HOW TO Set Up Your Fardriver Controller for Razor, Surron, Talaria, CrazyCart, Segway and BombMoto!

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  • @VoltronWatts
    @VoltronWatts  Před 4 měsíci +4

    Wanna build your own mini moto? Visit voltronwatts.com to get started! 🤜🤛

  • @drag1591
    @drag1591 Před 6 měsíci +9

    E-Conic cycles and Ryan Goodyear are the goats in the e bike game! Best in the business to deal with. Fair pricing and knowledgeable!

  • @VinSPURation
    @VinSPURation Před 6 měsíci +7

    Ryan is the man! Trust worthy, honest, kind, helpful… the list goes on!

    • @VoltronWatts
      @VoltronWatts  Před 6 měsíci +1

      100% 🤙

    • @VinSPURation
      @VinSPURation Před 6 měsíci +3

      For context - I’ve bought straight through him, he’s been a saint with all my questions and a wonderful teacher as well. He deserves all the praise !!

    • @VoltronWatts
      @VoltronWatts  Před 6 měsíci +1

      @VinSPURation a true review from a genuine customer!

  • @PatOutdoors
    @PatOutdoors Před 6 měsíci +5

    Thanks for making this very easy to follow. I've been intimidated to wrap up my Yamaha TTR project due to controller settings. But now I'm inspired to wrap it up!

    • @VoltronWatts
      @VoltronWatts  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Hell yea man! I’m glad it helped! Thanks for watching 👊

  • @garyjohnson1804
    @garyjohnson1804 Před 6 měsíci +6

    Awesome Vid! Can't wait for the Advanced Tuning Sequel!

  • @junkybuilt8990
    @junkybuilt8990 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Thanks for this video, was able to set up my 72360. You are the man! 🤘🏼

  • @Watts_garage
    @Watts_garage Před 6 měsíci +6

    Great video I’m about to set mine up now 👍

  • @elromanicobaby
    @elromanicobaby Před 6 měsíci +8

    Do far drivers only work with the more expensive motors? Like does it work with a cheap vevor motor?

  • @Epicgamer_Mac
    @Epicgamer_Mac Před 3 měsíci +2

    Thanks for the informative video! Hoping to continue learning more and more so someday I can take one look at the motor and instantly know the settings I’ll be tweaking off the bat in the FD app.

  • @alanwilliams3909
    @alanwilliams3909 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Alright you convinced me, just ordered my far driver

  • @god_seven
    @god_seven Před 5 měsíci +3

    I just ordered my ND72300 im so excited lol im going with a 60v 23ah 100amp battery. 😊
    By the way thanks voltron for the cool very informative content bro.

    • @VoltronWatts
      @VoltronWatts  Před 5 měsíci +1

      I appreciate you watching and commenting man! 🍻

  • @TheBrokenWii
    @TheBrokenWii Před 17 dny +1

    I appreciate this bro it helped so much thanks

  • @imho7250
    @imho7250 Před měsícem +1

    Very nice video on basic setup with emphasis that this is not a tune and every DIY installation (where you bought everything individually based on your own research) needs a tune. Any fardriver that comes in a kit (Battery, motor, controller) should have a safe tune before it’s shipped.
    One thing not oh Ryan’s cheat sheet that is overlooked because its in the PID section, and everyone is taught “don’t touch those or you might burn your motor!!” Lol, is that the AN number, which is the magnet arrangement, needs to be set. It doesn’t detect in autolearn.
    And it’s not mid-drive vs hub, its surface mount vs embedded. AN:0 -2 being large hub motor, AN:4-6 being small mid-drive with surface mounted magnets, and AN:12-16 being for the good motors (embedded, V-type, etc). Lol.

    • @VoltronWatts
      @VoltronWatts  Před měsícem

      Dude, thank you for sharing!

    • @imho7250
      @imho7250 Před měsícem

      @@VoltronWatts , thanks for making helpful videos. Many people need these to get started.
      I see Ryan signed your basic settings with his “220 Throttle ACC step”, knowing it’s basically the same as 224 but he can see who’s been copying his “tune” lol since nobody else would set 220. Lol
      Unfortunately there are zero Fardriver tuning videos and anyone who thought about making one later said “oh hail no!!” Lol. It would be a basic engineering course with a small section about the controller tuning.
      I think this is why every real controller manual says “professionals only”, and ASI doesn’t even let their average customer tune their own controller.
      KO Moto makes a great Fardriver tuning guide. If you go to their website and read their instructions you will immediately see it’s a Fardriver app with new skin. But they do a great job explaining the settings in short simple way.

  • @ghostphil69
    @ghostphil69 Před 14 dny +1

    Great video Voltron Watts we about to build salute you🫡 awesome content brother 🤙🏽

  • @E-bikeguy
    @E-bikeguy Před 6 měsíci +2

    Awesome video 💯👊🏿

  • @zemoney954
    @zemoney954 Před měsícem +3

    Great❤Thanks for sharing Stay safe

    • @VoltronWatts
      @VoltronWatts  Před měsícem

      Of course! Thank you for watching 🍻

  • @J5THUNDERTEAMECSNYC
    @J5THUNDERTEAMECSNYC Před měsícem +2

    Your the man Ryan ⚡️⚡️⚡️🗝

  • @figux10
    @figux10 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Hi all. My motor Golden Motor 3 does not change the direction of rotation, what should I do? 0-1 doesn't give anything

    • @VoltronWatts
      @VoltronWatts  Před 2 měsíci

      I don’t know anything about that motor. I’m sorry

  • @Full_Throttle_no_Brakes
    @Full_Throttle_no_Brakes Před měsícem +1

    There is also a race mode. It pulls even more power for a few seconds. Use carefully or you will fry things up

  • @stormlockefeer8236
    @stormlockefeer8236 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I have a problem, when i am not driving the controller goes into a walking gear and it goes max 5kmh. Then when i twist the trottle a few times it goes back to normal. Is it a setting?

    • @VoltronWatts
      @VoltronWatts  Před 3 měsíci

      It’s gotta be. Did you do the auto learn and that’s all? Or did you change any settings? Is your temp sensor setting correct?

  • @manicmods
    @manicmods Před 5 měsíci +2

    Nice channel, subd for more! Have you used the MY1020 featured in your other video with fardriver by any chance? I've purchased two kits from Kunray using that motor and FD. They both have a unique throttle issue I've just dropped a video on. In short, 1 out of 3 throttles results in only ~850 RPM ceiling. And outside of that she runs amazing 🙃

    • @VoltronWatts
      @VoltronWatts  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Hey man! Thanks for watching and commenting. I havnt ran a FD with the My1020. So I can’t speak to that unfortunately. I’ve also never heard of the issue you’re describing. Maybe hop in the fardriver tuning Facebook group and see if you can get an answer 🍻

  • @owenschofield1790
    @owenschofield1790 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Hello I’m wondering what does boost line current mean is is the max discharge (most amps the battery can take for like 5 seconds)

  • @user-hh3so2cj3c
    @user-hh3so2cj3c Před 27 dny +1

    Please can you answer my question. I am suffering from motor hall eror what i can i do to fix it? I have the same controller what you have.

    • @VoltronWatts
      @VoltronWatts  Před 27 dny

      Try a different throttle. I know it sounds odd but give it a shot

    • @user-hh3so2cj3c
      @user-hh3so2cj3c Před 27 dny

      What is the problem 😭

    • @user-hh3so2cj3c
      @user-hh3so2cj3c Před 27 dny

      @@VoltronWatts i already send the foto of the graph that i have. Please controll your facebook account

  • @E-drive-vq4fy
    @E-drive-vq4fy Před 2 měsíci +2

    I haven’t changed out many controllers, what do you do with mismatched connections such as phase and hall connectors? Is it best to cut them and rewire them or are their adapters?

    • @VoltronWatts
      @VoltronWatts  Před 2 měsíci

      I snip off the end and install a connection that works with the motor. 👌

    • @E-drive-vq4fy
      @E-drive-vq4fy Před 2 měsíci

      That’s what I thought, I wish someone just made adapters lol.

    • @imho7250
      @imho7250 Před měsícem

      It’s best to buy the waterproof hall connector that comes on every Fardriver and replace the 💩 connector that comes on some motors. Its not difficult if you have the tools.
      On my first build I took the lazy way out and cut the good connector off my controller and put the 💩 connector on that matched my motor. It had several problems along the way with pins getting pushed out and the ebike stops running when it goes over a bump. Eventually when moving the controller I shoved the hall connector into the batt (+) connection and it fried the hall sensor. This will not happen with the good connector, although the real issue was having wires without shrink wrap on the exposed parts.
      The real connector is super overkill and bulky but has secure pin locks and is 100% waterproof.
      You might be able to find an adapter but it adds unnecessary failure points.
      The same tools are needed for either connector. I bought a bag of 10 sets pretty cheap so I can do future projects or even redo some of the other molex connectors with a waterproof connector. The only reason not to is if your wiring compartment is too small for the extra bulk of the connectors.

  • @a.n.d.ae.v961
    @a.n.d.ae.v961 Před měsícem +1

    Which pin in the board of controller for single line digital speedometer?
    Because i can't found the light blue wire on the my controller, And the wiring colour is very different with your controller. i think the manufactur of my ev motor have been changed it.

    • @VoltronWatts
      @VoltronWatts  Před měsícem

      I’m not sure on that. Sorry. Would have to look at a fardriver wiring schematic

    • @imho7250
      @imho7250 Před měsícem +1

      If you have one of the new models like 72450, sometimes the LIN signal is on the brown wire, which is normally BOOST. if you use the boost feature just reassign that to one of the unused wired from the dropdown list.
      If you have one of the older Fardrivers like 72360 or 72850, the LIN is on the light blue wire.

    • @a.n.d.ae.v961
      @a.n.d.ae.v961 Před měsícem +1

      @@imho7250 That's right, I'm using a 72450 and pin 18 with the brown cable is already used for the BOOST feature. How do I change the brown cable to LIN and which of other pin / cable can be used for BOOST?

    • @imho7250
      @imho7250 Před měsícem +1

      @@a.n.d.ae.v961 , if your brown cable is used for boost and boost works, it’s probably not the LIN wire. Any of the unused wires in the dropdown lost can be used. These are normally the wires that have a 5v signal (not 5v supply) that are connected to ground to activate a feature such as reverse and cruise.
      Its a bit confusing because I think the pin number they use is the microprocessor pin, not the connector pin, so you have to look at the wiring schematic and see which pin is for which function.
      Does your boost feature work?

    • @VoltronWatts
      @VoltronWatts  Před měsícem

      Thank you for sharing!

  • @book791
    @book791 Před 2 měsíci +1

    With a emxlite 3 speed switch, do you auto learn in high?

    • @VoltronWatts
      @VoltronWatts  Před 2 měsíci +1

      That would work 👍

    • @book791
      @book791 Před 2 měsíci

      Thanks for the reply big dawg! I realized the fd would figure everything out lol but damn, these qs motors are crazy!

  • @Catamount19
    @Catamount19 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I have android and i can not find the far driver app. Anyone having this issue?

    • @VoltronWatts
      @VoltronWatts  Před 6 měsíci

      I have an Apple. Never used the android. Sorry I can’t help here

  • @THEPAINOFITALL
    @THEPAINOFITALL Před 6 měsíci +1

    I do not understand why FD are making the ‘bounding’ so difficult? Video, is good but have to watch it again, and screenshot, the important parts, thanks for trying to help ❤🙏

  • @adampecorari2015
    @adampecorari2015 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Best video for doing the install ?

    • @VoltronWatts
      @VoltronWatts  Před 6 měsíci +1

      You mean the wiring and all? EBMX Brandon has a good vid on that 👌

  • @stormlockefeer8236
    @stormlockefeer8236 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I dont have an motor with a temperature sensor but the graph says that its 1600celcius. Does anyone have any tips to fix this?

    • @VoltronWatts
      @VoltronWatts  Před 5 měsíci

      Not sure there is anything to do. If you dont have a temp sensor the number doesn’t mean anything. Unless I’m misunderstanding

    • @stormlockefeer8236
      @stormlockefeer8236 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@VoltronWattsi fixed it, i used the cacu tempeture sensor.

    • @VoltronWatts
      @VoltronWatts  Před 5 měsíci

      @stormlockefeer8236 right on 👌

  • @jaypeesantillan9288
    @jaypeesantillan9288 Před 6 měsíci +1

    good morning. how can i activate the motor temperature in the graph?

    • @VoltronWatts
      @VoltronWatts  Před 6 měsíci

      If your motor has a temp sensor it should show a number for the degrees

    • @djmedia01
      @djmedia01 Před 6 měsíci

      Under Parameters section, it says "TempSensor: xxxxx" scroll through each one until you find one that finds the temperature for your motor (might have to rev it to properly refresh in the graphs). My QS90 uses CACU in case anyone comes across this comment.

    • @imho7250
      @imho7250 Před měsícem

      If you don’t have any temperature sensor you can use Cacu which is a simulation program in the Fardriver. This simulation uses the RatedPower setting (which has absolutely no effect on controller power) to determine the thermal mass for the simulation, and then it will estimate the motor temperature based on the controller temperature times a gain determined by the value entered in RatedPower.
      This will never be as good as a real temperature sensor but if you have no sensor, it can be adjusted to protect your motor because it will still shut down the controller when simulated temperature reaches 160c.
      Its best to start with RatedPower set at 50% of max continuous power and then test it and see if your actual motor temperature is slightly cooler than the temperature gauge shows. If you set RatedPower power to 200%, thinking it gives you more power, it only tricks the simulation program into thinking you have twice the thermal mass and your windings can burn before the Fardriver reaches overtemp protection.
      If you don’t have the 6th wire in the hall connector, normally white, between the red and black wires, you don’t have a temperature sensor. If you have the wire and its a modern QS motor its KTY83-122 in the dropdown list. Always use the real sensor if you have one and your controller has the firmware for it.
      Note: The Cacu simulator will reset each time you reboot the controller back to the base temperature of the controller. This in no way means the motor has actually cooled off so if you got an overtemp, make sure to check the actual motor temperature with your hand and if its hot, ride at a very low power so it gets air cooling without the high current.

  • @bennyblaze4571
    @bennyblaze4571 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I literally can't find the app and a QR code with the link doesn't work. Any suggestions?

  • @hectornacho2474
    @hectornacho2474 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Great video sir!!! ,.. but to be honest I was hoping for more Kyle , (that shit kills me every time ...lol,..2 funny🤣)

    • @VoltronWatts
      @VoltronWatts  Před 6 měsíci +1

      You mean the alter ego, Voltron Squatts? 😂😂

    • @hectornacho2474
      @hectornacho2474 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@VoltronWatts yes, the alter ego is great whatever his name is , now I hope to see Voltron Squatts too. ... 🛵 🤘

    • @VoltronWatts
      @VoltronWatts  Před 6 měsíci

      Thanks for watching!🤙

  • @jonathanfleming3451
    @jonathanfleming3451 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I have 2 bikes.. I can connect to both and bound to one. The other says "no authorize" and won't let me change my parameters. Do you know how to bound it?

    • @VoltronWatts
      @VoltronWatts  Před 3 měsíci

      You might have to call fardriver and have them reset it. Has it always been that way? Or did it work at any point?

    • @jonathanfleming3451
      @jonathanfleming3451 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@VoltronWatts it worked until I switched my battery. Bought a hottpax and started this problem. I'm going to try the ant bms app. I also emailed fardriver, waiting on a response back. I just didn't know if I was just missing something

    • @Kennethdo1
      @Kennethdo1 Před 14 dny +1

      @@VoltronWatts I’m having the same issue, i tried emailing them and nobody got back. Do you know anyway I can contact fardrvier?

    • @VoltronWatts
      @VoltronWatts  Před 14 dny

      I don’t have a contact at fardriver, I’m sorry.

    • @VoltronWatts
      @VoltronWatts  Před 14 dny

      You get this resolved?

  • @adamzuzelski6259
    @adamzuzelski6259 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Anyone else have issues with the FarDriver app not accepting changes? I’ve been trying to update the pole pairs setting and no matter what I select, it stays at 4.

    • @VoltronWatts
      @VoltronWatts  Před 6 měsíci

      Have you used the controller on a different motor anytime in the past?

    • @adamzuzelski6259
      @adamzuzelski6259 Před 6 měsíci

      @@VoltronWatts nope. Been like this since day 1. Never anything else.

    • @imho7250
      @imho7250 Před měsícem

      Many older fardrivers or the clones do not allow any pole pair

  • @666.32
    @666.32 Před měsícem +1

    Mate what fardriver do you recomend me to use for stock surron stock batery

    • @Calthecool
      @Calthecool Před měsícem +3

      I think the stock battery is around 100 amp discharge, so probably a ND72340 because it can do 120 battery amps so you have some wiggle room. But if you think you will ever upgrade the battery then I would just go ahead and buy a more powerful one now so you don't have to buy another controller later.

    • @666.32
      @666.32 Před měsícem +2

      @@Calthecoolthx ,do you have insta?

    • @666.32
      @666.32 Před měsícem +1

      @@Calthecooland i stil can use the fardriver with the stock screen to see speed batery and that?

    • @VoltronWatts
      @VoltronWatts  Před měsícem +1

      Sounds good!

    • @Calthecool
      @Calthecool Před měsícem +3

      @@666.32 I don’t have insta, and I don’t think the stock screen is compatible. I’ve never even used a fardriver controller, my recommendation was just based on standard info about batteries. You want a controller with the same voltage and the same or more battery amps, and it should work.

  • @homaj321
    @homaj321 Před 24 dny +1

    I still need to buy my controller

  • @schmeglyomigy6174
    @schmeglyomigy6174 Před 6 měsíci +1

    This is a random question but what is the benefit of swapping the freewheel for a welded freewheel?

    • @VoltronWatts
      @VoltronWatts  Před 6 měsíci

      With a welded freewheel you get the added benefit of using regen within your motor, controller and battery 👍

    • @schmeglyomigy6174
      @schmeglyomigy6174 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@VoltronWatts Oh ok that makes a lot more sense now thanks for explaining it. What wires or cables do you even need to set that up? Are there any videos showing how to do this that you recommend? Thanks. Also, do you need a certain type of battery in order for the power to cycle back in?

    • @VoltronWatts
      @VoltronWatts  Před 6 měsíci

      @schmeglyomigy6174 the controller needs to be capable of accepting regen. There is no additional cables needed for regen. It all happens through the cables that are already there providing power to the motor when you are riding 🤙

    • @schmeglyomigy6174
      @schmeglyomigy6174 Před 6 měsíci

      @@VoltronWatts Oh wow that is really cool. I’m thinking about getting a fardriver controller. Do you know if that might work for it? Also, have you had experience with amorge batteries?

    • @imho7250
      @imho7250 Před měsícem

      @@schmeglyomigy6174, I think you are confusing welding the freewheel clutch inside a geared motor with welding a freewheel sprocket which nobody would do. It would only be for something with a bicycle mid drive with freewheel clutch between the pedals and the front sprocket.
      If you are using a fardriver you would most likely not use a geared hub so there is no freewheel inside and it will allow regen.

  • @jayhoody121
    @jayhoody121 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Compatible with any display??

    • @VoltronWatts
      @VoltronWatts  Před 5 měsíci

      I don’t know about “any”

    • @jayhoody121
      @jayhoody121 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@VoltronWatts ukc1 or tft display ? The typical generic ebike displays

    • @VoltronWatts
      @VoltronWatts  Před 5 měsíci

      Tft I know for sure

  • @andyfumo8931
    @andyfumo8931 Před 12 dny +1

    Fardriver doesn't recognize my mangosteen Bluetooth 😅

  • @Gokhan-fm9sn
    @Gokhan-fm9sn Před 7 dny +1

    Kalkarken zor kalkıyor neden? Lütfen bana yardım edin

    • @VoltronWatts
      @VoltronWatts  Před 7 dny

      English please

    • @Gokhan-fm9sn
      @Gokhan-fm9sn Před 6 dny

      The engine struggles and vibrates at startup. I changed the gas voltage and tried everything, but it didn't work.

  • @andysoles849
    @andysoles849 Před 3 měsíci +1

    what is 'p function?'

    • @VoltronWatts
      @VoltronWatts  Před 3 měsíci

      That, I don’t know, I’m sorry

    • @imho7250
      @imho7250 Před 3 měsíci

      P function is PARK Function. Basic setups wont use this. Some annoying ebikes use it so that when you turn the key on, it starts in Park and won’t move if you twist the throttle until you press some button to put it in drive.
      In basic setup you don’t have an extra switch to waste on this and you are smart enough to know if you turn the key on, the throttle will make the bike move.
      The very sophisticated electric motorcycles have side-stand safety switch and also a PARK mode, both will prevent the throttle from making the bike move. But on a basic bike these are just extra things which can cause the controller to stop making power so most people don’t use them.

  • @bj97301
    @bj97301 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I can’t use fardrivers because their throttle response is garbage. Not sure how you guys can put up with this.

    • @VoltronWatts
      @VoltronWatts  Před 6 měsíci +4

      Maybe it needs to be tuned properly. 🤷

    • @garyjohnson1804
      @garyjohnson1804 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Just need to address it in the tune / app

    • @VoltronWatts
      @VoltronWatts  Před 6 měsíci +2

      👌

    • @drag1591
      @drag1591 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Put your fardriver throttle setting on "line" and tell me it doesn't have throttle response 😂

    • @VoltronWatts
      @VoltronWatts  Před 6 měsíci +2

      @drag1591 🚀🚀

  • @yousit2pee
    @yousit2pee Před 6 měsíci +7

    make sure you catch ryan on a good day or he will block you.

    • @VoltronWatts
      @VoltronWatts  Před 6 měsíci +4

      Hahaha! You got blocked? 😂

    • @yousit2pee
      @yousit2pee Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@VoltronWatts yep lmao. For asking why he went afk for 5 whole min during a tuning session that HE scheduled . 🤣 funny but tragic since he's got the market cornered and i use FD 🤷

    • @VoltronWatts
      @VoltronWatts  Před 6 měsíci +6

      @yousit2pee cornered is a bit of a stretch I’d say. Lol. The info is out there to learn to tune just gotta find it. 🍻

  • @ghostphil69
    @ghostphil69 Před 14 dny +1

    Ryan Goodyear is awesome helped me so much and helping me on my other build what an awesome dude🤙🏽🚀🦾🫡