from any officially licensed certification program. Although that could lead to students taking too many courses, it could also allow them to take courses later in life to improve their credentials.
A shift away from credentialism would also be good, albeit very difficult to enforce. I know the US has really nice attitudes nowadays like “C’s get degrees” and “any degree is basically the same to an employer” which encourage students to take breaks, go to sleep, and balance school better. (The US Ivy League is basically all incest legacy students too, so it’s not very prestigious, which is good because it decentralizes the education hierarchy).
Improving the quantity/capacity of tradional high schools over vocational high schools could also be helpful, so that it’d be less competitive. Maybe even introducing mixed school types with the ability to transition between both types, so that a higher percentage of students could get into “good” schools.
An official partnership for labor resources could also be interesting. The US needs to get a ton of construction done, as do a few other countries. We’d normally rely largely on migrant labor for those kinds of things, but the US hasn’t done a good job at encouraging legal immigration and registration for a while due to its childish leadership and management style. Maybe they could have a program to encourage foreign work to supplement the national job market? There are a few countries that have been destroyed in war, genocide, and attack as well which might benefit from people designing new buildings, constructing new buildings, and preparing new materials as well. Ideally they’d just be able to work less and redistribute the workload so that people could work less and be less unemployed.
In Australia, some tradies earn far more than so called educated people.
But people realizing that is a relatively recent phenomenon. Twenty years ago everyone still saw college as the golden ticket; they just weren't so anxious about life without higher education because, unlike in China, hard work in the West used to pay off. University was for those aiming for higher standards, not a way to escape inhuman working conditions. The Chinese on the other hand have a long recent history of workers being exploited and trapped in dead-end jobs no matter how much effort they put in.
With a GDP of approximately 2/3 of the US but 4 times the population, the competition for good schools and good jobs has been cutthroat when I was little, and it still is today. With the Asian mentality of sending kids to universities as strong as ever, the economy just has no need for this many university graduates. It's no wonder we are seeing a generation of youth who still must study/compete as intensely as we did but without the job prospects of 10 years ago. Trying to ban private education in this bigger picture is just like putting a price cap on a scarce commodity, only creates a demand/supply gap that will be fulfilled by illegal/black markets. Someone didn't fully think this policy through.
ok so I know that this was only in the beginning as an attention clencher but the kid at 0:29 said "the horse won't stop" in chinese and I think he's referring to the comic he's reading rather than the non-stop-ness of the tutoring.
At 31:12 if his children are lagging behind then that tells me that the teacher at the school isn’t doing very well. If the teachers at the school were doing their job, then you wouldn’t have this problem with them lagging behind because they’re not getting tutored
Makes me sad these children should be able to frolic around outside in the flowery meadows or play on man made playgrounds and not having the stress of worrying about their futures until later in their lives.
44:00 the uncle's like lmao noobs XD
People are and will always be different but never equal to one another in general.
Competition accentuates the differences between people.
Excessive competitiveness may lead to conspicuous consumption.
Chubbiness may not necessarily mean prosperity but the converse, decadence.
Ain’t no ban gonna stop all the elite 1% earners to get the best of the best to tutor their kids tbh.
If all the teachers in public teachers are good, there would be no need for private tutoring and those tutor can be channeled to other productive industries, which is good for the nation
I just watched a documentary about south korean students studying in cram schools until midnight and often just sleeping about 5 hours a night. Many battle mental illnesses and some attempt suicide to exit the circle. Guess these students might benefit a LOT from a law against this sort of tutoring.
if they can sleep 5hours a night only to cram for school, I can do too
I am a mature man in VN, just like China. I am afraid that I am not well off enough to help my children compete with their peers.
Parents projecting their own old path on their children is the wrong approach. Let children learn anything they actually like, including non academics; they will be good at it, be happy and get a decent living. Running after money only is a dead end. Money can't buy you happiness, plus you can't take it with you after death.
Bro. Tuition outside of school makes me less stress as they help me...as the school cannot. The problem is the money for the tuition 🥺😐 and my wasted time at school...
So you have ONE test that determines the future of an entire year of students, and then you ban studying for it. Nice move.
Right. That's the factor that many people in these comments are ignoring. It's not just a "competitive culture", the competition is real. A few points more or less on the pre-high school or pre-university exam can change a child's whole life. Of course parents will do anything to help their kids secure a more comfortable, economically viable lifestyle.
that's fine but then how can the government still have the the one big exam. that defines your futur
The tutoring industry is similarly profiteering from the need of millions of students to enter prestigious colleges and universities. Some of these tutoring companies expanded rapidly and took out loans to expand - using pyramid schemes. Increasing number of institutions became prime focus. There have been a few high profile tutoring schools bankruptcies, but many still make good money.
Due to work pressures the parents have given up tutoring and many can’t match the educational standards themselves.
I doubt anyone can beat the sheer number of admission tests as in India. There is an entrance exam for an institue which specializes in preparing students for another entrance exam.
What impressed me most is the gap between city children and rural children， it's not equality, it's dimensional collapse strike
I may be a bit ignorant, but did they seriously just pass this policy "overnight"? How were any of the repercussions not discussed
Yes, overnight! The central committee decide and publish and carry out around the country
That's called dictatorship, buddy. They are extremely efficient, both in doing good and bad.
That’s something called CHINA
That's what happens when there is only a single party system, furthermore with a single person who has say above all others.
Cause Xi rules
"Stocks for education companies" is a giant red flag.
Education shouldn't be for-profit.
6:04, I have a sister that has 17 years old difference.
When she was born, I asked my parents to subscribe to english education TV.
I speak English everyday to her, from counting, and basic word.
I remind you that while my parents can understand english, a bit, they do not make english conversation at all.
While I only had 2 times a week English course since grade 4 to grade 7.
Most of my english come from Manga and movie which I purposefully consume it in English both reading and reading.
Now... I can say that my sister is talking good English for people who is not having school in International school.
It is about education when you are at home, small things!
So I suggest her, to teach herself, then teach the kid when at home.
Then, I was asking my sister, "Which language do you want to learn next?"
She said, "I want to learn Mandarin since my sister (my other sister who studied in China) can speak it."
Then, I gave her a tutor then ask her if she liked it after a month, surpsisingly she learned Mandarin better than me.
The moral is not to pull your kids, push them to do something that they like
43:00 that's not how you teach your childen about math.
Sometimes teacher in school fall in "Math can (only) be solved by this way".
Math is a subject to learn about problem solving. Problem solving needs time and a certain way of thinking to solve the problem.
When you teach math like you are teaching social studies that is relying heavily on memorization, it becomes a problem.
So, if you want to teach math to your children, teach them about problem solving, a puzzle, a game, etc.
to be fair, child in 43:00 has time management issue or she has overload its mental capacity.
Well... comparing with others family members is a way to lose your child for good.
i watch liao dun dare to have kids sia.. so stressful sia
"Education has become a market for profiteers"
Is that really soooo much different from here?
So basically isntead of changing the system they just said you are not allowed to prepare for it.
Tuition companies from Shenzhen can tutor their students in Hong Kong
Reducing pressure on the students, but also making sure only the textbooks condoned by the government get taught
People are pretty stressful
the narrator sometimes exchanged the word tuition for tutoring making the story confusing.. Is the Double Reduction Act banning private tutoring or private tuition? What about tutoring someone without charging a fee for it? There are those few "hero" teachers who stayed late on their own time to help a struggling student. In the end all parents will want their child to be better off than they are in life by sacrificing their own quality of life.
Instead of putting a ban on whole business, people have to think about where the stress,anxiety come from, is there any thing wrong with that education system, or social perception on success, life value all that stuff. The stress comes from a systematic problem. Why most of the parents don’t want their kids to go through vocational schools, which is gonna save them a lot money on tutoring courses. If it’s caused by a significant inequality between white collar industries and blue collar industries? Then the solution they figured out is to take away an option from parents.
When I was in Sec 3, I figured out trigonometric identities in A Maths during the holidays by lying on the sofa and staring at the worked examples in the textbook for an hour or two until I discovered certain patterns kept repeating, and all one had to do to solve or prove the equations was to "plug and chug" these patterns, and then the equations would yield the desired answer. After that I got A for A Maths. Hopefully some kids can apply the same method and improve their grades without needing to hire tutors. It requires focus and uninterrupted concentration though.
Some kids are bad at noticing pattern in math, which was caused by many possibilities: some have math anxiety, some didn't take enough nutrition for their brain to develop, some just don't try to focus, etc.
I encouraged to build good relationship between students and form a study group.
It is less committed and less burdensome than regular tuition.
Supportive parents and teachers are very crucial too.
Some children are discouraged because they asked too much and some are treated as nuisance when they tried to express their thought.
Mathematics is something which children generally don't seem to want to understand. They complain about it being hard and don't actively want to listen a lot of the time and no matter what you say to someone that isn't actively participating in or their education in this case, you will never be able to get them to understand it. Trigonometry is quite clearly something which I knew I didn't know exactly why this was the formula but I knew all I had to do was put in the numbers this way and do as the very clear and quite simple instructions said, and be careful I don't accidentally mix up the variables which was my mistake sometimes, and I will get the results. The mathematicians of ancient times did a big public service and I didn't ever see the problem. As an adult who did maths in university I found out the whys later on and it definitely is too hard to explain to children. You need to be able to make children realise they aren't stupid and they just need to be able to get the confidence of the children into listening and actively try in order to get the right answer and they will frequently be very surprised at their abilities once you find a way to explain it to them in a way they understand. I think the children don't realise that the maths is actually very relevant in many aspects of everyday life that they don't realise and many think none of it is relevant but it is so they shut off. When you make them realise why they need to know these things I feel they fundamentally engage better, especially if you find examples that they genuinely can relate to. Explanations are better when kids see it as something that is real and explained to them in a way that doesn't lose their attention by making symbols and number seem arbitrary for no reason. I would help people in my maths class frequently to understand things and this is a concept that applies for any subject. I would find ways to get my brain to understand when I did my economics degree by reading different books and sometimes youtube back in the day. Sometimes my brain couldn't process explanations other times it could. They need to have the will to chase it down and find an explanation that they will get and that is something that comes down to their own initiative.
Same with me. I love maths , so I completed high school maths in holidays just for fun 😂😂
Oh dear! It is tough being a kid nowadays. 😢 Have to be pushed to achieve goals set by social standards.
Shouldn't one be groomed according to his/her talent?
Some may be good with words and some may be good with works. As long as the teachings are imparted according to individual talents, he/she will learn endlessly by themselves. No need extra tuition.😊
Nothing will stop parents from wanting to educate their children if they choose to do so.
I feel that if the child enjoys such hectic schedule, then i guess it is fine. If not, i mean... it is going to be even more stressful for that child.
Probably a stupid question but do people in China not have heat in their homes? Everyone is wearing a winter coat. Even eating and sitting around talking. Or it’s not affordable for middle class people?
If you talk about the family with 3 kids.
. Having 3 kids is quite exceptional in China.
. The husband is the sole provider of money in the household.
. The husband said the family will be in financial trouble if they need to pay medical costs.
. Look at the state of the House.
These are people living in a rural tier 5 city or village.
They are lower middle class.
They are not rich at all.
Which is why they need winter coats inside of the house. There is no money to spare for heating the house at a comfortable temperature.
the key is remove the education unfairness. poor family dont have to pay extra money to private tuition
Arranging secret home stays with the tutor… if that means what I think it does, that makes me uncomfortable. I appreciate idea. I just hope the tutor is a good person. And I feel bad for the baby in any case
Education sector should not be sub-serviant to the financial sector....
Education as a means to break class barriers.....
Am a really hearing these or these just happen in the wonderland..
Let us train your children or we will train their competitors…. Wow 😮
以前明着搞培训，还有监督有同行对比，现在只是变成更隐蔽的培训，老师也要承担一定风险，价格相对市场也不透明，学生也更加不爽
The country is not producing enough good jobs for it people. That's the problem.
There are many avenues to shine, even in vocational skills. Good hairdressing skills, good culinary skills, good with fabrics just to name some, all have chances to go somewhere. Government plays an important role to make sure that these vocational skills are properly respected, because without these vocational skills, a lot of critical things to our lives will be missing.
I'm seeing the same unhealthy kiasu-ism of us Singaporeans in mainland Chinese people. It's an innate trait in all people, I guess. When faced with competition, when faced with the pressure of amassing more wealth, more income, and better societal status, the kiasu-ism trait in human will be triggered.
l dont understand why Chinese parents wanna have their children tutored ? Because there are oral and writing examinations in schools require qualification of children have to speak or write well in English as ordinary Americans ? Gosh, tis so absurd.
Now that we are all grown up, none of us agreed that tuition helped us improved our grades when we were kids.
The Primary Schools so it seems rely on kids having extra tuition, at least BTPS does, IMO.
why did they change the law on education?
The situation, as outlined in this video, whole approach really is connected to so many Chinese, and other Asian folks antagonistic framing of affirmative action in the US. I think that they are quite stupid to think that those in power are in power because of "good grades". And critical creative thinking has been shown to be much more effective in producing innovation than the presentation here of "getting the best grades". Also, they are completely ignorant of their own imperial history. Historically, those that sat for and typically passed the imperial exam were always the well-to-do. And those that facilitated the exam demonstrated an invested interest in maintaining class/culture/ethnic boundaries.