Ahahha np, there's a secret passage east of stormveil that let's you skip stormveil completely. If you're having an hard time with it you can just get stronger in other areas and then come back and destroy both margit and everything else in the castle
You still get an achievment for killing Margit and Morgott is much harder anyways so by the time you reach him you should go back and fight Margit since he will be easy by then and you can unlock all the boss achievements that way without having to start NG+ on that character.
I never realized it but he says Rykard’s name with such scorn and anger which makes sense considering that Morgott is the one who led the battles against him at Mt Gelmir
Considering how rykard is the only known demi God completely against the erdtree (not counting ranni as she does her stuff in secret) no wonders that the protector of the tree would hate him lol
I just want to mention how great is Morgott monologue and voice acting here... He is soooo done with you all....always meddling and scheming against him ( in his view ).. he is absolutely furious, its like he will unleash his frustration for all of them upon you. I kinda feel a bit sympathetic to him... its like.. "idiots, just stop, you cant even enter the goddamned tree and you still try and try and try and attack and pillage.. the lot of you assholes.. "
He also believes that no one can enter the Erdtree because the Greater Will has essentially abandoned them. So not only is everyone trying to get in and killing everything in their way to get there, but once they do they won't be able to get inside.
Morgott is actually the last bastion protecting the Erdtree while the other demi-gods just care for their own "foolish ambitions" thus making this mess a LOT messier. If Malenia hadn't fought Radahn, Caelid would not be the hellhole it is right now. If it wasn't for Rykard wanting everyone to be in the Serpent Famalee, he wouldn't have so much bloodshed that would lead his own people against him. If it wasn't for Godrick sewing limbs to himself, Limgrave wouldn't be called by its namesake, "grave for limbs". If Ranni left alone the Rune of Death, then maybe Godwyn who was loved by many would have kept the peace. The only demi-god he didn't mention was his twin Mogh but it isn't his brother's duty to protect the Erdtree; he doesn't have a throne and neither thus Morgott. But he took the task no one would own, to take a throne that would not let him in. His own ambition is to protect what he believes to be the sole sanity in this world has left - even if it meant killing you countless times in the process.
Morgott singlehandedly shows that the Omen can be pure of heart. To put his past behind him, to defend the kingdom which once had him imprisoned. He is the true king of Leyndell.
interesting enough, prior to the greater will. Omen was considered the most graceful blessing, granted by the blessing of the great trea before it became the erdtree
Morgott is such a good character, the only one who stays loyal to his past, and even when he dies, he still tries offering the character his last bit of guidance, the only thing he has left
more than "offering his last guidance" I interpreted it as "this was all pointless you idiot, you can't become elden lord anyway, your dream will be crushed just like mine" which is still sad, since all he wanted was redemption...sure, seeking redemption from the people who cast him to the sewers would be like a jewish person trying to be recognized as a "good jew" by the nazis, but hey, he only wanted his mom's love and was forced to live in the sewers, having nightmares everyday, all of this with his weird pedo brother, the crawling hands, lobsters, revenants etc. The fact that he turned out like this is kind of a miracle
Imagine accidentally never finding the first boss, and then you go to this place. First you wonder "what's the point of two graces in a row with no boss in between?" and then you see the name of the second one and wonder "who the fuck is Margit the Fell Omen?"
I find it so interesting how morgott seems to turn back into a semi-normal human once you defeat him, perhaps showing that most of the omen curse has left him and that he may die with grace.
iirc the great rune probably amplifies whatever features the demigods had. Like how godrick turns into a puny human once you beat him. Idk for sure though
@@shutup11337 godrick looks like that because he is now devoid of all the parts grafted to his body and what you see is all that is left of his original body.
It is also nice to note that some sealed pathways (like in the sewers leading to the three fingers) the inscription reads "Sealed by Morgott the grace given", implying that even as an omen he might have been given grace at some point
For those who haven’t figured it out, Margett and Morgot are the same person, hence why he doesn’t show up in the beginning or later in the outskirts of leyndell
I think it’s interesting that Radahn is the only one that Morgott seems to speak of with a tone other than contempt, like he’s speaking of someone he respects or someone he’s on better terms with.
While Radahn did siege the capital, he’s the only one of the demigods who doesn’t want to completely destroy the golden order and even while at war kept holding the stars back.
@@the_real_tay_loud2072 Yep, Morgott sends clones of himself to hunt down Tarnished as Margit, and keeps his identity as the king of Leyndell secret as he is ashamed of his curse (him being an Omen)
Its weird that if you fought Margit the first time, kill Morgott, Margit will still show up in his second spot even with Morgott dead. How could he use illusion magic if he's dead?
Honestly, i don't think it's an oversight. Think about it, Margit is a fake version of morgott ok, we agree on this. BUT, it's a clone probably summoned by morgott himself so, if morgott is dead, there is no one to summon it. On the other hand, fake margit at leyndell outskirts its a bit different. While it speaks and fights just like stormveil margit, it's summoning is a bit different. Leyndell margit gets summoned from the body of a basic enemy, not from thin air (like stormveil margit) so, what i believe, is that leyndell margit has no need for morgott to be alive as its akin to a pre-installed trap.
Kind of odd how Morgott doesn’t have different voicelines depending on if you’ve seen Margit or not. Makes me think that was actually just a fake version of himself he set up and programmed to automatically pop up to stop anyone trying to become Elden Lord instead of actually projecting himself or actually being there physically.
It is likely since there is precedent of him casting projections of himself to stop anyone from reaching certain spots. What's odd is that one of said projections that appears in the Capital still appears even after you kill Morgott.
@@xXFrItZgErAlDXx I love that guy! I use him for parrying practice. Everytime he runs low on health I run away and reset at the Grace so I can come back and play with him again next time.
He says the same line about laying foolish ambitions to rest. Also, Margit's shackle works on Morgott. I am pretty sure, like 98% sure they are the same person. The fact that Margit does not appear when you kill Morgott first is pretty clear evidence of this along with the similar name, appearance, voice lines and shackle vulnerability.
Does anyone else wish there was an Alter Garments option for the weapons and we could use Morgott's Cursed Sword as the cane/staff instead of his blade? I live for the cursed blood sword, but whapping fools with a stick my man Morgott used to walk around would be awesome too.
@@ihatehandleupdate It does. It goes Cape off = stats get worse and often whatever made the garment look cool in the first place is taken off as well. One of them inexplicably goes from a cool samurai style robe to a skin tight body suit if you take off the cape. It's such a weirdly bad system.
Morgott is not only the last king, he’s the last honorable demigod. Even the great hero Radahn is no more than a thrashing corpse by the time we see him
As much as he is, he still keeps the stars at bay in that state. It's debatable whether that's a good thing but it's something Morgott definitely liked.
@@santiagogallego8695 considering she got godwyn killed she is not really honourable at all Like she could have gone for a demigod that no one cared about like godrick and the impact would have been much smaller cuz his death isn't worth the shattering
I have tried it now, i can say that if you kill morgott before margit in a clear account it gives both margit, the fell omen achievement and shardbearer morgott achievement.
I can only imagine what it was like for the few players who just went around Margit and continued the game normally, who then stumbled upon the second Margit disguised as a noble, walking into Margots boss room and watching him walk down the stairs. Those very few people probably have PTSD from him.
@@taaseenrahman8000 Yea, tmk theres no event that stops that Noble from spawning in the same field in the Capitals Outskirts except igniting the tree and advancing the Capitals state I think. I just choose to see it as Margit can be directly controlled by Morgott but can also be left behind and idle like a trap or sentry to check in on randomly.
Would have preferred getting the final talisman pouch through this fight instead of Godfrey's spirit. Would have made more sense considering we get our first pouch from the Margit fight.
I like how the Omen twins have this one thing in common.... you end up fighting the fricks twice because the first time they ran off like it didn't count.
@@spikespiegel6178 nah, there's fog walls that remain until you investigate the erdtree entrance and then rest at the grace. Source, this is what I did, then left on a merry adventure only to return sometime later to find Margotts body, I was able to talk to it and get the dialogue though, poor dude had been laying there for hours. Lol
@@burstpanther6352 yeah I did that part but didn't know there was morgott's body there. You can say I pulled a marika on him 😂, like how she was also ignored by her and his existence was hidden as a cursed one. When I can back the dude had already degraded in his father's hands.
That’s because that illusion was made by morgott, not mogh. That’s why when you kill that fake mogh, he dies in a yellow light meaning it’s grace magic
The song for the Mohg the omen fight is called Omen Illusion, so different scenario than Morgott disguising himself under a slightly different name. And check out the soundtrack it's wonderful
Morgott drops a talisman pouch even if you got one from margit. They double up on it to make sure players fill the four slots. That kinda confused me because it always said morgott drops a pouch so I was excited to have five, only to learn none show up anymore after you get all 4
i find him perfect visually, he is not a glorious general or a profigy swordwoman, he is a demigod but also a prisioner, he could have been the heir to godfrey, but he just wants to defend the tree, he didnt bother to get some regal attire, no, he used his rags to conceil that he was morgot the veiled monarch, and took the defense of the capital in his own hands,
@@totzirger5125 and the best thing its that he got thrown in the sewers the moment he was born, so he learnt to fight for himself, other demigods like malemia and radhan learnt their styles from legendary mentors, but morgott just made his own fighting style All hail morgot the underdog king!
@@Necrotaku999 he has one of the most unique move sets I've seen in a fromsoft boss. When his staff breaks apart and we see the black "sword", it looks otherworldly. Can't wait to fight him again.
Fun fact: Margit won't appear in Stormveil if he's killed in Leyndell first; however, Margit still appears outside of Leyndell. This is likely an oversight.
You can skip any of the the 3 Great Rune bosses because you only need 2 Great Runes, so you could a 100% avoid Margit and Godrick, you don’t even nees to enter the castle.
Okay but can we all appreciate that moment at 2:10? I know for a fact that if this was me playing I would have seen that phantom and know in my head "fuck this guy is fighting him too in the exact same spot" and that gives me fucking hype to kick this dudes ass
It does sometimes look cool, I've had times a ghost would do the exact thing I was doing and it looks so cool. But man they always scare me in dungeons.
I had this moment where I stupidly tried to block a boss attack because it had way to long windup and I rolled to early. I got guard broken and was stuck in the animation next to a phantom doing the same animation.i rolled imidiatly afterwards to dodge the next attack while my phantom bro got hit again. Felt like I just saw another dimension XD like a dark parallel universe and I'm in the version where luck is on my side. Felt a bit bad for the guy but he might have just failed his roll 🤣.
I always feel so chummy when I find a phantom doing something alongside me. It almost makes me feel like we're there together sometimes, working hand in hand for the betterment of all.
They made a game where you're free to do whatever you please. That's why what is shown in this video is even possible in the first place. You experiment your experience in which ever way you deem fit . I think that's the real beauty of this game. You are 99% free to play it your way!
So I’m curious, on my first run I’m pretty sure his cane smoldered with embers before he broke it but sometimes I see it just breaking, did I just imagine it or is there a reason for it?
NOPE, it actually had flames in it in the first patch ever. For some reason they disappeared after the second patch or something. Idk why. Maybe it was a mistake (which still hasn't been fixed)
@@xeno_adastra Oh my god thanks, I was starting to think I had just imagined it. The wood encasing the sword used to burn but now Morgott just crushes it slightly and it just falls away like leaves. How come it didn’t break like that the hundred times it broke my skull in?
@@Vesterpester yup, i really don't know why it hasn't been fixed yet. It's clearly a bug as there is no way that the fire coming out of it wasn't intended
Out of all the bosses Morgott was probably my favorite, lore and boss fight. He was shunned for having the omen curse and yet he still protected Leyndell from the other bosses
morgott is the longest living boss from when you first fight him to when he dies (rennala doesnt count since she never dies) morgott doesnt die until godfrey, so the 1st boss of the game doesnt die until the 2nd to last boss
Cuz you're much better at the game by the time you reach him. It was the same for me, I practiced fighting margit cuz this was my first fromsoftware game. But I beat morgott on my second try
@@9_debolati_318 Me too, my first play through I decided I was going to just keep fighting Margit until I could beat him, no summons, because it would make me better at the game. I'm still not good at the game but beating Margit like that made me at least passable
It’s awesome that they had the foresight to not have to fight Margit if you kill Morgott. I know it seems like an obvious and easy thing to program but not a lot of developers these days would have taken that into account and would still have you fight the same character even though you already killed him later on.
I really really enjoy the mix of Morgott's voice and the way he speaks, his ancient version of English takes me back to Demon's Souls and the way that blind girl spoke to us, and it's awesome the way he puts his words
Also if you didn't beat that "ambush" Morgott outside the Leyndell gates before defeating Morgott, you can go to that area after and fight him there too
And you can beat 'subterranean shunning grounds' Mohg after defeating Morgott, even though it's popularly theorized that it was an illusion cast by Morgott since its his seal that prevents you from getting to the two-fingers, so maybe he was somehow able to cast the illusions to stay put as a last-ditch defence even if something were to happen to him.
2:56 *Morgott absolutely demolished the Throne* “The Throne, stained by my curse!” Sorry man, I think you’ve got a slightly bigger issue than a stain on your hands.
Strange. It implies that Margit in the Castle is an illusion of Morgott. But I killed Morgott and then encountered his illusion on the battlefield in front of Lyndell (he drops +1 stamina talisman).
Nice detail, I thought he would appear anyways. Btw, doing this would make miss Margit trophy, right? Edit: I am asking out of curiosity, I like Margit fight so I would never skip it.
This might not be right but His mother was Ranalla of the moon , so his birth was betrayal to Marika the ruler of the lands between. So her sons (morgott , Godrick ect ect) would have seen radahn as a traitor
He fight to take a Great Rune like others DemiGod. To Morgott, he loves his Family, especially his Mom/Dad so those people who cause the war happen and join that war (which mean every others DemiGod) go again the peace Godfrey/Marika make and or simply aim for the throne like all Tarnished.
its not explained most of the Demigods reasons for war, but its implied that each of them fought for their own "ambitions", even Morgott himself at some point tried to enter the Erdtree. Rykard and Godrick are the only ones with some light on their motives
@@Lucas-st1xq If anything Rykard, Godrick and Mohg are the most ambitious of the bunch. I mean Rykard literally committed blashphemy, Godrick fully committed into grafting to gain power and Mohg was attempting to establish an entire dynasty with another outer god.
Molto figo, sapevo del passaggio segreto per skippare Stromveil ma non avevo collegato si potesse usare per uccidere Morgott direttamente a Leyndell. Bello vedere come in un gioco così aperto anche le possibilità più improbabili siano state prese in considerazione.
Props to you for managing to stay without a talisman pouch for so long, personally, just this inconvenience would stop me from trying to do what you've done in the video.
I got a question, I have fought Margit/Morgot and fought him once more in the war area, before entering to the capital, has anybody fought him there before?
Now that's a bug. The only way to get to crumbling Farum Azula without defeating the giant is through wrong warp abuse. So not a secret like Margit not appearing if you beat Morgott, just a speedrunning glitch.
@@TheTotoyesyes I remember finding a chest i believe that teleported me to Farum Azula around mid game. Idk if it was a chest but I do vividly remember getting teleported there from something in game, no glitch or anything.
@@TheTotoyesyes Ahh true true. Now that i think about it I believe I just died and was sent back to a grace instead of having to find another grace to leave the teleport trap.
Interesting. I was convinced that Morgott was Margit, until I found that Margit will still spawn on the battlefield, in the capital outskirts, after Morgott is defeated. He is disguised as a regular stormveil commoner (like Gostoc) and transforms when you approach. Now seeing this, Im completely confused again. 😅
My theory is that Margit is an illusion created by Morgott in that precise moment you reach Stormveil (there is no gostoc look alike where he spawns so I guess is a different kind of summoning) while leyndell's Margit is like a trap always placed there and independent from Morgott (just like Mohg's illusion)
I'm glad they did think of this I was kind of disappointed when i tried killing Gurraq in his temple only to find out he was still there in Farum Azula Maybe the one in the temple was a projection or something but its very weird since he loses controll like a real beast when advancing the quest, either its a very perfect projection or idk but it wouldve been cool if you could have skipped it if you managed to kill him
@@irvingsussler5392incorrect. The black knife assassins stole pieces of Destined Death from Maliketh. It’s why Gurraq, who is Maliketh, wants deathroot to recover what was stolen from him. Gurraq still being there after you kill Maliketh could have something to do with the time altering stuff going on in Farum Azula, or it could simply be so that you don’t lock yourself out of his quest line if you progress too far
Yes, i would say it's especially good early game. In endgame if you don't have a real weapon (not the claws i have in the video which are almost useless) you'll have an hard time being a pure caster as all dragon spells are slow af.
Fun Fact: even if you have killed Margit and Morgott, Margit will still appear in the battlefield at Leyndell southwest of Outerwall Battleground site of grace
The detail is nice, but your build seems better. Seems to have a lot of adaptations for different situations! Could you share your stats? I wanted to start a new run and that seems a fun character to make
Yeah it has pretty much every status you would hope to have ahaha. Sadly, this build suffers against late game bosses (they Don't give you any openings to use breaths and the claws, if the enemy is immune to bleed, deal really little damage. The build is mainly a faith/arcane one with the dragon communion sigil and the crow claws (? Idk what's the English name of those). Stats are at lv150 40 54 10 9 14 14 43 65 Idk how this build does in PVP, never tried it.
@@xeno_adastra credo che possiamo anche parlarci direttamente in italiano, considerando i sottotitoli nel video ahahah Grazie mille, non preoccuparti per la questione PvP! Volevo solo godermi nuovamente il gioco in PvE con una build diversa :')
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Fun fact: Margit isn't in his arena because he's attending Morgott's funeral.
Exactly! He's in the casket.
Lmao. Made my day
Fun fact: Margit is a girls name🤣
Margit is morgot
@@thepeacefulsniper724 not the sharpest tool huh
can't imagine Radahn fitting into that chair
He'll fit into it much like he fits on his horse; using gravity magic.
@@DM-cq9ep I'd love to get insight to their writing process. Him, Blooming rot, two and three fingers are just next level.
He wasn’t always that big
Radahn is actually just a horse and the giant thing is really just his spirit ash of a warrior giant from the land of giants. 🤣
maybe he has ultraman power and can make himself big
POV: You have trouble beating Margit so you avoided him by beating Morgott. LOL
i was freaking out for a second because I thought i blacked out and left this comment Edit: they changed their pfp so now I look crazy
@@yeehawtaw2134 kek
@@yeehawtaw2134 😅
@@yeehawtaw2134 lol
because you can freeze Morgott AI but not Margit
Thanks for showing us this secret. I was having such a hard time with Margit, now I can skip the boss.
Ahahha np, there's a secret passage east of stormveil that let's you skip stormveil completely.
If you're having an hard time with it you can just get stronger in other areas and then come back and destroy both margit and everything else in the castle
@@xeno_adastra yeah I know about the secret passage, it was a big brain moment for me when I found the passage.
You still get an achievment for killing Margit and Morgott is much harder anyways so by the time you reach him you should go back and fight Margit since he will be easy by then and you can unlock all the boss achievements that way without having to start NG+ on that character.
@@megoodatgame8535It was a joke dude, Morgott is essentially just Margit but harder.
Bruh so you want to kill Morgott who is way stronger and actually later in the game only to not have to fight margit
I never realized it but he says Rykard’s name with such scorn and anger which makes sense considering that Morgott is the one who led the battles against him at Mt Gelmir
Considering how rykard is the only known demi God completely against the erdtree (not counting ranni as she does her stuff in secret) no wonders that the protector of the tree would hate him lol
I think everyone hates Rykard, he’s a dick
he did
@@noahhughes2674 sup Noah
@@noahprice5014 yo wassup
I just want to mention how great is Morgott monologue and voice acting here...
He is soooo done with you all....always meddling and scheming against him ( in his view ).. he is absolutely furious, its like he will unleash his frustration for all of them upon you.
I kinda feel a bit sympathetic to him... its like.. "idiots, just stop, you cant even enter the goddamned tree and you still try and try and try and attack and pillage.. the lot of you assholes.. "
Have it writ upon thy meager grave.... Felled by King Morgott, Last of all kings.
*chills*
He also believes that no one can enter the Erdtree because the Greater Will has essentially abandoned them. So not only is everyone trying to get in and killing everything in their way to get there, but once they do they won't be able to get inside.
@@xeno_adastra Coldest line ever uttered by a Fromsoft boss without question
Morgott is actually the last bastion protecting the Erdtree while the other demi-gods just care for their own "foolish ambitions" thus making this mess a LOT messier. If Malenia hadn't fought Radahn, Caelid would not be the hellhole it is right now. If it wasn't for Rykard wanting everyone to be in the Serpent Famalee, he wouldn't have so much bloodshed that would lead his own people against him. If it wasn't for Godrick sewing limbs to himself, Limgrave wouldn't be called by its namesake, "grave for limbs". If Ranni left alone the Rune of Death, then maybe Godwyn who was loved by many would have kept the peace. The only demi-god he didn't mention was his twin Mogh but it isn't his brother's duty to protect the Erdtree; he doesn't have a throne and neither thus Morgott. But he took the task no one would own, to take a throne that would not let him in. His own ambition is to protect what he believes to be the sole sanity in this world has left - even if it meant killing you countless times in the process.
Noooo why would you skip such a great dungeon
Interestingly enough, morgott dropped a talisman slot because margit would’ve
Actually margit's talisman slot can be bought after this fight (read description)
@@xeno_adastra didn’t realize that, that’s cool!
@@xeno_adastra Didn't you get a Talisman Slot to drop in the Morgott Fight? it was the 3rd received item.
@@zeldrow1 Endgame you have four talisman slots, 2 initial ones plus 1 from margit and 1 from morgott
@@strangeatlas835 initially you only have 1 slot... the second is from margit
Morgott singlehandedly shows that the Omen can be pure of heart. To put his past behind him, to defend the kingdom which once had him imprisoned. He is the true king of Leyndell.
Mah man’s loyalty is more stronger than my will to live bruh. Respect
hes buck broken
Honestly that kingdom isn’t worth defending. It’s beautiful but the residents are a bunch of assholes who keep trying to kill me.
interesting enough, prior to the greater will. Omen was considered the most graceful blessing, granted by the blessing of the great trea before it became the erdtree
Defending a shitty, rotting, horrible, ineffective, and dying kingdom isn't honorable at all. It's pathetic.
That means you got gott before git got got
nice
git git git git
gott gott gott gott
Blood rush to my
head lit hot lock
@@specialknees6798 Poppin off the
Fuckin block knot
Git got got so gott got gud but you still got gott
Indeed
Morgott is such a good character, the only one who stays loyal to his past, and even when he dies, he still tries offering the character his last bit of guidance, the only thing he has left
oof that hit hard
more than "offering his last guidance" I interpreted it as "this was all pointless you idiot, you can't become elden lord anyway, your dream will be crushed just like mine" which is still sad, since all he wanted was redemption...sure, seeking redemption from the people who cast him to the sewers would be like a jewish person trying to be recognized as a "good jew" by the nazis, but hey, he only wanted his mom's love and was forced to live in the sewers, having nightmares everyday, all of this with his weird pedo brother, the crawling hands, lobsters, revenants etc.
The fact that he turned out like this is kind of a miracle
Telling him the tree was closed was not guidance lol
Don't cry....none of them are actually dead....tarnished's weapons are not embued with the destined death so no one is truly dead
“Damn…..you still fucken suck…. Maidenleeeeessss”
Refuses to elaborate
Dies
Imagine accidentally never finding the first boss, and then you go to this place. First you wonder "what's the point of two graces in a row with no boss in between?" and then you see the name of the second one and wonder "who the fuck is Margit the Fell Omen?"
its funny because it is actually pretty easy to do just that.
@@ezraho8449 wtf easy skip the castle?? yes for a moron
This is literally exactly what happened to me
@@gulliblepiggy4346 not falling for it, gullible piggy
Happened to me. Only learned that I skipped margit way after i beat morgott
I find it so interesting how morgott seems to turn back into a semi-normal human once you defeat him, perhaps showing that most of the omen curse has left him and that he may die with grace.
iirc the great rune probably amplifies whatever features the demigods had. Like how godrick turns into a puny human once you beat him. Idk for sure though
@@shutup11337 never heard of that in the game iirc, but it surely does make a lot of sense!
@@shutup11337 godrick looks like that because he is now devoid of all the parts grafted to his body and what you see is all that is left of his original body.
It is also nice to note that some sealed pathways (like in the sewers leading to the three fingers) the inscription reads "Sealed by Morgott the grace given", implying that even as an omen he might have been given grace at some point
@@fyctssss Well, not only that, he is referred as the Grace-given lord multiple times in the game, both in descriptions and by Gideon
For those who haven’t figured it out, Margett and Morgot are the same person, hence why he doesn’t show up in the beginning or later in the outskirts of leyndell
The disguised NPC in Leyndell was still there after I had defeated Morgott. It was fun to toy with Margit on horseback lol
who is Margett
How did you manage to spell both names wrong
@@dinglebop5700 its quite confusing lol, marget margit morgot, melina , miquella, milena lol the writers had fun with m
@@cryonim Ever noticed how all the main bosses names start with G R and M ?
G.eorge
R.
R.
M.artin
I think it’s interesting that Radahn is the only one that Morgott seems to speak of with a tone other than contempt, like he’s speaking of someone he respects or someone he’s on better terms with.
While Radahn did siege the capital, he’s the only one of the demigods who doesn’t want to completely destroy the golden order and even while at war kept holding the stars back.
Just making shit up bro
@Avery Lockland I think he just doesn't know what his bro's up to.
I kinda heard contempt in his voice with Radahn, but like a cold polite kind. someone he doesn't like but grudgingly respects.
@@averylockland3025 nope he definitely hates mohg. Morgott despises anything and everything outside the golden order
just in case someone still doesn’t want to admit that they’re the same person 😅
Are they!? I’m confused
@@the_real_tay_loud2072 Yep, Morgott sends clones of himself to hunt down Tarnished as Margit, and keeps his identity as the king of Leyndell secret as he is ashamed of his curse (him being an Omen)
Its weird that if you fought Margit the first time, kill Morgott, Margit will still show up in his second spot even with Morgott dead. How could he use illusion magic if he's dead?
@@dunsinane88 it feels like an oversight on the devs part to me more than anything
Honestly, i don't think it's an oversight.
Think about it, Margit is a fake version of morgott ok, we agree on this. BUT, it's a clone probably summoned by morgott himself so, if morgott is dead, there is no one to summon it.
On the other hand, fake margit at leyndell outskirts its a bit different. While it speaks and fights just like stormveil margit, it's summoning is a bit different. Leyndell margit gets summoned from the body of a basic enemy, not from thin air (like stormveil margit) so, what i believe, is that leyndell margit has no need for morgott to be alive as its akin to a pre-installed trap.
Kind of odd how Morgott doesn’t have different voicelines depending on if you’ve seen Margit or not.
Makes me think that was actually just a fake version of himself he set up and programmed to automatically pop up to stop anyone trying to become Elden Lord instead of actually projecting himself or actually being there physically.
It is likely since there is precedent of him casting projections of himself to stop anyone from reaching certain spots.
What's odd is that one of said projections that appears in the Capital still appears even after you kill Morgott.
@@xXFrItZgErAlDXx I was wondering about that. Because I was running and heard that familiar voice just transform out of no where…… yeah, I ran.
@@xXFrItZgErAlDXx I love that guy! I use him for parrying practice. Everytime he runs low on health I run away and reset at the Grace so I can come back and play with him again next time.
@@Vasharan 😶
He says the same line about laying foolish ambitions to rest. Also, Margit's shackle works on Morgott.
I am pretty sure, like 98% sure they are the same person. The fact that Margit does not appear when you kill Morgott first is pretty clear evidence of this along with the similar name, appearance, voice lines and shackle vulnerability.
Does anyone else wish there was an Alter Garments option for the weapons and we could use Morgott's Cursed Sword as the cane/staff instead of his blade? I live for the cursed blood sword, but whapping fools with a stick my man Morgott used to walk around would be awesome too.
people been beaten by that stick enough lol, dying to margit over an over is just an initiation to this game lol.
I wish the whole Alter Garments thing had more more purpose than a Cape on/off button
@@ihatehandleupdate It does. It goes Cape off = stats get worse and often whatever made the garment look cool in the first place is taken off as well. One of them inexplicably goes from a cool samurai style robe to a skin tight body suit if you take off the cape.
It's such a weirdly bad system.
@@reggieisnotadog4841 and a useless one too
reminds me of Bleach the soul reaper boss. Yamamoto. switching his walking staff into his zanpaktou.
Morgott is not only the last king, he’s the last honorable demigod. Even the great hero Radahn is no more than a thrashing corpse by the time we see him
As much as he is, he still keeps the stars at bay in that state. It's debatable whether that's a good thing but it's something Morgott definitely liked.
well ranni is still doing her shenanigans
@@santiagogallego8695 considering she got godwyn killed she is not really honourable at all
Like she could have gone for a demigod that no one cared about like godrick and the impact would have been much smaller cuz his death isn't worth the shattering
I have tried it now, i can say that if you kill morgott before margit in a clear account it gives both margit, the fell omen achievement and shardbearer morgott achievement.
I didn't even realize Morgott was laying on the ground after you defeat him
same man, i was too filled with anger after killing him because he was difficult to fight
@@exursix good
Killed him the first try but for some reason smaller/minor bosses gave me a more difficult time tbh!!
I can only imagine what it was like for the few players who just went around Margit and continued the game normally, who then stumbled upon the second Margit disguised as a noble, walking into Margots boss room and watching him walk down the stairs. Those very few people probably have PTSD from him.
And you have to fight a shade of him in the Gaol
After beating Morgott, I came across him disguised as a noble for some reason
@@taaseenrahman8000 Yea, tmk theres no event that stops that Noble from spawning in the same field in the Capitals Outskirts except igniting the tree and advancing the Capitals state I think. I just choose to see it as Margit can be directly controlled by Morgott but can also be left behind and idle like a trap or sentry to check in on randomly.
That last dialogue with Melina felt like taping automatic words on the phone while texting 😂😂
Would have preferred getting the final talisman pouch through this fight instead of Godfrey's spirit. Would have made more sense considering we get our first pouch from the Margit fight.
How would he give it to you if he already gave it to you. He's the same person lol
@@manuelmenendez8239 He could have two
That was very nice cinematic timing how you hit him with Scarlet Rot to trigger his second phase, which makes him double over and start coughing
Hell yea that looked perfect, scripted, in a good way!
I like how the Omen twins have this one thing in common.... you end up fighting the fricks twice because the first time they ran off like it didn't count.
Wait, you fight Mohg twice? I only remember fighting him with Miquelle's cocoon in the back
@@kruton93 The second Mohg is in the undergrounds of leyndell if that helps
Thrice if you count the Fell Twins outside East Altus Divine Tower.
@@HoujinShimanagashi96 aren't those just 2 random omens? rushing past the first bit of the sewers make for a more epic gank fight lol
I didn’t know you could talk to him after fight, I pretty much abandoned him.
You have to, theres fogwalls preventing you from leaving unless you do. No traveling either
@@spikespiegel6178 nah, there's fog walls that remain until you investigate the erdtree entrance and then rest at the grace.
Source, this is what I did, then left on a merry adventure only to return sometime later to find Margotts body, I was able to talk to it and get the dialogue though, poor dude had been laying there for hours. Lol
@@burstpanther6352 yeah I did that part but didn't know there was morgott's body there. You can say I pulled a marika on him 😂, like how she was also ignored by her and his existence was hidden as a cursed one. When I can back the dude had already degraded in his father's hands.
@@burstpanther6352 Ah I was probably thinking of resting at the grace then my bad
It weird how you can kill Margott and Margit dies to, but if you kill Mohg the lord of blood you still have to fight Mohg the Omen and vice versa.
That’s because that illusion was made by morgott, not mogh. That’s why when you kill that fake mogh, he dies in a yellow light meaning it’s grace magic
@@lewispooper3138 Then why does Mohg the omen remain after you kill Morgott?
The song for the Mohg the omen fight is called Omen Illusion, so different scenario than Morgott disguising himself under a slightly different name. And check out the soundtrack it's wonderful
@@goofyahdemoman1134there brothers
I love how morgott was like "I didn't get a chance to give you this talisman pouch earlier, so I've just held on to it since"
Morgott drops a talisman pouch even if you got one from margit. They double up on it to make sure players fill the four slots. That kinda confused me because it always said morgott drops a pouch so I was excited to have five, only to learn none show up anymore after you get all 4
I'll be honest, Margit/Morgott was underwhelming visually, but this voice actor absolutely nailed it. His performance made this character.
i find him perfect visually, he is not a glorious general or a profigy swordwoman, he is a demigod but also a prisioner, he could have been the heir to godfrey, but he just wants to defend the tree, he didnt bother to get some regal attire, no, he used his rags to conceil that he was morgot the veiled monarch, and took the defense of the capital in his own hands,
@@Necrotaku999 he definitely looks like a prisoner/hermit, but he fights like a king, that's for sure
@@totzirger5125 and the best thing its that he got thrown in the sewers the moment he was born, so he learnt to fight for himself, other demigods like malemia and radhan learnt their styles from legendary mentors, but morgott just made his own fighting style
All hail morgot the underdog king!
@@Necrotaku999 he has one of the most unique move sets I've seen in a fromsoft boss. When his staff breaks apart and we see the black "sword", it looks otherworldly. Can't wait to fight him again.
@@Necrotaku999 gigachad king Morgott
I love the combat music in Limgrave, those first few days of playing were magical
It's crazy how he calls us graceless when HE'S GRACELESS TOO
He was actually given grace, hence the name “Morgott, The grace given”
@@Aetoetta oh 🥲 but he was like us once upon a time. Bro has no empathy.
He actually became Godfrey's grace in the 2nd to final fight, you can see a trail flowing towards you
Fun fact: Margit won't appear in Stormveil if he's killed in Leyndell first; however, Margit still appears outside of Leyndell. This is likely an oversight.
That Margit is some other dude i think
I didn't even know it was possible to fight him before his less powerful counterpart.
You can skip any of the the 3 Great Rune bosses because you only need 2 Great Runes, so you could a 100% avoid Margit and Godrick, you don’t even nees to enter the castle.
@@Ms666slayer how???
@@CarltonPiedra trought the Road of read finger, that way is not a dead end, you can skipp the casttle from there
@@javierguerrero7997 just saw it 5 minutes ago but thanks amyway :3
@@javierguerrero7997 i had a seizure trying to read that
Okay but can we all appreciate that moment at 2:10? I know for a fact that if this was me playing I would have seen that phantom and know in my head "fuck this guy is fighting him too in the exact same spot" and that gives me fucking hype to kick this dudes ass
It does sometimes look cool, I've had times a ghost would do the exact thing I was doing and it looks so cool. But man they always scare me in dungeons.
I had no idea phantoms were live
@@ky015 they are not exactly 'live' but I'd say within the last 10 minutes which is close enough for me to still be pretty cool
I had this moment where I stupidly tried to block a boss attack because it had way to long windup and I rolled to early. I got guard broken and was stuck in the animation next to a phantom doing the same animation.i rolled imidiatly afterwards to dodge the next attack while my phantom bro got hit again. Felt like I just saw another dimension XD like a dark parallel universe and I'm in the version where luck is on my side. Felt a bit bad for the guy but he might have just failed his roll 🤣.
I always feel so chummy when I find a phantom doing something alongside me. It almost makes me feel like we're there together sometimes, working hand in hand for the betterment of all.
From Soft be looking at you like, “Wait, you can’t do that.” lol
Jokes on them I can do anything I want with their baby
@@xeno_adastra Can I do whatever I want with you baby? Ha ha.
They made a game where you're free to do whatever you please. That's why what is shown in this video is even possible in the first place. You experiment your experience in which ever way you deem fit . I think that's the real beauty of this game. You are 99% free to play it your way!
@@nicolauquintao2428 It was a joke, but ok pal… 👍🏼
his field boss version still appears for some reason
It's an illusion
So I’m curious, on my first run I’m pretty sure his cane smoldered with embers before he broke it but sometimes I see it just breaking, did I just imagine it or is there a reason for it?
NOPE, it actually had flames in it in the first patch ever. For some reason they disappeared after the second patch or something.
Idk why. Maybe it was a mistake (which still hasn't been fixed)
@@xeno_adastra Oh my god thanks, I was starting to think I had just imagined it.
The wood encasing the sword used to burn but now Morgott just crushes it slightly and it just falls away like leaves.
How come it didn’t break like that the hundred times it broke my skull in?
Same actually
@@xeno_adastra that’s weird. Even the smoke is gone
@@Vesterpester yup, i really don't know why it hasn't been fixed yet.
It's clearly a bug as there is no way that the fire coming out of it wasn't intended
Morgott should of said:
"Taste the rainbow, idiot"
Whenever he cracked his staff, revealing that very nice looking blade
the MLG blade
The sword is pretty colorful. Almost like oil mixed with wate-oh wait.
@@Murlakmans got Damascus
Interestingly enough, the field boss version of him will still show up. I'm assuming that one was an illusion of sorts.
It’s a possession of sorts. After I killed that one it simply turned back into a regular prisoner with a dagger.
Morgott is seriously underrated. I felt bad defeating him tbh
Especially seeing as how later you find Godfrey, his father, cradling his corpse.
Out of all the bosses Morgott was probably my favorite, lore and boss fight. He was shunned for having the omen curse and yet he still protected Leyndell from the other bosses
three playthroughs in and i never noticed you could talk to him after the fight lmao
Lmao, he just keeps talking shit, nothing too important
I noticed him while doing emotes lmao
Apparently a bunch of bosses leave a body behind which I never noticed. Like godrick
morgott is the longest living boss from when you first fight him to when he dies (rennala doesnt count since she never dies) morgott doesnt die until godfrey, so the 1st boss of the game doesnt die until the 2nd to last boss
Took me 30 tries to beat Margit.
Beat Morgott on the first try. 😄
Same! Funny how this stuff works out.
Cuz you're much better at the game by the time you reach him. It was the same for me, I practiced fighting margit cuz this was my first fromsoftware game. But I beat morgott on my second try
@@9_debolati_318 Me too, my first play through I decided I was going to just keep fighting Margit until I could beat him, no summons, because it would make me better at the game. I'm still not good at the game but beating Margit like that made me at least passable
lmao, same
Overleveled/underleveled. Or just got gud. Or had a much better build whether by accident or on purpose.
Weird how this happens with morgott and margit but not with mogh lord of blood and mohg in the sewers.
He’s always so upset about the flame of ambition.
Its the audacity or gall, if you will. You disgusting Tarnished not knowing your place. Eewwww
It’s awesome that they had the foresight to not have to fight Margit if you kill Morgott. I know it seems like an obvious and easy thing to program but not a lot of developers these days would have taken that into account and would still have you fight the same character even though you already killed him later on.
Funny how that doesn't happen with his twin🤔
Makes sense they would because they literally built a secret path that bypasses Stormveil
how though?
how do people skip margit and go to morgott? i thought the only way to progress towards is to go through stormveil castle
@@Excalibur01 oh
wheres the secret path?
@@exursix Search videos on finding the path that bypasses the castle
Your character looks really dope. Props for not falling in the trap and making an atrocity of nature, but actually making a character that looks good
Thanks I really appreciate it
I really really enjoy the mix of Morgott's voice and the way he speaks, his ancient version of English takes me back to Demon's Souls and the way that blind girl spoke to us, and it's awesome the way he puts his words
Morgott about every demigod: “traitors, all of them!”
Morgott about Mogh:
well its funny because it seems mogh and him are in good terms considering
you can find the fake mohg protecting the entrance to the flame of frenzy.
It **is** his brother, after all.
@@hellborne7995 they're all his siblings
Margit just walked away and quit. 😂
weirdly enough you can still fight the second margit outside of leyndell after killing morgott
Thank you I’ve been looking for a video like this for so long
Also if you didn't beat that "ambush" Morgott outside the Leyndell gates before defeating Morgott, you can go to that area after and fight him there too
And you can beat 'subterranean shunning grounds' Mohg after defeating Morgott, even though it's popularly theorized that it was an illusion cast by Morgott since its his seal that prevents you from getting to the two-fingers, so maybe he was somehow able to cast the illusions to stay put as a last-ditch defence even if something were to happen to him.
The rotten breath is so op in early to mid game,only breath it twice then just run around til the hp runs out
It's still pretty good in late game just that Elden Beast is immune to it (along with every other status).
The fact that they thought of this possibility while making the game is pretty cool
2:56 *Morgott absolutely demolished the Throne*
“The Throne, stained by my curse!”
Sorry man, I think you’ve got a slightly bigger issue than a stain on your hands.
Strange. It implies that Margit in the Castle is an illusion of Morgott. But I killed Morgott and then encountered his illusion on the battlefield in front of Lyndell (he drops +1 stamina talisman).
Great build. Well played
I had no idea his body would stay there after defeating him
It's like margit never even existed to begin with.
Looks like he left you with grace.
Huh! I guess that confirms that they are the same person.
I did that on accident one time, got excited and then immediately bummed out
You havent’t played Elden Ring until you experienced it in original Italian. ❤
But like.... Morgott is more difficult than Margit lol
Nice detail, I thought he would appear anyways. Btw, doing this would make miss Margit trophy, right?
Edit: I am asking out of curiosity, I like Margit fight so I would never skip it.
Oh, good question. I would assume that yeah, you'll lose it until ng+ or if you make another character
Yeah but on your first playthrough you are almost guaranteed to not skip over Margit anyways so I doubt this has happened often if at all
what kinda maniac would even skip this trophy unless they go for a speedrun
I asked this out of curiosity, I will always fight Margit since I like fighting him
Yeah but why would you skip margit and go straight to leyndell?
When Margit is too strong to beat so you beat Morgott to skip it:
I be wondering how tf some of them be even fitting in these chairs man
Morgot will always be a super fun boss
I saw the title and jitter clicked the video, I need to know
Probably one of if the the most bad ass boss intros in any souls game ever.
Curious as to how Radahn was a traitor
I think Morgott considers anyone who fought in the war as a traitor to peace before the shattering happened.
This might not be right but His mother was Ranalla of the moon , so his birth was betrayal to Marika the ruler of the lands between. So her sons (morgott , Godrick ect ect) would have seen radahn as a traitor
He fight to take a Great Rune like others DemiGod. To Morgott, he loves his Family, especially his Mom/Dad so those people who cause the war happen and join that war (which mean every others DemiGod) go again the peace Godfrey/Marika make and or simply aim for the throne like all Tarnished.
its not explained most of the Demigods reasons for war, but its implied that each of them fought for their own "ambitions", even Morgott himself at some point tried to enter the Erdtree. Rykard and Godrick are the only ones with some light on their motives
@@Lucas-st1xq If anything Rykard, Godrick and Mohg are the most ambitious of the bunch. I mean Rykard literally committed blashphemy, Godrick fully committed into grafting to gain power and Mohg was attempting to establish an entire dynasty with another outer god.
Molto figo, sapevo del passaggio segreto per skippare Stromveil ma non avevo collegato si potesse usare per uccidere Morgott direttamente a Leyndell. Bello vedere come in un gioco così aperto anche le possibilità più improbabili siano state prese in considerazione.
I love Morgott's dialogue in the cutscene
Props to you for managing to stay without a talisman pouch for so long, personally, just this inconvenience would stop me from trying to do what you've done in the video.
Morgott was defeated on my first attempt.
I put it like that, because I died 4 seconds before my mimic tear finished the job 😅
it's weird how margit isnt at stormveil castle after morgott. but I fought margit/morgott in atlas plateau after I beat morgott
Morgott is Margit so if one does then the other does to. Also the one in the capital outskirts is a illusion or spell.
love at 1:25 when he whips out the gas station rainbow blade shiz
I got a question, I have fought Margit/Morgot and fought him once more in the war area, before entering to the capital, has anybody fought him there before?
He would have been such a amazing fight if I wasn't over leveled but I put off Leyendell untill I was around 100-110
Yeah took me like 2 tries, I was around level 128 and was goofing off trying to use slow ass dragon incantations the first time lol.
@@jamessummers5936 lmao altho those slow ass dragon incantations saved my ass in my first fight with malakith
Same if you skip the fire giant and go straight to the crumbling lands you can bypass him all together
Now that's a bug. The only way to get to crumbling Farum Azula without defeating the giant is through wrong warp abuse. So not a secret like Margit not appearing if you beat Morgott, just a speedrunning glitch.
@@TheTotoyesyes I remember finding a chest i believe that teleported me to Farum Azula around mid game. Idk if it was a chest but I do vividly remember getting teleported there from something in game, no glitch or anything.
@@MattyIceBJJ i'ts a tease, the TP leads to a closed area to show us Farum in advance. You can't reach the rest lf the area from there
@@TheTotoyesyes Ahh true true. Now that i think about it I believe I just died and was sent back to a grace instead of having to find another grace to leave the teleport trap.
But for some reason he was in the battlefield outside of the capital possessing some random Commoner even after you defeat morgott
If this is your first run even if i don't thinks so, your build makes you a man of culture ;)
I think this was my fourth character so no, definitely not the first run ahah
Interesting. I was convinced that Morgott was Margit, until I found that Margit will still spawn on the battlefield, in the capital outskirts, after Morgott is defeated. He is disguised as a regular stormveil commoner (like Gostoc) and transforms when you approach.
Now seeing this, Im completely confused again. 😅
My theory is that Margit is an illusion created by Morgott in that precise moment you reach Stormveil (there is no gostoc look alike where he spawns so I guess is a different kind of summoning) while leyndell's Margit is like a trap always placed there and independent from Morgott (just like Mohg's illusion)
I reckon it's just a dev oversight.
Fromsoft can do great, but they're not perfect and the game was rushed in the late stages.
He is. That was probably an oversight or they just didn't care because he's so easy to never see in that area.
3:05 I would have tried ''Mikiri Counter'' xD
LOL, i just noticed that's exactly the input i used right there
1:22
Margrit after putting these foolish ambitions to rest and unlocking the damascus skin
Damn a year ago. Time flies when you're maidenless.
I like his dialogue when not defeated before more than the one you get normally.. this secret one actually gives us more lore
Pretty sure it's the same dialogue.
What if u start Margit’s fight, leave then go and kill Morgott. What would happen then?
Probably the same thing
I liked that FS had the foresight to know that we could visit Leyndell before Stormveil.
A always thought they were the same guy, and couldn’t die permanently, similar to the player.
Troppo felice che la community italiana stia creando tantissimi contenuti su Elden Ring e stia anche ottenendo dei buoni riscontri!
Anche io!
I'm glad they did think of this
I was kind of disappointed when i tried killing Gurraq in his temple only to find out he was still there in Farum Azula
Maybe the one in the temple was a projection or something but its very weird since he loses controll like a real beast when advancing the quest, either its a very perfect projection or idk but it wouldve been cool if you could have skipped it if you managed to kill him
it's a different beast. Gurraq is still there after you kill the guy in Farum
I just assume that it’s because farum azula has some time warping shenanigans going on
@@nondairyrelic7279 this^
@@irvingsussler5392 wrong
@@irvingsussler5392incorrect. The black knife assassins stole pieces of Destined Death from Maliketh. It’s why Gurraq, who is Maliketh, wants deathroot to recover what was stolen from him. Gurraq still being there after you kill Maliketh could have something to do with the time altering stuff going on in Farum Azula, or it could simply be so that you don’t lock yourself out of his quest line if you progress too far
I like the disdain in his voice when he says rykard if you know the history between them
Nice that the game devs put so much thought into the game
So is faith arcane any good early game?
Arcane raises the chance of blood lost happening only on weapons that have blood buildup so yes but I don't know about faith
Yes, i would say it's especially good early game. In endgame if you don't have a real weapon (not the claws i have in the video which are almost useless) you'll have an hard time being a pure caster as all dragon spells are slow af.
Arcane is insanely powerful for bleed. But this is 11 days ago, so you probably know by now lol. Faith is really good too
Cipher Pata is useful in PVE until midgame.
@@xeno_adastra Holy shit it's the best God damn build possible.
Fun Fact: even if you have killed Margit and Morgott, Margit will still appear in the battlefield at Leyndell southwest of Outerwall Battleground site of grace
The boss fight music had me leaking... and I never cry
He realized thy foolish ambitions cannot easily be put to rest
The detail is nice, but your build seems better. Seems to have a lot of adaptations for different situations! Could you share your stats? I wanted to start a new run and that seems a fun character to make
Yeah it has pretty much every status you would hope to have ahaha.
Sadly, this build suffers against late game bosses (they Don't give you any openings to use breaths and the claws, if the enemy is immune to bleed, deal really little damage.
The build is mainly a faith/arcane one with the dragon communion sigil and the crow claws (? Idk what's the English name of those).
Stats are at lv150
40
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14
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Idk how this build does in PVP, never tried it.
@@xeno_adastra credo che possiamo anche parlarci direttamente in italiano, considerando i sottotitoli nel video ahahah
Grazie mille, non preoccuparti per la questione PvP! Volevo solo godermi nuovamente il gioco in PvE con una build diversa :')
@@matteooliosi7762 ah lol non avevo fatto caso al tuo nome ahahah.
Mi fa piacere che ti sia interessata la build, spero che ti divertirai.