China's Falling Birth Rate: Can It Sustain The Rise To Superpower? | Insight | Full Episode
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- In January 2016, China finally announced the end of its controversial one-child policy, first rolled out in 1980. For the first time in almost 40 years, all couples were allowed to have up to two children. The key objective back then was to halt and possibly reverse the steep decline in birth rates in the world's most populous nation. But the fertility rate kept falling drastically, down to 1.3 per woman, far below the replacement level of 2.1 needed to maintain a stable population.
In May this year, China scrapped its two-child policy, in favour of a 3-child policy, to try and arrest the rapid fall in birth rates. But getting parents to change their mindset will not be easy. Will the drastic policy shift lead to a rapid surge in the fertility rate? With fewer babies, coupled with the rapid increase in the number of elderly citizens, will that mark the end of China’s phenomenal economic growth, and hinder its rise as the next global superpower?
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Imagine having to work 9 to 10 6 days a week and having three children to take care off, yeah no thank you. Lessen the workload and your birthrate goes up its not that complicated
Children are a great asset as long as you spend time with tgem when young
Child minding shops are the worst thing
Your workload will go up if the birthrate continues to plummet. China will experience a second century of humiliation form an economic collapse by 2050 at this rate. New workers take 20 years to grow, you can maybe stretch that to 15 years.
Many developed have better pensions and pay but still the population is on decline
Its natural progression
@@natty9112 But not as fast as China, just look at China's fertility rate, it's already lower than France and Scandinavian countries although China is still not an upper income countries
@@luism5514 That's not how it works. Fewer people need fewer resources.
Very sobering documentary. However it glossed over some of the more unpleasant consequences of the one child policy like forced sterilisations, forced abortions, female infanticide, imbalanced sex ratios and poor marriageable status of financially impoverished/uneducated men.
What do you expect? They are paid of by CCP.
Absolutely! It’s unpalatable to mention these things. These young couples do not represent all Chinese young people at all. Technology will not solve the labour shortages in the fields.
The west does not even need a reason for their abortions. At least in China the parents have a reason if misguided one.
Perfectly summed up their terribly mistakes.
I think it would make for a much longer video and those issues already had a lot of coverage. That said, you actually missed one more which is child trafficking where children are kidnapped to be sold to couples in rural villages. They are also often girls due to your aforementioned gender imbalance issue where someone's son in said village needs a future bride.
if society was easier for them to live in, with less workload and better quality of life for children, ppl would have more kids. this is a quiet crisis happening all over the world. its definitely happening in america too. young people are deciding to not have children because they cannot afford to give them a good life.
Kids are too expensive, tax credits hardly help. Its not worth it anymore.
I'm not sure. It's not always the case.
At first, I thought countries like China and US, in which raising kids can be expensive, adults not having time for life (spending time for relationship and kids) is a problem.
On the other hand, Nordic countries also have the same low population growth problem. But everything is available there. Their problem is that the adults are already happy to have no kids. There is less urge to have kids.
Historically, kids used to be an investment that people needed. In poor countries, having lots of kids meant a lot of labor to pull in income for the family and a way to diversify investments in case of death back when child mortality was high. Having a successor to succeed the family was everyone's idea of a retirement plan when they themselves got too old to work. The rise of Social Security, the ban on child labor and the necessity of education for kids to even sustain themselves......the only people that have kids are people that actually want them.
If only there were more white men, the Chinese women would flock to them and birth rate will be solved.
This is not true. Taiwan has one of the lowest birth rates in the world, are you suggesting that Taiwan is difficult for people to live in? As a matter of fact, if you draw a plot of birth rate v.s. economy, you'd likely find quite the opposite trend.
it is the economy system that resulted in this. Today children are a liability rather a blessing.
@Dennisestrada Isn't that more of a thing in Japan?
@@haramotozero7316 japan has even higher elderly population % but the country opens up to immigration
@@demonslayer9772 Japan hasn’t opened up to immigration
@@blade5896 they oened
@@blade5896 they opened
People from upper class or celebrity can easily afford two, three children but still don't want more children to enjoy their lavish lifestyle, freedom , what can you expect from middle class people who are busy earning their daily livelihood and can't even find time for family interactions
It will take at least 2 generations to change the current social norm. Western countries use migration to offset low birth rates, which may not be an option for China.
@David Huberty They need way too many immigrants to compensate.
@@SimplyMartin 1.6 billion people in China. they don't need immigrants like the west.
there are too many people in china that's why they use the one-child policy
@@SimplyMartin Even the populations of Europe and the United States combined are not equal to China.
Their population is the largest in the world.
@@cn4s490 Firstly, China is 1.412 billion according to the last census. Secondly, in order to sustain economic growth one of the requirements is population growth. Due to the one-child policy, China would quickly reduce population-wise.
@@SimplyMartin Although it is reduced, it is still very crowded.
Even by the year 2100, their population is still huge.
The population of Europe, Canada, and the United States combined cannot equal the population of China.
That's why I say they don't need immigrants.
One point not addressed in this program is the fact that not only was the 1-child-policy very successful at reducing the birthrate in China, but the fact if couples were restricted to only one kid, they took steps to make sure that single child was male. China offed millions of female children by various methods, leaving a huge surplus of males. It takes two to tango. When you have a smaller number of women of childbearing age and a high percentage of them are happy with one or none when it comes to kids, yep, your population crashes.
That means India will be the next China.
That is why some go to Russia and Southeast Asia.. There is a huge surplus in women in Russia!
@@hexepick8328 I would rather have more Chinese babies which have higher i.q.'s.
WOW! Care to provide a statistic for those millions of killed female children? Your exagerating actually does damage and minimize those female children actually killed or left alone in fields to die.
@@rap3208 here you go!
This one is for the U.S. only. More than 600k abortions were performed in 2021!
Over a period of 10 years, at least 5 millions abortions were performed...some were late term abortions
Wait what? Why the drive by on India lol?
as economic inequality increases, the ability for couples to have children decreases. It's fairly simple, if you don't provide enough opportunities for the middle and lower classes, they aren't going to give birth to consumers, leading to economic contraction. Maybe governments should actually start taxing the exorbitantly wealthy to ensure widespread wellbeing for everyone else
Not true. Just look at India.
Then why do countries in Europe with low rates of economic inequality have birth rates that have been in the toilet for decades?
@@gabingston3430 Historically poor countries have higher birthrate. Just look at Africa.
@@4KSnSLifestyle I know that. I was responding to the other guy who said that income inequality was the cause of low birth rates (which would imply that the inverse was true as well).
@@gabingston3430 Yup. In any case, China is more concerned with overpopulation to avoid famine. China would be happy with 800 million people which would allow China to escape the middle income trap.
Whether to have the second or even the third child has nothing to do with your liking children or not in general, it only depends on your socioeconomic status. The first couple in the video, from their accent, or at least from the male's, you can say that they are locals, which means they have at least one apartment in Beijing. The mere fact relieves a lot of financial pressure from the couple. That might be one of the biggest reasons behind their multi-child lifestyle.
1st couple is a poor example of why to have 2-3 children. Children are not toys and are not for your pleasure.
@@JesusGodHolySpirit3 wait until you old then you understand
@@iggy5347 What is there to understand? 1st couple just want to have children for their pleasure and that's fine and all, but there must be more to it then that ? If that is all then I don't want any kids because there is no pleasure in raising kids, it's hard work to shape them, mold them, etc.
@@JesusGodHolySpirit3 yes its hard to raise kid but by the end of day. Who is going to take your house (you worked hard to buy house??? And when you get old like 80s you will be very lonely
@@iggy5347 Children are not guaranteed to entertain you in your 80's are you nuts to think that you have children to entertain you when you of age?!!!!
Birth rate is a reflection of the quality of life in society. And in an ultra competitive society there’s just very little mental capacity left for couples to raise children.
Too many children isn’t good for the environment either.
It’s maybe good for Capitalistic mindset but it’s not sustainable in the long run.
@@vkrgfan too many kids (id say 4 or more but its fine if the parents can afford the kid) and too little kids (less than 2.0 on average) are both bad
@@Muslim-og3vc Nah just watch as the population drop like its 1929.
imagine how many years of mental and financial planning it takes to raise a child. imagine how many years it was embedded in their minds that you can ONLY have 1 child. Then suddenly be told, you can now double that, and shortly after... actually no, triple that if you want. Good luck with that. China's main concern right now is that there won't be enough younger people to work, which will lead to a stagnant economy.
I'm thinking a way to do it is encouragement in the form of subsidies or tax breaks. They've apparently given out a great deal of money replacing older homes or making homes for those with less resources so they are amenable to spending, at least in some areas.
@@RiDankulous it has not worked in Germany. They are just not used to having more children anymore.
It’s a mindset issue more than anything, especially for those in urban areas. When you have children you adjust your lifestyle.
Right. Their robots can’t do everything.
First they told them have a lot of children to raise the army and then they realized that it’s too many people.
There was a lot of threats in the past, disease, wars. Today with increase of medical care folks live longer, wars reduced. We need to calculate what sustainable world population should be so everyone has a good quality of life and everyone has enough of resources.
That means rich folks have to share their wealth with the poor. There are enough resources, people are just greedy.
That is why we are moving our investment out of china, growth rate is slowing, Better to invest in country with more growth rate which will give better ROI.
Having a declining birth rate is not only happening in China but also with other countries. Having multiple children can be expensive. It’s easy to be on the outside and say have more babies. When in reality having less children can be the best for a family financially.
In most cultures having as many children as possible was normal & expected, this was due to low infant survival rates & having more children meant more help in the fields. As humans industrialized & we advanced medically, the NEED for large families subsided & the normal became 2 to 3 kids.
But now its hard to want to bring kids into the world when you can barely afford to keep a roof over your head and food on the table.
Now that I’m an adult, I especially wish I had siblings. It seems like my friends feel a lot more comfortable asking their adult siblings for help, it seems harder to maintain truly life-long friendships, the kind where you’ll really always be there for each other and won’t just drift apart, than it is to maintain just relatively good relationships with family. When my parents get old, it will be totally on me to take care of them and watch over them, my parents had their siblings to help take care of their parents when they got old.
With you there. I can go weeks without speaking to anyone other than my mom. Friends are great but as adulting progresses, marriage, kids distance becomes inevitable. So at 30 there isn't that 'lean on me, no matter what' element that was there in our teens. I have a few cousins and we grew up close but they're all siblings. I do my best to maintain those relationships but it's uneven and if i stop calling/visiting months go by. It's quite painful tbh considering how tight our parents have been. I'm not too worried about taking care of my mom, I want her near me FOREVER. As only babies we have to get tough, do lots of internal work so that we aren't getting ourselves into stupid situations out of a desperation for closeness. Are you wanting to have 1 child or 5 lol? Do you want your SO to have a big family?
Yes I only have one brother & he hates me lol 😆 I always wished I had a sister but my mom had trouble having me & my brother & had miscarriages so she had to get a hysterectomy young, I’m 24 & have a 4 year old & I feel like my time is running out I want a bunch of kids but I only have 5 more years & I have no boyfriend or husband sooo it’s kinda hard to have kids without a man lol 😂 I don’t want my son to be a only child . 😒
@@istandout321 the best number of child is one daughter and one son. Or only one son
@@istandout321 I don't think you should be worried about your time running out at 24
I introduce you to my brother, who stole from my father and refused to help me and my sister when he was sick. He was entitled to his life and only waited around for the cheque haven't had any contact .now for eight years.
It's already too late....they been running on the one child policy for close to forty years and they are in a rush to boost that birth rate. However, with the cost of having a baby being too much to carry the burden, a property bubble that is slowly bursting and an increasingly ageing population, China is going to take risks. It's no wonder the regime in power has been beating their chests about reunifying Taiwan with the "motherland" they know they are dying and are trying to get what they can before their window of opportunity closes.
Same deal with Russia and Ukraine 👍 Crashing populations in east Asia are a major geopolitical risk. Peter Zeihan does a great interview on this as well. czcams.com/video/wRT7P-VKM0k/video.html
They shot themselves in the foot
I don't even want to keep a dog or cat at home, much less a human baby.
I also watched a documentary on another related topic: the second/third children that were born in that period, some mothers would hide them and they lived a ghost life afterward, because of this policy. I don't recall the title. That is another issue indeed. Could they not be recognized now?
Let us know if you find it, please
of course they have been recognized.
China:Birth rate is decreasing!
It’s national crisis!
Japan:Funny ,rookie.
Hold my sake.
In fact, many chinese are very pessimistic about the fertility rate. They believe china's fertility rate will fall to the level of south korea in the future, which is below 1. They believe that this is the predestined ending of east asian countries
South korea : hold my bear
@@megachad8667 china will improve a little bit since china is not as rich as japan. I know shanghai beijing shenzhen hong kong is expensive but 3rd tiercity in china still cheap
As they become advanced their population size has to come down even faster. In America we have 325 million and more power than all the world combined. China has 1.1 billion extra people than us and per capital income and education per child is very low due to too much population and few jobs.
@@rejectionistmanifesto8836 yes that right. China income now stand $12 000 its should go up to $18 000 by 2028 by then china should overtakes the united states as no 1 economy. Just pray for that for the better world
I'm from a third world and people here have at least 3 and the poorer they are , the more the children. I plan to have none, the economy doesn't allow me to raise one and I lack the grace of being a parent. That being said if China has the 996 work life balance like South Korea, even one child is a burden.
Which country are you from ?
@@kenchambers7137 Kenya. So I'm Kenyan
@@elizabethfw2655 your from Africa , they have higher fertility rate , I think three is the ideal number of kids , what about you ?
@@kenchambers7137 if you ready my comment, you'll see I don't have children and I don't want any. Africa has diverse cultures, religion, generations and traditions based on the region so there is no estimate for the number of children each household has. They could have none to 3 to 7 to 10 to 20. Sone have multiple wives again based on the cultural practices hence even more children.
@@elizabethfw2655 You're a wise person. You made the best decision.
Hope the best for you! Wish you a good life and fulfill your dreams. 👍
In fact, not many Chinese have a second child, let alone a third, as more young people choose not to have children, or have children later, due to pressure from education, housing prices. China's current fertility rate is supported by a second child, but more young people struggle to have a first child
Having kids not because you enjoy watching them grow up, that's selfish and irresponsible. Unless if your financial is really stable so having 3 kids or even 5 is not the problem.
I mean I grew up with 6 siblings and my parents not even have enough salary to support us. They usually will get additional job on weekend. We just have enough food on the table and debt is just a lot. When we start working, they expect us to help them pay the debt too. So really think about it. Not about you, it's about the kid.
Thank you for sharing your perspective. I don't know how to think about this. We as a species is over populated, I just don't think it's a good idea to keep having kids to support the older generation when the earth is at this state as it is. Also I don't agree with increasing consumption to increase GDP. That is just ridiculous even though that's how economies are measured right now and this has resulted in the over consumption of the world resources. And we know this can't go on but yet blind to it at the same time 😓
For me I grew up with 3 siblings and honestly I am happy I did. My parents worked hard everyday and sometimes I wish I was like other kids who got spoiled with stuff but honestly it doesn’t matter much anymore. But because I grew up with siblings I am now able to make wiser choices when it comes to financially spending and not wasting on unnecessary things. And because I grew up with 3 siblings I got used to wanting a big family for myself in the future.
Humans are just going the way of the horse. Parents used to be rewarded financially for irresponsibly popping out cheap labor. Due to automation, the demand for unskilled human labor has plummeted. Due to labor laws, parents won't seen any return on investment for at least 2 decades. Kids need a huge investment in education to make passable money. Thus, the only people who have kids are people who actually want them.
News outlet like this never really tied to reality. Even if China has 10 billion people they still think China will suffer economic slow down in the future bcus of falling birth rate 🤣
Less children, can that really be seen as a problem? The world desperately need less people and not more.
No, this is an outdated notion for the reasons stated in this video. The word is actually running out of children, the developed word at least. At this rate, the global economy will collapse by 2050 and there will be chaos, wars and famines. Why? If you dont produce children then the nation has no future workers or taxpayers, and nobody to take care of the elderly. Economy collapses then government with it.
@@luism5514 The current economic model requires growth. That is not sustainable. Adapt or die, that is the law.
Companies want good slaves who are married/have kids. After about 20 years working, I'll tell young people you should not have any loyalty to any organization, they will turn on you in a second when its convenient and fire/replace you. Also to ensure no slavery, young people dont get married and dont get a girl pregnant, make sure she takes the birth control pill daily in front of you and both wear protection. You will just condemn your new child to increasing poverty and freedomless slavery and these control/money/job trends worsen. Promote this idea in videos and social media to help prevent more young people into this new slavery...
@@pugilist102 sometimes i wonder why the economy can not just stop growing. worrying about the investors moving their money somewhere else?
@@owenbunny4023 It's human nature to continually strive for more. Even if millions agree that constant high growth is unsustainable and unnecessary, there will be plenty more that would never stop. Greed is in our nature so it's not so simple to adopt a purely subsistence society.
You can allow people to have 10 babies…whatever, useless policy, just like if you make it legal for me to buy a Boeing 747, but obviously it’s meaningless cuz I simply can’t afford it. Same for the Chinese society, especially with the younger generation, the one-child mentality still exists. Young people have to work long time, and there’s almost no welfare given for having a kid, and it costs a lot for the healthcare, recreation and education of the children. The time and economic restraints are dominating, so many young people don’t want kids. Also with the “liberalizing” mentality of well educated young people, more are pursuing an individualistic and free lifestyle instead of being constrained to families
The world's problem is rather where birth rate is high but they are living in poverty. We need to stop worrying about first world problems
The birth rate is decreasing throughout the world.
China and India were the biggest worries of Scientists for being the biggest factors of overpopulation.
But look at them now, India has a Fertility rate of 2.09 just above replacement level, while China has FR of 1.69 much lower than the replacement rate.
Now Africa has countries with the highest Fertility rate, but they didn't have a large population to begin with.
@@thebestevertherewas but Africa is very fast catching up with the rest ,, Nigeria currently has a population of 210 million and by 2080 it is expected to reach 590 million ,, Ethiopia and Egypt is expected to reach 250 million population by 2050,,even countries like Congo, Tanzania, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Algeria is expected to reach a population of more than 100 million by 2050,,, Africa shall soon suffer from food shortages due to very high birth rates,, 🇮🇳 India currently has a fertility rate lower than 2.0 (2021 census) and is expected to peak at 1.62 billion by 2050 and drop down to 1.02 billion by 2100,, 🇨🇳 China is expected to drop down to 750million by 2100,, Japan, Italy, Russia will also see their population halved by 2080
Focus on quality of life rather than quantity. Having children for economic reason is unfair to the children, don't forget about the 996 work culture. Putting your children into such high pressure work life is cruel and selfish. Let's look at all the benefits of having a lower population, just look at countries like Australia and compare the lifestyle, Australia will never have the biggest economy but it certainly has the best lifestyle and living standards.
Australia isn't a good comparison. Australia has a lot of immigration that they can rely on if they have a declining population. The amount of permanent residency permits that China gives out is miniscule. Also, Australia is already rich.
Immigration can back fire. Imagine if all muslim immigration went to europe it will change europe forever
@John Chuang as long the child happy to go to harvard you should support her or him
@John Chuang some people happy to be lonely. But for me i dont like loneliness so i want 2 so less lonely
Then you must ask why Australia keep taking in new immigrants.... Reality is, you always need new population to sustain economy
china really is in a pretty weird situation about birth and their older population ... if the young decide to either have more babies or stay single forever the consequences on their economy is major
Australia takes the cake... We import....
@@lanahooper560 lol
I wouldn't want to have kids either if I had to take care of my parents, had a low-paying job, and lived under a brutal authoritarian regime that couldn't even handle Winnie the Pooh.
In this video what’s mostly talked about is the economical pressure for young parents to raise their children and giving them good education which is very costly in China. But why no one is mentioning the cultural/social pressure?
In China, if you born a boy, you have to save up tons of money in order to buy an apartment for his future wife. That’s the rule. In addition to this apartment, parents have to prepare 彩礼 (caili) which is a betrothal “payment” for the bride. Depending on the province, the price can vary, but still - it’s a lot of money.
To add to the cost - most of the Chinese women while searching for a husband, are not only are curious do they own an apartment, but also care what type of a car they drive. If a guy owns a Toyota instead of Masserati they will cut down the relationship, because the guy is “not worthy of them”. That’s the sad side of the Chinese culture where everything is about money and possession. That’s why most of Chinese people are neither eager to get married nor having kids. It’s not about the economics - it’s about the mindset.
It's like buying your very own family.
Really?! A guy with a Toyota will be rejected? From what I know, the average dude can't afford a Maserati. If that is the case, then the vast majority of men will not be able to find a wife. Is this for real?
@@edthelazyboy yeah pretty much. One guy got back at his in laws when his friends saved up for the Dowry they used coins to make up for it and boy was the Metal basin they used to carry it all big.
Gold-diggers
@@edthelazyboy yeah, what a joke....only millionaires can buy Maserati
And just wait until they realise that all this shiny and bright infrastructure has to be maintained.
thats why they are focusing on robotics now
I understand the idea of a 1 child policy, but now people see how having only 1 child is easier to get a head financially. Now there’s way to many men compared to women. The policy went on way too long. I agree if you can’t feed a child don’t have any. But the murder of so many babies was horrific and disgusting.
Bombing of countries with authoritarian governments that many babies is also horrific and disgusting.
You don't understand at all. If you are a child which is born in a poor Negiria family which already have 10 other children(just like China decades ago). If you are forced to work for the family once you are 8 years old.. If you haven't any opportunity to get a decent education.. If what you are faced is absolutely poverty since your birth.... No, you understand these are tortures scarier than death. You don't have any qualification to judge one child policy!
@Artoria Pendragon of course it's a great idea. The so called parents are actually slave owners. One child policy has saved so many souls from being brought to such desperate environment. Without it, I may face similar fate as my mother, being raised as a little animal. India, Nigeria, Bangladesh, other most developing countries should really do that!
@@kangzhilou4207 the one child policy didn't save your country moron, it was western liberalism taking advantage of your cheap labor pool. Your idiotic government only succeeded in spite of their own failings thanks to foreign investment. I wouldn't give any credit to the one child policy being the thing that saved you from poverty, it was the usd that saved you from being poor.
@@kangzhilou4207 but then again, you have a horrible account of Chinese history if you think the communist party was actually effective in making policies in the past. You forget about the millions lost during the great leap?
it's crazy how much activities cost for children in China. In the west, children's activities are subsidized and exponentially much cheaper than the same activity for adults. In China it's multiple times more than adults. The cost of 1 kid easily eats up 70% of a salary.
70%? Man that's crazy
70% ?? Now being a single is the only option for me if I was in they shoes
@@nikhilpandey2618no kidding, that's how chinese people raise their children...in china, you can imagine all afterclass course, can you imagine they have skipping rope course? Writting course, poem course, etc...😂😂
This report fails to consider the experience of other countries’/ jurisdictions’ efforts to boost falling birth rates. Singapore, Quebec, Japan and South Korea have all tried various measures without success.
It also fails to point out that birthrates fall once societal wealth and institutions (pensions and insurance namely) are in place everywhere else in the world. China is no exception.
The problem is China is getting old before getting rich without the social/medical support and huge pension funds like developed countries.
The difference is that, does it comes naturally or as choice of the people to not married or having children, or is it from regulatory. Beside china is not as wealthy (averagely) as countries you mentioned. So the challenge are different
Yet at the same time, US is trying its best to stop China from developing. That exacerbates their predicament further. Its it moral or humane ? Or just power play at any cost?
Japan, Korea are already developed, and doesn’t need to grow 6% per year. Canada allows immigration and its population is increasing.
Dude do you know China still have 6 billion people with monthly income of less than 200 USD? Comparing it to other developed country is just plain stupid. Low birth rate from China is mostly coming from high economic pressure of unaffordable cost to raising a kid.
I'm in rural UK, it's a place where people prob have as many children as they want or don't want. It's normal to have one or two but it's also normal to have four or five. The country as a whole relies on some women having more than two along with immigration to keep population from dropping. Middle class, educated, city dwellers are not all going to change from one to two, but some rural working class women might like to have large families.
It's not comparable to the situation in China. China doesn't have a welfare program to help parents raise their children. No tax credit/deduction for family. Not even education is guaranteed. The Hukou(户口) system exacerbates the problem too.
@@hamish4659 Chinese don't like immigrants. They only welcome immigrants from the West, or other East Asian countries.
Or letting thousands of Muslims and Africans enter China? Come on, you already know what they've done in Germany and Sweden
As for other middle-income countries? why would they emigrate to China?
Well that’s the UK 🇬🇧, completely different situation.
The point I was making is if you want to increase population without immigration then aim at rural women, provide support for rural women, not at those with jobs living in urban areas. Also give up the idea of women all having the same number, focus on what will help the numbers.
The UK is a joke, people walking around with dogs, it's pathetic site, but they don't realize it.
There is no country in the world that should have over a billion people, and yet China is well on its way to getting to two billion. The crisis is one of too many people, not too few. Rather than trying to increase population, or even stabilize it at 1.5 billion (which is WAY too high, for anyone), there should be concerted efforts to continue to reduce it for centuries to more sustainable levels. This would increase the quality of life for everyone, including every Chinese person.
That is such a silly idea, the resources of a country and its cohesion and quality of life is all that matters. If a country can feed itself, be productive and not destroy the natural world, then population size is irrelevant. Russia is larger i geograpical terms than China and India combined. If Sibiria could actually grow enough food and the Russian govenment wasnt a catastrophe, there is no reason for Russia not having 2 billion people.
Also, China is not "is not well in its way to getting two billion", its population size has peaked and will have fallen to something like 500 million by the end of this century. By which time the population of Nigeria will be much larger (per present trends).
the problem is most families cant afford a second child.
the real estate prices are way to high and cant save extra money to raise a child.
secondly china high cost and harsh education, the parents know the harsh education that their child will go through.
wake up at 8:30 to study til 11 just to compete with other students around the country to go into a good university.
imagen to be the single child, the pressure on that child of their parents wanting that they become a doctor or some high paid job to make sure he can support them financially when they retire
combine that with the harsh educations and final test.
if your score is low, you wont be able to become a doctor and have a low possibility to have a good future.
thirdly no time! the 996 jobs doesnt give you time to raise children. the parents does the raising of the children for you but whats the point of raising a child when you will barely see him.
996 jobs meaning work from 9PM to 9AM 6days a week so ur just too tired for anything else.
How about doing it a little bit differently. Work for 7 till 6? Just wake up earlier and go home earlier! Alot of people all over the world work long hours and have children. Is renting expensive in China?
With mass unemployment (300M + at the last count)and starvation from severe food shortages looming, how are families to feed three children?
As the first generation of the one child policy, I totally benefit from it. Growing up my parents express how much they always want a boy to carry on the family name. If I have a brother, there is no doubt in my mind that they would treat me differently instead they have no choice to lavish me with all the resources they have. I now have 2 teenage children and they are not fond of each other. I always tell them how blissful to have a sibling growing up but they don't really care. It got me thinking maybe what I didn't have wasn't that ideal at all.
You do realize there's like 30 million men in your generation that literally can't find a native wife due to sex selection of kids born right? Abortion of women led to a skewed and disgusting sex ratio in your country. You think your two teenage kids not getting along was a mistake, yet you don't have an answer for literally 30 million men due to the one child policy? Can you see past your nose?
But im not surprised that a nation on single children would cause a generation to become extremely materialistic and narcissistic. This is basic psychology, sociology and economics determining the outcome of your culture.
@@henrytep8884 All my 5 male cousins are happily married. They all have steady jobs with moderate income. It's difficult to find a wife for low-income men living in the remote undeveloped area no matter which country you are. Without the one child policy, our parents would have many children since it was part of our culture back then. Girls born in some uneducated farmer's family would have been sold (marry) at a young age like 16 or 17 for money to guarantee the needs of the family boys. The majority of parents were just like my parents. Girls weren't their favor but would settle for just one girl. I heard there were some girls killed by their parents during birth in the rural area, but their life would have been horrible with parents who were capable of killing their own children any way. Both of my parents grow up starving especially my father because he has 4 brothers and 1 sister. Their parents struggled to feed four teenage boys back then. He's been telling me how lucky my generation is, and I appreciated that he still provided me with a good quality life giving that he was very disappointed with me being a girl. I get it...the western media always portrays that China and communism is evil, and the US is the savior of the world. It doesn't matter what I said, you would still be against it even though you might have never stepped foot into China. I am just telling you my experience, from a girl born in 1980 in China.
@@45876 Henry Tep is a propagandist. And he's probably not even paid, which makes him a stupid propagandist.
Your narcissism and ego must be through the roof 🤨😑
i wish the video had addressed how hard it is to be a mom. The first 6 month, you might have a kid that is colicky and cries a lot and you will do nothing for two hours straight except trying to sooth him. you will not be able to go to the bathroom by yourself for at least 6 months. In the USA last year 56000 pregnant women almost died, 1000 did. Being a mom is 24hr/7 and making money becomes impossible unless you make enough to hire a " mom" to sub in.
The birth rate has fallen because women make their own money and raising a kid means you are no longer a person for 6 years, you must put a little person's need before your own. Then when you go back to work, you will be paid nothing, your skills will be considered outdated and you will be seen as old.
The birth rate has fallen because of economics, women like being their own person. The 1 child policy created horror abortions in the past but it is irrelevant now.
I take care of my two boys by myself. Its tough. But its also a blessing, still worth it if you ask me. I was lucky that both are healthy. I sometime question it, but i think their brains work good enough :)
You are a hero ;-)
Alex, you match my reasoning for never having children perfectly.
I am not against anyone ...its the individuals choice keeping in mind the circumstances they have seen from birth and are in . its really very tough to raise a child more so over if one is financially unstable..but Its more of a thing that many women who had children defending themselves because if they dont...then they will be denying their very existence and till date what they have done in life..many even regrets in later stage but wont publicize it .
@@mikoto7693 ha ha so you dont want to be a hero :)
I don't know why a "stagnating" or "falling" birthrate is considered a problem for countries like China, who already is packing almost 1.5 billion humans into their cities. Must all populations continue to swell forever?
I guess its loosely based on an outdated idea that if a country doesn't "keep up" with other countries constantly churning out more humans, eventually they'll be overwhelmed by neighboring ones who are also endlessly multiplying.
In reality, in the case of India and Africa we'll be looking at countries crippled with millions of people without water, overburdened sewer systems, crowding and strained resources. A lighter, more efficient China if you will with slightly less people and a population under control, will have more room, space left over for nature, better quality of life for its citizens. Think about that....
Let's put it this way: doesn't matter how big your population is, what matters is how many children are being born. Let me make an absolutely unrealistic example, to make this point clearer: suppose a country's population is 1 billion, but absolutely nobody have kids. That billion people are not immortals, they will die, next generation that country will have a population of 0. Having children isn't necessarily about increasing population, it sometimes is a simple matter of keeping the current numbers at the next generation. If fertility rate is below 2.1 (the average amout of kids a woman has), the local population will decrease at the next generation (supposing that the migration balance isn't positive)
@@thelondoner1526 In areas of Nigeria the population is exploding so fast they can't keep up with expanding the sewer line infrastructure and toilets for the rising population, and its just in the ravines in the streets. Not making this up, look it up online. I guess that's healthy growing population then? Where does it end, there is only so much room and "resources" on this planet and we all take and pollute. And the oceans have become the world's sewer. Look at the Great Pacific garbage patch, Matanza/Riachuelo River, Deonar's rubbish mountains in India, etc.
@@c.rutherford just googled Nigeria's fertility rate (data of 2019): 5.3. Entirely different situation from China. The doc stated China's is around 1.3. The average nigerian woman has a whooping 4 more children than the average chinese. It's like comparing apples and oranges. Can't look at Nigeria and draw a case against raising fertility rate for China. If Chinese fertility rate doubled, it still wouldn't catch up with Nigeria
@@thelondoner1526 China's population is still growing packing in one additional citizen every second, it hasn't even started to decline.
They're at 1.450 billion today.
Just check Worldometer if you have any doubts. India is rising much faster.
China was only at 818.3 million when I was born, so it has almost doubled in population just during that time.
The idea that they are in some kind of population crisis, or that they would be if it actually started declining is just plain hyperbole.
And human beings could use a population decline. We are way, way overpopulated compared to every other animal our size or larger.
Humans: 7.96 billion worldwide
Giant Pandas: 1.8 thousand, no longer listed as endangered (WWF).
We have a long, long, longggg way to go before we are in danger of extinction.
well said!
Chinese people were interviewed on the street about having additional children and said they couldn't afford it.
Imagine that you live in a small town in this country.
There are 310,000 people in this small town.
You know that it’s time to stop giving birth
Very expensive =,= and now the future is unsure.
The one child policy, no matter how absurd it may sound, feels like a necessary sacrifice for the sake of economic growth. Now that China's economy is booming, children don't have to be born into poverty and get to live a more comfortable life. It's sad but it seems like it was worth it. Honestly people should really consider their own financial stability, social standing and whether they can support a child while being able to provide some modern comforts. As a person whose parents weren't exactly well off when they had me, it was rough on them and sometimes I feel like I was an unnecessary burden on them. There were some times when my parents couldn't buy me things I wanted, but they really tried their best. So please, if you're considering having a child, see if you're qualified to do so first.
But what about the rural areas? Those places are still terrible. It's only the cities that are prosperous.
this should be beyond the jurisdictional power of any government.
I live in America and frankly I 100% feel why people aren’t having children. Most people are crippled by student debt, high prices for gas/groceries/basic living essentials now along with an insane housing market where buying a house or renting costs are very high. A child takes money and time; a full time job means you have to pay for childcare and schooling since you can’t take care of them during the day or homeschool. That costs money which means that if you’re already just getting by okay you’re going to struggle. Additionally, necessary items for a kid aren’t cheap. Plus there is a huge responsibility with kids; you are raising a helpless human that you are 100% responsible for and that has costs for a family. If you’re a girl it means your career often and if you’re a guy it’s pressure to earn a lot so you can support your family
I'm a boomer. The average family when I was a kid had 4 to 6 kids. If you were a Catholic family, it was twice that. I remember families back then that had 10 or 12 kids. Dad worked full time, Mom might work part-time "mother's hours" between babies, but stayed home when there were preschoolers in the house unless a grandmother could babysit. And they got by. Their lives were spartan by today's standards, but lives were simpler back then and nobody noticed the spartan part of it because that's how everyone lived.
They’d rather import more low IQ people who are easier to control than have our core population reproduce.
Maybe you also consider the false and outdated social and economic policies and theories that are being used to organize society. For example ----needing a master degree to do a job were college diploma sufficient.( spent the best part of life paying you don't need. Living on your credit cards so as to keep up friends.
Wanting everything NOW.
50 YEAR AGO YOUR PARENTS RAISED 5 children and lived happier and longer than ''YOU"
Infertility is also due to weak immune system and poor diet(too MUCH hamburgers and alcohol '/ narcotic drugs. What is required today is better LIFE STYLE
I am beginning to think the government thought they had a say in the success of the one child policy but in fact, it was because families got more educated and wanted to be financially successful. removing the policy would do nothing since it never caused the rapid birth decline in the first place. if you want to increase birth rates u gotta limit education and that is never gonna happen.
The government promoted abortions and forced sterilization of women. That combined with the cost of living has impacted society.
@@sivartb7273 Promoted abortion do effect birthrate due to its widespread use and gives irresponsible people excuse to have unprotected sex. Forced sterilization exist in the past but not in wide spread and in no affect the birth rate. 99% of one child policy enforcement comes in the form of monetary fines and not forced sterilization. By the way, the govt has reversed abortion attitude and makes it much harder to get abortion now due to excessive abortion by irresponsible people and propping up the population.
+Nuclear Dog it’s not education but option. The more a woman work, the less she want kids (too tired and stressful)
@@YouYou-sm8tf yeah I agree. It is really hard to give up on the career u developed to take care of children.
@@nucleardog6675 Limiting education is a suicide for the economy. Having low skilled population = low income = low purchasing power = lower consumption. Lower taxation = the country will get poorer.
And life is getting expensive, housing, healthcare, daycare, ...to survive in an expensive country, you need to have a good job with good salary and you can only achieve that with education.
So raising kids is a financial risk. It’s better to not have kids than having kids and struggling.
If gouvernement want to increase birthrate, they need to subsdize everything related to kids (free childbirth, free daycare... more financial support during a woman’s pregnancy...easier to rent appartment for family....)
The 1 child policy really made some mess..If you can think of a pyramid, the family organization is an inversed pyramid.
The elderly at top, have 2 old couples (4person) whom are parents of a married couple (2 person) then bottom is their child(1person).
The married couple need to take care elderly and newborn is quite stressful. And if the kid grew up and grand parent still around, the new kid gotta take care all of them. Life never easy.
In the 1960s in Australia, it was common for couples to have three or four children and for the mother to stay home and provide domestic services for the whole family. So one taxpayer supported 5 or 6 people and that didn't include the grandparents.
It is not "indoctrination" but economic pressure that causes young couples to prefer one child now. They are making a conscious choice not to do so, calling this "indoctrination" insults their intelligence.
They were indoctrinated to believe that having more than 1 child is burdensome. In psychology, it is easier for people to cooperate with you if you can convince them to convince themselves that you're right. In this case, it was shifting the narrative for having many kids being a positive thing (E.g values: bringing more joy, prosperity) to something negative (e.g values: financial burden, unnecessary display of greed) . Thus, the initiative was motivated by economical reasons with its methology being a combination of psychological manipulation and physical enforcement.
Today, not only China Chinese but many ethnic Chinese living in SEA have negative perception towards having more than 1 child, yet alone 2 or more.
Denying indoctrination aspect dooms humanity to repeat the same mistake, and its incredibly foolish for any sane human being to shill for such a despicable tyrannical organisation such as the CCP.
@@SupaL33tKillar Can't it be a bit of both? For such complex social phenomena as birth rates, there is never one factor.
And pointing to the economic pressure is also a critique on the CCP,. They are responsible for the current extremely expensive educational system (not only school, but also lots of private tutoring) and the immensenly expensive properties.
@@sjoerdglaser2794 it is definitely "a little of both" as how I described it; economically driven through psychological coercion.
This comment tried denying the psychological aspects by attributing it to "simple a financial decision no biggie" which does a great disservice to people like my grandma and her family who suffered greatly in the 20th century.
@@SupaL33tKillar That is a fair point. It was OP who was one sided.
@@SupaL33tKillar To have more than one child is burdensome. Not indoctrination, it is reality in all the world. University fee per child
As a Chinese, I think that's fine. We do not need so many people. It's been a crowd place for a while.
The impact on Chinas economy will be extremely drastic, you will have to be prepared to deal with india overtaking China on a lot of levels since Chinas fast growing economic miracle has come at the expense of a large working population
@@zenpai5998 india overtaking China in any time? Joke of the day.
@ZH Zin is it a joke that Chinas population will be 730 million by 2066? That’s joke of the century… 😂
@@zenpai5998 india is a dump of a country
It will be difficult for a few decades, but when China's population is 50% of present levels, life will be much easier and better for Chinese people - and China will still have 700 million people
It's great🤗Hope the population will drop to 300million
Invading Taiwan will insure a population drop of at least a million, either through combat losses or from the economic crash resulting from sanctions and companies moving out forever as has happened in Russia.
China may be an economic marvel right now but all it will take is one stupid decision by Xi and it all goes away.
Bro it’s kinda funny that they got all panicked as soon as the consequences of the actions actually impacted them. There’s not enough young people to take care of me when I’m old now! Must force women to have kids
The fact that middle class humans would rather have 10 cat (=^ェ^=) in their apartment than having a partner and or child/family. Changed my mind
I would rather have a partner and a Dachshund. Cats are evil incarnate.
Cats require very little active care. Even a busy full time worker doing overtime hours, can take care of the most basic needs of more than one cat. I'm talking most basic maintenance, all the person would need to do is put out food and water once a day, or could even use automatic dispensers that they'd only need to refill once a week or something, and with enough litter boxes they would only need to clean them out every few days or up to a week (great for those taking business trips).
Also although cats are actually often more vocal than dogs and can be rather loud at times, they're not nearly as loud as a larger dog that barks (although most dogs wouldn't bark unless they're alarmed by say someone attempting to break in).
And many apartments, landlords etc. won't allow dogs but may allow cats, or people sneak in their cats (which they never take outside so they're never seen and discovered).
Dogs on the other hand, generally require outdoor exercise and to go pee and poop a few times a day. Some people can train their smaller dogs to use indoor absorbent pads, or their bathroom floor. But that requirea training, whereas most cats require no training to use litter boxes as it's instinctual.
Cat care therefore is the easiest and requires the least time input, and can be done whenever the owner has a few spare minutes (great for shift workers or an irregular schedule, or late hours etc. or for regular travelers). Easy to leave cats for even a week alone in the home.
In contrast, kids require a lot of time, effort and care. And a lot of money - most Chinese want to provide extra classes and private tutoring, especially academic stuff and English classes as well as vacation camps and so on, which all cost a lot, on top of food, clothing (gotta keep up with the Joneses and buy brand names etc.) healthcare etc.
A couple living in a studio (1 bedroom/living room) could easily keep 2 cats. But can you imagine them with 2 kids who keep growing? 2 adults and 2 kids aged say 5~12, in a studio???
If China wants a bigger population, they need to think what type of country would a child would grow up best in. The need to have economic growth freedom, good educational systems, probably give free handouts to women from other countries to balance the men and women ratio, and avoid bad ideology in schools. Maybe teach respect each other instead of bad ideology in schools.
And we find all those requirements in Germany which has a birth rate of 1.6; we don't know how much smaller it would be without those subsidies, but they don't safe the Germans from going extinct. Same is true for most western countries to similar degrees...
Lower birthrate is great for China. Every time I go there, there are like a gazillion people waiting in line for everything. People cut in line like they don't exist. Just people people people everywhere. If China's population density is the same as those in the Nordic countries, then the Chinese society would be much happy, and less cut throat.
WHY do they refer to their kid as 'THE CHILD' as if the government gave them the children.
I remember hearing about the "one child policy" when it was first implemented. I was a teenager at the time and I had no concept of what it meant, but I knew how it would affect the long term. I also remember hearing stories of people leaving the country due to this policy.
Be safe and be 😎
Its an absolute joke that China would be worried about popuation loss. Their population has almost doubled from 800 million to 1.5 billion, in just my lifetime alone and its still increasing today.
In other words, they've added more than twice the population of the U.S. ALONE in that time. The total number of Chinese hasn't decreased by a single person yet.
one child sounded always to harsh especially in a country where the wanted a boy and not girls if the just made it 1 step more complicated like if u got a girls u can try for a second child but no more than that it would have solved a lot of trouble
Heavy government involvement in citizens' family planning, can be terrifying.
I have seen the photo's of forced third trimester abortions and heard the stories of (mostly female) infants abandoned on the streets.
On the other hand, I have read about abortion and contraception bans in other countries.
In other words forced births. Even when there are medical contra indications.
Indian fertility rates are also declining btw
yes, Young generation has strong decision which parents could never force them to give a birth.
The ccp got what they wanted. One child policy
It doesn’t matter if you come from a small family or a huge family, I am from a large family, I don’t desire more kids, simply because my body and energy. I just feel tired to engage with kids. I have one child and living in U.S.
I find it rather odd that the tone of this, and a lot of other documentaries, is that having a smaller population is a BAD thing. I disagree.
That is a personal view that will change once you look at the big picture. Governments around the world are of the view that it is bad.
In the West, which leads in the phenomenon of low birth rates have to import talents to sustain the economy. Taxes need to be generated for national expenses.
Pensions need to be funded. Likewise the infrastructure and services. Westerners were having increased proportions of the aged.
Take Australia as an example. Brits were preferred until supply ran dry post WW2 when rebuilding was in full swing. Australia accepted "inferior" second grade non-English speaking Europeans. It then also admitted non-Christian Middle Easterners. Finally in the late 70's, Asians were admitted when Vietnamese refugees were allowed to land in Darwin.
They (the immigrants) continued to sustain the wellbeing of the Australian nstion. Fact. It is not altruism. It is pragmatism.
@@wongcw08 The point is that the economy, creation and distribution of wealth will change to accommodate the lower population. It's inevitable.
@@kimweaver1252 It is an interesting perception. In the US, this has proven to be just the opposite. Being capitalistic, tax revenue is generated through economic activities that that dependent on the capital of the rich. So the US government offers tax cut to retain capital in the economy. So the rich gets richer at the expense of the poor.
In more socialist countries such as the Scandinavian states, Singapore and China, the state actively participate in the economy and the returns are ploughed back to the people. In Singapore, the government mobilises government reserves and also the mandatory superannuation funds into the equity market. The returns goes back on the form on dividends or givebacks in various form.
China on the other hand reigns on the rich corporations by getting them to give back to society and they call it Shared Prosperity.
It is the way the country is governed. That is why in Asia, we see American style capitalism and Sino-style people-centred models of government. I am Malaysian but we'll versed with my heritage (Chinese). Psychologically we are conditioned and brought up to always understand that the bigger picture overrides individual interests. You can have your freedom to pursue your dreams but respect bigger interests.
Like the 1 child policy, many of China's laws are short-sighted and not well thought out. China could loosen its immigration policies, but with its tight fisted Communistic rule and horrid pollution, it'd be hard to do that. I don't see China solving this problem.
China has seen the consequences of mass immigration to western countries, even with their terrible birth rate they don’t want to make the same mistake western nations did
“Well, well if it isn’t the consequences of my own actions.”
I country can be built up with shortsighted laws, force labor,horrid pollution, please use your brain.
Who in there right mind would want to immigrate to China lol.
If china receives immigrants from syria, they may feel huge cultural gap and could reject them almost right away. The culture is just way too much different
Chang Rui and her husband can rise 3 kids only because they have above average income, unlike many Chinese families. It is impractical to have more than one child in China because of the high cost of living. The video should inform the watcher HOW MUCH the family is earning, not just present the predicament of many.
I remenber someone that told how one time a guy in his university was in awe at how he had several brothers and shocked as how most people had brothers, he was the only one in his family, not brothers or sisters, but also not cousins, he asked "how it feels to have a brother?" and he couldn't really respond
I met a mother with three children in Beijing in 2020. I'd learned a little Chinese and asked her whether all three kids were hers and she said yes. She was fascinated to see and talk to me because I was a foreigner. But I was even more fascinated to see a mother of three in Beijing!
should have been a two children policy from the very beginning.
we have the right to choose extinction. no more brining any more humans into the world. no more children.
Should have no policy or limit to begin with
Well too much population how would you go handle it then?
India and the rest of the top 12 countries need birth regulations. China is exempted and the US.
shouldn't have encouraged people to have 7, 8 children from the very beginning in Mao's era...
Economy rises, costs more to have more than one kid, what are the chances, the country can help to bear half the costs, least will help with the birth rate!?
Back in high school I learnt bout the one child policy, I think that could be the main reason why there was so many children abandoned and being adopted overseas, then 5years earlier I read in the news about the 2nd child policy but well, now it seems like there’s a setback in the plan.
What is interesting is that from the year 1949 - 1980 the population nearly doubled despite the fact that the great leap backward caused the starvation of 50 million people.
They had a lot of kids. The amount of people who died is a staggering tragedy, but it was about at most 10% of the total population. As long as people had children, it was possible to keep the population growing.
If China did not have the one child policy, instead of 1.4 billion people today, it would be over 3 billion people without this policy. Where would the additional resources come from?
I don't see the point to having children. If I understand why children are of value to me personally, then I will consider it more, but I don't value having children. Don't see the point.
your retirement, dying alone
Children used to be a safe investment vehicle. In the old days, they were a source of cheap labor and were morally obligated to take care of their parents in their old age. Parents were rewarded financially for having a bunch of uneducated kids. Nowadays, automation has killed the demand for cheap uneducated human labor and labor laws guarantee that parents won't see any return on investment for at least 2 decades. Children have become terrible investments, so the only people who have kids are those who actually like them.
Can’t agree more. Having kids is pointless. We all die alone. No matter what.
Exactly. Look at the comments here, some simply treat children as as a tool to fulfill investment/retirement/tradition. Having a child is definitelynot the only way to live a fulfilling life. I were to born into parents thinking like this I'd be disappointed.
@@dxelson Everyone dies alone so you don’t make sense. You’re spirit don’t make you’re offsprings to die with you. You’re dumb
i feel this video is very one sided, only shows better off couples in cities like Shanghai, Beijing and Shenzhen. What about lower tier cities? Economic migrants from the countryside? They make up the vast amount of workforce in China no?
Their issue of Male to female ratio is an issue too. Too many baby girls aborted in favor of boys resulted in fewer women to have the babies.
1. Lessen the workload for families.
2. Families need basic necessities. Especially housing and daycare.
3. Pair-up the people who actually want to have a family. Because dating nowadays is a nightmare.
In a couple of decades, if AI takes off the question might be: what shall we do with this huge population of humans who are not useful any more economically.
Another factor to consider is climate change.
Automation is already showing us the results, those who can't be re educated are left behind.
AI will create other extra jobs. Growing populations are always useful. Otherwise the society starts to die and innovation ceases.
@@SimplyMartin AI will only create a small no. of jobs
Universal income will be given to unemployed to keep up with consumption.
@@pearlyung168 Yeah, that will be great! Being fed like pigs in the pigsty. 😂
They already have a lot of population. Instead of trying to rise population they should focus on what to do if population decreases. Ai tech and robot industry would be nice for them.
Truth like is it that big a deal that they can’t maintain their current population? 1.5 billion is A LOT of people. I see that number going down as a positive thing. Now that thing are getting more automated, they can definitely substitute certain things with tech if the need rises
@@fuchsia02 Problem isnt population going down. Problem is working age people cant support retired old people. So they need to maintain working people not population numbers per se. In fact if they killed retired people and gave the pension benefit to child support it would be easier to maintain the population although it isn't morally acceptable.
@@exosproudmamabear558 okay this does make much more sense now. I wasn’t understanding why the population just generally decreasing would be an issue but if there isn’t enough young to support the old, I see how it can result in a crisis
As a Chinese woman, I don't want to have kids, no matter I have husband or not, no matter I have enough money or not .
I want to share a story from a friend of mine from when I was attending Texas Christian University: We had a Government & History course together in 2015, so when the Chinese Communist Party ended the 1 Child Policy, she shared what it was like for her. She was from China & born in the early 1990s, but because of this her family was permitted to have 2nd child & 10 years later her sister was born. She told me how growing up there was some issues being a girl with so many boys around in a country that desired sons, as well as the issue of being so much older than her sister. Finally, she said she enjoyed hearing stories from American classmates who grew up with multiple siblings as if it was no big deal.
From an outsider's perspective, China having this 1 Child Policy as the norm for over 20 years has been ingrained in many Chinese citizens that suddenly ending it & trying to encourage couples to have multiple children will be economic burden for many. Furthermore, in some parts of China the male to female ratio is over 3 to 1 so having a new generation of young couples solve this population problem will be difficult.
To be fair, any developed country would see their birth rate plunge, firstly because they have more expensive cities to live in, secondly higher education means they want to achieve more in life than just having babies
The documentary doesn’t mention the problem of gender imbalance, which is also a huge factor that impacts not only brith rate but also social morale. In generally, women are treated unfairly and poorly as both a group and individuals. Due to many factors, the society and the families (many of them, not all of them) still prefer male over female, boys than girls.
Well that's on men if they do such. Men will be the reason they fall. A disciple asked" how long will a man be subject to death"
Jesus answers" until a women bears children"
So men can act like they can reproduce and birth babies but there consequences will not go unpunished for there bad treatment of women.
The way women are treated is the way men will be treated one day what goes around comes back around. Well I guess men can keep the population going on there own. Lucky women they don't have to deal with bs on earth anymore.
as an antinatalist i support a 0 birth policy. id rather not exist than do gaokao and then work 996 til age 50 if im lucky enough to get a job and not get incarcerated for political dissidence
agree
if standard of living going too high , it give tremendous pressure to the future generations
Canada has 1.46 fertility rate and that just because the immigration. Japan has 1.3 ,South Korea too. Italy 1,24. Spain 1,23 The rate fertility grow us in proportion of the grad of poverty. Nigeria 5,3 Ethiopia 4.25 Also the rate of mortality of kids and mother are highest. In China more than a 1mill young people graduate university each year. The quality of the young generation is very high.
They should bring couple from Nigeria , Niger, Pakistan , Bangladesh and certain area of India as well. Japan and South Korea should do that too
Problem is, theres too many white collar gradurates and too little blue collar ones
You're comparing it in wrong way. Many countries you listed such Italy, Japan, Spain was already established global power before 21th century, they have reached the peak of civilization then birthrate further declining like now.
We are talking about SUPERPOWER now, not just global power.
China was different because they only become relevant in modern world since 30-40 years ago when Deng open the special economic zone in China.
China was aiming for domination, path of superpower, unlike other country. Just how can you fuel the drive for 40-60 years in the future if majority are elderly? Not to mention China haven't become superpower yet
@@muhammadhaikalpermanaatmaj73 Yes, very true (although Spain's economy only surged after Franco died, amd Italy was already on the decline as a power when they joined the Axis powers in WW2. Of course, their economy was rebuilt in post WW2 but not so much their power).
And a big problem will be a lack of manpower for the CCP's armed forces and party officials who enforce Chinese compliance to party rules. You need young fit people to maintain a huge army.
But how many will be left over to work in the economy and bring in income?
Something's gotta give...
@@freeman4899 no they don't not China is xenophobic nation.
This documentary could be shortened to 20 minutes long one instead of being 45 minutes. Too many times there's re-telling the same things they already said. I feel like this documentary first was on TV with multiple adds between so they had to remind viewers after every TV commercial break, what the documentary was about.
That 37k USD average annual income for an average first-tier labour force is a DAY DREAM. Average monthly salary in SH in 2021 was 10338 CNY, which is appx 1522 USD, which makes 18273 USD a year rather than 37k USD. People don't even make half of 37k USD. Have no idea where the data come from. One thing also funny is that local people don't even know the median value. If we have basic knowledge of math we'd know median value is where the most numbers lie around.
Any idea what the huge citrus fruit is, starting at 7:50 ?
Objectively speaking, the underlining narratives should focus on what should be done now to improve the situation rather than focusing only on population growth rate. Prosperity for ALL is a VISION which should be embraced by all government instead of the plutocracy system which is dividing the US. At a certain point, there will be a revolt in the US if the poor are not well taken care of. Also Japan economic decline is not due to population growth rate but rather due to the US government direct intervention to suppress the rise of Japan.
Good, this means people are awakened to reality.
Telling young people to have 3 childrens and work "996"?
2:29 man this guy got handles haha
Prosperity is the best contraception.
This is very eye opening. Now I understand the rationale behind some of the drastic policies in China now.
And even CCP obvious effort on discouraging homosexuality isn't actually about homophobia but rather about its economic impact as China's birth rate continues to decline.
Even their focus on robotics now makes sense. While the rest of the world are fearing China for their advance robotics industry, we failed to understand what is driving force for this.
"And even CCP obvious effort on discouraging homosexuality isn't actually about homophobia"
- Its about homophobia. People don't "turn" gay or become less gay because a government is harassing them in some odd hope they can force them into shame and hiding, followed by marriage and children.
@@j2174 you've got to learn China's history more to know how they see gay people. Historically speaking they even had a gay emperor.
I'd like to know if you are even aware of the term they used for gay? Do you know that China allows gay couple to legally own a property to their names? Is that what you would say homophobia??
Having children is always a poor economic choice for a couple.
I think what the present government is trying to put in place might have an impact on the people's way of thinking and I hope that it is a breakthrough!
The 400 million overseas Chinese can help China rebuild its talent pools of the future.
That's not even a problem, I think the world needs to reduce birth rate.. dude do we have to wait for scarcity to come to reality?
Maybe the government should make education cheaper for families? They’re spending a lot sending their kids to school. I’m sure I’m missing a lot of info on the subject but financial incentives will definitely motivate certain couples.
How can China be influenced so that the parents do not strongly prefer having sons to having daughters? The gender imbalance there has caused problems that have rippled across the world. If the people have sons with no daughters, they only give those sons a bad life. But the people also traditionally retire off of their son's work. This organization of society needs to be addressed so that there is not an economic incentive to abort girls and have boys. Its not really a choice if they have to do it for money reasons.
The boys over girls belief is so ingrained in not only China but many other countries that it’ll by impossible to get rid of it in time. Especially because many people are obsessed with the idea of continuing their bloodline which they believe girls can’t do since they “ marry out” instead of bringing someone in
There are about 300 million Chinese men unable to have a wife because of the gender imbalance.
That's why there are so many Chinese men going to other Asia countries to get a wife or girlfriend.
Maybe the CCP would realize its God complex is a bad idea lol
Maybe your mom would realize how regretful to have you born lol
@@johnnyw6467 why so salty Amir haha
They are still at 1-billion and growing. No need to press that panic button.
What’s striking is how similar this is to the US.
the cycle of the population..... the living burden is too high, children become unaffordable; the population will shrink; more and better opportunities for people due to less population; better income; can afford more children; population increase; living burden pressure; and the cycle continues