3 Evangelical Scandals That MUST Be Discussed
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- čas přidán 2. 11. 2023
- 3 Evangelical Scandals That MUST Be Discussed… In this video, Todd Friel discusses three recent scandals in Christian circles, the damaging effects of gossip, and offers helpful guidelines and advice.
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Sometimes gossip is done under the guise of a “prayer request” at church.
I’ve felt this way for years.
We ended our "prayer chain" because of this.
@@2anonymous That’s so sad. Feels like Satan won 😣
Haha, you just described the Bible Belt (Deep South, USA).😪
I hear "lord please help John to treat his wife better "
Convicting, LORD, help me. Thank you for this. Even a little gossip is sin. 😞
I committed the sin of gossiping when I was around 11 years old, it was terrible, I lost a good friend, but God used that to show me that I too am the wretch the song refers to (I cried for a long time) and that I need to repent of my sin and put my faith in Him to be saved 💛
Great job sis
Back in my drinking days, I knew this guy who would tell on himself just to tell on you he once told the boss that I had some beer during lunch and he asked how he knew so he told him he knew because he was drinking with me lol.
@@muppetonmeds I hope he is alright with you telling the people in CZcams comment sections that story lol God bless you
@@joshuaquinn7858 thank you, and God bless you!
Really? Thats your confession and sin to the Lord of Hosts? while there are men in prison who regret the horrific sins they committed and cry out for forgiveness and salvation.... but the world would rather keep THEM in bonds/chains for ever because of THEIR sins but not your own!!!!
I've gossiped and slandered people , and I asked for God's forgiveness and mercy, and to comform me to Christlikeness. I no longer gossip or slander as I'm being transformed in Holiness and Christlikeness by the power of the Holy Spirit and by the power of God's word. Thank You Lord
Brother Todd, this was literally the topic of my Sunday School class this past week. It is truly a sin that goes “unnoticed” in the Christian community.
Out of the churches I have been to, only 1 ever talked about gossip. So sad.
Unnoticed is not the same as ignored.
For lack of wood a fire goes out. Without gossip, a quarrel dies down. Proverbs 26: 20 WEB This is my gossip antidote. Good medicine from the Word! Thanks & Blessings!
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Sometimes gossip is disguised as “discernment ministry”.
Thanks, wretched. Been with y’all since ‘08.
One reason I have comparatively little desire to get socially involved in church life any more, is that it seems like a significant number of churches are flat-out ran by gossips. The church where I've been for over two years now doesn't seem to have nearly such a problem, and that's a good thing.
I’m going to be “down” on my own gender: too many churches are run by domineering women who are full of pride (arrogance), gossip and envy. Some are in leadership but have never demonstrated humility or genuine love for Jesus or others! Churches that are run by such huge egos (whether they be women or men) eventually fall apart because of the hypocrisy.
It starts in Youth Group as kids and teens, if it's not flushed out then it becomes a serious issue.
😂😂😂 All Church is run on gossip and cliques its worse than high school.
Every sin is dangerous
Yes, and we should Tolerate none of them.
And we do all the time.
We are all pathetic in doing so.
@@CharismaZardabsolutely, we should be constantly listening to the Holy Spirit and doing our best to listen and correct our behaviour.
Based
Not all. Pork and shellfish consumption.
Yes very true. We all need to be way more careful.
This is excellent!!! Thank you! So guilty here! God forgive me!!
Maybe I should add this to my favorites and watch it daily until it is memorized… maybe we all should.
I am so willing to click on the YT video about a preacher instead of a sermon. This is powerful Wretched.
Timely and convincing 😮 Lord, have mercy. Help us keep watch over our lips.
We are all so guilty of this terrible sin. I think sometimes we're not aware.
A friend of mine once said,
“I was a young christian and I didn’t know anything. Then one day I got married and then I knew EVERYTHING!” (…everything he didn’t want to know!).
Thank you Todd!!! I NEEDED to hear that!!!
Thank you for the message brothers
Thank you for this timely and gentle rebuke of this common sin. Lord Jesus, by Your Holy Spirit may we keep Your commands and be master over our tongues🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
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@ > "Lord Jesus, by Your Holy Spirit may we keep Your commands and be master over our tongues🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Really? What about the 4th Command? There IS a "group" called the Noahides that teach it IS A SIN TO OBEY THE 4th Command.
This video has helped me understand the true meaning of gossip.
Would love to see more videos like this.
It's good for us to develop discernment
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This was spot on!
Thanks for tip of the hat to El Rushbo! Loved it! This is a wonderful teaching!
Genius! Just genius! Love your wit and your channel. Looking forward to adjudication and the follow up video.
People in the church misunderstand the meaning of this word all the time, accusing others of "gossip", because many don't want to hear anything negative, even if it is the truth, or they are trying to control others by shutting them up.
Look up the legal definition of libel, and slander.
It is NOT gossip if it is the truth.
You are so right about gossip. It's very difficult sometimes to point it out to friends or family. Impossible to not offend. My husband and I have been working on it, but it seems that every time we turn around, someone gossips to us. Makes us nuts!😮
Once I heard someone say that listening is just as much gossip as speaking. Her suggestion when someone is gossiping to you was to say "please stop, I shouldn't hear this." I use it a lot. It always works, although sometimes people respect you and sometimes they yell at you lol. hope this helps.
@deannemiller891 Good advice. Thank you. It's better than saying, "Stop, you're gossiping."
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Good point.
To ask the question "Are we gossiping?" also works well.
Thank you for sharing.
The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases. His mercies never come to an end. They are new every morning!
This is probably the best video I’ve seen on the subject. You covered a tremendous amount of ground - all based in scripture - in a short amount of time. Thank you very much for this valuable resource.
I struggled with this in my retail job so some days I barley would say anything when it was slow at work once the Holy Spirit convicted me of this I still struggle with this but not as much thank the Lord.
Ugh yes. I would just have to walk away and find something else to do. Unless you are completely alone at work, someone will come up and start gossiping. Something some of us indeed have to fight and put our minds on scripture.
IMHO, one of your best videos. Thanks for discussing or not discussing it. That said, one thing you said was "hearing" gossip was wrong. I would argue entertaning gossip is wrong. You can't control what you hear but you can control how you respond to that.
Wow! Todd, this is so relevant. Our church just preached on this very thing. We've been going through the Ten Commandments, and today we covered the 9th Commandmet - about not lying or giving false witness. And part of that includes gossip. This is a SERIOUS sin!
Our church has been greatly hurt by gossip. You see, not quite two years ago a couple of brothers from church were gossiping and spreading viscous rumors about our pastor. This sadly caused a DEEP church split with quite a few leaving.
Anyways, I don't know whats what's happened to the original instigators. But I am TRYING to forgive them, although it's so VERY hard! Nevertheless, I do pray for them regularly. 😪🙏😢
Very good cautionary advice.
This is one of the best and badly needed messages most every where
Thanks, good reminder for us all
This is such good teaching.
Great rules to go by because it's probably Gossip! God bless! 🙏
Sometimes, people commit bad escapades and try to hide with "do not gossip."
I remember the first time I saw the analogy of the woman who goes to the roof top of a building and tears open a feather pillow and the wind carries the feathers far and wide. She can try and collect the feathers but she'll never get them all back.
Gossip is like that. Once it goes out you are no longer in control, it spreads, changes, is added to and can never be undone.
I still think of that image of the feathers on the wind.
First time and really liked it❤
I like your amusing way you tell this tale about "gossiping "😂
Needed this
Best Non News I’ve ever heard!!
I’m familiar with the over charging critiques of the unmentioned event, but I know a certain man did the research on the cost of such things, by comparison, and that was stellar. Thank you, S. Kozar, ooops, and for this podcast, Mr. Mr. Mr. Friel!!!
Also, allegations especially against Christians should be brought to light. Too much abuse of all kinds allowed in the church that need to go to court.
Todd, always brings us the practical application of God's Word, which is so lacking from the pulpit.
l never gossip, gossip is that fact that you hear something that compromises the integrity of a fellow Christian and you tell as many people as you can.
when l hear such things,l pray for that person and if l have to say anything, l tell only my pastor😊
I have a problem with not discussing issues in church. The church itself removed the person. He didnt commit a crime legally so there is no adjudication. We can believe the pastors who removed them and the person who said they were abused.
Ha!!! Great content….
If we always waited for an actual verdict in a court in these times, especially in the political arena, we would likely STILL not know the truth. We know people by their fruit. We need to pray for discernment. I’m not saying we should gossip, but we do make our own judgments based on discernment and biblical guidelines.Having said all that, your rules are good where they can be applied.
And thats even if you trust the verdict of the Godless judicial system.
I work in a business that's known for gossiping. I try my best to keep conversations good and clean but customers sometimes don't follow my lead.
Thank you for things to practice.
Gossip is a problem sin, but the one I think is the most common and least preached against is anger.
'Never before stained nicotine fingers" I got that reference!
So true and it’s a waste of time too, only bored people with itching ears tend to gossip and over dramatise events and people. Dealing with boredom is a big issue , now with all conspiracy theorists increasing. Another reason for gossip is because we have to validate the truth. Many people are speaking lies and so we do a verification by asking someone else. I am not sure if that is gossip.
Actually people need to Gossip more. Gossip is a word an oligarch uses to describe unauthorized chatter between his subjects. The problem is NOT enough gossiping.
Yes, indeed. Very true.
I have actually seriously considered this as an upcoming sermon. Maybe I should just take notes on this video and hand-out the notes. Can’t put it much better than this.
Maybe you should exposit scripture like a real pastor.
I agree with Todd that a person accused is not automatically a guilty person. Many fall into this trap of when a pastor is exposed publicly of certain allegations, our tendency is to believe them right off the start. After all, who would lie about that? Truth be told, many. Some for financial gain, some for notoriety, and some for revenge. Unless the accused admits to the allegations, we all need to keep silent and wait for that scenario to play out.
theres your side, their side. and then the truth to every story
How about gossiping about other Christians? I can’t be around it. It just hurts.
1:50 - “[waving paper] never before nicotine stained fingers”
That was hilarious!
I burst out laughing when you did that!
Thank you for adding humor to such an important topic of conversation.
Yup, a nod to Old Rushbo.
Todd Friel is hilarious 😂
I hate gossip. There is always another side.
I struggle with this
That end made me lol
Way too many Christians tolerate way too many sins because we think Jesus said be nice all the time and forgive instead of having righteous anger. Might i refresh your memory of what Jesus said in front of Pilot and the Jews, My kingdom,” said Jesus, “doesn't consist of what you see around you. If it did, my followers would fight so that I wouldn't be handed over to the Jews." Vengence is God's but our society is ours and we must not allow for sin to be tolerated because being a Christians means being kind and only kind.
It's not gossip if you end it with, 'bless your heart.'
What I find so discouraging is all the “brothers” that tell you why so and so are false prophets or generally have to tell you why you should shun them and their heresy just to get clicks all the while destroying their reputations and ministries.Every time I see a thumbnail like this I am saddened and think about who they might have reached had they not ruined their credibility. Not only the party they are speaking about but also the person speaking…how many people they may have deterred from following Christ because they are “warning” everyone about that man of God!
You want to know what sin goes undisciplined by modern church? Divorce
God once dealt with me on this by bringing this question into my mind. “ Would you say the same thing with the same tone of voice if that was your son.” Ouch! I’d never thot like that before. It really knocked me back a couple “steps.” So, when I speak of another brother or sister, I put my son’s head on their shoulders. Wish I could say I’ve rigorously obeyed that rule…but alas, been negligent here and there. But, I am miles from where I once w as walking. Try it.
Everything Todd is true. But what about gossip that's done from the pulpits? Some Evangelical leaders are making it their entire ministries to slate Charismatic ministers by name. Thousands of people listen to what they say and then brand the Charismatics without listening to their perspective. Is this not also gossip? It maligns other believers after all.
Its following the New Testament often repeated instruction to beware of false teachers. This not gossiping can be used as a cloak for sin
Can't live a sinless life. Glad I don't live under the law, I'd never make it nor would anyone else!
If such actions are, in fact, true, reporting heretics and criminals leading leading "churches" is not gossip.
I thought the bit at the beginning was an advert, and was trying to skip it.
I just realized I was unsubscribed from your channel… Might want to make an announcement to your viewers to check and make sure they’re still subbed.
I wrote to the church, but Diotrephes, who loves to be first, will not welcome us. 10 So when I come, I will call attention to what he is doing, spreading malicious nonsense about us. Not satisfied with that, he even refuses to welcome other believers. He also stops those who want to do so and puts them out of the church.
3rd John….
Believers need to be warned of wolves
One word response - OUCH!
Nicotene stained fingers??? What does this mean? Did I hear him right?
I can’t tell which one was Todd.
I have seen gossip absolutely ravage churches. It's terrible. I'm tired of Christians brushing "socially acceptable" sins under the rug. It is so wearying.
So funny… but (convictingly) true!
Meddling is Murder !!!
Great job! Are you planting a “rumor weed”? How are you using your words? Tongue? Bible has plenty to say on this 😏
Sorry I'm not sure if i'm understanding. So what do we do? We stay completely quiet on certain things even when we get the facts on both sides of the story?
Not exactly. I think we can talk about it if it is helpful, but not if it is slanderous. And I think it is very important to go to the person directly first. In my experience, that would save a lot of confusion and hard feelings.
@@deannemiller891 Oh I see yea that makes sense actually. Thanks for the reply.
@QuietlyContemplating There's some things in life where you have to speak up. Staying quiet can do you or others more harm than good.
How many Times should I firgive my brother 77 times?
The vast majority of Christians do this without conscience. It’s why I would never confess my sins to another professing believer, because no matter how “mild” the sin, it would be all over the place in time. I know to never say anything at work even though they cry that everything is confidential, but the group that you would EXPECT to be above reproach on this matter is far from it.
Shout out to Steve Brown...etc.
Needed this. God will make a way. Where there seems to be no way. These last three years I’ve been struggling. But even as I struggle to support my children and myself I trust in you Lord. As a single mom things can be tuff both of my children are special needs but they are thriving now that I’m home schooling them my hours to work are limited. I also suffered a heart attack two years ago and I’m battling lupus. Thankfully God is my rock! So as I struggle to pay my rent or as I struggle to buy groceries. I know God will make a way. Where there seems to be no way. He works in ways we cannot see. He will make a way for me and my children I have faith! God has not forgotten me. Thank you Heavenly Father.
I have seen this post planted on many different Christian YT channels for awhile now. All with gracious and helpful replies, but it continues to pop up.
@@mrsshmarek Same I'm starting to think it's a cash grab but I pray I'm wrong.
All of this is not possible. All of us would have to become Monks and live in a monastery far, far, from any civilization.
You should not repeat any rumor unless you are trying to find the truth. Unless you are trying to help somebody.
Almost none of these ever are adjudicated in a court of law. There is always some evidence, some clue, some confirmation of the rumors.
Spreading rumors is bad because it precludes repentance. It makes it almost impossible for someone to say I am sorry.
I keep clicking on your videos because I think they're Living Waters, lol.
Ever been handed a large check by church leaders to help with your financial hardship--that you didn't know you had? Talk about awkward and embarrassing. People often spread gossip under the guise of being helpful and caring. Often it's done for selfish reasons. Either way, all confusion and hardship would be avoided if people just went to the source. go talk to the person you are talking about. If someone talks about someone to you in the guys of helping them, send them away. Go talk to that person yourself. No one seems to get this!
Discovered your channel just a few days ago..appreciate this sharing
Yet being a friend of Bill Johnson is reason for me to make it my last viewing of your channel..Bethel church is not worthy to be called a christian church.
He says to just hear gossip is sin but I disagree. God hears gossip from people every day and he is not sinning.
"You are all Sinners !!!!" __Elmer Gantry
So what about CBN News?
You can tell they are lying because their lips are moving
Todd I thought you were going to talking about some church leaders in scandal, all you did was talk about me.
You should send this message to Jordan Riley. He spreads slander and vitriol on almost all his videos.
so in a nutshell
Build up not tear down.
If you can't share it, why talk about it?
To me the most dangerous sin is not doing the will of our Father because then Jesus will not recognize us in heaven and we will not enter Matthew 7:21
Although yes I am guilty of gossip it makes me feel good but feeling good is not always a good sign and it is not the will of our Father. I love you all out of the abundance Jesus gave.✊🏻💚🕊️
So lying to the public with False titles on your videos is Okay by your estimation?
I don't read stories or watch gossipy TV programs. There are more important things to dwell on. If you don't know the facts, keep quiet. I'm retired now but for decades I worked in the medical field where rules are strict. Even if it's a family member you couldn't share info without their permission. If I had permission, I would quote the person. "X" says she's...and says her doctor told her... It made it clear that the info came from the other person.
Another thing that makes you think is when you yourself are in counseling. Would you want your situation shared without your permission?
Be careful what you say and to whom you say it. And don't believe everything you hear .