HOLDEN Maloo GTS-R (2017) V8 Aussie Muscle's Last Hurrah
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- čas přidán 25. 01. 2024
- Just as Holden closed its doors for the last time it produced its fastest, best, most expensive cars. The legendary HSV GTS-R in sedan, ute, and the legendary GTS-R W1.
Here's our review of the HSV GTS-R Maloo Ute, a much classier and better car than the original Maloo of twenty years earlier.
Special thanks to Frazer and Jane for the use of their lovely car.
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An old bloke in my building has one of these he told me it has 890HP and get to 290-300km/h real quick. I just went along with it, good on him.
It probably does.. and it probably can..
RIP Holden, you are sorely missed even in NZ, some great cars came from over the ditch
Really looking forward to an Aussie Falcon review too, can't beat the Falcon - Commodore clashes on the track
I'm just a bogan from the US and I love my Pontiac G8 GT (Holden Commodore)!
Glad you’re enjoying your Pontiac and thanks for the comment
The death of Holden is a true tragedy. The biggest tragedy is I can't afford a Maloo so had to settle for the American Stang. But if you're ever near Adelaide pop into the National Motor Museum. A fantastic Holden display and tribute in there, well worth the $25 entry.
One other thing from the video is that Holden themselves understood the market change better than made out. They wanted to move into the SUV market, but were told by GM head office that they were not allowed. They build big sedans / wagons / passenger utilities and that's it. The Adventra was an attempt to get something out there to compete, without upsetting GM. Holden asked for access to RHD versions of the USA made SUV, since they weren't allowed to build their own. They were also told no. So, their hands were tied.
Part of their survival was pinned on the export of cars to the overseas markets, since Holden was the only one producing a large sedan by this time. This included the USA bound VE Commodore as the Pontiac G6 and G8. Holden wanted to also send utes but were told no by GM. Then the GFC hit which really held back sales. GM then killed off Pontiac. The VF sedan (no ute allowed still) then went in as the Chevrolet SS. Not that anyone knew, GM completed hardly any marketing for this car.Thus, very low sales. Oh, there was also the Government only Caprice. However, the US auto unions really started to fire up about Australian imports then.
To some, it felt like GM never really wanted Holden to succeed. There's many examples over the years of GM holding Holden back. However, at least they were allowed to export cars. Ford Australia were not even given that opportunity. They were keen to share the Territory and Falcon with other markets too. I think if Holden and Ford were able to get exports going like Toyota were, with Holden building a shared platform SUV (like the Territory) it may have been a different story. Its all history now.
That's a really interesting insight James. Thanks for sharing. Fascinating stuff.
@@inCARnationAustralia No problem. It's all information I've heard from knowledgeable sources including ex Holden employees.
Ford Australia sent the Territory to the USA for evaluation. The Ford executives even admitted it was better than anything Ford was making in America at that time but still would not allow Ford Oz to send them to the states.
What hindered Holden exports was the fact Australia's dollar was so high after the GFC. It became unprofitable for the middle eastern countries to import Holden's as the imports cost them so much and there went Holden's main export market.
You are right in saying that GM held Holden back. Holden done a lot of engineering work on developing a Saab turbo 4 cylinder engine powered VP commodore for the Asian market but that idea was knocked on the head by GM.
I thought it was just me with the A-pillar lack of vision 😂
Yes it’s not something I find to be to much of a problem in most cars, but was quite obstructive in this car
As an Englishman I own a 2005 Holden Monaro CV8 which is immaculate and low miles @65k. I used to own a 1999 VT SS (same LS1) and as a saloon car it was epic. I also own a 1962 Ford Fairlane with a SBF which was a contender against Holden in Bathurst, so a big follower of Australian cars. Sadly they all have to go due to a house extension but I will be replacing the Holden not the Ford. Great video guys nice to see your team back together again with Mark. What channel gives you the best of old school and new? Looking forwards to the next one.
*I'd never let my cars go for a house extension. I 💯% believe you are doing this because "the wife" said so. If my wife told me to part with my cars, I would "PART" ways with the wife.💯 If this is the case it's completely not ok on her part. Houses can be fixed, replaced, extensions etc,but those cars that "sadly have to go" would never happen in my household and my wife knows this. I would rather borrow money off the mortgage to pay for a "House Extension" once those cars go you will never get them back and you will definitely regret it 💯%*
@@victorpeirce4753 no wife. I've owned over 150 cars and I always change them. Why not experience what's out there? They don't have to be expensive!
Watching this video makes me feel inexplicably sad. What a nice car. 100 years of Australian automotive history. it's over. 😓
Thank You boys, i enjoyed the video and the drive in the amazing Maloo GTS. It's such a shame having no Holden in Oz now ☹
Thanks guys for another cracking review on an Aussie classic Just hoping we as a country have woken up to the fact, we need manufacturing in this country and yes, we can't compete on price BUT not everything is sold on price and we can produce equal to the best
Thanks and glad you enjoyed the Ute
Awesome car, Glad I got mine, and Rev, that supercharger just pulls!!!!
Great review, nice to see Mark back too. Sad to see the demise of Holden, they made some really enjoyable cars. I had a few manual Commodore V8s which were mostly fun and fit for purpose. To be fair, they also sold a few dogs
Thanks I really enjoyed being back on our channel. The GTS-R really was fun to drive, I’ll have to put more effort in get out on the road with Stu more often.
Every manufactuerer sells dogs.
First time viewer. Really enjoyed it, excellent! Thank you.
Thanks, we appreciate it
Interesting video, a bit of a refresher on the holden stopping production situation. Glad i have one in the family.
Great video, their guys, and I have subscribed for the first time.
From William.
Thank you William, I’m glad you enjoyed the vid
Have a hsv club sport and SS thunder ute, not let them out garage much,great drive on weekend to golf club.
I am surprised more ladies didn't drive these, 2 doors and look at all that boot space 😊
Enjoyable video as always. It is correct that you don't see many Holden's on the road anymore. Although, I live a few suburbs south east of Stu, and I own a 2004 Monaro. It sees the street sometimes, but certainly not daily.
My car has a few tweaks to make it perform, handle and brake better, but nothing wild. I still love it the same 20 years later. I found it more useable as a street car than the larger and more powerful supercharged VE / VF cars.
It didn't ever interest me to replace it, or supplement it with a newer Holden. Especially as they didn't make any more two door cars after the third generation Monaro. I purchased many other new overseas produced cars instead. So, I too was part of the problem.
Anyway, keep up the good content, guys. 😊
Got a barra n happy cos love it. And holden.
Was waiting for you to light it up.. 😮
Might take it to the skid pan and light it up !
Sad, but still magnificent💗
*3 minutes in and noticed your first error.They are 6.2 V8, not 6.1.Great video otherwise.I love your laid back style. Have a great day*
In the original footage, I corrected Mark and said 'it's actually 6162' but I cut that in the edit as it didn't add anything and just made me look like a know-all smarty pants. But thanks for the compliment!
@@inCARnationAustralia No worries. I wasn't having a dig at him or being a smart arse, I've just never ever heard someone say 6.1 litre V8. I really love the way you make your videos. Nice presentation and not over the top. Just a straight up no nonsense video 💯👍👍
GM lost their way in the late 90's and never recovered. I love this car!
Really sad to see them go.
Way cooler than the sedan! 👌
Thank goodness Mark is back. That electric Frankenstein stuff has no interest to anyone. Love this channel, it’s a great dynamic. The other chap shouldn’t be left alone for too long.
Oooh harsh! Don't forget the 'other chap' is the guy who edits and produces the videos, does the voice over, writes a lot of the content, and most importantly, moderates the comments. And he's got a sad face🤨🤐🙄😮💨 right now. I realise the electric Frankenstein isn't for everyone, but it has its own devoted band of followers. But we shall keep the fossil fuel content coming, fear not.
Yes. He’s great and really very talented. Lead him back to the light. This is one of my absolute favourite channels. I don’t usually comment on any channel. Main reason is that I am a big fan. My offer if the CS drive still stands.
Also. Apologies for my other harsh comment. My Dad worked in the industry and it triggered a Button pardon the pun. Anyway. I absolutely love the channel.
All good. I'm not offended. Glad you're enjoying the content.
Also as a fellow 80s ska musician I’d like to see another rendition of it must be love. :-;
But not Are Friends Electric. Gary was ahead of his time, but had no interest in cars. Even though he wrote the song.
I should also refrain from wine.
Anyway. Love the channel.
I absolutely love my VF, it's by far the best vehicle I've ever owned. RIP Holden and GM you suck for shutting them down.
It’d be great to see you do the turbo Barra falcon. They don’t sound as good but they really do go.
Agree!
Yes we need to drive one of these
*An FG F6 31O sedan has less power on paper, but with a couple of little mods would absolutely cream this 6.2 litre Supercharged V8 pushrod dinosaur of an engine. Ford Australia actually had to fudge the numbers on the XR6 Turbo and F6 Turbo on paper because it made heaps more power and torque than the XR8s and GT V8 Falcon because no one would buy the V8 if it had less power and torque (on paper) than the 6cylinder Turbo. Once anyone tested the XR8 and XR6 Turbo, most people who were half smart elected the XR6 Turbo or F631O over the 5.4 quad cam Boss 26O or optioned 29O V8 that was an absolute slug with terrible gearing. The 5.4 quad cam Boss V8 used heaps more fuel than the XR6 Turbo and was heaps slower from ANY speed. The XR8 handled way worse and a lot more expensive for Registration. The only good thing about the XR8 was the sound, and even then for a V8 it didn't sound that great to be honest. I've owned both the XR6 Turbo and XR8. I sold the XR8 to buy my XR6 Turbo and it was the best thing I've ever done in regards to buying and selling cars. XR6 Turbo wins in every category. If the XR6 was exported to USA the Americans would have fallen in love with them like the majority of Aussies have. XR6 Turbo hands down the best combo paired to the German made ZF 6 Speed Auto. I could go on and on but XR6 Turbo is the King.💯*
@@victorpeirce4753 do you still have it? If you are around Sydney maybe loan it to Stu and Mark?
@@markedwards4879 Yes I still have it but I'm currently located in WA. I'll be moving back to Melbourne in June this year.🙁
You’ll have all the bogans excited for this episode.
Can't be too hard on bogans. They vote too.
The most Aussie V8 ute you can get?? You do know where that engine is from don't you? I'm pretty sure the most Aussie V8 ute you can get finished with the VS commy ute please correct me if I'm wrong
Well the VS commodore is based on the Opel Omega so the VS isn't quite such an Aussie as you think. The WB ute is probably the most Aussie going by your thinking.
So sad what happened to Holden, but that looks like fun. It's a shame about the noise. I really do like the way EVs can go fast without the noise. Are there any electric Commodores out there? I know they were made. Were any actually sold? If any were, it'd be awesome if you could drive one on the show.
Never heard of any electric Commodores. I'm sure that wouldn't go down very well with lot of folks. But stay tuned to the channel for my Electric Porsche 928 EV8. That is planned to have the classic V8 burble, or silence if I want, at the flick of a button.
Welcome back Mark, finally an episode worth watching. Lol
Sorry but i can't stand all the recent EV propaganda..😉
Sorry to report but you probably need to tune out until mid March. Mark's gone back to Barcelona for a month for more young driver development. In the meantime while I'm trying to organise a F6 Falcon or GT for his return but there will be lots of propaganda for you to avoid in the meantime. Personally I'm finding it a very challenging project, trying to resurrect a dead 928. And thankfully plenty of people seem to be interested in the process too. But there have been plenty of "f*ck EV's" comments too, complete with errant apostrophe. Maybe EVs are a bit like oysters. Some people like oysters. I don't. But I don't go on a crusade against oysters. I just say 'meh' and avoid them. It's not hard.
(And I also owned a R32 GTR. Awesome aren't they?)
@@inCARnationAustralia definitely still my favourite channel to be perfectly honest I just tune out on the EV stuff.
I'm guessing any aggressive comments towards EV's from the public is not directed at you personally.
Traditional freedom loving rev heads hate them as they most certainly seem like another convenient tool to capture, control and govern our future movements and are soul less ugly things imo.
The gtr is still king for me.
It's amazing what was possible for a nissan built in the 80s.
I guess Nissan "borrowing" a lot of its technology from the porsche 959 helped it make the jump to such a dominant platform in a short period of time.
I think it's important to appreciate a good variety of different machinery. The wife and i both enjoy watching your channel and do appreciate your sarcasm and editing skills also. 🙂
One day maybe I'll throw you and mark the keys to my rig. 🙏
Thanks I really enjoyed driving this very cool Holden and thanks for the kind words. I’ll be back in a few weeks and we will have some very cool cars to drive. I’m glad you and your wife enjoy the channel.
You could buy half the car with Marks AP watch 😂 yep I’ve got a 2012 V8 manual with 30 k on it, fun raw Ute gets more looks than the Porsche
Not quite half !! I’m a bit of a watch nerd. 😊
@@markwilliamson3185 yep me too 🥸
There are still some old fords here. Mine will be'
Holden needing assistance between 2000 to 2010? You guys don't know what you're talking about. The VT through to VZ put Holden on the world stage with the commodore range.
2 billion dollars worth of assistance. Good cars they may be, but I'd call that a lot of taxpayer $$$
What a fuckin beauty 😍
Certainly is
Thanx. Dont like em not sure bout the rear. Ugly but yer. Great vid thanx.
You can put 1 in my garage with my 2010 ve ss commodore ute
I have a customer with one of these he bought new in the burnt orange colour. 630kms only on it
"Light my fire" copper. Tell him he needs to drive it more.
@inCARnationAustralia it wasn't initially bought as an investment but simply a present to himself but now they've gone up plenty he barely takes it around the block
History will show the death of the car industry in Australia, to be equal parts myopic and punitive 😢
Myopic I understand but who is punishing whom? Fate punishing GM or Holden for their myopia? Or GM punishing the Australian public for actually believing its sob story? Or GM punishing Holden for something it did or didn't do. Strikes me the one being punished is the Australian public. ??
It’s your beloved Labor government Stu. Remember Button? And his great plan. That worked magnificently. Destroyed our industry and made 1000s of people jobless. What I struggle to understand is why we are still levy some of the highest taxes in the world but cars after your guys killed our industry.
WEF (with a heavy Swiss German accent): "Nein, nein...stop! stop! too much fun. No!
You must eat bugs and ride crammed Indian Inspired public transit. EVs for us, public
transit for you. Nein! Nein! It's verboten. We won't allow such fun to exist in 2035! Nein!"
We'll only eat those bugs if they are drowned in mustard and come with lots of boiled cabbage.
@@inCARnationAustralia They will have to pry the keys of my Carbon Maximizer off my dead cold fingers.
American motor... you want the last real Aussie muscle car, fgx sprint 6
Apart from the fact the engine is American
Nice ute sorry just not huge fan of that model.
Muscle car …do you know the meaning behind muscle car..obviously not..I own a muscle car an XY Fairmont with no power steering hence a muscle car…this car is not Australian built so not an Aussie muscle car…
where was it built?
I was wrong last built Aussie German car..As I said stop calling it a muscle car …come drive a true muscle car ..no power steering-no air conditioning…as the cars in the 70’s are muscle cars not a plastic power everything option car ..sorry if I come across as rude…
Yeah no worries. Hmm I think my first car might have been a muscle car. No power steering, no air-conditiong, drum brakes all round, 4-speed, they didn't even offer an automatic version, crossply tyres, push-out rear windows, terrible headlights. And 998cc of pure old school British bulldog muscle. Yes the old Mini Deluxe maybe pushed out 50 horsepower, maybe 52 on a good day. Being FWD probably let it down in the muscle car stakes though.
But in the 1970s (yes, 50 years ago) I did drive my buddies worked XU-1 and Torana SL/R (only the 253ci, not the 308ci, booo) so I probably have some idea. And I do remember how fast but shit they were to drive too, especially compared to my even shittier Mini. @@MrMov41t
@@MrMov41t The VE/VF was wholly designed and engineered here in Australia. It has no connection to the Opels as when the VE was designed, Opel had stopped making family sized sedans. The previous Commodores had a connection with the Opel Reckord/Senator and Omega but were heavily revised for our conditions. The VE/VF Commodores had an American designed V6 which was built in Australia and the V8 was a Chev motor imported from either Mexico or the USA.
ummm the definition of a muscle car has nothing to do with what you are talking about, go take 5second to google the shit because you sound pretty dumb atm