The Twelfth Doctor's Unconditional Love | Doctor Who Analysis
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- čas přidán 29. 01. 2024
- Lets take a look at The Twelfth Doctor's unconditional love for Clara Oswald. Peter Capaldi's season is full of absolute gems but one of my favourite scenes takes places in the season's penultimate episode 'Dark Water'. It comes off of the back of a whole season of tension brewing between The Doctor and Clara, and explodes in an amazing scene of betrayal, and then compassion. And from this scene comes one of the best lines in the whole of Doctor Who, 'Do you think I care for you so little for you that betraying me would make a difference?'.
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'Do you think I care so little that betraying me would make a difference?'
Twelve was the absolute GOAT 🙌
One would have to be careful with such a mission statement though. This sort of thing can very quickly turn into a toxic relationship. Speaking from experience there.
He regenerated into a goat? Now that _would_ by different 🐐
"Do you think I care for you so little that betraying me would make a difference?" perfectly encapsulates his character. When he was told River never really loved him, he kept protecting her and showed he was still willing to love her and be there for her no matter what. He cared for Missy and kept believing she could be good after everything she did to him and his friends. He even comforted and showed mercy to a dying Davros. Despite his rough demeanor and all his talk about not caring, Twelve proved himself to be the most compassionate and forgiving Doctor.
When did river say she never really loved him?
@@jamesslater9098 In The husbands of River Song, when he asks her if the Doctor is someone special to her, she lies and says she's only using him.
@@AWinterLullaby oh thank you :)
"He saved us, not because of the righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He washed away our sins, giving us a new birth and new life through the Holy Spirit."
the 12th doctor is the only doctor I felt like bawling for when he regenerated.
I'm so glad that Series 10 was top notch, meant he went out with a BANG
You have a way of taking the writer's words, the actor's actions and presenting them in a way that strips away everything but THE most essential human truth. Well done.
Thank you so much 🙂
Unconditional love is the most poignant and meaningful of all forms of love and is very rare. Sadly, it is sometimes completely misunderstood. This era of DW with Capaldi and Coleman who together were just an amazing and Moffat wrote scripts that beautifully showed what unconditional love is. That is why Capaldi's run will always be the most touching and powerful.
It's not just their friends, it's EVERYONE. 12's unconditional love led him to sacrifice himself for a bunch of people he'd never met, just to buy them a little more time to live. This moment is everything the Doctor is, and I never realized it until I watched this video, so thank you!!
I wish he had season 10's hair in season 9. I understand why it was short in 8, cause that's what the roman dude looked like, but the s10 hair has him looking like THE Doctor. He captures Hartnell (curt demeanor), Troughton (shredding electric guitar), and Pertwee (the dress/hair) at once regularly at that point. And starting s10 with him as a professor was perfect. I wish we got just one more season with him.....at least.😭 While his run was going I was desperately hoping he'd give Tom Baker a run for his money on the "longest running doctor" record.
Season 10 is my fave for so many reasons, and his hair is definitely one of them haha!
there's so many rumours to his leaving, many people still believe he was forced out
Think of his short hair growing longer overtime as his character development,
From series 8 his hair is short and he isn't really empathetic,
But as time goes on his hair and his empathy grow and by the end of his era, his empathy is much bigger than the beginning of his era and his hair is much more longer than before
I would’ve killed for a fourth season with Capaldi! They should have just split Series 10 into two so we could have more time with the university setting and the Bill/Nardole/Missy team
YESYESYES! This is THE definitive 12th Doctor moment for me - the first moment you truly see who he is. Love him and Clara together, they're my favourite TARDIS team and Capaldi and Coleman absolutely SHINE in these roles! Always enjoy your videos, SUPER happy to see one on them and this moment in particular - hope there's more to come at some point 😊❤
I could not possibly agree more. I share your love for this duo. A shame others could not see what is obvious to us. I did not though ever like Madam Vastra. I felt Vastra was so condescending and self-righteous. Cheers.
No 12 had a heartbreaking story arc. He lost Clara Bill Potts ,Nardole, and only was with River Song for one episode. .
24 years is a hell of a long time though.
I have to admit that I tried watching Capaldi when he first became the Doctor. I watched a couple of episodes only and really couldn’t get into his Doctor.
I recently tried again and am so glad I did. I love Capaldi as the Doctor. I love his and Clara’s relationship. Their ups and downs.
After 10 and Donna they have become my second favorite Doctor and Companion.
Great video.
(Heads off to watch the speech from The Zygon Inversion for the millionth time)
Always love to see 12 appreciation.
Your commentary videos are simply brilliant in their articulation and poignancy. You seem to almost be able to verbalize the most important reasons for our being and doing so with our favorite tv show. So sad the decline that came after Capaldi and Moffat's era. The beauty in this era and all its emotional moments I doubt will ever be captured again.
i swear i teared up when i first heard that line, it's just so... yeah, that's the Doc.
Man I've related to the 12 doctor, being with someone you love absolutely without realising how toxic it is, why I resonated with his run so much
Beautiful video. 12 has to be my favourite doctor by far and you've perfectly highlighted why.
This was also a landmark moment for me with 12. One of many moments during his era that makes this incarnation more unique compared to the rest. I will always love the show but this era is my favourite. Peter Capaldi perfectly depicts 12 and I do feel sad that we will never gain any more moments of him doing so.
Their eyes alone in this scene and others.
His face is set in stone, but his eyes are a whirlwind of love, fear, anger, decisions, calculations, hope.
I’m on 13 now, I just rewatched Dark Water and Death in Heaven, and I was reminded how great his era was
The reason Capaldi's Doctor is the most selfless and unconditionally loving is shown through the way he isn't gushy and sentimental. He is beyond such surface signage. His character and soul run so incredibly deep that I believe many viewers did not have the insightfulness to even realize yet appreciate it. For those of us who did it was incredibly powerful, effecting and beautiful. This Doctor was the most selfless and giving than any other before and certainly since. A remarkable anti-hero whom for me is therefore the ultimate character to admire and adore. He was the antithesis of modern fake emotionalism that dictates so much of what is called entertainment these days. All these people with faux expressions creating drivel response videos. No depth just veneer is what we usually see in today's world. What a wonderful exception and rarity this video post is. As great as Doctor Twelve was. Depth and substance in a world so devoid of such qualities.
Great video! Capaldi is my favorite Doctor and I love the keys scene.
This is an exceptional introspective video about his character. Very well made. I'll be watching the rest of your videos later.
Absolutely COSMIC video! Well done! I'm glad to see positive analyses of Capaldi's era. He was far better written than the fans give him credit.
Well said. I feel exactly the same. From the moment he was going to be The Doctor until present I always knew and know that he would be and is a fantastic rendition of the character. And this is one of many scenes where he proves it in. Absolutely sublime performance this and made him the best Doctor ever in my eyes.
Underrated episode
Great video man!
Hoooo that's a wonderful analysis :-). Thank you for this :-)
Thank you for this.
When he delivers that line I cry every time XD
Your video (very good!) summarises what brought me back round to Calpadi's era. I was heart broken when Smith left so I was coming into it arms crossed, feet firmly dug into the sand and mind closed. And this era didn't really convince me to do otherwise at first. I had built up an idea of what Doctor Who should be in my head and this wasn't it so it was bad. But looking back it now, with much more life and writing experience, I really enjoy it. Moffat was always willing to experiment with what Doctor Who could be and not settled with just what it was and it's what made season 5 and, in my opinion, series 6 so great. But when you're coming off a beloved version of a character and trying something new twice over (the new Doctor and the new style of the show), you're doubling your work load and the audience's ability to accept it strains. Not to say if people didn't like it they were wrong, just I think being able to experience all of Capaldi's run with expectations managed and all in one go as opposed to over several years with a week (and sometimes months) between episodes lets the themes it keeps coming back to feel more accessible and continous. And so, as my life continues, I imagine I'll only like it more and more as my tastes change and the era speaks to me and more as I experience more things.
Great video dude, great to see season 8 and my favourite ever Doctor/Companion paring getting some love. If you're open to suggestions, I'd love to see your take on Listen, imo chronically underrated and one of the best episodes in the show's history. Cheers!
It's an absolutely brilliant scene
Amazing writing, amazing sentiment.
I want more from twelve, he's the best for real
god I love 12
When I first what that episode, I didn't understand the Doctor. If you love someone, the betraying should be even more painful, right ? Then, years later, after meeting by best friend and strenghtening our bond over time, I rewatched the episode thinking about her. Now I know what the Doctor meant. Inconditional love, true inconditional love I mean, not the one you call inconditional because society told you so, is the one where no matter what, you'll never give up on the loved one.
And the quote is mirrored by Hell Bent, when the Doctor risked time and space, paradoxes and hatred from the Timelords, becoming the legendary and fearful hybrid in the process... just because he misses her. FOUR AND A HALF BILLIONS YEARS waiting, trapped in the confession dial, remember? This is Timelord Victorious all over again, with a little twist.
Not my favourite stories but my favourite doctor+companion dynamic by far
I actually think the dynamic of 12 and Clara was helped because it came off the back of 11 and Clara. The difference and the change between the two was so stark and interesting, it made for some great character interactions!
Here's the thing with Clara having any sort of relationship with the Doctor and you saying it's wrong because she's also dating some guy... the Doctor's MARRIED. To River. And also, apparently, to some Queen.
EDIT: Also... : "It's like he's dealing with a tantruming child."
He is.
Then again, I never liked Clara, but my only exposure to her was the special where The War Doctor is introduced. Seeing this here just makes me like her even less, which is impressive.
Love the Doctor's acting, though.
Absolutely Beautiful ✨💞🎶💎
I just had a dream about the Doctor. Someone told him his REAL age.
It was "billions of years"....
1:18 I haven't watched the full video yet, but I can already guess that part of the thesis will be at least partially undermined by Moffat's poor writing.
Eleven didn't regenerate into a young body just for Clara. If anything, if you were to make that case, it would be for anyone he meets. It would have been different if Eleven had somehow been influenced into getting the face he did because he knew Clara, but he didn't. He hadn't even known Amy yet.
You are not wrong, but I don't think that takes anything away from his dynamic with Clara as a flirtatious one. After the clip I used, vastra does go on to clarify that his young appearance wasn't just for Clara, it was for everyone.
"I wear a veil for the same reason he wears a face. To be accepted." @@RamblingManYT
That's not what happens, at all. Vastra says he looked young, wore a young face to be accepted, and that it was not just for Clara but "for everyone", that includes the audience.
And she never apologizes. She hurt him so much, and he shows her so much forgiveness and compassion, that she just moves on and never makes it right.
I have people like that in my life. People who take advantage of forgiveness and love without trying to make it better because they already got what they wanted. It's toxic and frustrating to see it exemplified in a protagonist, especially since it's not ever brought to bear where she changes and improves.
The actress who played Clara was fantastic. Having 11 flirt with Clara bugged me though because he'd married River by then. Is it good messaging to children to show the hero get married and then have him flirt with his co-worker?
It doesn't matter how long it takes, how many videos I watch, essays I read... I can't not hate Clara. I just feel like she has taken so much advantage of 12th, of this very unconditional love he felt, that they ended up building a very distorted codependency around each other disguised as true love.
After that betrayal, and his helping her regardless, Clara was always so sure that the Doctor would go to the end of the universe and beyond (quite literally) for her, that she became an unsufferable, manipulative, petty brat.
It breaks my heart so much, because it seems to me that all he ever wanted was for her to see him as she used to when he was 11th, and she just couldn't do that for him...
EDIT: ok, I might have overreacted with my comment, but talking about 12th always makes me quite emotional, and who could blame me, am I right?
Never felt like Clara deserved him. Even Bill does more for him, she sacrifices the freedom of humanity to save his life at one point, trusting that he'd find a way to save them.
And _now_ we have a guy who abandons his companions for the chance to hook up with strangers and stands and cries uselessly at the slightest obstacle.
"Promo SM" 💕
I hate that Clara felt so special she needed her bf back, so many other similar deaths mean there's now a single mother of little kids dealing with the loss of their father, but it's Clara who needed some guy back from the dead more then all those women.
F*ck you Chibnall, Disney and, yes, RTD for taking this away from us ..... magnificent television of the HIGHEST order !!! Absolutely endearing and well analysed, you have really captured an amazing essence that this show managed to achieve - a rare, brilliantly portrayed story arch with an exceptional depth and emotion that other shows can never achieve; to know these people / characters as we did was a true blessing ..... and then - GONE - DESTROYED - purposefully and intentionally. Fuck those responsible
What are you talking about? Nothing has been taken away or destroyed.
Chibnall, disney and rtd had nothing to do with 12th season, what do you mean "they took it from us" that's just wrong, i mean come on i love 12 but lets not act like the show has always been the same