Batman Begins * FIRST TIME WATCHING * reaction & commentary
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A lot of people prefer Michael Keaton's Bruce Wayne but Christian Bale's Batman, so you're not alone there! Batman has a very large cast of villains, all of them weird and colorful and scary and creepy, and you're going to meet them in turn as we go through Batman movies. Also this movie was directed by Christopher Nolan, whom you'll remember directed "Memento". The whole "flashback" style of non-linear storytelling is employed here too.
oh dang.. Not that you made the connection for Christopher Nolan and Memento - I totally see it.
I never understood why anyone would prefer Michael Keaton's Bruce Wayne/Batman. Keaton was dreadfully miscast as he was too old, too short, and too skinny for the role, and even required a suit with plastic muscles that wouldn't even allow him to turn his head.
@@44excalibur Are you the one who sent him all those hate mail lol
Please donât hate me, I preferred Val Kilmer myself.
@@talkingheads3059 No, but millions of comic book fans sent hate mail to Warner Bros. đ
Ashleigh is making me cackle every time she mentions Star Wars but still hasnât recognised Liam Neeson đ
Ras Al Ghul, in this movie, is a lot like Qui-Gon Jin, if Qui-Gon was a SITH, instead of a Jedi. lol
@@jacob4920 good point
Liam Neesons though? Liam Neesons is my shiiiiiiiiiiiit!
A lot of people were put out over how Batman allows Qui Gon Jinn to die, but rescues Joffrey Baratheon...
@@jacob4920 good point also do you think ashleigh would like taken?
"I don't know if anybody can play the Joker, quite like Jack Nicholson can"
Ashleigh. You're about to be shown the way. And we're all here for it.
The one you are referring to is an awesome Joker, but a different one. He couldnÂŽt do the Jack Nicholson Joker as much as Jack Nicholson could to the one you are referring to.
Btw: Mark Hamill is the GOAT of Jokers (at least my opinion)
To be fair, nobody CAN play the Joker quite like Jack Nicholson did, which is part of why Heath Ledger took the character in a much different direction
@@brandonmelling771 Absolutely. Nicholson's Joker, like Keaton's Bats, was for a different time and place. WE as a people, were in a different time and place then. Caught up in the spectacle of finally watching something that had some serious money behind it to bring the story to life. But that was then. Trying to return to that would be like trying to re-watch episodes of Threes Company or the Love Boat now. Heath made you BELIEVE he was the Joker and not just acting as the iconic villain.
In my opinion, Jack's Joker was influenced by Caesar Romero's portrayal of the Joker from the 60's TV series. Nicholson was able to make him a darker more menacing character.
@@markh3271 Great point. You can see where the inspiration comes from. There being so few examples to draw from makes total sense there'd be so much taken from Romero.
I love how Ashleigh keeps saying, âHe looks familiar,â and then is looking at her phone when the credits roll for Liam NeesonâŠ. đ
I just cackled at that part watching her. Lord sheâs just the best
Millennial problems
@@bryancash8251 Qui Gon gave her Obi vibes.
am I the only one who laughed uncontrollably when she talked about Obi Wan when Quigon was on screen?
I love that the moment Ashleigh sees Liam Neeson she says "He looks familiar" and "I'm getting Star Wars vibes" and "This is like Obi-wan Kenobi" but 13:00 minutes in she says that Morgan Freeman is the first person she recognizes. (Poor Michael Caine goes unmentioned, despite Secondhand Lions!)
And Gary Oldman as Jim Gordan. Aka Sirius Black in Harry Potter
@@timjb19621 I was going to add Rutger Hauer aka Roy Batty but just checked and Ashleigh has not watched Blade Runner yet :(
Gary Oldman is one of those actors I'll recognize, but never make the connection between movies.... loved him in Air Force One\
Talking of Star Wars vibes, what happened to May the 4th? Aren't we about due a Rogue one reaction?đ
Oldman disappears into roles too well to be easily recognized. Has she not seen Christian Bale before? She needs to see Newsies and American Psycho.
Wait till you meet this joker
"Wait till they get a load of me..." oh wait lol
Joker: You complete me!
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â@@ThefetchNZ Okay!
Almost every Joker has been great. Heath Ledger was the best.
Proof of how good Gary Oldman is as a versatile actor, you didn't even notice Serious Black was in this movie after just watching the Harry Potter series.
She did say the bat suit was painted serious black
I find it remarkable how many varied characters he plays that are based on real people (Sid Vicious, Lee Harvey Oswald, Ludwig Wan Beethoven, Herman J. Mankiewicz, Pontious Pilate, Dylan Thomas, Winston Churchill) or fictional characters that have been already played by other actors or else established in the collective imagination (James Gordon, Sirius Black, Dracula)
â@@woodgatejack He's got another one to add to that "real people" list - he plays President Truman in this year's Oppenheimer, his next collaboration with Chris Nolan.
He tends to just disappear into his roles I swear. Every time he pops up it takes me a minute to even register itâs him.
Serious Black lmfao
Batman doesn't have just a single major villain. He, like most comic book superheroes, has what's called a "rogues gallery" or a group of villains they typically face off against. For Batman, his rogues include the Joke, who's probably the most well known, the Scarecrow, Mr. Freeze, the Penguin, Catwoman (who's sometimes his girlfriend). Ra's al Ghul (who's actually supposed to be an immortal (ish) who uses a mystical pit that contains chemicals that rejuvenates him). The Riddler, Two Face, Bane, Mad Hatter, Joke's girlfriend Harley Quinn, Poison Ivy (who later becomes Harley's girlfriend). Clayface. Man-Bat.
also..
Talia (Raz al' Ghoul's daughter)
Red Claw
Killer Croc
Phantasm (animated movie: Mask of Phantasm)
@@redmoonbloodmoon3161 Talia walks a fine line as one of his rogues; though I guess if Catwoman counts, she does too.
@@redmoonbloodmoon3161 The Mad Hatter, Calendar Man, The Court of Owls, The Black Mask, The Ventriloquist
Man I remember watching the animated series and Clayface was the only one I who terrorized me lol.
@@peeg100 the transformation, when those thugs held him down and poured the putty on, him/in him was brutal to watch.
Guys, she needs to see âBatman Returnsâ. She needs to see Danny Devito as The Penguin and Michelle Pfeiffer as Cat Woman.
I highly recommend this!
If only for the chance to see her brain go BOOM on camera đ€Ł
Yep. Batman returns is also very good.
She really should see that if she saw Batman '89.
Michelle Pfeiffers Catwoman is really memorable.
No she doesn't.
I just made a comment explaining how she's watching them out of order. Batman Returns is the best. Wish Tim Burton could have made another one.
I was a vfx compositor on this trilogy! Still the most fun I've had! So glad you did this one...and the next one is literally one of the best films ever made đ
I'm curious about the job. Is that more editing or VFX skills? You've inspired me today
You and fellow fx artists did an amazing job. Thanks for your hard work.
All three? Cool!
I can't wait to see her reaction to HL as Joker. Straight up one of the greatest performances of all time.
That's awesome, everyone including yourself on these movies did an incredible job, its one of my favourite trilogies ever made
I love the bit at 12:20 when Bruce is surrounded by the column of bats. That's always felt to me, like almost a baptism. The moment the Batman was truly born. As he stood in his place of power, surrounded by the symbol of his fear and his motivation. The way the music swells as he stands up, the look of controlled fear, alchemizing into calm determination. Just SO damn good!
BATtism
@@MrJerks93I was hoping someone commented that haha
The fact that the Batmobile ("The Tumbler") was real is still amazing to me. Yes, they built that for real.
And did Christian Bale get to drive it?
"Isn't there a Dr. Penguin?" Once again Ashleigh, you made my day.
There IS a Dr Penguin, Roger's psychiatrist persona in "American Dad"
â@@ianharrison3662came here to say this, lol
I feel like Dr. Penguin would have to be a quack.
Dr. Penguin is the DC universe's version of Dr. Pepper
Lady, you're alright! đ„°
Oh, youâre gonna miss out on Michelle Pfeifferâs cat woman she makes Batman returns and Danny DeVito as the penguin marvelous
You can thank Inky Binky for being a complete shit head for that.
She definitely needs to see that one as well. My favorite Catwoman and Penguin in every version.
Batman Returns was banging - the story somehow got darker, and it also got more Tim Burton esque
I think the backstory with Rachel is that she is someone that Bruce has known since childhood, and he has kinda been in love with her forever. So then when he decides to become Batman, he has to cultivate a public face for "Bruce Wayne" as an irresponsible, party-going, rich doofus, someone who is throwing away all his potential (the scene where she slaps him in the car). The scene with the supermodels in the fountain shows us how embarrassed he is for Rachel to see him in this fake persona (note he is only pretending to be drunk). She is one of the few people whom he cares about, and he wants her respect, and here he has made a fool of himself in front of her. Side note: the cute little blond kid is the actor who played the evil King Joffrey on Game of Thrones.
5:47 This scene gives me the feels. This was the first moment of comfort he got from anybody after his parentsâ deaths. This scene will get a hell of a feels inducing callback in the future.
Oh yes! This scene specifically! Love the callback! Probably my favorite scene in *that* film!
I love how Gordon is a primary fixture of the Nolan Batman franchise. He was almost a background character in the Burton/Schumacher films.
Now you've seen two films with Michael Caine. For your next I suggest _Dirty Rotten Scoundrels_ (1988), an excellent crime comedy, co-starring Steve Martin.
The Penguin is another of the Batman villains. He's in the 60s TV series, played by the great Burgess Meredith (Mickey in the Rocky movies), and in _Batman Returns,_ the second Michael Keaton Batman. In that film Danny DeVito plays The Penguin. Penguin is also in the TV series _Gotham_ (2014-19) and in newest movie _The Batman_ (2022).
Very excited for your introduction to Cary Grant in _Arsenic and Old Lace._
I've been wanting her to do Dirty Rotten Scoundrels too.
She's seen 3, muppets Christmas Carol, second lions and this
@@ingibingi2000 Oof, forgot about Muppets Christmas Carol.
Yes, yes, yes! Dirty Rotten Scoundrels! Also Noises Off! with Michael Caine and a spectacular comedic cast.
Dirty Rotten Scoundrels also stars Steve Martin. Another actor you have said could âgetâ it.
I think Ashleigh is starting to understand now why we were all surprised when she didnât know what happened to Bruceâs parents in Batman 89
29:34 I think originally in the script they had him screaming. Him just quietly closing his eyes knowing there's nothing he can do makes a much better scene.
Joe Chill and Bruces interactions have been portrayed very differently in comics over the years, but he always ends up being remorseful. In one instance Bruce reveals to him that he is Batman, knowing full well that if Joe tells anyone all the citys criminals would murder him for being the one who created the one who haunts them every night. In a more recent issue Bruce, sat with Joe at the hospital as he died, having forgiven him. So much better than having him be gunned down by mobsters to save Bruce from making the mistake of killing him.
ASHLEIGH: Jack Nicholson was great as the Joker
HEATH LEDGER: Hold my beer.
I agree as both were exceptional but Ledger took it to a whole different level.
So, I really love this trilogy of Batman movies. Not everyone does, but honestly, as a clean-slate Batman with the arc that he's got in this one, I really feel like it does a pretty awesome job. I remember seeing these movies in the theaters - all three of them. Heck, when The Dark Knight Rises came out, I went to a Thursday marathon showing of the first two at my local theater, which ended with a midnight release showing of The Dark Knight Rises. THAT was a long day! But it was so awesome to see them all. I know you're going to be blown away by the next one. I'm SO looking forward to that!
Here's a comics thing that may be useful when considering the various versions of characters in the films.
In comics you often get a new team assigned to a title. And they bring their own take on the character, often changing the backstory while keeping the essentials.
Its the same with the films. Over in the MCU you have Thor in Phase 1 & 2, and then the Thor from Thor: Ragnarok, essentially the same but with different tones. Some people like the change, some people hate and some like elements of both.
Batman (1960's) reflected the goofiness of the comics at the time
Burton's Batman had the Gothic overtones that goes with Burton's style.
Schumacher's Batman went camp and reflected the film companies wish to sell toys through McDonalds.
Nolan's Batman was an attempt to go almost "Real-World" with the character.
Snyder was more rooted in the comics with a few significant differences (No Spoilers in case you watch it)
The latest incarnation by Matt Reeves gives us a "Year Two" look at Batman where he's been around but is still relatively new,
Speaking of Batman actors....if you get the chance, experience Kevin Conroy as the voice of Bruce Wayne/Batman in the DC Animated Universe.
He was - in my opinion - the definitive version of the character.
Adam west ftw
I was kinda hoping she would watch Mask of the Phantasm when Contoy died.
â@@AlexSeverinski agreed
That is the best Batman film
Conroy best Batman
Conroy is still the only actor to give separate "identities" for Bruce Wayne and Batman. One of the few actors that realized that superheroes have duel identities to live and can't have them mix.
Bale and Nolan gave us throat cancer Batman for some reason. One would think they would have atleast come up with the same tech that Arrow used on his tv show to disguise his voice.
When you mentioned the Penguin, he is in the sequel to Tim Burton's original Batman. Batman Returns which also has Michael Keaton as Bruce Wayne/Batman. And The Penguin is played by one of your favorite actors, not gonna say who. You definitely need to check that out first. So many people thought it was too dark for a Batman Movie when it first came out in theaters.
Also very prominent in the Gotham series
I agree Ashleigh needs to go back and watch the Penguin. Her love of that actor will be tested or increased lol
She should watch the Michael Keaton original series first. Why jump ahead to this instead? Weird. Ashleigh needs to see Michelle Pfeiffer's Catwoman before the pale version of Anne Hathaway.
came here to say this, but glad you did this cause I might of spoiled it
Honestly, once you're done with all the movies you should watch the 90's Batman animated series on your own! It's iconic for so many reasons, it's pretty true to the comics and it's a great tour through the world and characters of Batman for someone who didn't grow up with it!
I donât know why people hate bats. I love them. Theyâre such amazing creatures! â€ïžâ€ïžâ€ïžâ€ïžâ€ïž
The Joker in this series is coming, and can't wait to see your reaction to him.
I just hate that the first Joker she sees will but such a weird outlier version of the joker, that will probably forever taint her idea of what the Joker is supposed to be...
Liam Neeson, in Star Wars Episode 1, who was a Jedi master. His Padowan was Obi-Wan Kenobi.
Yeah, shame he died. Would have liked to see him in at least the following film. Still, at least Obi-Wan Dewey-Cox'd Darth Maul for it.
Qui-Gon Jinn
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Glad you liked this one, cannot wait to see what you think of the next one in this trilogy.
When Batman was injured and slept 2 days, and When Morgan freeman left after visiting him? The way Alfred said his name? There was a mountain of relationship information in that word. I love it.
Gary Oldman who plays Det. Jim Gordon was also Sirius Black in the Harry Potter films. Cillian Murphy is brilliant as the Scarecrow.
He was also Dracula from Bram Stokerâs Dracula and Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg from The Fifth Element.
I'm honestly feeling anxious that Ashley hasn't watched Batman Returns before jumping into the Nolan run. She'd absolutely die watching that movie and fall in love with Pfieffer's Catwoman.
Also if there's any Tim Burton movie with Danny Devito to watch during the Christmas season, it's Batman Returns. I said as much watching her holiday reaction to Big Fish.
IÂŽm totally with you. ItÂŽs scratching some Nerve of mine that Ashleigh jumped over Returns. She would love Danny and Michelle in that Movie.
Yes "save it for next Christmas"
"I am Catwoman, hear me roar"
But if we never fell, we wouldn't have to pick ourselves up, would we?đ€
@@ninjabluefyre3815 Meow
I am so glad to see that wonderful Bean footage! ;-) Listening to her Purr was a delight. She was one happy Kitty! Kudos to you for getting her healthy and losing weight is a good thing! (My kitty passed away several months ago, so I am so glad to see Beans getting healthy). I really liked this version of Batman. Batman was a dark character who came as a reaction to the gang violence of 1930's Chicago, (Al Capone and that crowd). This movie was filmed in Chicago and the city played an important part in this. I grew up with the 1960's campy version of Batman from the TV series which was both ludicrous and interesting at the same time. The Batmobile and Batcave were awesome in that but the playing of the whole thing as comedy just ruined the franchise. Batman was dark, born of suffering and his purpose was to make the criminals who killed his parents suffer and when he failed to do that, his wrath was put upon all criminals. One thing I did love was the score by Jams Newton Howard and Hanz Zimmer. The music gave a brilliant flair to this version as much as Danny Elfman's score did to Time Burton's Batman. I do agree with you to a certain extent about the Keaton/Bale Batman's. I like the Bale version of the tech and action sequences which are far more believable than Tim Burton's Batman which replicated a comic book style with a smattering of the camp of the 1960's Batman series. But I love Keaton as the more personable Bruce Wayne who is far more caring, rather than Bale's who is a jerk in most scenes, even if justified for safety. It just doesn't quite get it for me. Christopher Nolan did a better job capturing the darkness of Batman. I hope you stick it out and see the rest of the Nolan Batman trilogy. You asked where it was filmed, well the scenes in the temple were filmed in Iceland where the volcanic desolation made for a perfect background.
The Penguin is in _Batman Returns_ played by Danny DeVito and also has my favorite Catwoman played by Michelle Pfeiffer
one of the best Christmas movies ever
âHow can anyone be better than Jack Nicholson as The Joker?â Oh you sweet and fluffy child, youâre in for a treat! I canât wait for your reaction to âThe Pencil Trick.â
Why? They play 2 different jokers. I wouldnât say either one is better just different.
Ceasars Romero has entered the chat....
âSome days you just canât get rid of a bomb!â
Like Obi-Wan and Anakin.... Or maybe Obi-Wan and Qui Gon Jin? đ
I love how this movie explains so well how and why the criminal element of Gotham fears Batman so much.
I kept hoping Ashleigh would put it together that she was watching Qui-Gon Jinn.
Also why there's so many crazy people in Gotham.
A lot of the movie was taken from Frank Miller's "Batman: Year One" graphic novel. If you like comics it's a great read. Nolan does a great job with the details of Batman's origin. Thanks for reacting!
âDude is skipping his own birthday party to save his side ho.â đđ
Really looking forward to your next Batman movie reaction. They hired some new guy to play the Joker.
New guy? Heath was well known.
And he was well loved and passed away
@@eccentricshaun7637 Guy, he's being sarcastic.
If you want to have some fun with a Batman movie, then watch the 1966 version with Adam West. He was on an episode of the Big Bang Theory and he made fun of Christian Bale because he just had to keep telling everyone he was Batman. West said "I never had to say i was Batman. I showed up. People knew who i was."
Adam West as Adam West on Family Guy was just 10 kinds of awesome
Some days you just can't get rid of a bomb.
That's actually pretty funny and true. It's along the same lines I didn't like Kevin Costner as Wyatt Earp. His movie, made sure to say it out loud to people. In Tombstone with Jack Burton, everyone knew the name and he didn't have to go announcing it.
â@@cchavezjr7 It's not that true
How many times did he announce his name as Batman in the 2nd & 3rd movies.
This is called Batman _Begins_. It's an origin movie. He told people he was Batman because his reputation hadn't been established yet.
I grew up watching the old 60âs Batman reruns every day at 3pm. West and Keaton are my Batman(s). I canât think of any iterations of Batman that I didnât like.
Johnathan Crane has been a fixture of Batmanâs rogues gallery for quite a while, I first saw him in Batman The Animated Series back in the 90s. A character who utilizes fear in a totally different way from Batman is an interesting contrast, and the episodes featuring Scarecrow are some of the best in the series. Other famous Batman villains include The Riddler, Mr. Freeze, Poison Ivy, Catwoman, Two-Face, Killer Croc, and of course, The Joker. Enjoy The Dark Knight when you get to it. As a tiny heads up, Rachel is recast for the sequel. Katie Holmes stepped out and Maggie Gyllenhaal takes over going forward.
Yes, there is a Batman villain called The Penguin, watch Batman Returns for a great take on him. Real name Oswald Cobblepot, he is of short stature and has webbed fingers. Heâs typically portrayed as a thief with a fixation on birds and umbrella based gadgets.
Scarecrow has been around since 1941. A founding rogues member.
Scarecrow was also a member of the Legion of Doom in the Superfriends cartoon.
"Why is this giving me Obi-Wan"
Damn, she's so close! đ
Can't wait for the next one! Please don't make us wait too long.
This film is the best in the trilogy for me from it's tone, art direction, and aesthetic it feels amazing and the Narrows really adds to the overall city along with the really cool Art Deco Train system built by Thomas Wayne. The Dark Knight is seen as the better film by many but it lacks in art direction for me at least with how Gotham is depicted something Dark Knight Rises suffers from as well. But they're great films I just prefer Batman Begins as a whole. Mask of the Phantasm is my fav Batman film of all time but it's animated so many people tend to overlook it even though it released in the pictures and was promoted as an animated film similar to something like Into the Spider-Verse.
In terms of being comics accurate it does pull from stuff like Batman Year One by Frank Miller which introduced the idea of Bruce going off to explore the world and train only to return to Gotham and become Batman. This is highlighted in this film. The villains of Year One are corruption in Gotham City so its more grounded in the city itself from corrupt police to gang members etc. At the end of Year One a Joker card is shown to Batman by Jim Gordon just like this film.
The Long Halloween is when the "Meta Villains" start to show up the changing of the guard from the classic Mafia types to the Super Villains but Nolan wanted to keep everything grounded, in my view too grounded so there's no supernatural aspects or the more comic book inspired origin stories so no Clayface, Posion Ivy, etc. Superman would 100% not exist in this universe nor would half of the Justice League or the DC universe in fact. Ra's Al Ghul is a great example in the comics he's immortal kept alive, cheating death due to the powers of the Lazarus pit. This is too comic supernatural for Nolan so that was changed. These movies are great but they're not good "Batman" films to me at least, feel more like crime films which just happen to feature Batman, more so in the later two films. Batman Begins is really the only film that feels like a Batman film as a whole.
So yeah you'll have a blast with these films. May not be as visually unique and interesting as The Batman or the Burton films but the characters and stories are great. If you want to be introduced to the late Kevin Conroy I do recommend watching Mask of the Phantasm, set in the DC Animated Universe it's a mix of an origin story and side story set in the DCAU so you don't need to watch the Batman Animated Series to understand anything. Think of the DCAU as the MCU just a series of shows all connected from Batman to Superman, Static Shock and then The justice League and a really cool show set in the future called Batman Beyond featuring a older Bruce Wayne and a new Batman.
Itâs my fav of the three as well, I always have a soft spot for origin stories, plus I just thought this was just overall a tighter movie. Plus scarecrow is my fav Batman villain, it was nice to finally see him get some attention!
Yeah Nolan's Gotham really fell off in the sequels going from a pretty good depiction of "Gotham" a Gothic city with a dark tone designed like a mix of a European and American city. But in Dark Knight it's just feels like Batman in Chicago. People say "Well it's trying to be realistic" yet I live in Glasgow a city that just looks like Gotham City from the comics, without the Skyscrapers of course but the gothic architecture is there. Realistic doesn't equal boring or uninspired, Cities have personalities and I just never got why Gotham's was striped away in the sequels. The Batman though that did this really well and The Flash was filmed in Glasgow as well for the opening scene with Batfleck so i hope they come to Glasgow more when they need a Gotham City.
â@@Sand420 I think Nolan wanted Gotham to feel like it could be any city so it became a more generic American City so any viewer could relate to what's happening more like the idea that this could be happening in you're own city. But yeah I was never a big fan of this concept Gotham City has it's own history, landmarks, identity, and aesthetic remove these and its no longer Gotham City. Batman 89, Returns, Forever, Begins, and The Batman all do this really well and it's really my only big problem with the Nolan films.
Hopefully this is something James Gunn takes into account not only for Gotham but Metropolis as well which in live action has never been done justice. The DCEU Metropolis has zero personality almost feels like the city from the Matrix, City of Tomorrow after all so I hope he goes all in on the Art Deco 1950s meets modern time look. Super Pets had a great Metropolis so hopefully we get something like that.
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I think it's interesting that you say you consider these "crime films that feature Batman" rather than "Batman films" considering that the Batman comics in general largely focus much more on the detective and crime aspects. So...basically you prefer it to be more cartoony and campy and less grounded and dark like the comics. That's a wild take. I know I'm twisting your words a bit here, but still I don't really get it.
Revenge and justice are never the same. Justice is about fair distribution of pretty much anything (e.g. resources, treatment under the law, and punishments); revenge is about punishing a particular individual or group of individuals as a means of appeasing one's anger.
Liam Neeson played the bearded villain / mentor in this Batman movie. Technically, this villain is probably more than a man, and that's not a spoiler as this is never handled in the movies. Speaking of Batman movies, you should see "Batman Returns," the sequel to the one with Jack Nicholson. It's very artistic. Like a Dickens Christmas story for children turned dark and adult. As for Neeson, I'm surprised you didn't recognize him, as he's in a lot of movies. These days he's best known for "Taken," which is top notch action / detective drama. Definitely a must-see. As for the Joker, he first appeared in 1939 in a Batman story in "Detective Comics," and when Batman got his own comic book the following year, the Joker was the villain in issue #1. (FWIW, Catwoman was also in issue #1.)
You need to see the second Michael Keaton Batman, with The Penguin and CATWOMAN! It's still my favourite Batman movie - I think you'll enjoy it. Likewise, the second "Dark Knight" is the best of the trilogy, IMO. Heath Ledger's Joker was unexpected and brilliant. Such a loss when the actor died so young.
Glad youre getting into this. It truly is a remarkable trilogy. And i am very excited that you are collaborating with Mary Cherry! Looking forward to that reaction đ
Alfred was in Second Hand Lions.
Liam Neeson played Bruceâs mentor/nemesis and was younger Obi-Wanâs mentor in Star Wars: The Phantom Menace, and was in âTakenâ and âHonest Thief,â (both of which you should see), and I thought you watched âLove Actually.â He was in that.
James Gordon was also Sirius Black in the Harry Potter movies.
The CEO of Wayne Enterprises is Rutger Hauer. Heâs the chief nemesis in Bladerunner, which you must see because Darryl Hannah (2 years before Splash) andâŠHarrison Ford.
Rachel is one of Tom Cruiseâs exes.
You're in for a fantastic time. And congrats to Beans, we're very proud of her.
Penguin was the main villain of Batman Returns, Keaton's last time as Batman until the recent Flash movie. You owe it to yourself to see that one.
After that is Batman Forever, which is still good. It has Val Kilmer as Bruce Wayne and Jim Carrey as The Riddler.
After that is Batman & Robin, the indisputable low point of the franchise, but it's still fun. It has George Clooney as Bruce Wayne, Arnold as Mr. Freeze, and Uma Thurman as Poison Ivy.
The next movie, The Dark Knight, has The Joker played by Heath Ledger shortly before he died. Yes, it's every bit as good as anyone has ever told you.
Lastly, if you want the other best performance of The Joker, you need to watch the animated movie Batman: Mask of the Phantasm. It came out between seasons one and two of the animated series, which is very famous for both creating Harley Quinn and casting Mark Hamill (Luke Skywalker) as The Joker. In my opinion, the animated series is its own special beast and shouldn't be watched as a reaction. Just enjoy it on your own time, no expectations, no performance for the audience, just you, your thoughts, and the best damn kids' show ever penned by man.
Ledger is great as the Joker in terms of performance but I don't think he was written very well since he's not so much intelligent as everyone else acts dumb when his plans are at work. Mostly the police but even Batman himself conveniently forgets that he's hunting the Joker when he knows the villain is stuck up in a building at the party (threatening other guests, but apparently only Rachel mattered).
So in terms of writing there are much better examples of the character in my view.
Other people have said this already, but most of these superhero movies only adhere somewhere from 30% to 70% accuracy to the comics, mainly because there are so many iterations of the comics -- the origins and major battles with villains (like The Joker, for example) have been written and then reimagined over and over again -- think the three versions of Spider-Man you've seen so far. Most movies have a tendency to pick a specific take or story from the comics and use major pieces from that to create a story for a movie. If I'm remembering correctly, this one borrows from storylines called "Year One" and "The Long Halloween," whereas the current and newest Batman pulls from one called "Hush." To connect the dots, "Civil War" was an extremely famous storyline in Marvel comics that obviously served as the basis for Captain America: Civil War.
"Don't make him choose between being Batman and you because you're going to lose that battle!" Hehe if you weren't so busy HATING on her you would notice that's exactly why she's telling him she won't be with him until he's done being Batman.
The Penguin appears in three live-action Batman movies. Won't spoil which ones, but in my opinion, all three of them are good.
Personally, I'd love to see you get to 10 Things I Hate About You regardless, but I think it would be especially fun if you got to it before you get to the sequel to this, The Dark Knight.
She should do a month of Shakespeare movies. TTIHAY is one, She's the Man is another, and she needs to see Forbidden Planet.
A large, probably the major part of the problem is that Warner Bros has never had the planning, continuity and interaction of characters that Marvel/Disney has. And when they did bring characters together as in the Justice League, they still didn't do a great job. So there have been multiple actors playing Batman (and Superman), multiple origin stories, and they've run the gamut from comedy to really dark. So no wonder you've been confused. Fox did the same with Spiderman, which is why there are multiple Spiderman 1, 2, etc. Tom Holland has done a very good job and he's gotten the most screen time in stand alone Spiderman and Avenger movies. Anyway, DC and Warner Bros just haven't pulled it off in a grand way.
With regards to the fear thing, I'm going to cross genres again and quote from Frank Herbert's Dune series (books and movies). I think it addresses how heroes and villains have faced their fears and then adopted them, turning a weakness to a strength.
"...Fear is the mind-killer...the little-death... I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain."
Batman graphic novels are kind of stand alone. Separate series kinda works for batman
The Dark Knight Trilogy is the quintessential superhero trilogy.
When Christopher Nolan was announced to renew Batman's saga on film, I was excited to see what he could do.
The writing, producing and vision was Ultra-realistic.
Casting of players around Christian Bale is top notch for these characters, villains, allies, etc
The locations are a mixture of sets and actual places.
Very well crafted to this world in which Bruce Wayne exists.
Still as dark and serious as possible.
Resetting the bar for Batman's legacy on film.
Also set an example for a few superhero franchises in reboot mode.
I did see Nolan's early films, Memento (2000) & Insomnia (2002) which you'll like too.
Keaton. As a kid I grew up on Batman 1960s re-runs. As I approached my teenage years Batman 1989 came out. It was a darker more kick ass version of what I grew up with. Timing was everything for that movie and it will always be a top movie tier movie for me. Also 1989 had the coolest Batmobile.
Ashleigh, if you need a crash course in the major Batman villains may I suggest watching Batman '66. The movie is an offshoot of the Batman TV series, It's tone is a 180 turn from the recent films. It is full of deadpan humor, but it has the major baddies, Joker, Penguin, Riddler and Catwoman. I doubt it's worthy of reacting to on YT but so worth watching on your own HIGH AS A KITE.
With her any movie is worth a reactionđ
The shark scene really nails... something. I remember watching it in the mid 70's as a child and wondering how much more awesome life could get.
No, I would LOVE to see her react to it!!!
Gotta love the Adam West campy deadpan humor on both the '66 movie and that tv series. Batman at his silliest.
In the original comic Bruce's parents were not leaving the opera but the cinema where they had taken Bruce to see the Tyrone Power movie "the Mark of Zorro". This probably added to his guilt over their deaths as it was a treat for him. If you watch "The Joker" a cinema in the background of the final scenes is showing "Mark of Zorro" as a call-back to the comic.
Earlier than that, The Waynes went to see the Douglas Fairbanks Jr. silent film version of "The Mark of Zorro" (1920), then Batman appears in 1939. As time passes, the version of Zorro changes.
DC had a web page explaining that his mother was the real target and was revived in the ambulance. She was then put into protective custody as Martha Clark, in Kansas. She married a farmer named Kent, but couldn't have any more kids because of her injuries. So they adopted and named the kid Clark.
I forget the year they posted it but it was on April 1stđ.
Fantastic reaction Ashleigh! I'm a huge fan of both films, the original Batman and this one too. I'm actually with you on liking Michael Keaton's Bruce and Bale's Batman! I'm not sure if other reactors ever tried to explain it in that way before. Anyway though! Super happy that you're FINALLY reacting to this group of movies! They're all very entertaining. My favorite would either be this one or the one that's coming up. Be prepared for some action!!
You rock Ashleigh! Big fan.
"God, what a nightmare! I dreamed I kidnapped Liam Neeson's daughter and he just wasn't having it. They've made three of those movies! At some point you gotta start wondering if he just isn't a bad parent."
Batman Returns from 1992 is THE best one!
looking forward to the rest of the trilogy, also a minor typo in title.
I'mma fix it!
The funny thing I find about _Batman Begins_ is that originally it was originally not going to be the start of a franchise (or so I read somewhere) It was meant to be "one and done", with the Joker's calling card being a "and the rest is history" moment, rather than a set-up for the next movie.
There are a few movies like this, in which it's left open ended, but with no intentions for a sequel, but rather the story continuing in the audiences imagination. However, the nature of films today, audiences and production companies expect successful films to spawn franchises.
_Back to the Future_ is a definite example of this. On the blue-ray commentary the makers said that the end of the first film was to show that Marty and Jennifer lived happily ever after (apart from a problem with their kids) and the three of them continued having adventures. They said that _if_ they had planned a sequel, that they would have left Jennifer behind as they didn't know what to do with her, which is why Doc knocks her out near the start of the film.
Ashleigh, love you! Always look forward to spending time with you. Cheers from northern Ontario.
I love this trilogy so much glad you are doing this :D
I love that ingibingi2000 chose Bat May to introduce you to this and I canât see that as a coincidence. Loved your reactions and definitely looking forward to your reactions on the next two to round off this brilliant trilogy
2:19 Doctor...Penguin... OHH BROTHER ! đ€Ł
3:41 Liam Neeson, you know him is Qui-Gon Jinn from Star Wars, rumours are that Liam has a massive light sabre too, f'you know what I is sayin.
12:12 BatCave dear, BatCave !
19:14 Ashleigh's never seen Game of Thrones then?
24:19 Did a plane just taxi up next to your house?
27:37 E.T. ?
Batman has been around for decades. He first appeared in comics in 1939. He's been adapted to live action and animation many times since then.
Joker is the most prominent recurring villain (first appeared in comics in 1940), but Batman has _dozens_ of villains, and arguably the best set of villains of any superhero.
The most well-known are Joker, The Penguin, The Riddler, Catwoman, Two-Face, Poison Ivy, Mister Freeze, Scarecrow, and Ra's Al Ghƫl. There are dozens more, including Harley Quinn (originally the Joker's sidekick in one of the cartoons), Firefly, Black Mask, Bane, Deadshot, Clayface, and The Court of Owls.
I'm so happy that you did the batman vs bruce wayne comparison. I think every actor that has played them has had that and it is interesting to see who is better at which part.
Heâll get there at some point
Great film and a great beginning to the trilogy. Christian Bale is my favorite Bruce Wayne/Batman as he really got the different sides to the character down and understood the character. Not that other actors whoâve portrayed the character arenât good, but Bale really went all out for the character and he played the character I wanted to see him played when I was a kid since I saw all the Batman films and shows that were on, from reruns of the old 1966 show with Adam West to the various serious animated shows of the 90s and 2000s. The rest of the cast is perfect in this film from Michael Caine as Alfred, Gary Oldman as Gordon, Morgan Freeman as Fox, Liam Neeson as Ducard/Raâs al Ghul, Cillian Murphy as Scarecrow and Katie Holmes as Rachel Dawes. Everyone in the cast and crew from a big part to small, did an amazing job. I remember seeing this in the theater when it came out and was blown away. With this film, Christopher Nolan started his way to becoming a household name with bigger recognition because of this film and same with Christian Bale. Great reaction to Ashleigh. Have a great weekend and take care!
Thanks you for always be Upbeat. It. Makes my drive Entertainingđ
Never understood why Bruce didn't just tell the party guests there was a gas leak and they all had to go rather than be jerk. Would've been better optics when the mansion burned down too.
Yay! I love that you are starting into these and I agree with you. Michael Keaton, best Bruce Wayne, of the movies you've seen. Christian Bale better Batman!
How is Keaton the best Bruce Wayne when he looks nothing like the character?
@@44excalibur Well, for me it is the nuanced way he separated Bruce from Batman. Almost as if Bruce was the costume and not the Bat suit. I don't know any other way to explain it. Personally, for me it has nothing to do with looks. If it did, then for me there has been no good Bruce Wayne, with the exception of one of the more recent actors, who I'm not naming as I don't want to leave any spoilers for Ashleigh. I'll just say he portrayed a little older version of the character. Then again, this is all my personal opinion. If you disagree that's cool, you are entitled to your opinion.
@@oldbroadwithbaggage5472 Michael Keaton doesn't look like a man who is even physically capable of doing what Bruce Wayne does as Batman. Again, too old, too short, too skinny.
@@44excalibur I can appreciate your stance on this, even if I don't agree. That is the beauty of movies and TV shows, we can all have different opinions and no one is right or wrong, as it is simply an opinion. Have a great rest of your day.
It's called the Dark Knight Trilogy (mainly because the Dark Knight is considered the defining movie of the trilogy but also 2 movies have that in the title). Also LOL in for a treat regarding Joker.
Christopher Nolan got the gig due to the strong showings of his movies Memento, Insomnia, etc. He was a relative indie director prior to this one. He is half-English and half American...as such the town he and his brother grew up in features in this movie and the next one, Chicago.
This origin story is based heavily on the origins for Batman that comic book writer Denis O'Neil gave him from training in the League of Assassins (Shadows) to fighting his mentor Ra's Al-Ghul (the Demon's Head). Lucius Fox (morgan freeman) was also a big character in the comics as Bruce's armorer. Christopher Nolan has a preference of using more grounded, "real" villains.
Funny you mention Star Wars several times with Liam Neeson around, since he was a Jedi in Episode I. The main character.
Rachel is his childhood friend, the daughter of the maid.
Batman was the original gadget guy.
The tumbler is based on a "hummer mixed with a Lambourghini"--According to Nolan....and yes all those stunts were performed on Wacker Drive in Chicago (a 3 level street along the Chicago river). Chicago is notoriously lax with what is allowed on their streets.
Surprised you didn't recognize Gordon since you literally watched the Harry Potter movies last month and in March. LOL
Throwing bats are Batarangs.
Batman doesn't kill. He also doesn't like to use guns.
The Elevated Train thing is a reference to Chicago who are famous for the "El"...which yes, means Elevated Train. New York has the subway. Spider-Man 2 also used Chicago for that scene.
Joe Chill was technically the original villain. But Joker was ONE of the original villains in the comic books after Joe. Batman #1 (which is not the first Batman comic despite the name) featured Joker and Catwoman in their debut.
The next one is arguably the best superhero movie of all time....everything good here goes up by 11 in that one.
I tend to hear it referred to more as the Nolan Trilogy more than Dark Knight Trilogy, but it still works
@@VegetaLF7 I've seen it as both, but a lot of the general audience refers to it more as Dark Knight since they aren't actively involved in it to call it by the director's name. I mostly see it referred to as the Nolan Trilogy when comparing to Burton and Schumacher.
Both work anyway.
"Rachel needs to apologize to Bruce for judging him without full context."
But that's the point. She doesn't have full context. She only has the context Bruce is giving her, and he want's her and everybody else to think he's an irresponsible billionaire playboy so they don't suspect he's Batman. So because she rightly expects better of him she is perfectly within her rights to take him to task for it.
Ashleigh, you got me wondering too, and I had to find out. Turns out the very first villain Batman faced was a guy named Hugo Strange (no relation to Stephen :D ). I know nothing about him, having been brought up on tv shows and movies which have singularly failed to mention him. And now, we can rest in peace with the little goblins in our heads demanding answers.
Hugo Strange has a large part in the Arkham games, particularly Arkham City.
Bruce Wayne's car with the two girls in it is a Lamborghini Murciélago. Murciélago is Spanish for Bat.
Thought all thier cars were named after bulls
omg.. it's the little details.
Lamborghini also served as inspiration for the Tumbler.
@@ingibingi2000 They are but the Bulls names mean something as well. In this case the 1879 Bull that is the namesake of the car also is Spanish for bat.
Any chance for STAR TREK reactions in the near future? đ
I say skip The Motionless Picture. Watch Space Seed then Wrath of Khan (I have the poster in me ManCave next to the screen) and go from there. Could proskip V too. But the rest are great.
Picard S3 is the best sci-fi Iâve seen in years BTW
I would say skip The Motion Picture, but she actually enjoyed 2001 A Space Odyssey, so now I donât know what to thinkâŠ
@@DeltaAssaultGaming 2001 is a different ball of wax. But you have a very valid point. She should see Space Seed though
You have to understand that in the early days of superhero movies, things shuffled around and rebooted, and they had to be safe, bc comic movies were not taken seriously. In terms of Star Wars movies, you basically watched 4 A New Hope, then watched 1 Phantom Menace. You should watch them in order of release. There were four 80s/90s Batman movies, played by 3 actors. The first two are Tim Burton, and are good. Batman Returns is my favorite Batman movie of all time. But he was too dark and adult themed, when the company was trying to sell McDonalds toys. So the whole thing changed completely, and then Batman was played by two different actors. The whole vibe became camp and colorful. THIS TRILOGY, is a reboot. I know you have patrons who have sway, but you should just watch them in order of release. For one, it'll be confusing. Two, you're watching something from like 20 years later. It's apples and oranges.
Before Christian Bale played the role of the Dark Knight, David Boreanaz, Jake Gyllenhaal, Joshua Jackson, Josh Brolin, Heath Ledger, Henry Cavill, Wes Bentley and Cillian Murphy were considered for the role.
Before Liam Neeson was cast as Ra's Al Ghul, Viggo Mortenson, Daniel Day Lewis, and Ben Kingsley were considered.
Rachel McAdams and Emily Blunt were considered for Rachel Dawes
Wolfgang Petersen, JJ Abrams, The Wachowskis, David Fincher, and Darren Aronoffsky were considered for the role of director.
Marilyn Manson, Ewan McGregor, Christopher Eccelston, and Jeremy Davies were considered for the Scarecrow.
I think Josh Brolin would have made a great Batman - but more of a grizzled "Dark Knight Returns" Batman. Also, I was devastated when Bob Hoskins left us before he got to play the Penguin.
I love these Batman movies. Even though they started a horrible trend of superhero movies trying to be realistic, which only really works with a character like Batman đ
You're so sweet and funny đ keep making videos!
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Netflix Daredevil TV series. I know, they are not movies - but they should be at the top of everyone's list for a realistic and dark Superhero journey.
Mystery Men was good. đ
I hope Ashleigh watches that one sometime.
Some comic characters work with the realistic approach. Others don't.
There is also a major difference between dark/edgy and realistic. The Boys is edgy. It is not realistic.
During the blue flower bit all I could think of was âBlue flower. Red thorns. Blue flower. Red thorns. This would be so much easier if I wasnât color blind.â
Fun review as always. Thank you for screening BB in its correct Panavision aspect ratio. And by all means, screen THE DARK KNIGHT!
Who is that man?
He's a man with a very particular set of skills and if you do not release his daughter he will come and he will kill you.
I cannot wait for you to see the second movie, it's legendary.
I saw it 3 times in 4 nights in summer 2008. Christ, was that 15 years ago?! One of my top 3 fav movies of all time.
That is Liam Neeson, and he is also known as quite gone Jin and yes, it was in the Phantom Menace and black light and other movies you might recognize quite gone. Jin also known as Liam Neeson from the Phantom Menace.
With each reboot of Batman they have a different villain, regardless of the original comic book order. The second Christian Bale movie, The Dark Knight is one of the best Batman movies overall - Heath Ledger as the Joker is just amazing. With that said I think you would LOVE the 2nd Michael Keaton Batman movie, Batman Returns. That has the Penguin and Catwomen - you will love it!
Good job Beans! My fave Batman is the 1989 Batman. That "dude" is Liam Nielson, Qui -Gon Jinn, Obi -Wan's master from Star Wars. {Goonies vibes-think Steph, blonde short-haired girl with the bats "RABIES! RABIES!"}
It's interesting how Bruce Wayne and Batman are two distinct characters and so we do have the issue that sometimes we love an actor in one role but not the other. I agree with you that Michael Keaton's Bruce Wayne was better; Christian is lacking something. Also, while I love the Dark Knight trilogy (which they are informally referred to as), it's definitely a case where it's "A good movie that happens to have superheroes in it" rather than "a superhero movie". You'll see what I mean as you move onwards with it.
I'm not sure comic-lore wise who came first, Scarecrow or the Joker. And yes, the Penguin is a Batman villain. :) Cillian Murphy played the Scarecrow in this, and he's SO good at it. You will see him in other Nolan films as well.
On a side note, love Beans! She's so cute. The recent D&D movie (which just dropped to streaming) has a fat dragon in it that will remind you of a chonky cat for sure.
Joker was in the first issue, as far as I can remember. However, no one Iâve met ever knew that Mr. Freeze was Batmanâs first metahuman (superpowered/mutated/inhuman) adversary.
I looked for this type of comment before making my own. I'm making some decently well educated comments with this but having both the characters of Bruce Wayne and Batman be portrayed well is quite the task short of the animated series'. Outside of those the closest we've gotten in having Batman's experience as Bruce Wayne being portrayed well.
@@christophermyles1421 Kevin Conroy's Batman/Bruce Wayne is one of the best! Rest in peace...
19:40 - "What is this bad guy's name, Scarecrow?!"
BAM! Nice job there Ashleigh!! :D
Ashleigh at 22:35 "I clearly didn't realize how cool Batman's tools were." Joker in Batman 89 "Where does he get those wonderful toys!"
The TV show "Gotham" did some interesting takes on other lesser known villians. I particularly liked their Mad Hatter. His trick is hypnosis.
Ya now mentioning mad hatter I would kinda want to see him in Pattersons batman movies I think that would be a good pair
I think the Batman universe that managed to make the lesser known villains the best is the Arkham video games. Taking guys with names and concept as ridiculous as Calander Man and made them interesting.
This is one of the darkest Batman movie ever, except The Batman. It's one of my top 5 favorite Christopher Nolan films.
"Now's not the time to be roasting him"
Said while he's roasting under a burning wooden beam đ
The Joker was the first supervillain in Batman, appearing in Batman #1. He pulled a big gag by saying that a number of people would die by midnight, sending cops into a frenzy, only for them to realise he had set up their deaths hours before.
From the standpoint of the bad guys, Batman is a horror film.
.... you're not wrong.
Rachel isn't being shitty to Bruce, she's being concerning because she has NO idea that he's Batman and she just sees him as a spoiled rich douche who hasn't properly dealt with the death of his parents. She really cares about him and it shows up in some tough love. He deserved to be slapped for being so reckless in going to confront Falcone like that.
Yes, she thinks he's wasting his life as a party animal.
Bruh who in this world dont know bruce is batman
"Dr. Penguin" - You're killing me..! đ«đ
Batman debuted in Detective Comics #27, 1939; the Penguin debuted in Detective Comics #58, 1941, both the Joker and Catwoman debuted in Batman #1, 1940.
Can't wait till you watch Dark Knight