Sealing Pelican Case Pluck and Peel Foam
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- čas přidán 8. 07. 2021
- Today, we're going to talk about Pelican Pluck and Peel foam, specifically how to cure it so it'll last that much longer. These foam cases are great for how snug they keep equipment and how easy it is to customize the case exactly as you want it. Unfortunately, foam that's designed to be plucked and peeled will pluck and peel itself with regular use. The cruel hands of time coiling around your fleshy neck will also rend the very youth from your pelican case. Ah, 'tis unavoidable. That's why we cure the foam, so it stays forever pure and young like a rose cast in glass or the porcelain memories of that one true and abiding love that got away because you were still too green in this cold grey world to love him or her correctly.
I hated this video right up until I saw what you wore to paint. Brilliant.
I gotta give you a sincere thank you for hanging in there. I've hate-watched plenty of videos but have yet to find one that won me over by the end.
I cant wait to see the results. Half way through the video!
@@Sola_Scriptura_1.618 Donald Duck and Fozzie Bear on one comment thread! This is a dream come true for me!!!
@@JJKoester dont forget about the East Bunny!
This was the best tutorial i've seen in a long time. keeping it functional het hilarious. 10/10
I had just bought a similar case and never thought of using sealers on the foam to keep it around longer! I love the your idea of using flex seal and I can hear the flex seal guy yelling in my case, "SO I SEALED THIS FOAM IN HERE!"
He was off my radar until I read this comment. The dude is cool by me. He says "woodur" instead of "water", just as the heavenly Father intended.
Nicely done! I really liked the comparison of 1, 2 & 3 coats at the end of the video as well!
Glad you liked it! Here's hoping we can continue to create videos that you enjoy!
I’m here for your cute outfit. Definitely try the paint with all of my hard case. Love it
This was informative and enjoyable to watch. Here is a complimentary interaction with the video to boost whatever it is that content creators are always looking for.
Boom! Thanks for the comment and the resultant up-doot that the almighty algorithm will bestow upon me!
Brilliant idea. Much better results than spraying plastidip. I applied about 7 coats of spray plastidip, and it looks like the example of just 1 coat of your 'brush on' flex seal solution
I'm two+ years in on the first one I did and even with regular use, the foam is sturdy as the day I sealed it. Having done it once, I do it for every case I have now and have even started sealing my friends' cases as well.
A spray on would work with a solid surface, I imagine. Foam is just so damn thirsty that it soaks everything up. The first coat feels like I'm just pouring the sealant out of the can.
Thanks for the comment!
@@JJKoesterhow does it do now? Does it shed a bit of flex seal on the items in the case?
@@sunnesonne On the older cases, the seal has ripped at high-traffic corners but it's still holding out. I continue to do this to new cases. The only difference is a go a bit slower on layouts. So I might spend a week or two experimenting with different gear placement in the case before I settle on a layout.
Love your painting outfit!
We bust out the costumes every now and then. I took some shit from a bunch of jocks who were biking by while filming that so I'm glad you dug it.
WELL SHOT, WELL EXPLAINED AND EXTREMELY WELL WRITTEN!!!!
This guy is a real character and I'm now a subscriber lol
Do NOT do this people! I used flex seal to paint my gun case foam and the smell of flex seal is so strong and NEVER goes away. Every single time you open your gun case it's unbearable. I had to throw my foam away it continued to smell so strong. Be smart, listen to my advice!
We do 2-3 coats and what you're talking about absolutely happens if you don't let each coat dry completely. Thinner coats dry more efficiently. What you're saying is absolutely true but there are ways to mitigate the smell.
Also, we live in Southern California where the air is incredibly dry. We leave it outside for the 24 hours of drying so it gets maximum sun. If you're living in a more humid area, I would go for 48 hours or more if necessary.
Pro tip: Plasti-Dip is basically Flex Seal in a spray can! I use plastidip on all of my pick-n-pull cases. I also use spray adhesive to glue the pick-n-pull down to the base layer of foam first.
I like your painting suit. And the view from your back yard (assertion)...
Thanks! I hope I didn't come off as speaking in definitive terms. I've never tried plasti-dip and will use that on the next Pelican case I buy. I'm curious about it but just assumed that it wouldn't be what I need because I do extremely thick coats of sealant. Also, I love the idea of glueing the foam down. It hadn't occurred to me and I just sealed the underside as I would the top.
Thanks for the comment!
Thanks 👍 for sharing this with us. Great 🇺🇸 👍 job 🇺🇸 👍
Is this the same kind of foam as EPA Shadow Foam that is sold in sheets. They make a type that is 30mm thick and 2 colors. There's a black 5mm top layer stuck to a colored 25mm under layer. Tops are black and under can be pink, yellow or other color. The idea is you get a cool contrast when you pluck out the top layer. Thanks for the video.
You’re a beast 😂🙌🏼❤️
Great Video! Why not use the Flex Seal in a spray can? I’ve seen people us the Plasti Dip. Have you tried that?
Just as another option, polyethylene foam can be used in lieu of the soft foam and would not need the coating. 2.2 lb is fairly firm but is still foamy.
I love the video description :) you, sir, should write for Black Library!
That's incredibly specific! But, you're actually not that far off. I have done writing for Fantasy Flight Games.
@@JJKoester I'm not surprised! Amazing content
Sweet!!
Neat! Petite!
So, get a witch's shawl on
A roost that you can crawl on
We're gonna pay a call on
The Addams Family
Good video
Thanks! Glad it was useful!
Solid video. Great tips. How long do you recommend waiting between layers?
I am liberal with my application and wait 24 hours between coats. I am living in Southern California and if I was doing this anywhere cooler or more humid, I would wait longer. Of course, if you use thinner layers, they'll dry faster.
Thanks for the comment!
The problem with sealing the foam is the smell never goes away even after drying. I definitely don’t recommend doing this.
@@JJ-lu6mg I disagree with this comment. The reason I leave at least 24 hours in desert heat/dryness is to let it dry properly. The ones I've done quicker than that still smell of the sealant a year later. The ones I let dry properly smell fine.
That said, from one JJ to another, if you don't like the smell of the sealant, don't use it. This video isn't a mandate, it's an option.
Thank you for your comment!
Really funny guy
Great video, thank you
Glad you enjoyed it! Also, thank you for taking the time to comment. We really appreciate it o'er here.
THANKS! Is it wierd that I actually like the look of one coat that foam look. Ill try that out and see if its strong enough for mu abuse.
That's totally legit! It's the foam rubber version of a damascus steel patina. I just treat my camera cases like hell and I need to sacrifice aesthetics for permanence.
@@JJKoester thanks for the info! I’m just curious. After the full cure, does it smell after it’s sat in the case a while when opened? Has it harmed any finishes of anything kept in any of your cases? I’m just worried about the paint on my guns/equipment.
Ok so after a day of drying and 4 days to cure, the foam did not melt using liquid flex seal. It held up very nice and feels a lot more solid. Barely any smell at all and gun finish/ equipment finishes are all just fine. Worried for nothing I guess! Thanks for the video.
Great idea to prolong the life of the foam !!
I'm now planning to do this to my case, and I just have a question. Have you tried to coat the inside? I mean where the tools would go, and not only the top and bottom layers.
I don't cure the inside of each well because, to date, there's been no need. The multiple coats on the top and bottom leave the foam so strong that I don't think it would be necessary. Also, I feel like the foam is less grippy and I want the gear to slide out as efficiently as possible. Adding a layer of sealant would quite literally gum up those works.
Lol at the bunny suit. Love it
So glad you dig it. When I was shooting that, a group of jocks rode by on bicycles and started making fun of me for being a nerd. But, darn it, I thought it was a pretty funny cut.
Plastidip does the trick as well, good video
This comment landed the day after I finished curing foam insets for all of our new cases.
Guess I'll have to buy more gear to test this out. ;-)
will the spray version of Flex Seal work as well?
I have never used the spray version of Flex Seal. I use such thick coats, I can't imagine the spray getting done what I want. However, if I were finishing a coat and wanted it to be more even, I would consider the spray. I just don't care how even the final coat is, just that the foam won't rip.
Cheers!
Amazing info, and I learned it all from the Easter Bunny
Funny, and informative
Will you get the same results with the spray flex seal?
I have never used the spray version of Flex Seal. I use such thick coats, I can't imagine the spray getting done what I want. However, if I were finishing a coat and wanted it to be more even, I would consider the spray.
Thanks for asking!
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Real dumb question. Do you paint rhe inside walls of the foam aswell?
Not dumb at all! We do not. We do multiple coats on the top because that's where we'll be jammin our mealy mitts the most. The insides don't see nearly as much abuse as the tops and the tops are so finished that it protects the insides.
@@JJKoester thank you so much for the fast response! Greatly helpful!
I had this same question
I'm currently doing research for sealing the foam of a rifle case (Plano, rather than Pelican) for a new airsoft rifle, and I wasn't really happy with the texture of spayed plasti-dip. The triple-coat example you show @6:12 is much closer to the texture I want to get out of this.
I do have a few questions though.
1: You mention that the case you did with the three coat technique was two of black and one of clear. My Case's pluck foam is approximately 36"x14"x1.5". How much Flex Seal Liquid would you say would be required for that? I intend to seal the bottom of the pluck with a single coat, leaving it rough. Then do the sides and top with two coats, followed by a coat of clear. Doing a similar treatment to the base foam. My current estimate is two cans of White (reason for that in a moment), one of Clear.
2: I intended to do a two-color install, with gunmetal grey pluck foam over a red (perhaps metalized, still in the planning stage there) bed foam. Most of these cases I've seen done are for camera equipment, so the wells are very deep, and bed foam isn't very visible, but I think this is going to work much better for a rifle case, as the pluck foam is much shallower, allowing the bed foam to be seen much easier. My question is: do you have any information or idea on how Plasti Dip and Flex Seal interact? My current idea is to do two coats of White Flex Seal to get the surface finish and texture, two or three coats of Plasti Dip for color, then one coat of Clear Flex Seal for colorfastness. The reason for white rather than black is that I _think_ white would cover up better. I figure one can of Plasti Dip in each color should work.
1) I believe a 32-ounce container is the smallest they sell and should be enough for 36x14 inches. I don't coat the sides as those are low-impact spots and aren't likely to wear. All you'd be doing is adding thickness to the foam which would make it sit less comfortably in the case.
2) I'm sorry to say that I don't know much about plastic-dip and flex seal. My suspicion is that once they're dry, they won't interact much at all. Flexseal is strong stuff when it's dry and I imagine a dip solution would also become terrifically stable once dry.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@JJKoester Thanks! Yeah, 32oz. is the smallest I've seen too. Now planning on one can of the base color, one can of the clear, one can of each plasti-dip color. I may just plasti-dip the insides of the wells when I do the top, so the colors are right, but I think you're right, doing multiple coats on the wells just puts an unneeded squeeze on what's going in them.
I was wrong! 16-oz is the smallest can of Flex Seal that you can get. That should be enough. I get to 20x11 cases done with a 32-oz can.
@@richardhanck972 16-oz cans here - flexsealproducts.com/products/flex-seal-liquid
@@JJKoester It comes in pints?!
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Oh my oh my you're so cute in the bunny costume. ❤️ Thank you for not doing this in the house. 😅
Did you seal the entire foam or just the top?
2 thick layers or 3 thin layers on the top as that side takes a lot of hits pulling gear out and placing it back in.
2 very thin layers on the bottom. Nothing in the middle.
Thank you
Will this work with cheaper foam
My guess would be yes but I would test it on a small piece before doing a larger piece. My guess is that cheaper foam is more air than foam and it will soak up the latex quicker. Please feel free to leave your results as a comment.
Great video, but I tried it on a Husky case and was disappointed that the foam shrunk up about 1.5 inches in length and an inch in width.
I don't know if it was the Plasti Dip or the quality of the foam itself. The finish though was what I was looking for.
I had to wedge the insert into the case with scrap pieces of leftover foam.
Wonder what only clear would look like?
Next case I seal, I'll do it all clear. Thanks for the comment!
@@JJKoester sweet thanks! I think if doing a “clean foam clean out” clear would look cool, if you have to glue some foam blocks back it may be better to give it a coat of black then clear so it doesn’t show glue, etc.
@@vaporwareproducts Love the suggestion. As much as I hate to say it, I doubt we're going to have to mend any of the foam in our current gear. We've already put it through holy hell and anywhere the sealant is, the foam isn't ripping. You are making me really curious about an all-clear coat though. Next case, for sure.
@@JJKoester haha! All good, thank you for the vid and starting the idea thread....
Has anyone tried the all clear coat on the foam yet and if so how did it turn out?
Lmfao that outfit to destroy! Laughing out loud here real hard! Thanks for the video!
Thanks for commenting! We were proud of that cut, if I'm being perfectly honest.
Any tips to get rid of the smell? I did mine 3 days ago and it still wreaks?
Oven flash? Lol
Try letting each coat dry completely before adding another coat or the small will follow you for months, however faint. This is easy for us out in the desert but I can easily imagine how long drying would take anywhere else.
@@JJKoester that's 100% the issue I did not allow enough time for each coat to dry. I'm going to leave it out in the sun for a few weeks
@@SMack-mj2bp Tell us how it goes! My concern is that the top and bottom create a seal that makes the finisher in the middle dry really slowly but my OTHER theory is that if you can smell it, that means that particulates are floating away and that means it's drying.
Amazing what a picture on a wall will do😂
Too much talking, but I did learn something after seeing the results of each coat, thanks.
You are not the first person to levy that claim. Thanks for sticking through it despite my blithering. :-)
first impression, complete dork! But actually, I like this dude - he is funny! I would have a beer with him. oh yeah, content was good too.
Is the bunny suit required?😁No but is 2 masks enough protection?
I've always been comfortable with 2 masks. But, I'm not the final word on your health. If you want to get a proper industrial mask and wear that, you could. If you smell the stuff and feel like you'd need 3 N95 masks, go for it.
No Spray can of flex seal? , I sward my boat in half.....
We're not anti-spray. We just went straight for the paint-on kind because we heap in on so dang thick. The next case we cure, we'll use the spray to see how it goes.
Thanks for the comment!
You know if you already own a flat head screwdriver, “or really anything else flat like a pry bar” there’s no need to spend a buck, buck fiddy on a “paint key” 😂 also, I’ll never paint anything again without wearing a giant bunny suit..
I used to use a screw driver but one I started making fat CZcams cash, I figured why not live it up? This video alone earned me $0.0003. I figured if I had that dollar buck fiddy, I should let the world know.
@@JJKoester I found the video in a google search trying to figure out if I could use clear flex seal in a spray can instead of plastidip for my pelican foam, your the first video that pops up when you google pelican foam and flex seal 🤣
hahahaha great narration
Glad you liked it and thanks for watching!
I'm sorry, but very early on in life I learned to never take advice from any pink bunny who can't fight his way into a can. Also, if it smells so awful, why would I want to smell it every time I open my gun case???? No sabe.
That's an absolutely fair opinion. I'm more forgiving of the bunny community, especially around Easter time, but I understand and respect where you're coming from.
This guy is missing his true calling. He's a laugh riot and should start doing standup comedy!
Did you get that crap all over a public park bench? Smh
... I use a piece of cardboard. ☺️You're silly!
😂
Thanks for the comment! I don't think people understand how sincere CZcamsrs are being when they say that comments help. Cheers!
that cloth mask (even in layers) is not going to do anything for the VOCs you are dealing with when using flex seal. Get a real resperator.
It's called "pick n pluck." Not "pluck and peel" 💁💁
Oh, not in Utica, no; it's an Albany expression.
You talk to much. Get to the point!!!
Sorry about that. We agree with you. Newer videos are briefer (except for our long-form reviews).