They aren't 'bailing them out' lmao. The expansion fee for a team is outrageous and Smith is getting a deal on a good young team with a zillion assets .
Exactly, but Smyth was so desperate for the team I won't be surprised if he sold his soul to the Devil. "Divine" intervention is the only way I see Bettman give up on his obsession
The Smith group wasn't trying to get the Coyotes. They were working for an expansion team. It was the NHL that went to the Smith group to take the Coyotes.
@@hudsondean2812 People only make the trip to State Farm 8 times a year and most games are on Sundays. For Coyotes games in Glendale, it's 41 games a year and most games are on the weekday. They have to deal with rush hour traffic on the I-10 and it takes almost an hour from Scottsdale, where majority of the fans are located
No one is surprised about them being mad, it’s understandable. But they’re misdirecting their hate to Salt Lake instead of their incompetent management.
Ya gotta love how teams struggle to get sustainable attendance for decades then as rumors of relocation get louder and louder, they say "well why would we go to games the team is shit, the owners shit, the stadium is shit/in the wrong location." Then the team moves and suddenly everyone is a outraged diehard fan who never missed a game and will never have anything at all to do with the sport again!
The opposite is true as well. For 20+ years, it's been nothing but how Arizona sucks, and how the team needs to move, and blah, blah, blah. But the minute they got their wish, it's been nothing but crocodile tears online.
@@666kingdrummerpart of that I think too is fans who are relieved to see the team moved don’t want to be stomping Arizona fans into the dirt about it - I’m a born-and-raised Winnipeger and I was always a bit bitter about the Coyotes pre-2011, (though I wasn’t born early enough to form meaningful relationships with the team) and I bounced between supporting them and despising them as time went on. It is soul crushing to lose a team in any sport, it’s a pillar of the community that people lean on - when it’s gone it’s hard not to feel like you’re hung out to dry. That being said I’ve argued for a move from Arizona for years, and a small part of me is vindicated that the fans get to feel what it felt like here in ‘96. That being said my problem was with ownership mostly and that’s still the case if the Meruellos are involved. The fans didn’t show up to support the team either, and the fact they couldn’t consistently sell out Mullet arena this year (afaik) seems insane to me. Whether it’s a poor location, a bad product, or shit management, the bottom line is the community needs to make it work - so when it can’t you get problems (like we’ve seen here earlier in the year) - difference is our management group is dedicated to and has made plans to ensure financial success and viability - Meruello has not. Ryan Smith on the other hand is eager to prove why Salt Lake deserves a shot, and it’ll be a good hockey market. Once the grieving period is over I think it’s safe to say most fans will admit it’s a net positive for the NHL.
I'm so happy that common sense prevailed and the NHL is getting this team outta there. Maybe one day when the arena/ownership drama settles down the NHL can try again. But today is not that day.
During the Oilers broadcast, the commentators remarked this was the first time where Oilers fans didn't make up at least "70-80" percent of the fans lol
It’s such a weird suggestion because that and the Blizzard concepts are similar to the Avs in name and branding (I.e. Howler) and I don’t think the NHL would want a copycat team right by the original.
The city of Glendale built the Coyotes a NHL arena, and even swallowed several years of team losses. The team which has been in Arizona for nearly 30 years has never turned a continuous profit. Teams that lose their arena lease shouldn't be a team anymore... While a NHL team maybe a sport, the NHL is also a business....
Glendale deserves some blame in that situation. They wanted the arena to be the centerpiece to an entertainment hub but it failed. People in the valley don’t mind driving to Glendale for football because it’s only 8 times a year on Sundays, but 41 times mostly during the work week proved to be too much. And if they do get the arena built near Scottsdale it will be the nail in the coffin for the Glendale arena.
Glendale is too far away from the rest of the Phoenix area. It’s something like at least an hour there and an hour back, depending on traffic, from say Mesa or Chandler. No one wants to constantly do that drive on weeknights.
The City of Glendale is the Sole Blame for the Coyotes moving. The coyotes originally leased it from glendale long term and shared it with the suns. Then, the city made them switch to leases on a yearly basis. The Coyotes wanted to stay there and wanted a multi year lease at the arena. but, the city cut off negotiations and essentially evicted them saying they did so due to an, "increased focus on larger, more impactful events and uses of the city-owner arena." I hope a new arena is opened nearby, perhaps like Scottsdale, and the coyotes become a Browns like situation for the NHL. and I hope that arena and team succeeds so Glendale can have it's complex rot and be abandoned. Oh, and BTW, this is coming from someone who lives in the midwest, born and raised, that's furious about this situation. Glendale screwed over the Coyotes. Plain and simple.
Some fans are pissed. However, there are many who were beyond frustrated with a history of financial struggles. Better they moved on than clinging on to a sub par organization.
Why does Salt Lake suck? You have a reason? Or are you referring to the point Arizona fans didn't think they sucked when when they got someone else's team but now the team is leaving them and where they are going sucks?
I was born and raised in Utah. I love everything Utah sports. This has been one of the best weeks of my life. I appreciate your videos on the NHL/MLB coming to Utah the past few months. I watch most of your videos regardless, but you know I have to tune in every time you talk about Utah. Refreshing to see people talk about my state for once, even if a lot of people are understandably angry at the situation. As for the name, I'd like to see them take the Grizzlies name. The Utah Grizzlies have been the minor league Utah hockey team for a few decades now. It's the team myself and many others grew up with and the brand is just as important to me as the Utah Jazz are. To me it's only fitting to see the team I love be upgraded to major status.
More folks grew up with the Golden Eagles until Larry Miller bought them and PURPOSELY ran them into the ground because they were taking dollars from his precious Jazz. I'm in the Golden Eagles group.
NHL will be back in AZ maybe in 15 years. A hard lesson for Arizona, they took the Coyotes for granted. The community were not vocal about getting things going, very hard to get a team, very easy to lose it.
Forsyth county in Georgia is building a center to attract an NHL team. I think thatll work better as no one in Atlantas really that big into hockey but the affluent suburbs certainly have hockey rinks and teams
I think the Northpoint mall location in Alpharetta is going to win out. That's the Anson Carter group and closer to Buckhead and Sandy Springs as well. Still Fulton Co.
Maybe if the fans supported the Coyotes for the past 28 years like they did last night they wouldn't be moving, I seem to remember about a year ago a vote happening where they voted to keep a toxic land fill instead of cleaning it up for a new arena a financial district
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They filled that arena every single game. The ticket prices were crazy expensive because of demand and the need to make up the money for a smaller arena. Hell, we can get 5000+ every night to see the AHL Milwaukee Admirals. The fans supported them as much as they possibly could.
That wrestling fans says when a wrestler from a rival city says with the added word “dix” you know “Salt Lake City Sucks Dix!” A four corner state rivalry perhaps.😅
Just a few things to add: 1. Salt Lake does have two other pro teams, Real Salt Lake in the MLS and Utah Royals in the NWSL. 2. Per ESPN, it sounded like the NHL was getting tired of the Coyotes twittling their thumbs and dragging plans out, so they essentially told Smith that they would be getting the team if things didn’t develop quickly.
I kinda like Yeti but it becomes redundant with the Kraken already in the league. I could see something like the Utah Diamonds. It couples the skiiing/winter sports industry of the region with the mining history of Utah.
Fans and cities don't steal teams... No one steals teams. I get not cheering for the team in the new city but stfu with this "stealing" teams and fans ripping on cities or fans getting a team. Meruelo is the problem. Him and the history of failure of the franchise in Arizona. It isn't Arizona's fans' fault but it also isn't something to be mad at SLC fans about.
@@mattmacknight3000 stop blaming owners for everything. If the fans showed up no matter how bad the team is the owner can spend money to lure attractive free agents to the team. Look at San Jose they stunk the past couple of years but fans still support them.
@@kristoferscott3677 San Jose has had success as a team. They've spent big bucks. They haven't won a cup but they've been a contender. Arizona has fans and there's people that can be converted or turned into hockey fans there. The reality is the team has never succeeded there however it failed there NOW, finally, because Meruelo can't run a lemonade stand let alone an NHL club. Ownership never spent money to bring guys in, they preferred to live at the cap minimum. You're defending a BILLIONAIRE that failed to pay hotel bills for his team at one point this year. Regardless of where blame lies, booing SLC and their people is ridiculously petty. Blaming the fans of Arizona is like blaming the family of a cancer patient for the doctor's failures.
@kristoferscott3677 Ownership is a 100% the biggest problem of Arizona Coyotes mismanagement, not the fans. Arizona has fans, the owner keeps making these dumb decisions and talks a big game with the new arena proposal but doesn't back the talk and does little to nothing and screwing over the fanbase while taking away the money in one full swoop.
The Yetis is the obvious choice Great jerseys and logo in the samples, not to mention the merchandising which would be by far the most lucrative for both kids and adults.
The Jets would have more than likely contracted had they stayed in Winnipeg. The 90’s were hard financially for the smaller Canadian markets even the oilers where on the brink of leaving to Houston in 98
@@traviscarpenter08 wasn’t coming after Salt Lake City think it’s a better location for hockey compared to the desert of Arizona. I just think it’s ridiculous that Arizona coyote fans claiming that Salt Lake City is stealing their hockey team from them when they “stole “a hockey team from Winnipeg. Maybe they would’ve had a better arena applying these last few years if fans attended games more. Maybe they would not have gotten kicked out of the arena in Glendale. They were a draw to the area. Just saying.
Utah fans are thrilled, especially Southern Utah fans. Vegas priced us out from watching the Golden Knights, and we are more than happy to abandon them for the Utah team, even though the drive is longer.
I feel bad for the fans but at least you aren’t Oakland fans . They are really going through it lmaooo it’s gonna suck seeing the logo change and the colors but that’s what happens with bad ownership . I use to love watching the yotes as a kid . All the west coast games came on late as fuck on the east coast so I would stay up and watch the yotes , the sharks and the kings on a school night lol
This is all very confusing, originally i thought the coyotes had no fans in AZ and now that they are leaving people have come out and are saying oh they do have fans its just the owners being incompetent and the bad location(the latter being a fair point)
I think both are true. Can’t just put all the blame on the fans or the owner. For an NHL team to succeed, they need both a supportive fan base and a committed owner. Fail to have either is a recipe for disaster.
The problem with the coyotes is that have been consistently bad only making the playoffs 4 times over the past 20 years. It’s hard to get people excited in your product if it isn’t good, especially in a area where have endless options for entertainment
@@DeadAir21 not only that, but it seems when they moved the mullet the ticket prices was very very high. I wanted to go to one of the games in mullet just how odd it was but the prices i was seeing was 500+ per ticket. I could drive 8 hours crossing a border and go to a toronto home game for about the same cost total.
@@daviejz6698 No because it's not seen as a D1 league of the sport within the nation. MLS has its own stadiums, big contracts and has games with decent sized crowds
And another Winter Classic host city (you don't think that SLC tries to get the winter classic and play it in the stadium used by BYU or whatever stadium that is used for the opening and closing ceremonies for the Olympics (and let's not forget Denver, two good stadiums there for the winter classic, and a built in rival with the Avalanche, the Jazz already has the Nuggets as their rival and you could say the Suns as well)
The fans only have the ownership to blame for the move! Ive never heard of team lose the lease on their arena. Sure teame change the name of the primary sponsor of the arena. But never out right lose one.
Dude. I'm pissed that SLC is getting an NHL team. WTF! The NHL should never give Arizona a team again. Incompetent billionaires fucking it up, and still getting a profit when they are forced to sell. The apocalypse is now.
SLC only has a metro of about 1.2 million people, almost 50th in the country. Just don't see why they are in the market for anything beyond the NBA and NHL...
I am sad to see the team leave their fans like this, but this isn't on SLC or UT or anyone else but the owners of the Yotes. I will show support for the team here in SLC (and have an excuse to drive under an hour to see Wings games 🤣 )
SLC will also get an MLB expansion team. the MLB season doesn't have much overlap with the NBA and NHL seasons, so it will be successful as well, again IMO.
We didn't steal them. The NHL bought them and then sold them to Ryan Smith. Which in turn results in The Coyote name staying behind in Arizona. So besides the front office and the team itself it essentially a expansion team within two hours of the announcement there was already 8,000 season ticket deposits. Which is up to 20,000 as a Final count
I have suggested the Utah Diamonds (can link to mining and the skiing tourist industry) however Utah has a history of using Z's in their pro teams: Jazz; Grizzlies; Blitz; Owlz; Starzz; Freezz; Buzz. So Blizzard would fit but maybe they go off the wall with Zebras or something off like that 😆
For years the Hartford Whalers (1972-1997) have been near the top of the NHL merchandise sales. Connecticut loved the Whalers. I’d bet the Coyotes would do better in Hartford than SLC.
I've yet to see any comments about the rash of shootings in the area of westgate enterntainment district in glendale where gila river arena is located - this is in the last few years - relocation was inevitable
Ideally, NHL Expansion from 32 to 36 teams. Phase 1: Phoenix (West) and Atlanta (East). Phase 2: Houston (West) and either another eastern Canadian or American city (Quebec City is the only real option), or another expansion team in the West and move Nashville or Chicago from the West to the East.
The fans in Winnipeg were upset when the team left them in 1995. Atlanta fans were upset when Winnipeg then got their team back. That’s how this works.
No. you won't know by late June if the NHL will return to Arizona. Meruelo gets a five year exclusive window to FINISH an NHL arena, and if he does so, he'll get an expansion team. Just because he wins the land auction doesn't mean the arena will get built, though it obviously increases the odds considerably. Does Meruelo have the money to finance the entire development project, because I suspect the condos / stores / entertainment, etc. is where the money will be made.
Tough! This team was grabbed without hesitation from its home in Canada and foisted on a bunch of hockey neophytes and became the NHL's biggest headache. Bettman was so sure of himself that the relocation would be a cash cow for the NHL based on nothing more than market size. Well, did HE ever look like a fool in the end. This team was purchased out of bankruptcy by the NHL. Then, it took the Goldwater Institute to intervene to prevent a doomed, public bond issue that would've violated the gift clause. After all the turmoil and losses in Glendale, the people of Tempe simply didn't trust the Coyotes to be a profitable venture and voted down a privately-funded facility. The bottom line is, this franchise never got its house in order to be a viable operation. They got 28 years to clean things up. They should only have had about 14! No owner was able to make a profit by owning this team. Jerry Moyes was right!
Ryan Smith and the group has officially said the nickname will be the "Utah" something, not "Salt Lake" something. And I dont see the Utah Bees, Utah Hive, Utah Swarm, or Utah Wasps or anything like that will be what is used.
What fans. If the Coyotes had paid their lease in Glendale and hadn't been kicked out of the arena they wouldn't be moving and wouldn't have gone to play in Tempe at Arizona State University.
Same reason we got the 2002 Winter Olympics and are in the lead to get the 2034 Winter Olympics. We have facilities, mass transit, a great owner and a rabid fan base. Also a brand new airport that is still expanding, new hotels, restaurants and funding for a new arena that is already approved by politicians and the public. This is not 1980 S.L.C anymore, you can even get a drink here now.
I expect the fans to be pissed, but don't be pissed at Salt Lake City, as the bad ownership is to blame, they should've never moved to Glendale in the first place that's what did them in. If they stayed in downtown Phoenix, and had better ownership, I'm sure they'd still have a team in Phoenix today. It does sound they could get a team back in Phoenix once they can get a new downtown arena built.
Atlanta is hard to say, there may be a market there, the flames didn't do well there, the thrashers were doing fine but we're done in by bad ownership and inability to get an arena deal (much like the coyotes). Houston I would think is next line for an expansion team. So that makes me think in 5 years the league will expand to 34 teams with Houston & a new coyotes franchise. Phoenix could work especially now that fans have had the experience of losing the team and knowing the consequences of not supporting them. But I don't think Merlueo (sp?) Is the right guy. Let's see if the league can convince him to sell the rights.
According to a BNN Bloomberg article, because the Smith Entertainment Group also owns the Delta Center, Ryan Smith plans to use the $900M in taxpayer dollars to gradually renovate it and have the Jazz and NHL team stay there instead of building a new arena. According to the article, the Delta Center is already located downtown and will be part of the downtown redevelopment, so it looks like he's just going to use the $900M gift to modernize the existing arena.
NO MORE MERUELO! The Alex and Xavier show had it's final curtain! YOUR DONE IN ARIZONA!!! Pack your money bags and GET OUTTA TOWN! THE FANS CAN NEVER TRUST YOU AGAIN!
How about Golden Eagles after the old minor league hockey team? 💚💛💚 Anyway, I'm liking "Saints" for multiple reasons. But Yeti is probably best. If they use a logo and jersey similar to that mock-up they will sell tons of merchandise.
I hear the team will just be called the Utah HC for its inaugural season and won't get a name until the next season. If that's true that's beyond lame.
My friend always says "You lose them how you get them". Meaning if a girl cheats on her boyfriend to get with you, she eventually will do the same to you. Well Coyote fans, now you know how Winnipeg Jets fans felt way back in 1996.
1st off, SLC has 2 pro teams, not 1 & the 1 that's won a championship isn't the Jazz. 2nd off, SLC's growth pales in comparison to Houston. Houston's population makes it the 4th largest city in the US & =s the entire SLC metro area. I'm sure the NHL would prefer them over SLC just on that basis alone; there's just no active effort by the city to get a team. 3rd off, being a winter city doesn't necessarily make you an automatic qualifier for hockey team. If management does well, a team can prosper anywhere (look at Tampa Bay, Dallas & LA).
Salt lake isn’t stealing their team. Their team failed because of AWFUL ownership, and Utah is bailing them out
They aren't 'bailing them out' lmao. The expansion fee for a team is outrageous and Smith is getting a deal on a good young team with a zillion assets .
And the Coyotes had 8 playoff moments and the 2011-12 Pacific Division Champs
Exactly, but Smyth was so desperate for the team I won't be surprised if he sold his soul to the Devil. "Divine" intervention is the only way I see Bettman give up on his obsession
I read somewhere it was like 1.2 billion to franchise a team?
@Trigger200284 Well, the owner is given a little over $1 billion
The Smith group wasn't trying to get the Coyotes. They were working for an expansion team. It was the NHL that went to the Smith group to take the Coyotes.
The team is dipping out of Arizona due to bad ownership and a bad location in Glendale from 2003-2022.
The arena in Glendale was great, but the location sucked.
What about State Farm Stadium?
And the people of Tempe voting NO.
@@hudsondean2812 People only make the trip to State Farm 8 times a year and most games are on Sundays. For Coyotes games in Glendale, it's 41 games a year and most games are on the weekday. They have to deal with rush hour traffic on the I-10 and it takes almost an hour from Scottsdale, where majority of the fans are located
Also helps to pay the rent at your arena.
I mean, of course the fans are going to be pissed. Fans have been pissed every time a team relocates. It's unavoidable.
It's true Quebec will never forgive losing the Nordiques.
No one is surprised about them being mad, it’s understandable. But they’re misdirecting their hate to Salt Lake instead of their incompetent management.
Brave fans wasn’t pissed when they moved from Boston
@FireRayquaza24 their? Who's the their? Most of the fanbase are angry at Alex Meruelo and the ownership who fucked us over
"Salt Lake City only has one pro sports team"
The MLS and Real Salt Lake: "Are we a fucking joke to you?"
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EXACLTY!!! MLS counts I agree. Once he said they only have one pro team. I paused the video and I'm not listening to this video again
RSL are in Sandy, UT so technically SLC (the city) only has one team in the Jazz.
MLS is a minor Soccer League.
Yes
Ya gotta love how teams struggle to get sustainable attendance for decades then as rumors of relocation get louder and louder, they say "well why would we go to games the team is shit, the owners shit, the stadium is shit/in the wrong location."
Then the team moves and suddenly everyone is a outraged diehard fan who never missed a game and will never have anything at all to do with the sport again!
lol this is true!
The opposite is true as well.
For 20+ years, it's been nothing but how Arizona sucks, and how the team needs to move, and blah, blah, blah.
But the minute they got their wish, it's been nothing but crocodile tears online.
@@666kingdrummer True.
@@666kingdrummerpart of that I think too is fans who are relieved to see the team moved don’t want to be stomping Arizona fans into the dirt about it - I’m a born-and-raised Winnipeger and I was always a bit bitter about the Coyotes pre-2011, (though I wasn’t born early enough to form meaningful relationships with the team) and I bounced between supporting them and despising them as time went on.
It is soul crushing to lose a team in any sport, it’s a pillar of the community that people lean on - when it’s gone it’s hard not to feel like you’re hung out to dry. That being said I’ve argued for a move from Arizona for years, and a small part of me is vindicated that the fans get to feel what it felt like here in ‘96. That being said my problem was with ownership mostly and that’s still the case if the Meruellos are involved. The fans didn’t show up to support the team either, and the fact they couldn’t consistently sell out Mullet arena this year (afaik) seems insane to me.
Whether it’s a poor location, a bad product, or shit management, the bottom line is the community needs to make it work - so when it can’t you get problems (like we’ve seen here earlier in the year) - difference is our management group is dedicated to and has made plans to ensure financial success and viability - Meruello has not.
Ryan Smith on the other hand is eager to prove why Salt Lake deserves a shot, and it’ll be a good hockey market.
Once the grieving period is over I think it’s safe to say most fans will admit it’s a net positive for the NHL.
@@666kingdrummerthis the hypocrisy is real in this community
I'm so happy that common sense prevailed and the NHL is getting this team outta there. Maybe one day when the arena/ownership drama settles down the NHL can try again. But today is not that day.
Coyote OWNER will LOVE Salt Lake City. They'll go from 4,600 fans per game to 17,000 at the old Delta Center.
They had over 17,000 in their old arena in Arizona. 😂
Only seats 4,600 at MULLET ARENA
During the Oilers broadcast, the commentators remarked this was the first time where Oilers fans didn't make up at least "70-80" percent of the fans lol
Can they please not be called the Utah yetis… 🤦♂️
Agreed
They should be called the Coyotes
It's going to be the Yeti I think more likely than not. The Kraken proved a non-traditional name helps move merch even outside the team's market
It’s such a weird suggestion because that and the Blizzard concepts are similar to the Avs in name and branding (I.e. Howler) and I don’t think the NHL would want a copycat team right by the original.
@@thewanda-lorian1447 To be fair they let the Blue Jackets enter a league with the Blues lol
Just in: The board of governors approved the sale of the team this afternoon.
The irony that Arizona lost the Coyotes to Salt Lake City, when Winnipeg lost the original Jers to Phoenix to become the Coyotes.
Cursed franchise
The city of Glendale built the Coyotes a NHL arena, and even swallowed several years of team losses. The team which has been in Arizona for nearly 30 years has never turned a continuous profit. Teams that lose their arena lease shouldn't be a team anymore... While a NHL team maybe a sport, the NHL is also a business....
Glendale deserves some blame in that situation. They wanted the arena to be the centerpiece to an entertainment hub but it failed. People in the valley don’t mind driving to Glendale for football because it’s only 8 times a year on Sundays, but 41 times mostly during the work week proved to be too much. And if they do get the arena built near Scottsdale it will be the nail in the coffin for the Glendale arena.
Glendale is too far away from the rest of the Phoenix area. It’s something like at least an hour there and an hour back, depending on traffic, from say Mesa or Chandler. No one wants to constantly do that drive on weeknights.
The City of Glendale is the Sole Blame for the Coyotes moving. The coyotes originally leased it from glendale long term and shared it with the suns. Then, the city made them switch to leases on a yearly basis. The Coyotes wanted to stay there and wanted a multi year lease at the arena. but, the city cut off negotiations and essentially evicted them saying they did so due to an, "increased focus on larger, more impactful events and uses of the city-owner arena." I hope a new arena is opened nearby, perhaps like Scottsdale, and the coyotes become a Browns like situation for the NHL. and I hope that arena and team succeeds so Glendale can have it's complex rot and be abandoned. Oh, and BTW, this is coming from someone who lives in the midwest, born and raised, that's furious about this situation. Glendale screwed over the Coyotes. Plain and simple.
@@thehoneycamper2634 lol ok.
@@thehoneycamper2634 the Phoenix Suns have NEVER played in Glendale.
Alternative Title: *Salt Lake City is super Hyped to Have NHL Hockey and a New Arena*
I'm super hyped to be able to see my Wings play here instead of driving 8 hours to Vegas
It sucks, but a fresh start when a well-located arena is completed is the best medicine.
Isn’t that what they said when they built the stadium they’re walking away from now?
Some fans are pissed. However, there are many who were beyond frustrated with a history of financial struggles. Better they moved on than clinging on to a sub par organization.
Isn't it ironic that they took another NHL franchise, but now, losing theirs to another city and "Salt Lake City Sucks" 😂
you cant fault the fans, that rediculous.
@@gsisemoreThey didn’t have enough fans to support a hockey team
Why does Salt Lake suck? You have a reason? Or are you referring to the point Arizona fans didn't think they sucked when when they got someone else's team but now the team is leaving them and where they are going sucks?
@@ckstaff I was talking about the Coyotes' fan reaction to losing their team. I've never been to Utah or Arizona, for that matter.
Salt Lake City does suck though.
I was born and raised in Utah. I love everything Utah sports. This has been one of the best weeks of my life. I appreciate your videos on the NHL/MLB coming to Utah the past few months. I watch most of your videos regardless, but you know I have to tune in every time you talk about Utah. Refreshing to see people talk about my state for once, even if a lot of people are understandably angry at the situation.
As for the name, I'd like to see them take the Grizzlies name. The Utah Grizzlies have been the minor league Utah hockey team for a few decades now. It's the team myself and many others grew up with and the brand is just as important to me as the Utah Jazz are. To me it's only fitting to see the team I love be upgraded to major status.
More folks grew up with the Golden Eagles until Larry Miller bought them and PURPOSELY ran them into the ground because they were taking dollars from his precious Jazz.
I'm in the Golden Eagles group.
@@brianc.1149There’s already a Golden Knights. It would be too many goldens.
Also the Bruins have a Bear logo...
Happy that SLC is getting a team but I would like for the Utah Jazz to return the name to New Orleans. It just doesn’t make sense in Utah.
@@Christian-xf4xmBut it sounds and looks so good.
NHL will be back in AZ maybe in 15 years. A hard lesson for Arizona, they took the Coyotes for granted. The community were not vocal about getting things going, very hard to get a team, very easy to lose it.
Arizona Coyotes needs to come back, but NOT Meruelo.
The NHL approved the Arizona coyotes to move to Salt Lake City, Utah
Forsyth county in Georgia is building a center to attract an NHL team. I think thatll work better as no one in Atlantas really that big into hockey but the affluent suburbs certainly have hockey rinks and teams
I think the Northpoint mall location in Alpharetta is going to win out. That's the Anson Carter group and closer to Buckhead and Sandy Springs as well. Still Fulton Co.
Maybe if the fans supported the Coyotes for the past 28 years like they did last night they wouldn't be moving, I seem to remember about a year ago a vote happening where they voted to keep a toxic land fill instead of cleaning it up for a new arena a financial district
The fans did support them like last night - 5000 people a night to watch a bad team.
Hi I enjoy making people mad on the internet. I like to ignore other factors and display my simplified thought process in order to to take the fast lane to pissing people off.
They filled that arena every single game. The ticket prices were crazy expensive because of demand and the need to make up the money for a smaller arena. Hell, we can get 5000+ every night to see the AHL Milwaukee Admirals. The fans supported them as much as they possibly could.
That wrestling fans says when a wrestler from a rival city says with the added word “dix” you know “Salt Lake City Sucks Dix!” A four corner state rivalry perhaps.😅
Just a few things to add:
1. Salt Lake does have two other pro teams, Real Salt Lake in the MLS and Utah Royals in the NWSL.
2. Per ESPN, it sounded like the NHL was getting tired of the Coyotes twittling their thumbs and dragging plans out, so they essentially told Smith that they would be getting the team if things didn’t develop quickly.
how did you remember the MLS teams but not the Jazz? lmao
@@paniccat read my comment again. Video acknowledges the Jazz, I’m adding to what the video says
@@BigCManMusic oh yeah i misread it haha
I don't like the idea of the MLB in Utah at all.
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NO STUPID NAMES!!!..... "Yeti?"... Who've they got working on this stuff, 4th graders?
I agree. I never cared for Seattle naming their NHL the Kraken.
@@panowa8319 I totally agree the Yeti is the stupidest fucking name
I say bring back the Golden Eagles
@@kylemuldrow4652 Too similar to Golden Knights.
I kinda like Yeti but it becomes redundant with the Kraken already in the league.
I could see something like the Utah Diamonds. It couples the skiiing/winter sports industry of the region with the mining history of Utah.
It's long been time to consider MLS a major league. Therefore, the SLC area now has THREE pro sports teams.
Sure. Let's call the WNBA pro sports too while we're at it.
No it is not
Phoenix fans and city council are hypocrites about losing their team when they outright stole the original Winnipeg Jets.
@@w.p.59Quick bitching do you support your current Team? BTW I am from Canada.
Fans and cities don't steal teams... No one steals teams. I get not cheering for the team in the new city but stfu with this "stealing" teams and fans ripping on cities or fans getting a team. Meruelo is the problem. Him and the history of failure of the franchise in Arizona. It isn't Arizona's fans' fault but it also isn't something to be mad at SLC fans about.
@@mattmacknight3000 stop blaming owners for everything. If the fans showed up no matter how bad the team is the owner can spend money to lure attractive free agents to the team. Look at San Jose they stunk the past couple of years but fans still support them.
@@kristoferscott3677 San Jose has had success as a team. They've spent big bucks. They haven't won a cup but they've been a contender. Arizona has fans and there's people that can be converted or turned into hockey fans there. The reality is the team has never succeeded there however it failed there NOW, finally, because Meruelo can't run a lemonade stand let alone an NHL club. Ownership never spent money to bring guys in, they preferred to live at the cap minimum.
You're defending a BILLIONAIRE that failed to pay hotel bills for his team at one point this year.
Regardless of where blame lies, booing SLC and their people is ridiculously petty. Blaming the fans of Arizona is like blaming the family of a cancer patient for the doctor's failures.
@kristoferscott3677 Ownership is a 100% the biggest problem of Arizona Coyotes mismanagement, not the fans. Arizona has fans, the owner keeps making these dumb decisions and talks a big game with the new arena proposal but doesn't back the talk and does little to nothing and screwing over the fanbase while taking away the money in one full swoop.
One of the yeti logos is looking dangerously like the Avalanche’s old secondary logo.
The Avs had the Yeti Footprint
as a Jets fan, I am gutted. I feel like that scene in Rambo where he turns to the Colonel and states "you mean it was all for nothing"
The Yetis is the obvious choice Great jerseys and logo in the samples, not to mention the merchandising which would be by far the most lucrative for both kids and adults.
It’s bad Salt Lake City is “stealing” their team from Phoenix but it’s ok for them to do the same to Winnipeg, Manitoba
The Jets would have more than likely contracted had they stayed in Winnipeg. The 90’s were hard financially for the smaller Canadian markets even the oilers where on the brink of leaving to Houston in 98
UTAH is not stealing the coyotes. Your owners sucked
@@traviscarpenter08 that’s why i put the word in quotes.
@@mikegames3464 I know but anyone who comes after Salt Lake City I want them to know it's not UTAH fault
@@traviscarpenter08 wasn’t coming after Salt Lake City think it’s a better location for hockey compared to the desert of Arizona. I just think it’s ridiculous that Arizona coyote fans claiming that Salt Lake City is stealing their hockey team from them when they “stole “a hockey team from Winnipeg. Maybe they would’ve had a better arena applying these last few years if fans attended games more. Maybe they would not have gotten kicked out of the arena in Glendale. They were a draw to the area. Just saying.
Utahn here. So many of us are hyped to get an nhl team.
Atlanta had shit ownership both times. The Northpoint mall location would do well.
Utah fans are thrilled, especially Southern Utah fans. Vegas priced us out from watching the Golden Knights, and we are more than happy to abandon them for the Utah team, even though the drive is longer.
I feel bad for the fans but at least you aren’t Oakland fans . They are really going through it lmaooo it’s gonna suck seeing the logo change and the colors but that’s what happens with bad ownership . I use to love watching the yotes as a kid . All the west coast games came on late as fuck on the east coast so I would stay up and watch the yotes , the sharks and the kings on a school night lol
Pissed over what had the fans showed up in Glendale none of this would have ever mattered.
RIP Arizona Coyotes 😢
0:21 Thought Ginger was going to say "see you next Tuesday."
This is all very confusing, originally i thought the coyotes had no fans in AZ and now that they are leaving people have come out and are saying oh they do have fans its just the owners being incompetent and the bad location(the latter being a fair point)
I think both are true. Can’t just put all the blame on the fans or the owner. For an NHL team to succeed, they need both a supportive fan base and a committed owner. Fail to have either is a recipe for disaster.
The problem with the coyotes is that have been consistently bad only making the playoffs 4 times over the past 20 years. It’s hard to get people excited in your product if it isn’t good, especially in a area where have endless options for entertainment
@@DeadAir21 not only that, but it seems when they moved the mullet the ticket prices was very very high. I wanted to go to one of the games in mullet just how odd it was but the prices i was seeing was 500+ per ticket. I could drive 8 hours crossing a border and go to a toronto home game for about the same cost total.
And the Tucson Roadrunners?
Mind U they couldn’t really use yeti due to the Avalanche having the Yeti foot alternating logo. I think they should go with “Utah Olympians”
Salt lake has RSL. The team gets 20k+ a game every home game
Just stop with MLS. That’s minor league. We talking bout the big leagues!
@@BlazeOfGlory742 With Messi it's a minor league?
If the USFL got Tom Brady would that make the USFL a major league?
@@daviejz6698 No because it's not seen as a D1 league of the sport within the nation. MLS has its own stadiums, big contracts and has games with decent sized crowds
And another Winter Classic host city (you don't think that SLC tries to get the winter classic and play it in the stadium used by BYU or whatever stadium that is used for the opening and closing ceremonies for the Olympics (and let's not forget Denver, two good stadiums there for the winter classic, and a built in rival with the Avalanche, the Jazz already has the Nuggets as their rival and you could say the Suns as well)
Did you forget the MLS? RSL is a professional team and has been quite successful in SLC.
The fans only have the ownership to blame for the move! Ive never heard of team lose the lease on their arena. Sure teame change the name of the primary sponsor of the arena. But never out right lose one.
Yo the Logo would be sic! Utah Yeti isnt bad
Dude. I'm pissed that SLC is getting an NHL team. WTF! The NHL should never give Arizona a team again. Incompetent billionaires fucking it up, and still getting a profit when they are forced to sell. The apocalypse is now.
MLS is still considered to professional sports so SLC will already have 3 after this move
SLC only has a metro of about 1.2 million people, almost 50th in the country. Just don't see why they are in the market for anything beyond the NBA and NHL...
Outside of the SLC metro which is actually more than 1.2, Utah has almost nothing
BliZZard offers the JaZZ connection in some way....Saints is a New Orleans name but so is Jazz..:)
Saw Scorpions and Stingers as other options.
PLEASE no more double Zs! That has sucked every time someone has tried it.
That should be a good rivalry once Arizona gets an expansion team.
I am sad to see the team leave their fans like this, but this isn't on SLC or UT or anyone else but the owners of the Yotes. I will show support for the team here in SLC (and have an excuse to drive under an hour to see Wings games 🤣 )
SLC will also get an MLB expansion team. the MLB season doesn't have much overlap with the NBA and NHL seasons, so it will be successful as well, again IMO.
It would make more sense to wait till the land auction
We didn't steal them. The NHL bought them and then sold them to Ryan Smith. Which in turn results in The Coyote name staying behind in Arizona. So besides the front office and the team itself it essentially a expansion team within two hours of the announcement there was already 8,000 season ticket deposits. Which is up to 20,000 as a Final count
Wait! What about Howler The Coyote?
I have suggested the Utah Diamonds (can link to mining and the skiing tourist industry) however Utah has a history of using Z's in their pro teams: Jazz; Grizzlies; Blitz; Owlz; Starzz; Freezz; Buzz.
So Blizzard would fit but maybe they go off the wall with Zebras or something off like that 😆
I remain confused how the 46th largest metro area is getting an NHL franchise instead of the 5th largest market in Houston.
There probably would be quite a bit more per capita interest in Utah, which has a climate like Colorado rather than a hot humid place like Houston
For years the Hartford Whalers (1972-1997) have been near the top of the NHL merchandise sales. Connecticut loved the Whalers. I’d bet the Coyotes would do better in Hartford than SLC.
Not a chance
And where are they moving to in 4 years?
Back to Arizona
I've yet to see any comments about the rash of shootings in the area of westgate enterntainment district in glendale where gila river arena is located - this is in the last few years - relocation was inevitable
Ideally, NHL Expansion from 32 to 36 teams. Phase 1: Phoenix (West) and Atlanta (East). Phase 2: Houston (West) and either another eastern Canadian or American city (Quebec City is the only real option), or another expansion team in the West and move Nashville or Chicago from the West to the East.
The fans in Winnipeg were upset when the team left them in 1995. Atlanta fans were upset when Winnipeg then got their team back. That’s how this works.
I love people complaining about out the logos and jerseys…when these are all just fan made concepts. Nothing official has been released yet.
What happened to Quebec City? Last week you said they could move there and now they’re headed to SLC. LMAO
Ryan Smith showed up with a $1.2 billion check is what happened. The speed at which it was done is why
No. you won't know by late June if the NHL will return to Arizona. Meruelo gets a five year exclusive window to FINISH an NHL arena, and if he does so, he'll get an expansion team. Just because he wins the land auction doesn't mean the arena will get built, though it obviously increases the odds considerably. Does Meruelo have the money to finance the entire development project, because I suspect the condos / stores / entertainment, etc. is where the money will be made.
Utah has 2 pro teams. Jazz and Real Salt Lake.
Yes, MLS counts
A nice hockey arena and entertainment area sure would have been a nice addition to Tempe. But, no, the voters decided they'd rather keep a dump.
Why not the Saints? Utah already took the Jazz name from New Orleans, why not take another?
That's how life goes and it is what it is
Tough! This team was grabbed without hesitation from its home in Canada and foisted on a bunch of hockey neophytes and became the NHL's biggest headache. Bettman was so sure of himself that the relocation would be a cash cow for the NHL based on nothing more than market size. Well, did HE ever look like a fool in the end.
This team was purchased out of bankruptcy by the NHL. Then, it took the Goldwater Institute to intervene to prevent a doomed, public bond issue that would've violated the gift clause.
After all the turmoil and losses in Glendale, the people of Tempe simply didn't trust the Coyotes to be a profitable venture and voted down a privately-funded facility.
The bottom line is, this franchise never got its house in order to be a viable operation. They got 28 years to clean things up. They should only have had about 14! No owner was able to make a profit by owning this team.
Jerry Moyes was right!
Salt Lake City Swarm
The arena called "The Hive" or "The Nest".
They could do that, but with a sponsor on top of it
Like for example: US Bank Hive
Ryan Smith and the group has officially said the nickname will be the "Utah" something, not "Salt Lake" something. And I dont see the Utah Bees, Utah Hive, Utah Swarm, or Utah Wasps or anything like that will be what is used.
@@jacobwagner8984Bees is already taken for the SLC Bees
What fans.
If the Coyotes had paid their lease in Glendale and hadn't been kicked out of the arena they wouldn't be moving and wouldn't have gone to play in Tempe at Arizona State University.
All seven of them.
Oklahoma also has one pro team but you font see them getting a NHL team so why should salt lake get one
Same reason we got the 2002 Winter Olympics and are in the lead to get the 2034 Winter Olympics. We have facilities, mass transit, a great owner and a rabid fan base. Also a brand new airport that is still expanding, new hotels, restaurants and funding for a new arena that is already approved by politicians and the public. This is not 1980 S.L.C anymore, you can even get a drink here now.
@markm2342 wait which city are you talking about
Ok hear me out but the Utah Yellowjackets is a stinger.
I expect the fans to be pissed, but don't be pissed at Salt Lake City, as the bad ownership is to blame, they should've never moved to Glendale in the first place that's what did them in. If they stayed in downtown Phoenix, and had better ownership, I'm sure they'd still have a team in Phoenix today. It does sound they could get a team back in Phoenix once they can get a new downtown arena built.
Atlanta is hard to say, there may be a market there, the flames didn't do well there, the thrashers were doing fine but we're done in by bad ownership and inability to get an arena deal (much like the coyotes). Houston I would think is next line for an expansion team. So that makes me think in 5 years the league will expand to 34 teams with Houston & a new coyotes franchise. Phoenix could work especially now that fans have had the experience of losing the team and knowing the consequences of not supporting them. But I don't think Merlueo (sp?) Is the right guy. Let's see if the league can convince him to sell the rights.
According to a BNN Bloomberg article, because the Smith Entertainment Group also owns the Delta Center, Ryan Smith plans to use the $900M in taxpayer dollars to gradually renovate it and have the Jazz and NHL team stay there instead of building a new arena. According to the article, the Delta Center is already located downtown and will be part of the downtown redevelopment, so it looks like he's just going to use the $900M gift to modernize the existing arena.
Poverty franchise move!!!! 😂
Arizona players and fans got screwed, but this had to be done. Happy for Utah.
Now they will know what it felt like when Phoenix “stole” the Winnipeg Jets.
NO MORE MERUELO! The Alex and Xavier show had it's final curtain! YOUR DONE IN ARIZONA!!! Pack your money bags and GET OUTTA TOWN!
THE FANS CAN NEVER TRUST YOU AGAIN!
I found it very sad.
What does the Mormons have to do with this
Those 500 fans will move on.
SLC has 2 pro teams. You forgot about the MLS team
im a dallas fan and i was really hoping the yotes would stay
Now we laugh at Arizona
Arizona and Houston will be the next 2 NHL expansion teams in the near future. Chicago Blackhawks move to the Eastern Conference.
No more expansion 32 teams 8 teams in 4 divisions if it isn't broke don't fix it
Maybe expand to 36.
9 teams per division, 3 divisions per conference and 12 teams per division.
"Ha Ha Ha! Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out, bitches"
Lovingly,
Winnipeg Jets Fans
How about Golden Eagles after the old minor league hockey team? 💚💛💚 Anyway, I'm liking "Saints" for multiple reasons. But Yeti is probably best. If they use a logo and jersey similar to that mock-up they will sell tons of merchandise.
Fans? ... Both of them?
Salt Lake City rn has 2 pro teams, the Jazz and Real Salt Lake
I hear the team will just be called the Utah HC for its inaugural season and won't get a name until the next season. If that's true that's beyond lame.
Salt Lake City has an mls team.
My friend always says "You lose them how you get them". Meaning if a girl cheats on her boyfriend to get with you, she eventually will do the same to you. Well Coyote fans, now you know how Winnipeg Jets fans felt way back in 1996.
And the question is what’s going to be the team name. Utah Coyotes, Utah Yetis, Utah Snow or Utah Blizzards
Arizona is retaining the rights on Coyotes, so that ain’t happening. I like Utah Raptors, Utah Hive, or Utah Arches. I guess Utah Yeti is okay.
Salt Lake Sting
@@briangura7818 - That name invokes the image of gangsters. 😎
Whatever don't make it drag out all summer to come up with a name
UTAH HAS A MLS TEAM THAT WON THE CUP!! DO YOUR RESEARCH FRIEND!!
What's an MLS...?
1st off, SLC has 2 pro teams, not 1 & the 1 that's won a championship isn't the Jazz.
2nd off, SLC's growth pales in comparison to Houston. Houston's population makes it the 4th largest city in the US & =s the entire SLC metro area. I'm sure the NHL would prefer them over SLC just on that basis alone; there's just no active effort by the city to get a team.
3rd off, being a winter city doesn't necessarily make you an automatic qualifier for hockey team. If management does well, a team can prosper anywhere (look at Tampa Bay, Dallas & LA).
That doesn't mean that larger population in Houston will be going to hockey 🏑🏒 games
If fans showed up, this wouldn't be an issue. I never knew how hockey would work in AZ.
Dumb. There are tons of hockey fans in AZ.
@@brianjamds6617 Apparently not if they can't draw enough to pay their bills
The people that are pissed the most are the snowbirds who can’t watch their teams anymore