STOLEN from the Auction, $3500 Crane. Will it Drive Home? Will it Lift??
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- čas přidán 4. 11. 2023
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This was a fun one! Hope Yall enjoy! Thanks to Sam from @scrappyindustries for helping me get this beauty home!
Good to have great friends matt , well done Sam helping out again 👍
I'm sure it was! A very unusual machine compared to your content!
Hey matt, i have a rather personal question, what is the best way to contact you for that?
It's great to see you and sam working together!
You sould invest to walkie talkie, it can come handi
Hey Matt, I work with cranes a ton in industrial construction. Please consider getting some crane outrigger pads if you are going to be lifting anything heavy on a dirt surface like that. They don't need to be fancy, even on brand new cranes I've worked with generally they're just a couple layers of 2x6 made into a circle about 2-3' in diameter. They're generally made in a circle because it makes them easy to just roll around to where you need them. With those small pads on that crane and the amount of force it can put into the ground you risk it shearing the earth and causing the crane to tip over.
yeah the pad racks are empty....you need hardwood and usually some plywood between layers.... he might find some on an auction... my crane had lots of pads
I am a little concerned that Matt made no reference to a load chart.
I don’t know… maybe 4 - 6 4x4 steel plates 1” thick with a lifting hook on them… I have seen lots of cranes use them. Also fire departments use 2x2 plates for their outriggers on ladder trucks…
Yeah, definitely needs some jack pads. I’ve used 3’ square, 1/2” steel.
Great advice... I have watched a lot of cranes in real life, and on YT... pads are always used. He reads all the comments, and I'm sure will see all these comments, and eventually get some. I have 2 examples of 4 axel wheeled cranes similar to this, but a bit smaller, on our family model RR... they are 1960s era P&H prototypes.
Matt, the 2 flip over brackets on top of the boom head are to connect to and support the fly-jib via adjustable steel rods, you don't need to worry about them as there is no fly with your crane. The pin behind the boom head is to lock the manual boom extension in its extended or retracted working positions, it is positioned with a level main boom in the correct sequence under power using telescope function. Do you have 4 pins in the tackle box for locking the outrigger jack cylinders which are not fitted with check valves, as I note in the video they have not been inserted and the crane is not safe for lifting unless they are fitted. Both hoist ropes show significant surface rust and likely are poor condition internally, you should consider changing them out to prevent a load failure. The main hookblock is missing its safety catch to stop lifting cables from becoming detached. If setting up in your yard you will need good cribbing blocks or steel plates so the jacks don't punch a hole in the ground when lifting, also does the crane have a working rated capacity indicator fitted ? There should be 2 independent means for control of slew system, the hand lever you operated should mechanically engage the swing lock device directly at the slew ring gears/teeth and there should also be a foot pedal to hydraulically actuate a brake near the swing motor. You will need to obtain and carefully read a complete operator manual before using this machine, despite the above comments for $3500 it looks a good buy.
AlanK, relax it's just a demonstration lift .
@@theda850two It all sounds like good information that I imagine Diesel Creek will appreciate.
@@LeoA2600,, you're right. We all need watching over.
Thanks for sharing. Knowledge from experience has no substitute.
@@theda850two Nah, it's not "watching over", it's a direct response to a request in the video, Matt asked if anyone in the comments had information on a few things of which @alank2296 addressed nicely.👍
Yep-i finished the video and saw the orange paint under that panel by the seat. I used to run this crane. I know everyone else that did too. I could tell you alot about it. She was a good crane, especially with the jib on. Smooth and fun to operate. She's done a whole lot of work in her life. She dont like to stop when yer drivin her down the road because the front axles dont have brakes. Those are the dogs to run yer boom out on the top of the boom.
Very cool! Who owned it at that time?
That is so amazing that you recognize this specific crane. How cool is that? You should ask for visitation rights 😎
What do the two things that flip up on the tip of the crane do? That's so neat you recognize this crane!
Wow. That's like connecting with your grade school English teacher when you're in your 60's. What are the odds? I know because it happened to me.
@@InsideOfMyOwnMind that is very cool. I am happy that you were able to experience that.
You can just tell that the previous owner loved that crane. It was probably an estate asset that was liquidated at the auction with no reserve because the family didn't know what else to do with it. What a great find man, I'm super stoked for you.
That's why I left everything in a trust to my daughter. She can get the guilts for selling my junk. Causing problems even after I'm gone. 😂
@@GeneralSulla hahaha
I agree. That's probably why they were both so cheap
The branding on the crane next to them, with the same color pattern, is for a current company that exists. More realistically, they were clearing the yard for new cranes, as they have much newer models advertised on their website. Auctioning is just an easy way to get a couple bucks for something you were going to throw away anyway.
@@PC-ge5rf Well, I like my idealized feel-good version better. 😂
Memories+. Back in the mid 70's, I helped move a Grove crane 175 miles at a top speed of 35 mph. We took five 55 gallon barrels of diesel to refuel, not knowing where we could get any along the way. It took 9 and a half hours, and 4 drivers to get it home. And 2 days to recover from the trip. We fueled up at the bottom of Evansville hill and filled up again at the top of the hill, 55 gallons. 5 to 6 mph.
Thanks for letting us come along.
The bar is for the jib. To slide out the fly section you extend the last section fully. Set the boom tip on the ground to get the pressure off the boom slides. Pull the fly section pin then retract the boom section. It should slide out as you retract.
Hey Matt,you got a good deal on that crane for sure. Im a retired heavy lift crane operator with over 40 years experience,I have operated many of those old Groves back in the day. Make some good outrigger pads so you don't sink, put 4 parts on the block, probably all you need.Know the weights of what your lifting and study the charts.Most of all be safe and careful.When things go wrong with a crane, its usually not good!
yep, they usually end up on youtube as "ultimate fails" or "when cranes go wrong"
Yup I have a ton of ‘not good’ stories..
Mechanical failures to experienced tag line personnel gone wrong, thinking they’re god’s gift to crane ops.. hospitalized from a near dead bad day.
Most tho had to have a relatively harmless diaper change.. lol.. Nuf said!
I was thinking 4 was probably all he needed as well. Line pull 12,000?
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Plenty of people can talk the talk but far fewer walk the walk - this guy is wearing out boots!!! Buys a crane pretty much sight unseen and proceeds to tinker around to the point where it literally comes to life. No doubt his commonsense and ability to think things through stands him in good stead - well done and enjoyed the video!
Matt there should be a mandatory cut away in every vid where your Mrs gives her review of the latest purchase 😂
That’s a good idea lol
Tried it. The sound track was completely wiped out with all the bleeps!!
I’m not sure that CZcams would accept it !!!
Ahhahaha
Criminal! Great job!
Hey Matt, I'm not a crane expert, but troubleshooting hydraulic mobile cranes is what I do for a living. I'm not familiar with that model (and especially not that swing brake), but I do know that we have gotten both digital and paper copies of manuals and schematics for our old Groves from our local Grove dealer. You might try giving them a call and asking for the Operator Manual, Service Manual, Service Maintenance Packages, Parts Manual, Schematics, and Load Charts and they can get you that stuff by machine serial number. I'm not sure what they'd charge you, but that information is invaluable for a proper crane like that. Grove manuals are generally very good with explaining theory of operation but not always accurate on specifics. We had an issue with the number of springs in the hoist brake (ours took 9, not 6 per the manual, and we found that out at load test LOL). Feel free to PM me with questions if you want and I'll try to help you out.
I second this. Those old Grove manuals, if you can find them, are a god-send. They didn't leave a stone unturned.
Unless you get one of those weird grove cranes built in Korea.
Indeed, having a load chart may also prevent stupid mishaps, guess those cranes don't have an overload protection apart from the operator sense of orientation.
@@Compasscard The "overload protection" was simply its ability to start tipping before it breaks. A new one will just break, shortly after beeping fiercely at you lol.
Manitwoc is usually pretty good about having diagrams and whatnot.
I don't think you could rent a crane that size for a day for that price. Great buy!
Likely not rentable as they wouldn't let novices operate it.
@@xephael3485wet hire
@@xephael3485I’m assuming he meant standard crane rental where they send an operator with the crane, you don’t operate the machine.
I was going to say. Rent it once. U get ur money back. Twice is profit. Kids in the neighborhood would pay to play on it. Lol it's the coolest ever
The lever to the left of the seat is probably the swing lock and not a brake. The Grove RT522 that I had the pleasure to operate had a similar control that drops a large pin which locks the swing for travel. Pulling the lever up drops the pin and pushing it down lifts the pin.
People just out here driving absolutely ANYTHING they want on the open roads. Its honestly inspirational
America! 🇺🇸
Murika! YEAH!
Not in the California country.
Wish it was done more instead of "in mexico"!!
Be nice to my vehicles LOL
Hi Matt, the bar is I believe for a "Fly Jib" it is a Lattice form and If I remember it is about 30 feet long. it gives you a much better reach and also allows you to offset further. You have a fast line now and also the headache ball, As I watch I see you have now a Main Block that is the one for the big lifts you intend. Please look inside the cables for corrosion. the core of the rope needs to be lubricated as it will give much more life to your lines. I worked extensively with that type of crane for years back in the seventies it is a great machine I also see you have good sling brothers which is fantastic!I will see if I can find the lifting ranges for this setup you have and for sure get a chart for safe lift loads/ranges!. but perhaps you already have that? I strongly advise you to test the overload bell! and never turn it off!! (I have seen them go over and it is not a happy ending) the previous owners have kept it in good condition, as a preventative maintenance why not cover the coiled cables when left for a long while? (pour clear rope oil on all the rest, clear because you will find it dripping all over your great-looking machine! You gave me a lot of happy memories looking at that old lady working thank you ... remember it is all about the angle of the dangle!
_"plus the mass of something"_
Mmmm, I would *_debate_* that. 🙄
(sorry, somebody had to reply like a 14 year old schoolboy. 😁)
Yea what he said
hee hee, not going to "add" anymore, but that little jingle came back to me and made me giggle. Thanks @@josephking6515
Since you're experienced on these cranes, could you tell me what the spinning knobs on the line controls are for? Im assuming its to count the length of line going in or out but I wasn't sure.
@@Mr.PudgeMuffin They show you how fast the drums are spinning, to let you know the cable is moving. If youre lifting blind say over a building or behind a wall, you can't see the load moving up or down, the knobs let you know the cable is actually moving, and how fast.
Since the main cable looked like there was a possibility it was broken off, but not sure how much, it would be well worth the time to raise the boom all the way up, extend it all the way out, and lower the block to the ground to be sure there’s enough cable on the drum to reach and still have sufficient wraps on the drum to hold fast! Not a bad idea to slide that jib (extension?) out too while checking the cable length, even though you don’t plan on using it. I’ve seen some nasty things happen as a result of “short” cables over the years! Also beware of “double blocking”, which is lifting the headache ball or main block to the point that they bottom out into the point sheaves or guides! That can cause major damage or catastrophic failure, and this crane is too old to have the OSHA mandated “anti two block” detection on the boom point. One heck of a deal here, and just what you need! It’s often cost prohibitive for companies to bring these older cranes up to the required standards of modern days even though the machine might be in excellent condition! This thing probably sat for years while the company debated updating it, but ultimately threw in the towel!
Good -onus mate good to see the one girl fire up again.
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😮😮😮. To. All. I enjoy these Shows.
Also depends how much work it's done. If it requires anything like a slew ring it's probably not worth it. Yeah sorry probably should have read your whole comment first...😂
Great purchase! Be careful at all times when operating a crane, they can easily kill you and anyone around you. Be safe! 🙏
Matt, It's doubtful you'll ever have that fly section out, because with that much stick out lift capacity really takes a hit, but if you do run it out make sure to follow the manuals instructions. The worst accident I ever saw with a hydro crane, happened because the fly wasn't re-pined after it was extended, causing that section to drop on a worker below. Get the manual, always check the load chart before doing any heavy lift. If you know a qualified operator, it would be worth it to get instructions on safe operating procedures. It's tempting to just wing it, like we do on most equipment, but a crane is a whole different thing as it and an inexperienced operator can cause injury and death so fast. Nice crane though.
You're absolutely right, friend, a Crane is a totally different animal. You can wing it with just about anything else, but not a Crane, my friend!!!
I agree entirely. We want you to stay safe.
So right guys. The second you take something for granted and "assume" you know what your doing it bites you in the ass big time. Scaffolding "seems" simple, but make one mistake and someone gets hurt or killed. And, forklifts seem simple too, but if you don't understand the physics and limits, one simple mistake bites you.
it looks like an old 40 ton and yah the manual was not needed most of the time we had one in out company for many years its a great workhorse
Having owned and worked the smaller TM180 Grove crane-- I STRONGLY suggest you find an original Grove Owner's manual. there is a lot of maintenance information and also safety checks.. Also-- the hydraulic jacks are rated to lift the crane for levelling but NOT lifting over-- they jacks require lowered onto the pins or the seals will get blown...
Having owned a number of this era Grove cranes in the Uk i can confirm that Gove stopped fitting these outrigger pins around 1972. In the 27 years of running these we never had an outrigger jack seal blow.
Hi, nice crane with a lot of potential, I did some repairs on a couple of this GROVE models some years ago, I recommend you to get an LMI for the crane to make it safer when operating and also to prevent accidental snaping on the cables and stressing the crane overall, I Know the electrical system is very basic but a general check up wont hurt, it should be nice if you can upgrade at least the fuse boxes since they always give some troubles, also check on the electrical swivel. Best Regards.
What an incredible deal! I almost cannot believe your good fortune in getting this crane for the price you did! Way to go!
I’ve worked around cranes for almost 30 years and a few suggestions (I’m sure Matt has already thought of) before really utilizing that crane:
1. Reach out to the manufacturer and they can send every book, manual, tech sheet, and load chart associated to that crane. The load chart is critical in itself but if you ever use the jib, you’ll definitely want a load chart.
2. Get some crane mats to distribute the load path to the ground.
3. Not knowing the age of that cable, it would be worth the money to replace it, if nothing else for peace of mind.
4. If there are no inspection records, I would suggest having the boom sections and outriggers inspected by a licensed professional.
For $3500 you definitely came out winning on that deal no matter if you keep it, sell it, or part it out.
Another great video showing old stuff is pretty cool and useful.
This is extremely sound and wise advice given here Matt.
I’m pretty sure he’ll make that $3500 by just selling the wheels lol
@@willyberg123Better to be safe than sorry with a lot of heavy unforgiving steel.
My first thought was, that it has a crack in the boom, and it is why it is so cheap. Get the crane part inspected by a licensed professional, before you try and lift something with it.
FORD to the Rescue! Sam is an awesome guy to have for a buddy! Thumbs up to Sam! 👍
You got that right!
I picked up a 1985 P&H 30t T300 30t hydraulic truck crane. Best thing i bought in along time. I drove it 200 miles with no issues. Runs and operates better than most newer cranes i run. Private use is great, running it commercially is tricky to find insurance. It took two weeks to get a quote due to they did research on my work history, tractor trailer insurance history and my CDL history. 4k for 2 mill annually which is great. Best part is maintaining it myself. Congratulations on the rig
You could lift the roof off the shed, add another row of containers and lower the roof onto them. More height and more space.
Thanks for vid.. always great.
Accessing the upper containers might be a problem though 🤷♂️.
@@johnnunn8688 Naw....He can just leave the boom arm out and walk up and down the boom! AmIright? :)
Everyone needs a friend like Sam!!
A proper crane indeed. Pick that roof, double stack the containers and set it back atop like toy blocks.
Very cool piece of equipment.
I was also thinking he could double stack the containers as well and then set the roof back on. Maybe go Andrew Camarata on it with a half bath downstairs.
Well done on an excellent buy. I see in the comments that you have some good advice to follow up on. Regarding the lifting cable: It will have a safety factor greater than 3 times it's load rating. You should check exactly what the U.S. regulation is on this safety factor. In the UK the factor is 11 times. As a rule of thumb, you don't need to worry too much about its condition until you see/feel broken strands, so it would be good start to pull it out from the drum to check and oil while you do so. Normally steel lift cable is wound around an oiled sisal core rope. When this dries out the corrosion problems and breakages accelerate. Great video.
An idea for the roof project, add another container on both side and add a stair case so you could have 2x the storage and 2x the roof height.
Just build a staircase on the end to get up into the upper container.and have the entrances opposed
Awww crap! I didn't see this comment until now! I just said the same thing an hour ago! LOL Great minds think alike. He will save a lot of fabrication steps by shuffling containers with his new crane! Although I think those are the 40' containers so...Maybe he's got extensions for the sling brothers.
Matt and Sam together you are unstopable. The dynamic duo. Love watching you guys work together.
Remember Matt, Two stroke Detroit's get straight weight oil! Multi vis gets around the rings too quickly during warm-up and you end up with stuck rings. At one time Detroit made mulit-vis recommendation but then people had problems and they went back and changed the recommendation back to straight 40 or 30 depending on temp. Chevron Delo 100 or Shell T1 will do. TSC has the Shell usually.
From a retired LEO, be advised that thes cranes are usually overweight on most streets. Be careful with that. The rickets can be expensive.
As a totally non-mechanical person I really admire your ingenuity.
Matt, that crane is one of the best purchases you have made in a long time. You will put it to good use soon. Sam is a great friend and very knowledgeable as well as an encouragement. Blessings to you and Sam.
The smile on your face when you hear a engine run, it is contagious. It makes us smile too.😁
Did anyone else see the ladybug at 34:42 ? 😂😂😂
Hi Matt, I was around way before you started the container shelter workshop. a few years later, now look at what you have. I dont know much about cranes as i'm only a dumb Airline Pilot. Love the content keep it coming.
Those bars on the Cat head are used for the wires on a fly Jib, the brackets underneath on the main boom are used to stow away a fly Jib...they are a handy addition as they are offset ...
I think you are a person to help the blind man see. 😊
Make sure your SLI Safe Load Indicator works, you only get one go in a Crane !!!!
I don’t think I have one of those lol
@@DieselCreekI think you two need to talk more.
What model is it?? I think I have a brochure for it.
The brackets on the boom are for the jib. You are right about the manual 4th section which can be extended hydraulically if you do it in the right sequence. Best of luck with your new toy but be very careful of what and how you lift a load. Tipping over a crane is never a good thing as you well know.
I'm guessing these don't have any load sensing of protection to prevent u from doing stupid stuff
@@Nebbia_affaraccimieino these were built before that 😂 so I guess in a way they were the test monkeys
I'm pretty sure that doesn't have a 4th section. I have a rough terain Grove crane and that pin is what holds that head to the boom.
I guess u can pull the pin out and pull in the boom from full extension and see if it slides out or falls off 😂
Scope, boom down, tie tip onto a truck or tree pull the pin, scope in put the pin in.
Best fuel pump install I've ever seen!
$3,500??? What a score. It will pay for it's self many times over! !! !!!
Having Sam as a good friend and fellow mechanic is such a blessing for both of you. I know it took time to develope such a friendship. I'm very happy for both of you. Great job getting the crane home.
I find myself tackling more "jobs" around the house after watching you Matt. The pull starter rope broke on my lawn mower and I thought about junking it and buying a new one, Then I thought..."What would Matt do?" Fix it of course! Found some 3 mm nylon braided rope in my shed, took the recoil starter assembly apart (interesting bit of engineering) and replaced the broken rope. Works fine.
And when the whole unit goes you can replace the whole recoil starter as well. I tend to go through 1 every few years as I buy cheap plastic jobs considering the state of my obsolete mowers haha.
This is how our forefathers did it. We fixed what was broken, not throw it out and replace it.
Great buy Matt!! I would suggest to replace the fuel filters on the DD 4-53. That should help with the misfire on the little engine and get better performance. 40 yrs of diesels. Especially Detroit Diesels and Internationals. Great content!
Awesome purchase Matt. It was obviously the farm needed something like this it still amazes me that people will go after others online and insert their stupidity where it’s not wanted or needed. Always love what you share with us. Lots of fun. Can’t wait to see it pick up that roof enlarger things.
Man flying a drone, from the cabin of his $3,500 crane whilst suspending a container...... Life don't get any better than that ! :) Thanks for another great video Matt
I'm SO happy for you Matt! This crane WAS an absolute steal!! My gosh, you can't even buy a good, reliable car these days for $3500! I can't wait to see what projects you have lined up for this gem. Enjoy!!!!!
Thing is, as machines get bigger, the market for them gets smaller and the cost of end of life / trailing edge tech gets lower.
@@bobroberts2371yeah, you can buy a used big assed excavator for what a used mini ex costs with comparable hours. Not as many people have the licenses, equipment, etc to move the big ones…or to work on them. But a 5 ton machine can be moved with a F350 and a 14k trailer…and without a CDL with farm tags in many states.
@@silverbackag9790 Yep, you stated the example that I was thinking of.
DT466 one of the best engines IH ever built. I had one in my combine, tractor and grain truck. Love the sound too. Cool crane btw.
Another fun scenario:
Power Company: "We'd love to hook you up, but we don't have a crane!"
You: "Hold my beer."
Load charts are really necessary. Load testing is really important as well. Different places I worked, crane accidents happened. Usually, it was because of underestimating the load or overestimating crane capacity. I've never tipped one over, but have been distantly involved in some of those. Most dangerous thing is booming down with a load that can't be grounded quickly. If you have to boom down with a load, or swing over the side, keep it very close to the ground. If it's up in the air, you'll lose the load and the crane.
You never fail to brighten a man's day with your videos, keep it up and may you keep in good health.
greetings from 🇨🇭
Thanks, you too!
@@DieselCreekyeah Matt. I’m going through a family tragedy, so this sort of little bits of joy is WELL loved
@@DieselCreekAmerican redneckery at its finest. Love it
😳 I‘m not the only Swiss guy here!?!?
So probably I'm not the only german huh?😂
metal winch line is actually considered a machine - since the individual strands are designed to move against each other. Some oil on the cable might be a good idea. Outrigger pads can be made just stacking and attaching several layers of plywood together.
It was weird seeing you buy something that didn’t need a lot of work. Great buy at a great price. Love watching your videos😊.
This young man seems to be so resourceful in doing things single handed ,its astounding.
Nothing to it but to do it.
The pin is for your second last boom to extend, the two red flipping bars are for the jib connection and you have already mentioned it correctly in the vedio. Right on.
All this baby is missing is a telescoping counter weight for when your doing full boom out near horizontal like picking up a long roof from some shipping containers 😮🎉
I know how you blokes felt, whilst in the Australian army we had a crane which would only do 35mph flat out. We eventually discovered that it had extra fuel filters (under the cabin)once we replaced them, we could wind the old speedo past the max which was 60mph.
You mean 96kph, Shirley? (You sure you’re an Aussie?)
Matt - the shot of the drone coming out of the container was excellent. Have a great day and God bless
Thanks! I was pretty proud of that one!
I was going to say the exact same thing.
@@DieselCreek you should be proud, it was awesome!
loved this! Hey on the roof with side wings, you could consider adddding another layer of those storage containers. This should give you plenty of side hight for your wings.
G’day Matt, the sunset shots of the 2 headers are brilliant mate. All your content is really interesting, from the rebuilds and maintenance and the preparation for planting. Best regards to Brad, Phil and Peter. Keep up the videos mate. 🇦🇺🏍
When you started up that grade and was bogging out..my clutch leg started quivering and was instinctively moving my right arm trying to help you grab a gear. The engine sounded really good at the start and I was hoping for the best. By the time you got to the top I had slugged most of a coffee mug down making this video a 2 mugger..Really nice editing and the transitions were a nice added touch along with the container drone. Good job Mr.Matt!
I laughed when I watched you pay out that cable using a rope attached to the controls and instantly felt better about some of my more questionable life choices! 😅
Yeah that was funny!
Maybe just wire up a 12 V connection from the main batteries to the crane portion, so you can just flip a switch and start the crane engine with the main batteries.
So you don't need two sets of batteries and if you need the crane engine you usually drove a while anyway, recharging the drive batteries again before you need them.
Also allows you to run e.g. the hazards continuesly while you're working without depleting the drive battery.
24:35 this song and view, plus the crane, gives me MASSIVE, and i mean MASSIVE “king of the road” “18 wheels of steel” video game type vibes. I felt like being a kid again and having fun playing them. Thanks for bringing back the memories.
Might wanna make some landing pads for your outriggers to give a bigger foot print. The ones we have at work are made from railroad ties
that's actually a splendid idea.
@@SudosFTW better to do it and be safe that have one sink into the ground and risk the crane turning over
Just what I was gonna comment landing pads are your friends Matt
Always even on pavement as per Nccco ANSI codes .
I flipped a RT over a Lorain punched through asphalt. Was a void under it .
That's a great tool to have when you want to move something big and heavy without the need to fire it up Matt.
I still can't believe you picked it up for $3500!!
Hopefully it should make light work of raising the roof on the container workshop and the house build roof when you eventually get the time to get the build under way.
First job for me would be sorting out the slew brake the last thing you want is to get a gust of wind shifting something and causing an issue.
Hi Matt I have been driving and operating cranes for 40+ years so if you need to know anything just get in touch. the main block is missing that one you have is the headache block known as that as it is so small you keep banging your head on it when doing maintenance or rigging. Now I have seen the video I suggest you have 4 falls in not the 8, loads will lift faster and you won't run out of rope when full jib is out. You done well with the pear and anker. the bars are for the flyjib as is the extra sheeath on the cathead.. the Manuel pencil jib is easy to get in and out you can pull out by hand or use one of your plants, to get it back in use the winch rope to pull it in. Keep up the good work mate.
I'm excited for you to have this thing Matt but please show it the respect it deserves. The higher your load rating goes the more dangerous it can get and we don't want to see you, your toys or anyone else get hurt. Get it inspected, get some proper dunnage (and set it up properly too) for going under the outriggers and if you haven't already get some sort of training for operating it.
Congratulations Matt! This is probably your best purchase ever based on the price/value. Having been around cranes most of my working career, please be careful as you have a very unforgiving piece of equipment as far a errors go. Pay close attention to your load chart and the condition of all your rigging. Have fun, just be careful. Really enjoy the channel, keep the videos coming!
Hey Matt...ive been running crane for 15 years and can give you a few pointers...you should switch to 4 part of line instead of 8. 4 part will be more then enough for most lifts you need and if you do need more line pull switch to 6 or 8 when needed. Will also save you from the line unwrapping on the drum in the colder months when those sheeves get cold and stiffen up. Plus 8 parts is really slow. Also you should put an anti two block on there so you dont pull the block or ball through the boom tip sheeves to eliminate human error.. that being said love the videos been watching you long before the c can roof videos hope my pointers help
Many years ago in a Liebherr 1400 I dropped it all on the ground resulting in the cable was unwrapped on the drum, had to buy pizza for everyone who had to work overtime.
It was a nightmare. 😖
You only do that once.
I would _personally_ go with a 16 part encabulator with epson sleeves and a cobalt nutted slapbob myself . 40 some years pickin' experience myself - nose mostly - y'all ever need any tips I'm an open book . Those new turbo encabulators are changing the game , however . I miss the days of rocker allan weeb nuts and netenyahu shims -- boy with those setups I could lift twelve morbidly big boned women and four dogs I tell ya . . ! ...well , I could 'pick 'em up' , but I couldn't _lift_ em actually . If y'know what I mean .. usually with the help of beer goggles , my buddy jack daniels about 60,000lbs of deep shame .
..what am i ramblin' about now ..? Dangit why do I always end up spinning yarns about heavy women no matter the topic..?
@@SabbaticusRexAlright, you got a chuckle outta me from "morbidly big boned" haha 😄
@@SabbaticusRexHilarious, Cheers 🍻
What a find! That crane looks fantastic and what you paid for it is amazing. Looking forward to seeing it use. Just watched Sam get his crane and bringing it home. Great video Matt.
What a deal! It runs, drives, stops, lifts, and everything. For less that its scrap value. Amazing!
I love the look of this thing. Looks a lot like a huge metal Tonka crane i played with in the 90s in the dentists waiting room
"It runs until it doesn't" should be on a damn t-shirt.
Reply "signed" to get it made.
This is ONE OF THE BEST BUYS you have done so far. This is as gooder as it gets...well done.
Can't imagine the look you would have gotten from the wife if you bought TWO cranes.
I think by this point she's resigned to the fact Matt loves a bargain.
😂 it would of been worth the look though
Paint one pink and say its her Birthday present, then get her to drive it, your " can she drive it " videos are hillarious, she,s a champ!
@@Roger-hq1yt Yeah. I miss seeing Miss Eva trying her best to help out.
She is such a GOOD WOMAN!
paint one pink, for her. :)-
The flipping bars are indeed for a fly jib, you connect the pendant cable's to it .With the fly jib there are some turnbuckle's for put the jib in a certain offset angle.
Great Video. I worked for Georgia Power Line Construction out of high school in 1972. We built the cross-country high-tension 230KV and 115KV transmission lines. My crew had 2 Groves, a 30T identical to this one and a 100T road crane. The 100T was for reach it had 120' with the Jib.
It's old and was probably designed by a dude with ruler because it's square as hell, and it has no bells and whistles, but it's clean and straight as a pool table
and that's why it's so charming. He should dry ice blast it and give it a nice paint job, pimp both cabins and fit led lights all arround, and maybe a different grille
and a bullbar in front of that.
You've certainly come a long way from building the container shed 👍
CZcams MONEY HAS WENT TO HIS HEAD LIKE DRUG DEALERS THEN CZcams CRASHES HE WILL NOT BE ABLE KEEP EVERYTHING UP. AND THEN ASK HIMSELF WHAT HAPPENED TO IT ALL . I KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE. IT WILL NOT LAST FOREVER . SAVE YOUR MONEY BUILD YOURSELF A SECRET STASH I WENT LIKE HELL FOR SEVERAL YEARS THOUGHT IT WOULD NEVER END WRONG
I certainly agree! So glad that Richie Bros. Are so close to you! I see a container house in the near future…. You have the 40 blue ones and now 20 ft. Green ones. Now have the means to rake and stack them. Before long you will just like in READY PLAYER ONE.
I watched you put up the roof between your original 2 containers, and looking at your ending aerial view of what your buildings and machinery are now is a fantastic achievement. I'll bet that you get to make some more logs and firewood in the near future...🤣 Can't wait to see the crane on the INSIDE of the shop being setup!
Yeah, he needs to get someone cutting planks from all those trees to make garages for all his equipment to keep them dry and out of rain and snow.
That turbo Spooling Just sounds So dang Good Matt Spicey 8:20 @Diesel Creek
I’d make that my daily drive Matt , passenger’s can’t bug you when they need to sit in a different cab 👍🍻
Be careful with those old hoist cables, they can rot from the inside if the center section is made out of fiber. As Brian from the channel bcbloc02 learned when his overhead crane cable failed a couple of years ago. He is lucky to be alive and well. I think he had something like 22.000 lbs on the hook. A big Cincinnati radial drill that hit his newly poured and dried concrete shop floor, from about 3 feet high and broke everything.
I saw that and thought the cable was definitely due for replacement just from the video. When he dropped that drill I just turned him off and never went back. Very stupid and avoidable.
@@ligurian728 I wrote that one down as an accident. However he is a bit of a redneck engineer, at least he was transparent enough to leave it in the video. In his follow up video, he explained that he had inspected the cable from the outside and thought it looked fine. But when he inspected the cross section from the break he realized what had happened.
Man, you have all the cool toys! 😉
"Moew Gooder" Now that sounds like something that I understand from my early days in North Carolina !!!
To use the manual extension, remove the pin, use the hydraulics to extend the boom beyond the length of the manual section. Set the head on the ground (or other suitable support) to release the tension and stress on the section. Then retract the hydronic sections. This will extend the manual section. To retract, remove the pin, and bring the boom to near level or slightly uphill configuration. Use the auxiliary winch (never the main winch) to pull the boom section back into the boom. Worked with this crane model a lot in my younger years with my dad. You have to clamp the dead end on the cables today. Take care of that girl! S
boomng up helps retract too. gravity helps
The 60 ton we had you ran the main boom out, loosened up the jam bolt, pulled the pin, then retracted the main, then put the pin back in tighten up the jam bolt. this should be similiar.
That f450 pull was pretty damn impressive! 😂
Hollywood level cinematography without costing 10's 0f millions of dollars, makes you think, where does all the movie budget go, maybe there is some money laundering going on. Fantastic find and video, Cheers.
Im 56 and can remember multiple stick cranes in the mid 80s i was not an operator but buddies family had 6 to 7 different sizes. Id move them from job to job because 2 operators had DUIs and couldn't drive them on public roads. In 1996 I can remember picking up a brand-new monster joystick no 15 handles 😂Red chromed out beautiful machine. My girlfriend drove me followed back. We stopped for fuel at a new Exxon huge station with neon a lot of lights clean brand new building. A new clean Kenworth day cab pulling nice stainless trailer was filling ground tanks. no other vehicles in parking lot. My girlfriend amateur photographer stood on a hil took several pictures at dusk mtns in background. Framed one for owner. Many people thought picture was picture of model scale diorama because truck, crane building was so new and clean. Best picture she ever taken. An Exxon rep heard about picture saw it paid hear to keep and use for ads. Like $1500 she jerked his arm off grabbing that check. yove probably seen it and didn't know.
If you put a new seat 💺 in it the value would go up by $30,000. 😂
And a windshield
be careful doing side lifts with this style crane you ideally do not want to lift with the boom swung past the forward outriggers its designed to lift from the back side. the front of the truck hanging off the ground acts as a counterweight. in crane trucks designed to be able to lift 360 degrees will have an outrigger in the front. I took some training to operate a similar grove crane to this but about 2 sizes smaller. also dump a bunch of oil on the drum for the rope to hold its rated weight it needs to be oiled
yep… the ring gear that drives rotation sheds teeth like a mfer
ive seen booms bent also
the load charts will reveal zones that have reduced capacity
i ran 39 ton altec …. no restrictions on those
Yet another excellent video!
I am hoping that you will show us another video of an Oil Change; changing out all of the Fuel and Air Filters; and whatnot!.
Well done, Matt!
Wow she fired right up first try she sounds Mad when you give her the beans 😂 5:20 @Diesel Creek
What a great deal! Major time saver when you move things around. Not that I don't like seeing you work on engines, but it's nice seeing you able to get things working with minimum effort. You deserve that!
Just need to make yourself some outrigger pads from 1" plate steel. You can make a jig to store them on the crane between the cabs and use the crane to set them and store them.
It has those, Matt just put some sketsy wood under the outrigs
Wood blocks are easier to manage.
@@The1nsane1 yes but they rot
@The1nsane1 we actually use both at work. Put the plates, then wooden ones on top of those.
@@Bigdaddyslasher Depends how you look after them and what they are treated with. In Australia cranes of this size use wooden blocks.
I know little about cranes but enjoy your brave adventures into these mechanical marvels. Great camera work also. Thanks.
That was most definitely a steal for 3500. That's probably a 40 or 50 tonner. What a deal. I can't believe that both engines fired right up for that price. OMG
Easily worth the money just from the motor, driveline and scrap value
I can't imagine how much each of those hydraulic lifting cylinders go for!! What a deal!
A cup of coffee and a Diesel Creek video while listening to my boys playing. Perfect Sunday morning.