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  • There is a certain section of Doctor Who's 'fanbase' who stopped watching the show after David Tennant left. Thankfully, Mummy on the Orient Express provides the perfect way back into the series.
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  • @ATypicalPlague
    @ATypicalPlague Před 6 lety +4275

    To anyone who skipped Matt Smith's run, I implore you to watch the Van Gogh episode. It is basically self contained and an exceptionally beautiful episode.

    • @comicconcarne
      @comicconcarne Před 6 lety +295

      Vincent and The Doctor is such a comfy episode. I feel like Series Five has a nostalgia tinge for me, so I'm pretty biased when judging the episodes, but people who randomly find the museum director's speech about Van Gogh at the end of that episode say that they want to start watching the show.

    • @dharabarot4033
      @dharabarot4033 Před 6 lety +19

      That is my favorite episode

    • @lisquidsnake
      @lisquidsnake Před 6 lety +2

      maybe like 1 or 2 MS episodes worth watching

    • @meris8486
      @meris8486 Před 6 lety +38

      Also The Doctors Wife

    • @bazinga743
      @bazinga743 Před 6 lety +18

      It could’ve had a really good ending, them showing them his paintings in the future but it still wasn’t enough to stop his depression but it was ruined by a painting saying for Amy.

  • @andrewv5748
    @andrewv5748 Před 5 lety +2155

    Don't forget the classic line: "Are you my mummy?" That's a memorable classic should have been included in the video.

    • @KlintKaras
      @KlintKaras Před 5 lety +43

      Im glad I wasnt the only one who caught that.

    • @Stupid_Productions
      @Stupid_Productions Před 5 lety +8

      I caught that as well but i cant watch those 2 episodes

    • @Stupid_Productions
      @Stupid_Productions Před 5 lety +7

      @Geoff Nattrass it's to creepy the mix of the mask and the acting

    • @Stupid_Productions
      @Stupid_Productions Před 5 lety +8

      @Geoff Nattrass I saw it as a rerun and a few months ago I went on iplayer and tried to face it but it was just the memories of how much I was scared of it

    • @troytipple3134
      @troytipple3134 Před 5 lety +4

      @@Stupid_Productions Same, But a couple weeks back i watched them (While Holding a cushion to my face) and realised it wasn't as scary, it was as ifi had built it up as being so scary i was underwhelmed.

  • @WiloPolis03
    @WiloPolis03 Před 5 lety +276

    Love how the Twelfth Doctor began as a grumpy and stubborn hero and died as a kind college professor

  • @BestgirlJordanfish
    @BestgirlJordanfish Před 6 lety +1335

    Holy shit the Capaldi arc is fantastic, but stumbles in the start.

    • @fatesrequiem
      @fatesrequiem Před 5 lety +76

      Capaldi’s term starts....very weak and meandering with slight glimpses of the Doctor hitting his stride...until Series 9. Series 9 kicks you in the teeth with a fully formed Capaldi doctor and is amazing start to finish.

    • @AhsimNreiziev
      @AhsimNreiziev Před 4 lety +8

      +[SkyriderRJM]
      Because of, shall we say.... personal reasons, I can't help but comment even after 8+ months on this one bit:
      _"Series 9 kicks you in the teeth with a fully formed Capaldi doctor and is amazing start to finish."_
      This is true, as the final Episode of Series 9 is called _Heaven Sent_ , a true Peter Capaldi tour-de-force, barring the Christmas Special with River Song of course which is also very good. But really, _Hell Bent_ is the worst _Doctor Who_ Episode ever created, and the only Episode of the show I have ever actively despised.

    • @josefgreen9306
      @josefgreen9306 Před 4 lety +3

      @@AhsimNreiziev nah the worst ep is love of monsters

    • @AhsimNreiziev
      @AhsimNreiziev Před 4 lety +1

      +[Josef Green]
      First, let's be pedantic: it's "Love *&* Monsters".
      Secondly, there are some things to like about _Love & Monsters_ , specifically the group dynamic of L.I.N.D.A. and how it affectionately parodies the Whovian fan culture. The stone slab bj gag was, however, the single worst attempt at a "joke" ever written for _Doctor Who_ .
      But _Hell Bent_ ruined a major part of the show's lore by dismissing Gallifrey like a piece of worthless trash, it ruined an intriguing Series Arc of The Hybrid, it ruined the single *best* Episode of DW (outside of _Day of the Doctor_ which is "hors categorie") in _Heaven Sent_ by trampling all over the grief-metaphor of that Episode, and most unforgivable for me personally it ruined absolute most perfect exit of any Companion ever, and of my personal favourite Companion of all time at that _[and yes I know that's not exactly a popular opinion]_ , namely Clara's death in _Face the Raven_ .
      There are some minor things in _Hell Bent_ that were decent, maybe even some that were good -- like making it very clear that wiping someone's mind against someone's will is *horrific* , thus doing at least something against the atrocious precedent set all the way back with _Journey's End_ -- but it ruined so many so very important things, that no other Episode of the show even comes close to how horrible it is, and likely no future Episode ever will.

    • @josefgreen9306
      @josefgreen9306 Před 4 lety +2

      @@AhsimNreiziev it doesn't rlly matter if it love and monsters or love & monsters it's the same thing and one thing just one thing that makes that ep the worst... concrete slab blow jobs

  • @crackcorn0404
    @crackcorn0404 Před 3 lety +137

    One of my favorite thing he's done to show he cares is when he goes back to take pictures of Bill's mom so that she would have pictures of her. He does this before she becomes his companion. Really touching moment.

    • @alyssinclair8598
      @alyssinclair8598 Před 2 lety +12

      it sorta shows the compassionate time travel you can do even with fixed points. is defo why the doctor is so loveable (and why i use that season as an entrypoint)

  • @b_.k.h.r._xe9900
    @b_.k.h.r._xe9900 Před 5 lety +777

    Doctor: I'm not your boyfriend Clara
    Clara: I never said you were
    Doctor: I never said it was your mistake.
    Me: *SCREAMS*

    • @nicolesong6199
      @nicolesong6199 Před 4 lety +76

      right? but 12's not her boyfriend, he puts her in danger all the time. he's been upgraded to a space husband

    • @nicolesong6199
      @nicolesong6199 Před 4 lety +21

      @LittleRedRhuari RRR oohoo. first a boyfriend now a space husband

    • @needle3605
      @needle3605 Před 4 lety +9

      @LittleRedRhuari RRR Doctor has been upgraded

    • @isismember-sucidepilot7292
      @isismember-sucidepilot7292 Před 4 lety +2

      @LittleRedRhuari RRR NO

    • @examination4088
      @examination4088 Před 4 lety +1

      @LittleRedRhuari RRR No

  • @TheScrollsOfGaming
    @TheScrollsOfGaming Před 6 lety +1298

    Finally a video that isn't hating on the 12th Doctor era, I personally think it's one of the strongest eras of Doctor Who.

    • @FullFatVideos
      @FullFatVideos  Před 6 lety +237

      I loved Capaldi. His era gets a bad rap. Sure there's a lot of problems but Doctor Who has had quality consistency all over the place since Hartnell!

    • @davincic0der
      @davincic0der Před 6 lety +23

      You're not alone mate, evidently! I too hope for a revision in the future, but regardless there's nothing wrong with being a late Sylvester McCoy type-era - generally dismissed but appreciated by lovers of the offbeat and magical.

    • @tsukopara2054
      @tsukopara2054 Před 6 lety +12

      I think it's the issue of Clara. A lot of 12's episodes would have been much better if he'd just had a good companion before Bill.

    • @davincic0der
      @davincic0der Před 6 lety +39

      I think she gets too much stick too honestly. She's far from my favourite companion, isn't Bill and Nardole's dynamic, and is definitely a weak character in Series 7 but she serves the arcs perfectly in Series 8 and 9, and is much more rounded to boot. Her continued presence after Series 7 leaves a sour taste that unfairly rubs off on the era for sure, I just think Coleman's performance and Clara's development do his series more good than bad overall.

    • @SpectrumStorms
      @SpectrumStorms Před 5 lety +7

      I find Capaldi's era underrated. If you ask me, he's the second best actor to play The Doctor (Colin Baker's first). If there's an era that needs to be hated, it's Smith's era.

  • @lucypreece7581
    @lucypreece7581 Před 6 lety +643

    Mummy on the Orient Express is a very underrated episode. I very much like it. I love how the doctor is kind of brought nack to basics a little bit and hasnt got all the information so you can see the wheels turning in je head as he tried to solve the mystery. I like the setting how it starts of all older wolrdy vintage period drama style but then its like a gleaming spotless laboratory. Just really good episode. I feel for those who saw tennant but not smeith but want to see Capaldi this is a very good jumping on point.i dunno what a good jumping on point wpuld be for Smith though. Let me get back to you on that one.

    • @FullFatVideos
      @FullFatVideos  Před 6 lety +36

      Yeah the feel of it is great- a bit Bioshock-esque or at least that's what always springs to mind. For Smith I think watching Series 5 in it's entirety is probably the best bet- but if not, the Angels two parter would be my pick!

    • @lucypreece7581
      @lucypreece7581 Před 6 lety +15

      I would agree with that. Again that two part jumps straight into the action, has high stakes, high body count, Amy is in immediate danger which ups the pressure and it is another up the pressure back to basics think quickly situation. And the resolution at the end and the bas ass way he says "basically angels night night" is just the best. A great two parter. Ang i agree a great jumping on point for those who have not seen Matt Smith era

    • @kanashimi4356
      @kanashimi4356 Před 6 lety +4

      You should do a video on those episodes come to think of it, for everyone that stopped watching in 2010 but now wants continue where they left off.

    • @BlueSparxLPs
      @BlueSparxLPs Před 6 lety +2

      I don't know if I'd call it underrated. From what I've seen, it's received quite a lot of acclaim.

    • @meris8486
      @meris8486 Před 6 lety +5

      The Eleventh Hour is a great jumping on point

  • @ThePonderer
    @ThePonderer Před 6 lety +686

    I actually think Eleventh Hour is a pretty good place to start, not just for Matt Smith but the show as a whole. The eleventh Doctor “cooking” felt less intrusive there since, of all the Doctor’s Eleven felt the most fully formed from the moment he showed up.

    • @elliebrooke3987
      @elliebrooke3987 Před 5 lety +36

      The only thing I don't like the is the lack of Smith's bowtie.

    • @martinmcdonagh8444
      @martinmcdonagh8444 Před 4 lety +21

      @@elliebrooke3987 bowties are cool!

    • @elliebrooke3987
      @elliebrooke3987 Před 4 lety +9

      @@martinmcdonagh8444 they are indeed

    • @jessicaable5095
      @jessicaable5095 Před 4 lety +2

      And skip the Russell T era? You're having a laugh 😂

    • @isiltalks389
      @isiltalks389 Před 4 lety +6

      @@jessicaable5095 I....I actually skipped the Russell era.... I stan sherlock and just needed more moffart so I started from the 11th hour... I never watched tennant.... But to be fair, I did whatch the best tennant episodes

  • @Mrazmatmahmood
    @Mrazmatmahmood Před 6 lety +573

    Time Heist could be another good entry point to the twelfth Doctor imo. A really underrated episode.

    • @loyalcompanion2104
      @loyalcompanion2104 Před 6 lety +56

      Flatline is also really good

    • @Mrazmatmahmood
      @Mrazmatmahmood Před 6 lety +57

      @@loyalcompanion2104 Oh, hi again! 😀 Yes, Flatline is an incredibly innovative, brilliant episode, but is it really the best episode as an introduction to the Twelfth Doctor? Clara is clearly the focal point of that episode, not 12. Under the Lake/Before the Flood is another story that could function as a great entry point to the Twelfth Doctor. I love that two parter.

    • @loyalcompanion2104
      @loyalcompanion2104 Před 6 lety +1

      I would say it is because its the first time we see the doctor give an epic speech

    • @Mrazmatmahmood
      @Mrazmatmahmood Před 6 lety +5

      @@loyalcompanion2104 While that's true, the focus for most of the episode still isn't on 12, but Clara. I don't think it's the best episode to introduce someone to the twelfth Doctor because of this. There are better episodes for that, where he's much more of a focus throughout the episode.

    • @dankerbell
      @dankerbell Před 5 lety

      @@loyalcompanion2104 flatline is just after this so you should just watch it chronologically

  • @0megaFan
    @0megaFan Před 4 lety +75

    "You knew this would be dangerous!?"
    "No, I never knew... I certainly _hoped._
    God I love these two.

  • @GloomyFish
    @GloomyFish Před 6 lety +253

    Honestly Mummy on the Orient Express is one of my favourite episodes

  • @ishaanthewonderboy
    @ishaanthewonderboy Před 6 lety +1343

    Your friend is crazy, man. Tell him to watch Matt Smith's doctor.

    • @SpectrumStorms
      @SpectrumStorms Před 5 lety +15

      If he watched Smith's doctor, that probably drive him further away.

    • @ishaanthewonderboy
      @ishaanthewonderboy Před 5 lety +56

      Why? You didn't like him?

    • @SpectrumStorms
      @SpectrumStorms Před 5 lety +8

      What's there to like about him?

    • @Jeevzsk
      @Jeevzsk Před 5 lety +47

      Generally older fans dont like him and the younger does

    • @arisymphony
      @arisymphony Před 5 lety +9

      @@Jeevzsk I started watching DW when I was 13, in 2011, and I didn't like Matt Smith either.

  • @tealwashablemarker8886
    @tealwashablemarker8886 Před 5 lety +45

    *”You can do it all again with the series new to come.”*
    Oh. Oh how little he knew of what really was to come. How little we all knew.

  • @FireWalkWithMe91
    @FireWalkWithMe91 Před 5 lety +52

    When I first saw Mummy I loved it. I got goosebumps when they're saying they have no idea what it looks like, and then one character calmly describes it as it's moving in to kill him!

  • @kratosmaycry
    @kratosmaycry Před 6 lety +769

    Also I mean... Clara's outfit amiright

    • @maxeyre2024
      @maxeyre2024 Před 5 lety +7

      kratosmaycry Hehehe

    • @maxeyre2024
      @maxeyre2024 Před 5 lety +45

      Same in Face the Raven

    • @doghat1619
      @doghat1619 Před 5 lety +37

      I prefer sweaty clara from the start of The Caretaker

    • @maxeyre2024
      @maxeyre2024 Před 5 lety +9

      Langdon Aldger Nah Mummy and Face are her best

    • @nbkguy4203
      @nbkguy4203 Před 5 lety +2

      Ma boi

  • @UltimateKyuubiFox
    @UltimateKyuubiFox Před 6 lety +330

    I feel bad for your friend because Series 5 is one of the most tightly-written series of Modern Who. If I had it my way, he‘d just watch all of that and then go on to Mummy because skipping Series 5 feels like he’s genuinely missing out.

    • @FullFatVideos
      @FullFatVideos  Před 6 lety +78

      Series 5 is the best series of New Who without a dilly doubt

    • @comicconcarne
      @comicconcarne Před 6 lety +23

      I thought it was just me. Don't skip Nine and don't skip series five!

    • @harryofsolihull3836
      @harryofsolihull3836 Před 6 lety +25

      Series 5 is tightly written. That's the point.

    • @alexhodgkinson6718
      @alexhodgkinson6718 Před 6 lety +15

      @@thomasmorrisey1681 I've watched all of Who and I confidently say that Moffat is the best writer full stop. I prefer him to even Robert Holmes

    • @JacksonCoYT
      @JacksonCoYT Před 6 lety +1

      @@alexhodgkinson6718 are you sure about that, you know that's how they check if people are mental, show them a picture of Holmes and moffat and ask them which is the better writer. Those who pick moffat are immediately sectioned

  • @eulalie7035
    @eulalie7035 Před 5 lety +29

    For Matt Smith’s doctor, I would use The Vampires of Venice, it shows the dynamic between him, Amy and Rory, sets up the threat really well, and is self-contained

  • @phrophetsamgames
    @phrophetsamgames Před 4 lety +31

    I started watching Doctor Who with the Eleventh Hour. It's honestly a great opener for Matt.

    • @Lior353
      @Lior353 Před 3 lety +1

      So did i! One of the best openers in my opinion

  • @sevgigurbuz3280
    @sevgigurbuz3280 Před 6 lety +184

    When I started my kids on Doctor Who in general, of all the NewWho episodes I chose 12th Doctor, Robot of Sherwood - they absolutely love that episode because of the spoon fight and because of its fairytale context. Other episodes for which I've had "re-watch" requests include Mummy on the Orient Express, Time Heist, and Kill the Moon. In general, the absolutely love Clara, and love Peter Capaldi...

    • @rmsgrey
      @rmsgrey Před 6 lety +18

      Kill the Moon is possibly the most divisive episode of Doctor Who - one the one hand, some people love the abortion allegory; on the other hand, some people find the aggressive scientific illiteracy on display off-putting. And there are other reasons on both sides - those are just the first that came to mind. For me, the complete lack of understanding of basic physics in a show with at least a pretense to being science fiction completely broke my suspension of disbelief somewhere around the line about "high tide everywhere at once" - which would mean a sudden and dramatic increase in the amount of seawater on Earth (or a significant displacement from the current oceans - something occupying a significant chunk of the Pacific would do it) - the effect of increasing the Moon's mass significantly would be "non-stop tidal waves sweeping the Earth" - which, I don't know about you, but sounds more dramatic to me anyway, in addition to being more accurate.

    • @sevgigurbuz3280
      @sevgigurbuz3280 Před 6 lety +18

      :)) As an engineer myself, I can appreciate your comment, although to be honest I had not made any connection to abortion until reading your note. I also don't ever expect true "science" in science fiction! (Emphasis on "fiction" here.) For my 6-yr old daughter, however, who loves Kill the Moon, she knows nothing of abortion nor physics. She was simply in awe and admiration of the thought that the moon she saw in the sky everyday was an egg that could give birth to a majestic and beautiful creature... The show changed the way she looked at the stars each night, and I could see her imagine the creature flying about. I think we should remember that Doctor Who is targeted towards children, and they do view the world with so much more clarity, I think. The Doctor loves the universe and all the beauty, magic, and wonder it holds. We truly live in an amazing world...we should never forget to notice and admire beauty, and to want and discover the beauty of our world. This is what Doctor Who showed my daughter, not just in showing the moon egg hatch, but from the forest that showed up overnight, the Egg planet, Gallifrey, Darrilium and so many other majestic alien constructs.... and what I learned from watching her watch Doctor Who...

  • @floraice11
    @floraice11 Před 4 lety +24

    Peter Capaldi's era is like fine wine-it gets better with age. When his era initially aired I watched it but I was fairly ambivalent about it. Now I find myself rewatching his episodes almost more than any other. Sure Moffat's writing had some weak points but Capaldi makes for a very compelling Doctor and his chemistry with his companions-Clara especially-is second only to Ten and Donna. Kind of sad he didn't get better writing at the time but Capaldi's era is fast becoming my favourite era of Doctor Who.

  • @chuckfatherofrock3480
    @chuckfatherofrock3480 Před 5 lety +60

    Capaldi was one of the best Doctors, change my mind

    • @kanishkamishra1863
      @kanishkamishra1863 Před 4 lety +16

      Let me. Peter Capaldi was the best doctor in the history of doctor who.

    • @damianbrophy3961
      @damianbrophy3961 Před 4 lety +5

      No I Wont Change Your Mind Capaldi Is The Top

    • @julieeverett7442
      @julieeverett7442 Před 3 lety

      @LUKE COOPER Tom Baker!

    • @julieeverett7442
      @julieeverett7442 Před 3 lety +3

      one of, 4th is mine and always will be, but Peter is just behind him, a classic era doctor in the modern era!

  • @lilianderson8256
    @lilianderson8256 Před 4 lety +14

    Mummy was one of the first episodes in a while that actually scared me upon first viewing. Just the nature of not really knowing when the next victim will be taken or who it will be reminded me so much of the older weeping angels or even the cybermen or the empty child that terrified me as a child. I really enjoyed the fear again as much as it caused a sleepless night

  • @matthewduncan8523
    @matthewduncan8523 Před 4 lety +16

    Imagine not wanting to watch Matt Smith flap his hands around and ramble

  • @tomimpala
    @tomimpala Před 6 lety +38

    Start whenever and wherever! As Moffat said, it'll make about as much sense as it usually does.

    • @LynnHermione
      @LynnHermione Před 3 lety

      I started on Empty Child purely by chance. Was channel surfing and here it was, a weird british show randomly on latinamerican cable. I got in on the "do you dance" scene, in fact!

  • @alexturlais8558
    @alexturlais8558 Před 6 lety +51

    This is such a great episode. Its self contained, well written, and genuinely Who. Its the sort of thing that is great for casual viewers.

  • @jonnytaylor6186
    @jonnytaylor6186 Před 6 lety +75

    Whilst I do love this episode, I actually think in the context you gave Time Heist might be a better one to go with. No Danny Pink, No relationship issues between The Doctor and Clara, an incredible alien design and fun use of a time travel gimmik that's not a pain to understand like series 6. Capaldi is pretty similar to how he is in this mummy as well so you get a good feel for his Doctor, but the points you made were very good.

    • @nicolesong6199
      @nicolesong6199 Před 4 lety +3

      But the relationship between the Doctor and Clara is a big part of the series, and human relationships, friendly or otherwise, are a big focus of the show. The structure of it makes it a fun romp, but it drags at certain points.

  • @Girintina
    @Girintina Před 5 lety +67

    I didn't like much of Capaldi's first series, but I stuck with it because I think he's a brilliant actor. After Kill the Moon I thought about dropping the series, but then this episode came out and won me over. That's how good it is, not only as an episode, but as an introduction to who the Twelfth Doctor is.

  • @NimonBePraised
    @NimonBePraised Před 6 lety +41

    HE MADE AN INBETWEENERS REFERENCE YALL

  • @jamesa.fitzpatrick1566
    @jamesa.fitzpatrick1566 Před 5 lety +11

    MUMMY is how the show should have been for all of Capaldi and ever after. High stakes, permanent deaths, mystery, a clever logical ending. Please make Jamie Mathieson the new showrunner.

    • @danielking1583
      @danielking1583 Před 3 lety

      Jim Fitzpatrick he would have been far better than chibnall

  • @tylerbailey9329
    @tylerbailey9329 Před 6 lety +30

    This episode genuinely terrified me as much as World Enough and Time.

  • @darkjjak3804
    @darkjjak3804 Před 3 lety +3

    The title alone drew me in, because I was reading a lot of Agatha Christie books then. The episode was fantastic. Perkins was so great! Agreed in that I wish he came back later in Capaldi's run. Then to have Flatliners after this made for two amazing episodes in a row.

  • @Marcsharp82
    @Marcsharp82 Před 5 lety +7

    My wife wanted to get into DW and chose Mummy on the Orient Express as she liked the title. She loved it. And has now watched most of his era.

  • @StetsonDoctor
    @StetsonDoctor Před 5 lety +16

    This is a brilliant analysis. You’ve made me appreciate ‘Mummy on the Orient Express’ even more now!

  • @TIMELORD327
    @TIMELORD327 Před 6 lety +40

    Ahhhh, now I've got to watch Mummy on the Orient Express again

  • @Kissfan96dr
    @Kissfan96dr Před 5 lety +15

    yeah, that's a good one to start someone on Capaldi Who. Love season 8 and 9. Capaldi and Coleman did so well together.

  • @seanalbro3689
    @seanalbro3689 Před 4 lety +4

    I didn't fall in love with Capaldi until the episode where he goes back and saves Davros

  • @alliona502
    @alliona502 Před 6 lety +146

    I would of chosen to watch Time Heist. Underrated episode.

    • @judgemario
      @judgemario Před 5 lety +2

      Love that one, too.

    • @eulalie7035
      @eulalie7035 Před 5 lety +9

      Agreed, but would have, not of. Sorry

    • @maxeyre2024
      @maxeyre2024 Před 5 lety +13

      It’s underrated, but not a good opening episode for Capaldi. Mummy on the Orient Express is a brilliant episode.

    • @finnstewart4747
      @finnstewart4747 Před 4 lety +5

      Time Heist is good, and a hell of a lot of fun, but Mummy is on another level of brilliance.

    • @zlee001
      @zlee001 Před 4 lety +1

      time heist is my fav

  • @gamernitwit7159
    @gamernitwit7159 Před 5 lety +27

    Capaldi got me into watching Dr Who. He's my favourite Dr. Absolutely brilliantly acted. I especially liked that he was darker, and that there was no love interest between him and the companion. He made me watch the other Doctor's in action (though I just can't watch Smith, something about him just makes it hard to watch).

    • @niamhrtditchfield2348
      @niamhrtditchfield2348 Před 4 lety +3

      I feel the exact same way about the 11th doctor. I just feel he was written for children

  • @mihailazar2487
    @mihailazar2487 Před 5 lety +12

    Haven't watched DW in 3 years ... have forgotten just how cute Clara was

  • @elsalaiho1699
    @elsalaiho1699 Před 5 lety +17

    This was the first episode of DW I ever watched. It was summer 2016 and YLE was replaying Capaldi's two series. I'd heard about DW from a friend of mine (though she doesn't like Capaldi), but I hadn't cared enough to find out more about it. But it was summer holiday and I didn't have a lot to do and they were showing those during the early afternoon when there's usually nothing interesting on tv. So I thought I might as well give it a try.
    And I remember that at first I didn't quite like Doctor's character. He came off as a bit too hard, bit too angry, not quite likeable. But I did like Clara and I stuck for her, and as the episode went on, I started being able to see what she saw in The Doctor. And by the end of the episode, while I was still more fond of Clara, I had started to like Doctor as his own character, and understand his decisions throughout the episode. And now I'm a big fan of Doctor Who, and like Twelve a lot.

  • @davidyoung5114
    @davidyoung5114 Před 6 lety +29

    Best episode of Series 8. Best line...'Are you my mummy?'!!

    • @elennacruz9697
      @elennacruz9697 Před 5 lety +4

      The best line of series 8 is "don't be lasagna" you fool

  • @amiscii
    @amiscii Před 4 lety +6

    Also the style, film set, and music (with Foxes as the singer) are all fantastic in this episode and give it a nice mood

  • @darkluigi254
    @darkluigi254 Před 6 lety +277

    Why are you putting footage from "the eleventh hour" up, when you are talking about bad openers?
    I think "the eleventh hour" is the perfect openers for newcomers.

    • @brandonmartin-moore5302
      @brandonmartin-moore5302 Před 6 lety +25

      I'm not sure about that. It's a very good episode, but if you've never watched Doctor Who before it spends too much time going on about the regeneration.

    • @ElynevanOpzeeland
      @ElynevanOpzeeland Před 5 lety +77

      i started on that episode, and i was so stunned by what i saw. So, i stayed.
      when i saw a man falling out of a flying blue phone box almost crashing on the big ben i was already sold and wanted to know what the heck was happening. then amy pops up with amazing questions i myself have. followed by a bit of comic relief with the food.
      And BAM! then the moment Smith says: that must be one hell of a scare crack in your wall, i had chills.... and i loved the way the doctor solved it without using any violence, what happens in a lot of sci-fi stories, i was absoluty stunned and amazed by that episode. and i just watched episode 2 (netflix, i love it) and episode 3, etc, etc.
      so, for me it worked....

    • @joshuab3918
      @joshuab3918 Před 5 lety +23

      It was actually my first episode, too, and it was a great hook

    • @ElynevanOpzeeland
      @ElynevanOpzeeland Před 5 lety +4

      guess it depends from person to person, eh?

    • @indianwarlord6935
      @indianwarlord6935 Před 5 lety +4

      @@ElynevanOpzeeland well u better watch 9 and 10 lmao. Skipping them is retarded

  • @johndeco
    @johndeco Před 6 lety +6

    I LOVE Mummy on the Orient Express for many reasons, from being a suspenseful mystery, learning how far Capaldi's Doctor would go just to stop the mummy, and that it feels like a Sci fi Murder on the Orient Express, except the Doctor is the Poirot of the story and the mummy being the culprit! 🚂

  • @MatthewCaunsfield
    @MatthewCaunsfield Před 6 lety +4

    "Mummy" is one of the highlights of that troubled season

  • @princessthyemis
    @princessthyemis Před 3 lety +2

    I love watching the Doctor "cook" throughout the span of their introduction episode!

  • @veggiet2009
    @veggiet2009 Před 5 lety +6

    Man there is so little of this episode I remember, I need to watch it again... but before that I need to stop watch this, before too many details get (re-)spoiled for me.
    Good analysis by the way! It is weird to tell someone that I liked their video so much that I have to stop watching it, but here we are...

  • @epm1012
    @epm1012 Před 6 lety +454

    Deep Breath is a really bad opener, especially for a Doctor most were already on the fence about.

    • @comicconcarne
      @comicconcarne Před 6 lety +36

      It does seem like "character development" was interpreted to mean "start him off as a dick". Sure, the questioning why he chose his face paid off in the "just save one person" callback to Fires of Pompeii, and his vengeful-god complex that's been around since the Seventh Doctor came on display and was finally resolved thoroughout the series and his whole run. But if you weren't already going to stick with the show no matter what, Deep Breath can feel like it was backtracking all the way to the First Doctor.

    • @HereComesPopoBawa
      @HereComesPopoBawa Před 6 lety +23

      How do you figure that most were already on the fence about Capaldi? He's the arguably the best-established actor to take the role, apart from stunt-casting Hurt. I found far more who were skeptical of Smith by virtue of him having hardly been in anything. It's precisely because I had such high hopes for him that Deep Breath was a bit disappointing, but that was because he was let down by a poor story.

    • @meris8486
      @meris8486 Před 6 lety +12

      It's such an indulgent episode on Moffats part. 80 MINUTES? It needed a trim

    • @alexinabox6931
      @alexinabox6931 Před 6 lety +7

      Nah. I really Deep Breath, it's a lot more about Clara, and a lot more about how the doctor is less able to understand his own character, and it has my favourite post-regenerative madness/development.

    • @meris8486
      @meris8486 Před 6 lety +6

      well Clara is a terrible character so maybe that's why I don't like the episode

  • @alexturlais8558
    @alexturlais8558 Před 6 lety +31

    To the UK audiences (and any foreign fans with a vpn) this episode (and all of New Who) is on BBC IPlayer. Go watch it.

  • @Malcis
    @Malcis Před 6 lety +23

    Whilst I do agree with your points, I feel like people who give up on a show after one episode are kinda barking up the wrong tree

  • @benszemerenyi7113
    @benszemerenyi7113 Před 5 lety +51

    Did you purposely do the inbetweeners reference with the “is crap a swear word” line? If so fair play mate 👌

  • @azizuladnan2957
    @azizuladnan2957 Před 6 lety +51

    6:48 "Isn't this exciting?" I approved! Gus do have a sound of super cold and creepy. And it is awesome!
    Hmmm, which timeline should the orient express take place (I'm listing Doctor Who Timeline, still on the NuWho)
    In this episode...
    1) Thedion Four was destroyed thousands of years ago
    2) The myth Foretold first appeared five thousand years ago
    3) There have been a degree on alien mythology (Prof Emil Moorhouse is a professor of alien mythology)
    4) it's an ancient soldier driven by a malfunctioning tech, so technology can be inside a human body (I think...)
    5) And I guess all of them are 'humanoid'
    You know from this point, I don't think we can even find the average timeline where Orient Express even take place XD

    • @danochy5522
      @danochy5522 Před 5 lety +2

      We do know it was set after 1978, since the song "Don't Stop Me Now" was playing, which came out in 1978. Also it's likely after humans ventured into space, since we're assuming enough time has gone by for either an alien species to learn of that song, or humans to be in space.

    • @azizuladnan2957
      @azizuladnan2957 Před 5 lety +1

      True, True XD

    • @alim.9801
      @alim.9801 Před 2 lety

      I never thought about this but this was THE most interesting comment to read omg love watching you work thru it I never even THOUGHT about working out the timeline

  • @GothicPoet93
    @GothicPoet93 Před 5 lety +3

    I completely understand the logic behind not wanting to introduce a potential new "whovian" to the intro of a Dr episode.
    However, I find the exception to that rule to be David Tenants first episode. He is a wonderful introduction to the series, and to himself.

    • @alim.9801
      @alim.9801 Před 2 lety

      His first episode as in Christmas invasion or new earth??

  • @wolfruner3603
    @wolfruner3603 Před 4 lety +1

    NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT THE INVETWEENERS REFERENCE WITH THE “Is crap a seat word? Crap?” SEGMENT

  • @grayscaleplaid7424
    @grayscaleplaid7424 Před 6 lety +52

    I'm sorry, the correct answer was "Time Heist." But thank you for playing.

  • @firetarrasque4667
    @firetarrasque4667 Před 6 lety +87

    At least we're getting a new showrunner. Should be fun.
    IF IT EVER COMES OUT.

    • @left8277
      @left8277 Před 6 lety

      3.14 Dragon Apparently it’s late September / early October so fingers crossed

    • @Dream146
      @Dream146 Před 6 lety +15

      Yeah a showrunnwr responsible for writing some of the worst episodes in recent memory, should be great.

    • @left8277
      @left8277 Před 6 lety +7

      Dream146 Yeah, but he did Broadchurch too and standalone eps don’t always show how good people are at writing series arcs.

    • @bun6134
      @bun6134 Před 6 lety +4

      I thought Broadchurch was boring honestly. Sure, it's far more competent than his work on Doctor Who (hardly much of a feat), but I always thought it was something that should only have been a short TV movie with a slightly tighter cast, rather than being stretched across an entire, agonising series of people moping around almost 75% of the time.

    • @WatchThisSpace415
      @WatchThisSpace415 Před 6 lety

      Bun Broadchurch has 3 seasons which one are you referring to?

  • @Jedi_Spartan
    @Jedi_Spartan Před 4 lety +7

    I sort of want to see an 11th Doctor version of this seeing as it got mentioned at the very end of series 5 after Amy and Rory's wedding.

  • @DudeJako
    @DudeJako Před 6 lety

    Just found your channel and I have a lot of catching up to do. Great script, well edited and enjoyable throughout. Keep up the good work 👍

  • @TheSolitaryGrape
    @TheSolitaryGrape Před 4 lety +2

    First of all great video, just wanted to say I never realised how many parallels there are between Mummy on the Orient Express and Midnight. Considering Midnight is probably my favourite episode, I now understand why I enjoy Mummy so much. In addition to everything you talked about here

  • @andrewtate4897
    @andrewtate4897 Před 5 lety +6

    I actually watched this one last night it was a good one, I like Deep Breath because it does take time and is an acting master class from Capaldi

  • @BucketThinkTank14657Nerd
    @BucketThinkTank14657Nerd Před 5 lety +5

    I thought Perkins would have been a great choice, an advanced space mechanic on the TARDIS? Hells yeah!

    • @julieeverett7442
      @julieeverett7442 Před 3 lety +2

      not a modern day girl from Britian, Perkins would have a been a GREAT companion!

    • @alim.9801
      @alim.9801 Před 2 lety

      And another blue collar dude yess!!!

  • @maarchalk2840
    @maarchalk2840 Před 4 lety +1

    This episode was completely by accident the first episode I watched. It got me hooked on the entire series.

  • @TheHabbadasher
    @TheHabbadasher Před 5 lety +1

    I've loved pretty much every episode of Doctor Who that Jamie Mathieson's written. He's a very effective writer, with a genuine talent for creating clear characters and engaging concepts. I honestly hope he's put in charge of the show someday.

  • @Jp-1377
    @Jp-1377 Před 6 lety +18

    Good inbetweeners reference

  • @landey5191
    @landey5191 Před 6 lety +10

    I adore this episode it's great

  • @MikeFurl
    @MikeFurl Před 9 měsíci

    The 66-seconds of face time with the Foretold is one of the greatest Doctor Moments in the history of the show.

  • @bowtiefox
    @bowtiefox Před 4 lety +1

    i had the opposite problem, i could't get used to the 11th doctor but i instantly understood 12 and liked him almost insistently

  • @alicaido6616
    @alicaido6616 Před 5 lety +3

    halfway through the vid, time to start watching doctor who again I guess

  • @rosabellatan9032
    @rosabellatan9032 Před 5 lety +4

    Peter Capaldi is the reason why I came back to Doctor who . he is soooo hot .

  • @gingerbread2005
    @gingerbread2005 Před 3 lety +2

    Is it just me who *really* enjoyed Matt Smith's run?
    I know some considered him a bit childish, but he seemed to do it in an incredibly engaging way and in my opinion he was written so well, as when he had outbursts of anger and showed his true emotions it showed how his childish nature was just a cover for the deep conflict inside him. Plus, once again I know some people found them confusing but the incredible series arcs and finales are nothing to frown upon.

  • @barryhomeowner9293
    @barryhomeowner9293 Před 3 lety +1

    I rewatched this episode for this video last year and forgot to watch the video so here I am

  • @simplyepic1732
    @simplyepic1732 Před 6 lety +7

    Anyone recognise the set in the background of that beach scene at the end. The building is from the episode the last of the timelords lol

  • @TheRealDuck
    @TheRealDuck Před 5 lety +4

    Heaven Sent is my favorite Peter Capaldi Episode

  • @legofan370
    @legofan370 Před 4 lety +2

    "This episode features a countdown..."
    *Chris Chibnall has joined the chat*

  • @seanwayne4603
    @seanwayne4603 Před 5 lety +1

    Great essay. You just earned yourself a subscriber.

  • @theletterpurple6228
    @theletterpurple6228 Před 5 lety +10

    My favourite is listen. I love the atmosphere and mystery.

  • @jessewilliams7661
    @jessewilliams7661 Před 5 lety +4

    Matt Smith I thought was absolutely brilliant. Maybe it’s just nostalgia because it’s such a massive point of my childhood. Peter capaldi is also brilliant. Way way easier to watch than Matt smiths run.

  • @KerrieRedgate
    @KerrieRedgate Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you. I enjoyed that. Great appraisal!

  • @aconcernedcommissar6261
    @aconcernedcommissar6261 Před 6 lety +2

    This is one of my favourite 12 doctor episode and one i rewatch a lot

  • @rememberme3619
    @rememberme3619 Před 6 lety +5

    Attack me all you want, but I prefer the Moffat Era over the RTD Era. Don’t get me wrong, there are still a few things I prefer in RTD’s Era and there’s a few good stories in that Era, but I just like Moffat’s Era more. If any of you want me to explain, I’ll happily do so.

    • @rememberme3619
      @rememberme3619 Před 6 lety +1

      stephen noonan on the subject of Chibnall, we haven’t seen a Doctor Who episode from him since The Power of Three (2012, 6 years ago), which is could mean how writing could surprise us for the better or worse.

    • @FacePimpd
      @FacePimpd Před 5 lety +1

      People forget how moaned about Russell was at the end of his tenure by “fans”. It’s just what people do. By the mid point of Chibnall’s run people will be pining for the good old Moffat era

    • @alfiethomas5632
      @alfiethomas5632 Před 5 lety

      @@FacePimpd "midpoint" - I already regret not appreciating Moffat when I had the chance, especially considering how he tried to cater to more attentive generations, one of them being mine.

  • @prof2yousmithe444
    @prof2yousmithe444 Před 5 lety +8

    While it is nice to keep the swear words out you are safe with “crap.”
    I am a pastor & I use it from the pulpit sometimes.

    • @alim.9801
      @alim.9801 Před 2 lety +1

      You sound like a cool pastor I hope you and your congregation are doing ok :)

    • @prof2yousmithe444
      @prof2yousmithe444 Před 2 lety

      @@alim.9801 Thank you! We are holding our own. People are starting to come back for live services.

  • @moon_raker1062
    @moon_raker1062 Před 5 lety +1

    Another pro: this episode is beautiful! If you want to show off the higher quality of cinematography and production design of the capaldi era then mummy on the orient express is such a good example of what they did even on a smaller budget episode.

    • @IngotAU
      @IngotAU Před 5 lety

      moon_raker Oh yes! Terrific production design, and also how about Murray Gold's old timey mystery movie score

  • @araxietyne
    @araxietyne Před 4 lety +1

    I will never forget my first episode when it was on Netflix. Christopher Eccleston and billie piper against the mannequins. Brilliant!

  • @kaitlint05
    @kaitlint05 Před 6 lety +28

    There's always so much backlash whenever there's a new Doctor, but so many end up crying when they eventually have to leave. Personally I hated Matt Smith and Peter Capaldi when they first came on, but their different Doctors brought new things to the table that I ended up loving all the more in the end. With that, I want to see what Jodie Whittaker has to offer before I go off on her and say that I hate that there's a female Doctor.

    • @ojigbo
      @ojigbo Před 6 lety

      Funny, because I loved both from the start while getting more and more annoyed as the seasons went on. Although I am mainly blaming this on writing than on the characters they potrayed.

    • @cheshiregamez303
      @cheshiregamez303 Před 5 lety

      I like Peter Capaldi’s seasons because of the Zygon Invasion/Inversion. I like how large-scale it is.

    • @elennacruz9697
      @elennacruz9697 Před 5 lety +3

      So what happened is that Jodie ended up acting a terrible doctor because there was no doctor written for her to act. "Her Doctor has no personality at all!" Yeah no actor would ever be able to make a personality from that dialogue. Maybe Patrick Stewart, but everyone knows he is too good to exist.

  • @scalpingsnake
    @scalpingsnake Před 6 lety +4

    For me the first episodes of each doctor's run is needed. I completely agree with the fact you need to start with a 'good one' to get them hooked but in my opinion if they can't watch the introduction to the doctor then they might as well not bother.

  • @River_StGrey
    @River_StGrey Před 5 lety +1

    Thank you for this! I was kind of going nuts trying to figure out which episode to show my girlfriend. She's never seen doctor who but wanted to check it out, and while Listen, Zygon, and Heaven Sent are great episodes, they're great to see the Doctor (as you said) bending the rules, and being a penultimate version of themselves, which really only works if you have the template and basic understanding of who the doctor is, and why his actions in those episodes are significant.
    So, thank you!

  • @moondustspark5250
    @moondustspark5250 Před 4 lety +2

    "Dinosaurs on a spaceship type vibe."
    *The Astrosaurs books have joined the chat*

  • @mattcalloway6254
    @mattcalloway6254 Před 5 lety +4

    Capaldi definitely had the best speeches

  • @Void_Sevrin
    @Void_Sevrin Před 6 lety +153

    Peter Capaldi is so good but Moffats writing is what kept him from his full potential

    • @BlueSparxLPs
      @BlueSparxLPs Před 6 lety +28

      People keep saying that, yet when I look at 12's era it has the most consistently good episodes. Previous series were full of at least a few duds (more in the case of series 2 and 7), whereas I can only pick out one subpar episode from each Capaldi series (In the Forest of the Night, Sleep No More, and Smile if you're curious, although Smile is less a dud and more just the least strong episode of series 10).

    • @goneswimming7346
      @goneswimming7346 Před 5 lety +10

      Blue Sparx I agree Flatline, mummy of the orient express, the witches familiar, listen, world enough in time, oxygen, the zygone inversion, heaven sent, etc were great stories and lesser stories like kill the moon, thin ice, etc they work as good character pieces

    • @FacePimpd
      @FacePimpd Před 5 lety +21

      This is such a boring bandwagon. No it didn’t. Heaven Sent doesn’t push Capaldi to his full potential? Really? There’s duds yes, but no more than any other Doctor. Moffat and Capaldi did a great job. They knew what they were doing and they did a brilliant job at it.

    • @seed_drill7135
      @seed_drill7135 Před 5 lety +9

      Kill the moon is the worst episode of Dr. Who EVER.

    • @SpectrumStorms
      @SpectrumStorms Před 5 lety +7

      In all honesty, the Smith era had more duds than Capaldi's era.

  • @wilsondamian0
    @wilsondamian0 Před 2 lety

    I personally feel the pilot is a perfect intro to everything that doctor who is. Introduction to the doctor, the tardis, the companion and what traveling with them is like. It even has a dalek in it! With that being said I never thought about mummy on the orient express. This is a great intro as well!

  • @fredboiandfriends5486
    @fredboiandfriends5486 Před 3 lety

    For anyone who doesn’t know. In the 1970’s an anime called the galaxy express 999 (three-nine) was created. It had trains that flew through space, stopping at stations on different planets. So the flying through space aspect of the episode is more than likely based on the galaxy express 999

  • @markmatthews1737
    @markmatthews1737 Před 6 lety +12

    for me the Moffat era didn't have the same spark for me

    • @IshtarNike
      @IshtarNike Před 6 lety +2

      Watch "Sherlock Is Garbage and Here's Why" by Hbomberguy and you'll probably be able to see why.

    • @iz723
      @iz723 Před 5 lety

      I loved Matt Smith's run after a rewatch.

  • @Dream146
    @Dream146 Před 6 lety +18

    Capaldi us one if if not the best actor to play the doctor. The writers betrayed him though it was just so weak and Clara just didn't gave any chemistry with him.

    • @SpectrumStorms
      @SpectrumStorms Před 6 lety

      Not including John Hurt, I'd say Capaldi is the second best actor to play The Doctor (Colin Baker's the best actor).

    • @7pitpat7
      @7pitpat7 Před 6 lety +18

      What? Clara and 12th doctor have the greatest chemistry of any doctor and companion

    • @kyndramb7050
      @kyndramb7050 Před 6 lety +5

      +7pitpat7 I feel like they had much better chemistry towards the end. However, I feel like that's not the actors' faults, but the way Clara was written. I didn't like her much at all for the whole of the Matt Smith era. It wasn't until Capaldi came along that they actually developed her. Companions need to have an anchor to Earth to ground them and make them seem relatable. That didn't happen for her until Danny Pink.

    • @mayotango1317
      @mayotango1317 Před 6 lety +3

      @@7pitpat7 Capaldi had more chemistry with River Song in one episode that with Clara.

    • @jooie444
      @jooie444 Před 5 lety +3

      Bollocks! Peter and Jenna had great chemistry.

  • @alisonfool
    @alisonfool Před 5 lety +1

    This is one of my favorite episodes. So strong.

  • @Lalerato
    @Lalerato Před 3 lety

    I was watching old episodes and not watching the 8th series, but I saw the thumbnail of this video and watched this episode as my first for 12th Doctor and I truly liked him

  • @neonthelight2
    @neonthelight2 Před 6 lety +6

    Opinions on Flatline?

    • @TenuousSausage
      @TenuousSausage Před 5 lety

      Flatline is my favourite series 8 episode: the speech at the end is pure beauty!!!

  • @lauradove
    @lauradove Před 6 lety +8

    Are you excited for the new doctor?

    • @Jp-1377
      @Jp-1377 Před 6 lety

      Laura Obinduka nah

    • @FullFatVideos
      @FullFatVideos  Před 6 lety +15

      Absolutely. I liked Moffat - a lot. But change is necessary so, whether it's good or bad, it's good to have a series where we have no idea what will happen.

    • @christopherdejong2000
      @christopherdejong2000 Před 6 lety

      Full Fat Videos i hope thirteen despite being a female is a good doctor.

    • @scalpingsnake
      @scalpingsnake Před 6 lety +2

      @@christopherdejong2000 oh God don't start that

    • @christopherdejong2000
      @christopherdejong2000 Před 6 lety +5

      scalpingsnake i dont mean it on a negative way cause a female doctor is not my worry but its chibnail that worries me a lot!!

  • @hamoiq908
    @hamoiq908 Před 3 lety +1

    honestly this episode is and has been since i seen it always one of my favourites

  • @omgitsmeinnit
    @omgitsmeinnit Před 6 lety +2

    Re-watched the episode... It was much better than I remembered!