NONVIOLENT COMMUNICATION AND MONEY: DR. MARSHALL ROSENBERG
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- Marshall Rosenberg is the creator of Nonviolent Communication (NVC). This viewpoint of NVC is a very liberating, radical and compassionate way of relating to money; I found it takes a bit of internal work to get to the depth Marshall speaks about. I have transcribed this video at www.cleonalira.co.uk/blog/mar... and more transcribed works on Nonviolent Communication linked to money at / ifacleonalira
To learn more, visit the Centre of Nonviolent Communication at: www.cnvc.org/
as I watch this video,
memories flood me
and fill me
with overwhelming,
all-consuming,
intense: guilt and shame and grief and rage...
I have no idea how to escape this pain...
Ray of hope
Wow. What a peaceful attitude towards money. Love it.
We need to get liberated from the language of guilt and language of tactics
NOT into politics. What about peace?
In one of the lectures Marshall Rosenberg says that America is a domination culture, being taking as a model to be copied to the rest of the world. In other words, sickness is being multiplied with all the consequences. But cure can only be applied to an individual soul, one at a time.
Thank you what a great aha moment..I love the energy of those. Thank you! 💗🇨🇦🤠
Love to find that Marshall was living in the Gift too and appreciating some gems to take from this talk 🙏🏽
Yes. The one about not writing clinical reports is very cool too!
“Finally I realized that I was choosing to write the reports solely because I wanted the income they provided. As soon as I recognized this, I never wrote another clinical report.
I can’t tell you how joyful I feel just thinking of how many clinical reports I haven’t written since that moment thirty-five years ago! When I realized that money was my primary motivation, I immediately saw that I could find other ways to take care of myself financially, and that in fact, I’d rather scavenge in garbage cans for food than write another clinical report.”
Beautiful!
Amazing work!
Marshall really was amazing!
Bravo!
i think i have not worked for money in my 22 years teaching career. I made request for money as i worked for different institutions.
wow.. amazing
Thanks a lot
Hello Cleona, thanks for sharing the video of Marshall an thanks for sharing your thoughts about money. Can you give information about time when the Video is mad and where? Thanks Christian.
Sorry, Christian - I don't know.
has he written any where about this? Or has anyone else expanded on these principles? I wonder who is doing business this way? I would love to see how their service offering works, what the website will look like etc. \
You could try Miki Kashtan...afraid I don't know any others.
What happened to the great edited version of this? The Marshall moments one... it moved much more fluently..
Yeah, was wondering the same thing.
Is there English subtitles?
I wish i met him in Person….
Me too!
For another version, where this teaching is further elaborated on, by someone that works in finance (don't judge, please! ) :), visit czcams.com/video/YzbSdwKT7YI/video.html
Hi, I am wondering if you are interested in having Japanese subtitles on this video. I would love to introduce this video to my fellow Japanese NVCers, so if it's a yes, please let me know. I can send subtitle file in .txt(text file). Thanks for reading this.
9:55 Make this clear for yourself.
Never do anything for money.
Get money to do what you want to do.
Do the work that meets your need for meaning and then get the money to do it but don’t ever do anything for money. Life’s too short.” - Marshall B. Rosenberg
Hi. That would be amazing. I think there’s a way you could submit captions directly on the video?
Imagine having to have a 1 hour conversation in every economic transaction. Money it's a easy and fast way to facilitate exchange between people who possibly never saw and might never see each other again
I suppose that when you don't want to spend the time explaining it to the other person you can simply have the conversation in your head so then at least you can give and receive from your heart. I imagine you would want to have a conversation that took so long only when it was important to you for the other person to understand.
Are you feeling frustrated because this way of treating money doesn't meet your need for ease and efficiency in life?
Thom Sasa same thoughts!
Rob rob 0
I know this comment is four years old, but for everyone to come: This is NOT about having a one hour conversation for a transaction. It is a one hour conversation to help people understand the way that Marshal works with money. It is one hour to understand more deeply about non-violence. Thanks OP for providing the opportunity of showing once again how much effort it takes to wrap people's minds around that.
"TRANSCRIPTION"
question: I feel a little troubled by the topic of money.
on one hand, it's a good strategy to meet needs, on the other, I don't want to endanger my life. can you give us advice on how you have learned to look at money between these sides?
Marshall: Oh that's easy, yes.
let me give you a quick exercise on how to use money in a giraffe way.
3 points:
1) never pay money for anything
2) never charge money for anything
3) transform the concept of work.
get that out of your head, that anything is worth a certain amount of money. get rid of the word PAY. we don't want to ever pay money.
don't ever pay money for anything. GIVE MONEY. give it to serve life in a way you would like to serve.
second. never charge money for anything you do. don't ever charge money. request money from people to help you do the work you want to do. don't ever say: I'll give you what I find valuable if you give me money. I'll be glad to give you what I offer, and I'd like you to give me some money, so I can give it to others. for example, a woman called me on the phone. she had been referred to me by a doctor who knew a book I wrote about children with a learning problem. her child was having problems at school, so she was scared to death. she called and said: my doctor has referred me to you, I'd like to talk to you about my son who's having problems at school.
I said: fine, when do you want to come in?
she said (hesitatingly): before I say that, I need to ask you a question.
what was the question?
do you want to live in a world where people who might have something to help somebody's family, only give it if you give them money? do you want to live in that world?
where people die being transferred from one hospital to another after an accident because they didn't have money for the first one, so they send them to a public hospital? do you want to live in a world where money is used that way? so never charge money. don't do anything for money. make this clear to yourself. never do anything for money. get money to do what you want to do. do you see the difference? do the work that meets your need for meaning. and then get the money you need to do that, but don't ever do anything for money. life is too short. so I request money. I don't charge money. I give money, to help people do what they want to do. if what they do improves my life, I'd like to give them money to keep giving it to others. yeah.
audience: I have a very practical question: I work freelance for a firm for vitamins, the vitamin is very good and kept my health. I really want to talk about this with everyone, but I cannot give these things as a present, I also have to pay for them. I cannot go to the firm and say: I need this stuff because I want to help someone. I see my task in showing all the things you can accomplish with them. I give everyone a chance to get them at the same prices I get them. but sometimes someone says I can't pay for them, I can't pay this way...
marshall: here is my prediction, whatever you are doing if it serves life, and I can see that you are confident that this serves life, so I say to this person: I hear the problems you're having, I'm really confident that these pills would really help your health. I'd like to give them to you. and I can give them to you, because other people who have been benefitted from it, gave me money so I can keep giving this to people.
so I'd like you to tell me if you would enjoy giving me some money so I can keep giving this to people. but before you answer that question, can you tell me what you just heard.
wolf: are you mentally ill?
marshall: I guess this is the first time you heard this interchange about money?
wolf: this is weird!
marshall: see, it may take me 3 hours before we can get this clear. it is such a radically different concept.
once I stayed at a private residence in San Diego California and the woman agreed to handle my schedule when I was working. and so I asked her when people were calling for private sessions, to arrange an hour of the appointment. the second time I went back there I saw each one for 2 hours. I asked her: why 2 hours I asked you for 1 hour. she said: last time you were here, I noticed it took you 1 hour to see the person, and 1 hour to get clear how you use money. but my experience has been, when people really understand, they usually give me 40% more than I requested, but more importantly, they enjoyed giving it. because they could see that I can only give it to them. because people were giving me enough money to travel, to give money for whatever I needed to do my service. it's not to talk to people about this, I was working with a company in Switzerland. one of the directors invited me to do some work with them, and when I was in the office talking to this director he said: I'd like you to do the work, what do you charge.
Marshall: I don't charge. I'd be glad to tell you what I would like to receive, and I would like to know if you would enjoy giving me. and if there is a conflict I'm sure we can work it out.
he said: I thought you were going to say something like that. but in this company, if I go to my supervisor, they would just want to know your charge. I wouldn't know how to explain this to them.
I said: I tell you what I would like, and if you want me to come and do this, however, you want to deal with the money in your company, that's your business.
he said: ok, what would you like?
I told him, and he replied:
that's a problem. if I go to my supervisor and tell them that's what you like, they would think you not worth anything. most of our consultants ask for three times that amount. I said: if you want to give me 3 times that amount, I'll take it.
but I just need you to know that I don't do anything for money. I can do it without money for your company because other people give me money. so they gave me 3 times what I requested. but some people don't have any money. ask me to give them money, so they can use my services, so in many of the countries, I go to. sometimes people would like me to give them money so they can come to my workshops, and feed their families. because if they come to my workshops, their families won't eat that day.
so in Sierra Leon, I gave the people money to come to my workshops, and I can do that because people in other countries gave me money.
so never do anything for money, do that which meets your need for meaning, and request the money you need to do that.
question: what is it like when I have received something very precious to me, and I would like to give something in return, but I cannot give something in the form of money, but I also don't know what the other person would like to have?
answer: I have these conversations daily. they want to give me what I need to continue the work, but they don't have money. there are a lot of things they can do to meet my needs besides giving me money. so I just tell them what they could do to meet my needs. we can usually find a way if that's the case. but sometimes this dialogue causes great pain for people. one time a woman told me in a workshop - I just don't have any money, so that's why I'm not giving you any. ok. and then during our lunch break, we go out to the parking lot, I had a tiny car, she had a great big car. of course, she didn't have any money. that car was probably costing everything she had. and my car was happening to be right next to her, and she looked at me and I looked at her and we had a good laugh.
The interpreter is having trouble because her mind is being blown by his ideas.
She tries to understand rather than simply conveying the message in the other language and that's where she may be committing errors (I don't understand German, but at times it feels as though she may not have translated what he exactly said)
I have the need for a better translator.
wouldn’t you rather need everyone to know that you understand both English and German up to detecting imperfections of this translation ?
"I have a *request for a better translator."
That's the most awry explanation of money based economy aka. market economy.