Batman 1989 * FIRST TIME WATCHING * reaction & commentary
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I was 4 years old when this came out, I got the batman logo shaved into the back of my head, it was on the front page of the local newspaper
Your life peaked early :O
OMG FOR REAL
Awesome... movie is slightly older than me.
This came out a year before I was born. My mother saw this in the theater.
It was a huge hit and yeah a lot of kids in school had the Batman symbol shaped into their heads... I wasn't allowed to cuz my parents were party poopers
Ashleigh sees microfiche machine : "What's that?!??"
Me watching: "I am sooo old."
Yeah, but is it a bad thing that microfiche is mostly gone?
I don't miss using those
@@voraciousblackstn Well, it was harder to edit than Wikipedia, so it had the edge in terms of security.
When she said that....it hurt, I had to take a knee lol
@@voraciousblackstn while harder to edit, it is far more stable under the right conditions than any electronic or digital medium. Until we can etch data into crystal film is the best way to store data.
"What about your parents?" Congrats, Ashleigh. You were the absolute last person who didn't know what happened to Bruce Wayne's parents. Now, everyone on Earth has seen them gunned down in that alley, in one form or another.
In 1981 according to Batman V Superman and Joker. Laughed when those movies decided to line up on the timeline.
And where he keeps all his bat stuff
@Vincent Schmitt The North Sentinelese know Batman's origin story. That's why they killed that missionary guy. They hate spoilers.
I watch Batman, read the comics, just to watch Bruce's parents die, over and over.
Just like I watch Breaking Bad, just to watch Jane die
The funny thing is that that opening scene of the family going down the alley and getting mugged, was for people to think that was the Waynes, to start with his origin, but they fooled us. Totally lost on her. Which I love that she doesn't even know the things that most people know even if they've never seen a single movie or read a single comic.
“Is that a computer?” Oh Ashleigh. Hahahaha made my day and reminded me how old I am. Microfiche
Yeah. It felt like space age tech researching the major metropolitan newspapers on microfilm at the university library back in the 1970's.
@@wrybreadspread hahaha!!! I can relate!
That was microfilm, the reel to reel... Microfiche was the ones that you put the individual sheet pieces in the folding glass.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microfilm_reader
Just posted this as well!!!!
"I feel Prince's music could have been cut short"
GAAAAAASP How dare you
I know right.
Now you know, gather 'round, everybody hail the new king in town!
Forgive the child, for she knows not what she does.
😂😂. Right??? Prince is the best thing about this movie, IMO
Ha, Prince was so unbelievably huge at the time, to get him to rock some original songs for the score was an amazing thing to secure. It augmented the movie, and certainly timestamps the film...an interesting time for film, that late 80's through early 90's time period...where studios were still letting artists experiment with large productions.
Fun fact: Jack Nicholson handpicked his best friend Tracy Walter to play Bob. He essentially picked his number 1 guy to be his number 1 guy.
Underrated comment right here. :)
Bob was awesome. Best goon ever. And had what, maybe 3 lines?
@@rume6951 He's a great sidekick... he was also Conan The Barbarian's
Also, Tracy Walter is a badass. One of the most underrated character actors in Hollywood history.
Erin Brockovich owes Tracey a HUGE debt of gratitude. 😉 Tracey was also sufficiently creepy as a mortician in Silence of the Lambs. And hilarious in the “Mummy Daddy” episode of Amazing Stories during the first season in 1985.
*Fun Fact:* When it was announced that Michael Keaton was going to play Bruce Wayne/Batman, thousands of petitions were sent to Warner Brothers to get rid of him, because fans just couldn't see him in the role. But when the movie finally premiered, they realized how great Keaton was, and is now seen as one of the greatest actors to play Batman.
Same thing happens years later with Heath Ledger as Joker
That's because you cast Bruce Wayne. Batman is a forty-pound rubber suit.
And Affleck with Batman.. despite the film being subpar Affleck was an interesting Batman and I was curious to see what he had in store for the character.
Best Batman.
I was skeptical myself. I mean I didn't say it was going to suck or say get rid of him, but I was a huge fan of him from his comedy roles. I thought it was an odd choice, but was going to give it a chance.
Ashleigh : "I don't know how Batman became Batman"
Every Batman film/TV series ever : "We got you"
Except Adam Wests Batman Series too Dark never talked about
Except the bruce timm animated series. And the Adam West. And the cartoon called "the Batman". And the very first BATMAN CARTOON.
So, there's quite a lot.
@@jeffreymiller6847 : And the cartoon called "the Batman". And the very first BATMAN CARTOON.
@@jeffreymiller6847 Actually it WAS mentioned, once, in the very first episode of the Adam West TV show.
"What about your parents?"
😬
Seriously, it's delightful to see someone actually encountering Batman for the first time with a totally clean slate.
This wasn’t a movie, it was a phenomenon. People went Bat crazy. Every third person was wearing a Batman shirt. People were shaving the logo into their heads. It was pretty insane.
Yes agreed!
You couldn't walk 30 feet without seeing someone in Batman paraphernalia
I remember the Batman cereal. Good times.
It was a hell of a time to be alive
I was always a Batman fanboy anyway but when Batmania hit in '89 it went into overdrive. I was in Batvana.
I didn't know it was possible to go through life, become an adult and not know Batman's origin story.
Well... here’s Ashleigh...
She probably hasn’t even played through any of the Arkham games - unbelievable!! :p
specially when every batman movie shows bruce's parents getting killed lmao
Cue meme: "My Parents are DEAD!!!!!"
@@beneficent2557 Or the other meme, "Family Dinner" - Batman at a table alone.
"Can Batman really fly or is he just really good at jumping?" - Ashley. He isn't flying he is "falling, with style".
"Jack Nicholson is the Joker?"
Have you been locked inside that room all your life?
Are you a hostage? Blink once for yes and three times for no
Some people just don't know certain areas of film. I forgot he played him for quite a while.
Did you blink?? 😉😉
Cesar Romero. Accept no substitutes. :)
@@MarkMcLT - White makeup on top of the moustache. 💄
Most of these 'reactions' are fake. Hasn't anyone noticed its the same movies in every reaction channel? They've seen most of these movies before. I still enjoy watching this lady's videos though.
Ashleigh must be the only person on the entire planet that has not seen Batman's origin story 17 times already.
I was thinking the same thing, how could she not know about that?!
Does that mean she doesn’t know about Uncle Ben
@@FromRussiaWithLuv007 well she probably doesn't eat much rice.
Yeah, but it's not everyone's cup of tea. I must be the only person in fandom that wasn't a fan of Burton's Batman. I didn't like the casting of Keaton or Nicholson. I know it fit that movie, but I always preferred that a nameless stranger with a gun killed Thomas and Martha Wayne.
@@macmcleod1188 😆 BOOOOO!!!! Go home Dad!!! 😆
I feel like Ashleigh needs a Podcast called, 'After The Credits' where she sits down to talk with a super fan of the movie to help fill in some of the gaps. In this case, there is so much about the Batman mythos that could be talked about without spoiling any future movies. It would just give her better footing for future Batman movies as well as provide a more in-depth "Let's Talk About It" segment.
I second this!!! Maybe the top tier request can be the guest??!!
Yes
I love this idea!!!!
That is such a fun idea!!!!
I am for it
"They wrapped this up nicely. How can DC keep this going?"
Because they have a smorgasbord of Batman villains at their disposal to do as many movies as they want.
The only other superhero to compete with him in the enormous rogues gallery is Spider-Man, also both are constantly rebooted every few years. Also Bruce Wayne's parents against Peter Parker's uncle.
"That's not a computer."
It is a microfiche (pronounced "micro-fish") projector. Before digital copies and cloud storage, microfiche was the way archivists and libraries kept copies of old documents (especially newspapers and books too fragile for public reading). I actually remember using it for my college work as late as 2002.
Thank you ashley for "hearting" my commment.
I'm still using microfiche as part of my job with court records. I'm 32 and known about/used microfiche ever since I was a kid. I've actually been surprised there are people I work with older than me that aren't aware of it.
"Nah, that'll be stupid, she is a journalist"
I think every Superman fan just choked on their tea 🤣🤣🤣🤣
And also, a little bit later in the movie. Oh hi Alfred, thanks for escorting her directly to the Batcave!
@@commonsensecraziness7595 LMFAO Omg! right!?! Lol
@@commonsensecraziness7595 Yup. Michael Gogh was a great choice as Alfred, but damn, that man LOVED to give unauthorized Batcave tours. :D
There's a whole generation of us watching this with you who can hear the Danny Elfman score perfectly in our heads even though you had to mute it.
100% truth!
Danny Elfman and Tim Burton are a fabulous duo!!!!!
@@korie4198 And Danny Elfman's wife is Bridget Fonda
@@dannytse8767 and his daughter-in-law is Jenna Elfman :^)
With a few tracks by Prince as well. . . like in the museum, and during the parade.
I love that you immediately picked up on the fact that Keaton's bat-suit didn't allow him to move his head at all. Apparently, all the rubber around his ears also made him completely deaf on set so it must've been a spectacularly uncomfortable shoot.
Danny Elfman's score he composed for this film is just downright AWESOME.
Ashleigh: "Is that a computer?"
Me: Feels instantly old.
Ikr 🧓🏼
So so very old.
16:33
I literally paused the video and put my head in my hands. Libraries are dead. :(
Seriously…
"Why did he just karate chop the trunk of his car?" Spoken like someone who has never owned an old, crappy car that sometimes needs to be hit to get it to work...
A kinky car. Likes to be slapped.
Ha! I was going to say this was normal in the 80's.
In fact I drive an 86 Chevy, to open the hood you have to pull the release lever, then smack it just right and in the right spot and it pops right open. Of course cars back then could take a good thumping and not crumble like a beer can, or worse crack like an egg shell.
Someone beat me to my comment ... owning a P.O.S. car should be a rite of passage
@Helix Nebula Eeeeehhh I got that! XD
Percussive maintenance
"Why does Bruce Wayne have such a big house? (...) What does he do?" He's effing rich!
What I appreciate about this version is Tim Burtons art deco dark noir style for Gotham. The city feels like a character in its own right, which feels appropriate for Batman
Anton Furst’s.
"Why does he have a guy holding a boom box?"
Because it was the '80's
Qapla'!
Because they play "PartyMan" by Prince
That was the "thing" to do in the 1980's!!! :)
Cause it was 1989 and it takes several years for these things to go from street to pop culture trope.
EVERY QUESTION:
ANSWER: 1980's
Microfiche reader : *minding business*
Ashleigh : THATS NOT A COMPUTER!
Microfiche reader : *single tear* I know....
I feel SO old.....
To be fair, do ANY Millennials know what a microfiche reader is and what it was used for?
@@commonsensecraziness7595 yes. I'm a millennial in the original sense (born in 1980 and graduated in 99) and I used microfiche a ton in libraries and school during elementary and middleschool.
@@commonsensecraziness7595 I used them, I'm 38, I think I'm technically barely a millennial.
@@commonsensecraziness7595 I do I used one in middle school
"Is Jack Nicholson gonna be the Joker.". He's been the Joker his entire career. lol
Even in Little Shop of Horrors.
Truer words have never been spoken.
The drawing on Knox’s desk of “Batman” was signed by Bob Kane the creator of Batman. The Joker has many different origin stories depending on the storyline.
Bill Finger. Bob Kane took ALL the credit.
More like depending on the Joker's mood XD
@@fynnthefox9078 Bill Finger is just a writer who came on after Bob Kane invented the character.
@@redrick8900 Bob Kane's idea for Batman was much different compared to what we know him as today. And all that we know him as was the brainchild of Bill Finger.
@@fynnthefox9078 Wrong. Kane created batman. Finger did a little tinkering on him that's not even 10% of the stuff tacked onto him since Kane created him. Finger didn't do crap.
I love how when Michael Keaton yells "Come on... Let's get nuts" you can here the Beetlejuice voice coming out.
Totally!!!
Legit shocked that neither Planters nor Blue Diamond has used the slogan "you wanna get nuts? Come on, let's get nuts!" yet.
Same. I think it everytime I see this
speaking of which..I can't recall.. has Ashleigh seen Beetlejuice?
Every time I hear it that’s all I can think about lol.
"Why does he have a boombox guy?" It was the 80s, Ashleigh. Not just the 80s but 1989 peak 80s. Had to have a boombox guy.
Boombox Guy was how Joker crafted his world in an artistic way: he added BG music like the world was a TV or Movie production starring and directed by Joker
Me: Why not?
Just wait until Ashligh watches " Megamind". Now that's a boom box scene. I'm an idiot, how could I forget John Cusack in "say anything".
Plus "Boom Box Guy" was providing the romantic music the Joker wants for the proper atmosphere of the dinner date he has planned.
@@undercoverasiant696 any chance for breakin' 2: electric boogaloo 😏🧹📻
This is probably the most honest to god genuine reaction to Batman I’ve ever seen. The moment you said you didn’t realize Jack Nicholson was in this I was like “oh man, you’re in for a treat” lol
"that's an unfortunate costume design".... just you wait 🤣
Not knowing Batman's backstory through cultural osmosis... Ashleigh is so spectacularly innocent.
But also spectacularly astute. She always asks the right questions!
I mean with all the references and countless versions of his parents in pop culture . How could nobody know Batman’s origin?
I just realized when she gets to Civil War in the MCU she is going to have no clue about Peter Parker’s back story.
@@tcshack701 my spider sense is tingling
@@missmartylynn Ashleigh: “is Jack Nicholson gonna be the Joker?!”
YES, MA’AM!
"I don't know how Batman became Batman..."
Oh... don't you worry. They will make sure to explain it in every single Batman movie.
I feel like it's always fun to explain the Batman mythos to someone who's never heard of Batman.
And in WATCHMEN (2009) they explain how he didn't. :D
“I’m glad I watched the original Batman.”
Adam West would like a word.
He can't, because Lewis G. Wilson is talking to him right now.
And Robert Lowery has just entered the chat.
I saw this in the theaters when it came out. It was such a huge hit. It really was a cultural phenomena. There wouldn't be any MCU if movies like this and Superman hadn't been such huge hits.
I wouldn't go that far. The poor performance of Batman Forever (1995) and Batman and Robin (1997) nearly killed the comic book adaptation movie business. What really saved it and allowed further comic book movies to be made was the success of Blade in 1998.
@@Kiernan5 actually Batman Forever did very well financially at the box office. It made more money than Batman Returns.
Apparently you have no idea what you are talking about bc Batman forever was a huge hit,it was even bigger than Batman returns
All narrative intellectual property becomes movies eventually. Comic book movies are bigger now than they were then because special effects have caught up to them.
“I finally watched the original Batman! It was cheesy in some parts...”
Two words. Adam West.
Adam West is Batman Best.
I met him at comic con
Some days you just can't get rid of a bomb
@@Justanotherconsumer Lego Batman is Best Batman. Adam West is Second Best.
@@andrewrawlings5220 What about Lego Adam West?
No criticism, we all have different lives and influences but genuinely in 48 years that's the first time I've heard anyone say What about Batman's parents. Pure gold.
Ashleigh is a precious jewel!
Hahahaha
Joker telling his guy to leave that one, somewhat disturbing, painting alone was a nice psychological depiction.
It's mind-blowing to me that this movie was your first Batman experience in life
I cried when Ashleigh said that Michael Keaton could not get it.
Battlejuice! Battlejuice! Battlejuice!
same.
i think if she seen him now . he may ! cause he got better looking with age . much like RDJ went From Baby face To Iron man
Ikr the disrespect 😔
"Why is there a guy that just holds a boombox."
You gotta understand how ridiculous that sounds being born and raised in the Bronx, 1983
I'll grab the cardboard.
Canarsie Brooklyn relates highly.
I wouldn't have to get too ridiculously rich before I'd hire someone following me around holding a boombox. Every action I take would have its own soundtrack!
@@donkfail1 I mean, that’s pretty much what the music app on your phone is for
@@PromotedPawn You're not wrong. But having a huge guy with an enormous boombox just standing by is more impressive. And ridiculous in a funny way.
Literally watched my VHS of this movie until it disintegrated
"Actually, Alfred is my family."
Ashleigh: "What about your parents?"
...............................Yeah, about that...
Batman: "Actually, Alfred is my family."
Ashleigh: "What about your parents?"
Ohmigod, this video is ammmaaaaaaazing!!!
bahhaha
They call out the suit design in the Dark Knight movies when they specifically talk about being able to move his head at one point.
*Multiplicity* is a super underrated comedy starring Michael Keaton and Andie MacDowell. I think you would really enjoy it.
Kim Basinger and Dan Aykroyd starred in the hilarious comedy My Stepmother is an Alien, one of my favorite childhood movies.
Ashleigh: *"I don't know how Batman becomes Batman..."*
Me: *sighs "Don't worry....by the time you're done with this series you will, soooooo much!"*
How many times have we seen a broken string of pearls bouncing in a dirty alley, in slow motion?
@@piercedviking8058 About as many as there are Batman films 🤣
Keaton's bat-turn because he couldn't move his head is absolutely legendary
Yup! There's even a little dig at it in Batman Begins or The Dark Knight (I don't remember which) where Bruce Wayne asks Fox if he could change the cowl so he could turn his head.
The stiffness of the rubber suit was a running joke for years.
They didn't change it until Bale.
To also clarify; Bat-turn by choice or Bat-turn by design; It's very much part of the character. He's very dramatic so it fits
@@ike789125 It's funny because it was always just his thing.. I never even thought about it until they changed it.
Love Michael Keaton as Batman! He was fantastic!
It's refreshing watching reactions to movies like this around here. Sometimes it's hard to remember, hey, some people don't know what Batman's powers are. Some people don't know what his origin is. Some people don't know what the butler's name is. And that's okay, because the fun is in the discovery.
what powers? being favored by Barbatos?
"This is why he attacked the people in the alley! Er...I mean served justice to the people in the alley!"
And once again Ash unknowingly sums up an entire franchise in two seconds.
"Paid respects" to the people in the alley?
yep!!
Yeah, it was to promote Prince!
when you're a movie studio & you pay for Prince's music, you damn sure play the whole thing.
LOL, facts.
Except they played only six of the nine songs from the soundtrack.
@@earthien They only have to pay for the ones they use, but the cost is the same if they only use 10 seconds or if they play the whole thing repeatedly.
I watched this so many times as a kid, I literally memorized every sound and wore out the VHS. Same with TMNT 1990.
This is back when villains always lived to fight another day. So killing the Joker was a huge shock and bold move.
When Ashleigh asked "What about your parents?" I think Batman cried :)
RIP.
I know LMAO
I chocked on my water
@@awkwardashleigh This are why we end up having to watch Thomas and Martha Wayne die in every film. I've personally see them die no less than a dozen times.
Not too soon! 🤣🤣
Michael Keaton played Beetlejuice, not to bring up a sore subject. lol
WAIT.. WHAT.. YOURE KIDDING.
Michael Keaton has range.
Same director as that movie too. Not sure if that was mentioned.
@@MacGuffinExMachina The casting of Keaton as Batman got laughed at because until then Keaton was known as a comedy actor. Nobody's laughing anymore.
@@awkwardashleigh He also played the Vulture in Spider-Man Homecoming
@@awkwardashleigh Back then the public couldn't see him as batman when they announced it because he was doing comedy and assumed he couldn't show range, this role surprised everyone. And yes he was Beetlejuice, the difference between both films is astonishing. And they both had the same director: TIM BURTON!
Jack Nicholson has said the Joker was his most favourite part to play. He also demanded a portion of the profits from the film ending up taking home $90million and STILL takes a cut every time the movie is shown
Superman (1978) starring Christopher Reeves was actually the 1st DC movie that put comic book movies on the map in a big way. Batman followed it up a decade later and knocked people's socks off.
"YOU WANNA GET NUTS!!! COME ON! LET'S GET NUTS!"
Michael Keaton's Beetlejuice voice makes a cameo.
"Is that a computer?"
The fact that I know that's a microfiche machine and how to use it, hurts my soul...
Realization of age does hurt.
Don't feel bad, my first car had a 8-track player I replaced with the 'new' cassette player.
Later a CD player.
Then a iPod
Then my phone.
Now my car knows when I've stepped in with my phone and configures itself...
Now I feel ancient . . .
I used microfiche machines to do research for my college papers.
Ditto!
Get off my lawn -me aged 37
I remember seeing the microfiche for the first time when I was in college and thinking, "Wow! how neat!" Before Microfiche, newspapers would bind their daily editions (or at least the front pages) in huge binders...I did research for high school papers by hauling down 50 pounds of dated books of The Houston Chronicle and looking up stuff dating back to the 1930's.
"why does he have a boombox guy?'
well, it's the 80's....
It took like 2 hours to ge Nicholson into his makeup. The makeup wasn't really an issue.
The acid shooting flower on his lapel gave Nicholson scars... but he still said that playing the Joker was the most fun he ever had on a film set.. especially the parade scene (he invited ALL of his friends to be in the crowd). He also got a percentage of not only the box office, but all merchandising for anything Batman related thru the mid 1990's.
That little scene were Bruce goes to Vicki's apartment and gets shot by the Joker was actually added by request of Micheal Keaton. He really wanted to act opposite Jack Nicholson, but all of their scenes together had Batman in full suit, so he asked to have a scene were Bruce meets the Joker outside of costume.
Good piece of trivia!
Near certain it was in the original screenplay... The scene was longer and had Joker kidnap Vicki after he shot bruce to attend the unveiling of a statue in Gotham Square (which turned out to be a Joker statue). Bruce follows the Joker, Vicki and his goons on horseback to save her. I believe in one draft Dick Grayson (Robin) was in this deleted scene and the Joker kills his parents...
@@shamrockballs1066 The scene was not even filmed. It was storyboarded. They even got TAS voice actors to voice the scene on the dvd/Blu ray.
@@brucechmiel7964 Yes, that's right, a version of it also exists in the novelization, which are usually based on early versions of the script. And production did produce a statue of the Joker, but as you say it was never filmed. You can even hear the news anchors in one scene mention the unveiling of the statue.
@El Vato yes on horseback 😂 it's been a while since I watched the animated story board as pointed out above, but I did read the novelization again recently. From what I remember :
Bruce is wearing his utility belt under his shirt and thats what saves him. From Jokers bullet.
Joker takes Vicki hostage and they get into a van
Bruce radios alfred to bring his batsuit, he persuses on horseback
Joker gets to the unveiling and highjacks it. Batman shows up and Joker takes the mayor hostage so that he can escape. I think his goons start gunning people down also.
I'm glad this was left out also, it sounds too ridiculous and all took place during the day. Tbh even in the movie I don't particularly like that scene in the apartment. It lags for me, possibly because it is during the day, but it is an important scene I suppose and I like the Alicia mask part.
That big “computer” is a microfiche reader. It’s how libraries archived newspapers in the old days.
"in the old days" 😔🧓 [feels old]
This was microfilm, not microfiche, you can see the reel on the bottom right.
Microfiche is made of individual slides.
Damn I’m old.
@@SierraSierraFoxtrot ah. Good. I called it Microfilm, but everyone else was calling it fiche. I was afraid I'd misidentified the micro periodical reader
Here's a fun fact for you: the big factory where Joker ends up in the chemical goo, was the old set used a few years earlier for the Atmosphere Processing building in Aliens (1986) - the one that housed the Alien nest. It was originally an old power station in the UK, and most of the Alien nest was still there when they began making Batman.
It's important to note that at the time of this movie's release, comic book movies were not a thing at all, nor was there much experience in the film industry on how to make a super-hero movie(what tone do we shoot for? who is our target audience? how do we build the proper suit? etc). In addition, this movie definitely has the Tim Burton feel(dark and a bit weird) without being too much Tim Burton, probably because he was still an up-and-comer in the industry, and thats probably why they let him direct this movie as well. On top of all that, the corporate side of development was unsure if this movie would even come close to being a success, and had little faith in the end product. As it turns out, this Batman was a HUGE success and started a chain of events which led to many other movies being made.
My friends and I went to a local Comic Con a few times as the Joker and his Goons. I went as Bob. We had a boom boombox playing the Prince soundtrack and gave out sweets and balloons to all the people waiting to get inside. We were a big hit.
"you know this was made in the 80's when you can smell the hairspray through the screen"
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hope nobody lights a match in the area
Ashleigh has not be recommended enough 80's movies showing women wearing outfits designed with those huge shoulder pads.
And they had sex on the first date -
before the actual date!
Although I love this movie so much, when it comes to DC, personally I would’ve started you with the first Christopher Reeve Superman movie. Idc what anyone says, not only is it the best superhero movie, it’s one of the best movies ever made.
The line ive quoted forever after this movie... THIS TOWN NEEDS A ENEMA!
"Once you see death you're not scared of it anymore"
Can we get a supercut of Ashleigh saying hard ass shit like this?
No, not yet. She needs to watch Platoon first...
Platoon is total bullshit
@@cyclone8974 nah, say what you will about Oliver Stone, but Platoon is the best Vietnam movie.
Now Hamburger Hill is bullshit.
@Kristopher Chavez Apocalypse Now is great, but it's more of an existential fantasy set against the backdrop of the Vietnam war. If you want something that's really aiming to show you what the war was actually like in a realistic sense, you want Platoon.
Also I suspect Ashleigh would hate Apocalipse Now, and write off Copolla altogether before she even got the chance to discover the subtle pleasures of The Conversation.
And Saving Private Ryan.
@Kristopher Chavez I know, I was speaking to the realism and horrific aspects of war and her aversion to such drama.
Before this movie, Batman was known for its campiness from the Batman tv show. Burton brought the dark and gritty Batman to the screen
And yet, still very campy. I love the combo.
@@GillDawe Its funny cause looking at it now, you can definitely feel how campy it actually is, but when it came out everybody praised it for how dark and adult it was. I was 16 when this came out and I loved it then and still do today.
And long before that he was The Dark Knight.
For the joker wiping his “skin tone makeup” off, they just put white face paint on the handkerchief and Jack Nicholson wiped it on his forehead
Thank you Ashleigh for your reactions. I love how you always stand your ground with your opinions no matter if they line up with the popular ones. You always have your reasons and I think I would enjoy being on opposite sides of a debate with you, you'd make it a constructive one. Stay awesome
In all these years, I never noticed that Batman couldn't move his neck. Now, I can't unsee it. 🤣
I have huge respect for every actors who play roles where they need to wear costumes like that for months. I think it was Christian Bale who said his cowl was giving him headaches and he used that to bring out the anger in his performance. The one I heard that was the most terrible was Peter Weller in his Robocop costume. The movie was filmed in Dallas in 1986 where they had some 85-90 degree days. He was losing 3 pounds per day from dehydration that he had to gain back at night.
That observation comes back in the Christian Bale version.
Oh yeah, that was Keaton's worst if not only complaint, the not being able to move his head at all. That carried on to all the others who played Batman, even thought the mobility got better, it was still a problem with every design.
@@chamoo232 The worst I know of is the cast of The Wizard of Oz. The Tin Man's costume is made of sheet metal, and the Cowardly Lion's is 90lbs of genuine lion's fur. Shooting 16 hours a day in 100+ degree temps (due to the massive amounts of lighting).
@Semper Vigilio
The guy who played Godzilla (and various other Toho monsters) from 1954 to the early 1970's passed out from heat exhaustion during production of the 1st
Godzilla film and would sweat off 20lbs of weight every film.
Watching batman " Alfred is my family."
Ashleigh: "What about your parents?"
That is... that is just something. Never change, Ashleigh.
"DON'T BRING IT UP!"
I know. It's like, "So wait. . . the phrase 'Run, Forrest, Run' came from this Forrest Gump movie?!?" ;^)
I think the whole point of the series is she changes.
This movie is from 1989. Most houses did not have even one computer in them. I believe my husband and I got our first computer in 1993-1994. It was a 386x and had to be booted up using floppy discs. We didn't get to the point that we had more than one computer in the house until the early 2000s.
This role was a major breakthrough for Michael Keaton and established him as an actual dramatic lead whereas previously he'd been cast in more comedic roles.
Ok, I love that you picked up on Knox opening his trunk by banging on the hood. This is a character thing that they used to do in movies a lot & it's always stuck with me as just a beautifully efficient way to communicate character to the audience. One thing about action movies from the 80s & 90s is that they are incredibly well paced, the screenplays are always extremely efficient. One of the techniques, or shorthands they would use would be something like this where a character opens or activates something in a non-standard way, a way that you could only have known if that object belonged to you. In that one small scene we see that Knox must have had this busted ass car for ages in order to know exactly where to hit the trunk to open it. We can infer that his shitty car is because he's never made much money as a journalist but what does Knox do when there is literal money flying about all over the place ? He tries to help. He doesn't try & grab money and WE'VE SEEN HIS CAR, HE COULD USE THE MONEY, he gets his bat (he gets a bat, he's "Batman", get it ?) & tries to help. Knox is a good guy & we get that communicated effectively & efficiently in 8 seconds of screentime.
If there's one Tim Burton movie you absolutely must see, it's "Edward Scissorhands". As weird as Tim Burton's movies get but also funny and heartbreaking in equal measure. I watch it every Christmas.
Scissorhands is the most Tim Burtoniest Tim Burton Movie (Nightmare Before Christmas is a close second). But what makes ES so Burton is that it's not based on any existing thing, just inspired by all the things Burton loves, so it's just his own thing. Even NBC is Burtons 'version' of some holidays.
Batman '89 is a good all around introduction to Batman, but it's very much Burton's version of Batman.
Batman Returns is... Burton's version of a movie he would make after he is finished filming a Batman movie and the costumes and sets are left over so he films a bunch of crazy crap with them in it.
Please let Batman '66 be your introduction to the Penguin and not Batman Returns, haha.
it's so funny that she didn't connect this to "Beetlejuice", same director and star! Probably a good thing!
maybe that and BIG FISH ?
@@FluxNomad678 I was surprised about how much I loved “Big Fish.” It is a beautiful movie.
Michael Keaton stars in an MCU Spiderman movie with Tom Holland. It was said that Keaton would sneak up behind Holland occasionally and whisper, "I'm Batman!"
12:39 Jack Nicholson is actually allergic to spirit gum. Mad respect to the makeup department for having to create the Joker’s look without the bread-and-butter of special effects makeup.
The whole theater jumped up and cheered at the moon scene. Those where good times.
Yet Ashleigh didn't even show that. I was surprised and disappointed.
If you recall, there were two Batman soundtracks.. there was the one with all the Prince music (Batdance, and the others), but there was also a Batman Score album, (I believe by Danny Elfman). The moon scene is the cover of the Score album..
it's not a scene, it's one shot. i'm sure she thought it was cool.
@@kyleg1464 (eyeroll)
"Batman can't move his head!" Good eye! It drove Keaton crazy.
I don't know if Keaton's ever seen The Dark Knight, but if so, he must've been cursing under his breath when he saw Christian Bale's improved Batsuit. "Dammit, where was Lucius Fox when I couldn't turn my head?!"
@@gspendlove "improved bat suit" what a laugh!
@@OhanaLulu I personally like the redesigned batsuit. :D
I can't recall noticing back then but it's funny now. Shoulda been tweaked.
Good eye? Even back then when i first saw it in the early 90s, it made me feel uncomfortable.
It look justs stupid.
Batman's costume was made of pretty new material for a superhero costume back in 1989. They've perfected it since for him to move his head. Before that it was tights. You gotta crawl before you can walk.
This was when the infamous Bat-Turn was made. In the Batwing his intention was to get the balloons away faster to save the citizens. His ears are actually cut a little shorter, cause it would constantly get clipped when he would get in the Batmobile. Michael Keaton was actually claustrophobic during both films, because of the way the suit was made,the cowl being attached to the suit so it was hard to turn and hard to hear. But in a interview he said that helped him be a better actor. Bruce made a promise that he would avenge the death of his parents, and one day he saw a bat and he knew then thats what he needed to become to strike fear. Michael Keaton then made Batman Returns with the Penguin and Catwoman. After that film comes the god awful Batman Forever and Batman and Robin.
Jack Palance who played the Joker's boss was quite a famous film star back in the 50s and 60s usually appearing in westerns and usually playing the baddie.
She should watch City Slickers, with Palance and Billy Crystal
R.I.P. jACK Palance!
@@SuprousOxide but not cs2
Well known for hosting "Ripley's Believe it or Not" in the 80's, and then the push ups at the Oscars, and Billy Crystal taking it and just cracking jokes about Jack the whole night..
When Ashleigh didn't recognise him I felt pain.
"Jack Nicholson always plays crazy characters"
Pretty sure he's just playing Jack Nicholson
Nick Cage is the new Jack Nicholson
In King of Marvin Gardens he plays the sane person, and Bruce Dern is the crazy one.
I mean, there's a reason why he was cast to play the Joker.
Exactly.
Nicholson also made $67 million for this part, which is extra crazy money in 1989.
Fun fact: at the base of the church when Joker uses the radio to call the helicopter and tell them to give him 5 minutes... better make it 10... just about 10 minutes later you hear the helicopter.
When Joker says "He's been using brand X." I'm like 'Dude needs to stay off from Twitter."
Seriously though i actually got to see Batman Returns at my local odeon cinema last Christmas and Batman 89 at my local Cineworld on Batman day this year. I can tell you the big screen experience is just AWESOME!!!
"He killed Bob!"
RIP Bob, best damn Goon a villain could've asked for....until the end
Speaking of Bob...
REPO MAN!
Boba Fett: Am I a joke to you?
What about Bob?
I think his action figure was labeled "Bob the goon"
This came out while I was in Navy basic at Great Lakes outside Chicago. For those of you who don't know the guy who handed the actor the drawing of the bat wearing the suit is the actual Batman Creator himself Bob Kane. The movie showed how Bruce Wayne became Batman at the very beginning.
Nope, Bob Kane wasn't in any Batman movie.
I can't believe she didn't realize that Batman and Beetlejuice were played by the same actor
I like how you kept laughing at how Batman's costume didn't let him move his head, and it'll be 5 more movies and 3 more actor swaps before he finally gets a costume that lets him. As for how DC keeps going, they didn't really have a continuous universe like the (modern) Marvel films back in the day, so whenever they changed producers or directors they would occasionally reboot everything. So every Batman, every Joker, every Alfred, every character you see in the films get reinterpreted every couple of movies or so, and their origin stories and characterizations differ. If you want to see a Batman origin movie, Christopher Nolan's Batman Begins (and subsequent trilogy) is a good one.
Fun thing about this, Kevin Smith's Superman Lives script is a sequel to this movie, Michael Keaton's Batman would have still been going, and spoke at the funeral!
Or you could just go backwards one movie to Adam West in Batman: The Movie (1966). Head - turns. Ears - shorter. Problems solved :-)
Not a big DC comics fan but I always thought the costume was a choice that created imagery that reflected the comic.
Didn't the costume get a set of "nips" before it got a movable head?
And I don't think Joker died in the comics, did he?
Ashleigh: “How do they keep making DC movies? They wrapped it up so nicely.”
Any comic ever: “Hold my beer….”
One of my favorite Batman films growing up, especially the soundtrack as well featuring Prince RIP
Yes. Prince's music was purposefully prominently featured in this film. Lots of films in the 80s and 90s had MTV aesthetics: segments that looked like music videos with loud pop music, fast editing, glossy atmosphere, and playful camerawork. Think like the beginning of Top Gun and the dancing scene in The Breakfast Club. -- Interesting fact about this movie: Tim Burton originally wanted Michael Jackson to write more soulful, slow ballad music for Bruce and Vicki Vale.
I saw this in the theatre, it was such a fun time. And it was the movie that influenced the awesome Batman: The Animated Series.
@@JaxFPrime81 Batman Returns and The Animated Series were released in the same year, so I'd wager that it was the first film that started the ball rolling. Either way, the series quite possibly outshone what spawned it.
I also saw it in the theater, on opening weekend June 19 1989. I was in high school
I first saw this movie at the drive-in theatre. I must have been 8 years old. By the time I was old enough to drive, those were all but gone.
@@Uncultured_Barbarian465 it was sort of meant as an accompaniment. That's why the Penguin uses Batman Returns design for the first few seasons before returning him to his comic/60's appearance.
Keaton crosses over to Marvel and plays the villan in the 2017 Spider-Man: Homecoming. There are a few roles in his career where I'm betting Michael Keaton could get it. 🤫
Right? He could get it!
Actors that do DC should NOT cross over to do Marvel, and actors that do Marvel should Not cross over to DC.
@@danielbourland1698 When it's been 30 years since you played that character and they used 4 other actors to portray your character since, it's fair game.
@@danielbourland1698 Why? If that was the case we wouldn't have gotten Zachary Levy as Shazam, and he nailed it.
There's no rational reason to take this stance. Its just more of that silly "Marvel VS DC" mindset, which is every bit as childish as "Star Wars VS Star Trek". You don't need to tear something else down just to prop something else up.
There's also Michelle Pfeiffer who was Catwoman in Batman Returns showing up in the MCU.