Rhodesian War Stories: Army Food
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SteveMRE is drooling while watching this video
Even a hardened bush fighter turns into a schoolboy around a pretty lady! A wonderful video though, incredibly interesting. Thanks!!
The ratpack was really cool, I've wondered about them for some time. Someone should show Steve1989 to try a Rhodesian ratpack.
I second this!
There's probably very few, if any, in existance.
@@Mellcula Perhaps we could arrange a trade? Get Steve1989 to send him some kind of latest cutting edge modern ration package, and for him to send Steve1989 a reproduction Rhodesian ration?
that would be epic
For some reason the powdered milk and powdered mashed potatoes seldom had a label on resulting in very runny sweet mash and very lumpy tea…..😀
100% Jim. I once had my bivvy mate use the last of our water to make a cup of tea, where he used the mash potato instead of milk AND salt instead of sugar. So we had tea flavoured salty soup 😂😂
Hi Martin,
I just listened to A Handful of Hard Men and discovered that they interviewed Pete “Lofty” Loftus of the RLI! I left a comment on Hannes Wessel’s latest video on John Van Zyl’s channel asking him to forward Lofty’s contact info to you since you mentioned that you wanted to get to chat with him in your great video of “Lofty.”
We also used the exact same canteens and metal cups in the US Army.
Thanks for making these amazing videos. Nadine is a great addition as well! I dig her Rhodesian pattern shirt!
Best wishes from the US. 🇺🇸⚔️
Best cooking show ever! Martin and Nadeen should open a Bush Restaurant offering _Steak à la Graaf_ . It could be _B.Y.O.B_ "Bring your own Bokomo"... Incidentally, why can the name of said product not be spoken?
Probably for copyright reasons.
I was just wondering about that?
Love this, watching you in Houston Texas. Thank you efforts, it's great. Blessing to you and yours
same here
Thank you Martin. This really brought back memories. I grew up in Salisbury and served in the BSAP 75-78 and did many a PATU patrol during that time. The rat packs were not that bad and as you said the dog biscuits were edible, especially when there was no time to stop and cook a meal. I remember we used the blue Camping Gaz stoves which we don't see here in the USA, but I believe they sell them in Canada. I recall pre-mixing the ProNutro just like you did before every bush trip. One thing I figured out early on bush trips was to fill a plastic bottle with condensed milk for my tea or sadza, and it would actually still be good even after 5-6 days out, unrefrigerated, probably because of all the sugar. Like Pamberi said below, the best tins were beans and franks, chicken a la king and Cashel Valley orange segments. I can't believe we'd actually carry all those tins for nearly a week at a time, when nowadays its all freeze-dried and MREs. I think all our gear with rifles, ammo, grenades, claymores, batteries and food must have weighed over 30kg, crazy. You can only do that stuff when you're young.
Love the enthusiasm you two have for the food there.
Different army, different foe, but the contents of your rat pack, brought back a lot memories and a few smiles
This brings back great memories of those Rat packs , my favourite parts were the orange segments, the bully beef and the beans and sausage. The powered orange flavoured power made fruit juice but was sticky and yes messy . The dog biscuits were not bad as people say .
Martin I like your assistant friend.. Nadine is cool and funny and very pretty . The canteen cooking kits were very well made . Well done Martin and thanks for bringing back such wonderful memories of the army days . Keep well ! Thanks Nadine for your contribution . 🙏🏻
What a cheerful episode to start the day! Well done Nadine. Good to see the old Bluet stove in action, much better than having to use hexamine blocks. On the hard tack, I think it depended on how long they had been sitting in the stores, I'm sure I've had to eat some old WWII stock back in the seventies. Y
That cooker sure does beat those nasty smelling hex tabs! We god hard tack crackers in cans as part of C rats, and later in MRE’s. We would crush them up and mix them with the chocolate drink powder to make “Ranger Pudding.” We always brought hot sauce until they finally started adding them to MRE’s at the factory.
This is one of the best, really brought back memories. The rations were different but the approach was the same. It was always fun to pull apart rats and the trading and exchange of items between men was often like a busy little market. The more popular items were often traded for multiples of others. But you had to carry everything on your back, so hard decisions had to be made about what you wanted to eat and how much.
Shovel cooking also happened in both world wars. Soldiers will find a way through adversity.
Hi Martin. You forgot the energy sweets in the rat packs. We always hooked my dad's when he was issued his at the Byo Drill Hall. Keep up the good work, Mike
It's wild because a lot of European Ration packs/ MRE's haven't changed all that much from the Rhodesian ratpack design, shows how sound planning is with smart Military logistics and supply. Thanks for showing us this amazing bit of history bru!
Thanks for that video. The cooking demonstration using the shovel was interesting. And I agree, sometimes you do something common but you never get to do it again with those same people. But as long as you carry that memory and honor them with your stories, they are still with you.
I would be interested to see more about the hard tack. Early in WWII army troops in the South Pacific were eating US Army hard tack from 1865, the American Civil War!
I've never thought to use a shovel for cooking. Ingenuity!!
The Army marches on it's stomach. A very old, very apt saying. The ability to 'live off the land', is a vital part of training for bush/plains,desert, wooded and mountain war-fare, but little compares to on-hand, quickly prepared and consumed rations. Rashers over barbed-wire or impaled on greem thorn boughs was a great favourite of mine. trouble was, the scent of cooking bacons attracts 'un-welcome guests' at times. Your combined culinary prowess really gives, 'food for thought'. Great show!
Tim whilst l operated in the Honde Valley we could definitely "live off the land". There were mangoes, guavas & avocado pears & water was plentiful from either the Pungwe or Honde rivers.
Love to see my Friend having a good time in the kitched. I missed you!
Martin, You must tell us what Nadine said for the non Afrikaners. Have followed you 5RR for sometime with interest. One suggestion if I may , keep Nadine in the show. She has such a positive attitude and a natural inter action or flow with your presentation. Rat Pack, K rations , SOS , every army has them, some better than others Ration de Combat Individuelle Rechauffable. Best of luck looking forward to the next show.
"Goeie dag, en welkom by ons kanaal." translates to: Good day, and welcome to our channel.
Hey great to hear from you again👍😎 greetings from Germany to SouthAfrica
Thank you Martin. Wonderful show as ever.
Wish there was more videos like this and not just about the war
Great fun to watch, beautiful assistant 🔥👌
I think Nadine is better looking. 👍
@@ginojaco 😆😆👌
Interesting video, brings back memories of my oldest brother bringing home the tubes of cheese, margarine and jam when he was in the Rhodesian army. Look forward to the next video.
This was a super nice video of bush cooking - very well improvised!! However I should say every rat pack should have a Nadine in it though 😜
Also I never ever heard the term “dog biscuits “ from anyone- except me when my mom would make “biscuits “ - you could break a windshield on a car with them 🤣🤣👍
Thank y’all so much !!
As a scottish guy im both surprised to see fray bentos being supplied to the rhodesian army and the tin of ghoulash never ever seen that before
I love that shovel trick, I will remember that one for sure!!!!
Brilliant timing, I just sat down from a busy and a notification for your video popped up. Love the content keep up the good work my friend.
Was looking forward to your next episode and was not disappointed, excellent as always. That was a bit different, with your charming assistant but most enjoyable and informative. Many thanks, best wishes from The UK.
memories thanks
What a treat! Thank you both for doing this for us. Love and respect from me in UK.
Loved the video, quite a joy to watch you two cooking some of the food that you ate back in the day, I might just need to try some of these items when I go out bush camping soon!
Awesome video and I really enjoyed it
Thank you Sir for sharing your experiences God richly bless and keep you in peace until we meet over Jordan
its good to see FRR so happy in this video
Thank you for all these stories that give all this detail
Another great video, always a joy to see you’ve posted. Would love to see another food video
Thank you!! So interesting to see 😁
Hooray! I was looking forward to this episode as I do every one.
I remember living off Camp Coffee, and tinned evaporated milk in the jungle for days on end, when on a hard routine.
It is aquired tast, which I never mastered !
What a great surprise. Thank for another fun and interesting video. Glad to see you are doing good.
Very nice program.
yay new video! and is about army food!
Bloody hell Martin cooking rice in a bag has been an international process for many years 😂😂. All I used to take was all the tea bags milk powder and sugar, the dog biscuits, butter and jam and then swapped all my cans for chicken ala king and beans and franks. Great post Martin. Brought back memories.
Thank you.
Good to see you again.
Absolutely fascinating!
Thanks! Always nice to see different military food from around the world.
Very fun video.
I'd love to see you make the "dog biscuits"
Many thanks.
Thank you so much for your videos, they are very fun and informative! Cheers from Vermont, USA
Good to see you again Mr. Martin!, and thank you again for another wonderful video!! I wish you and your family good health!
Nice video..... Yeah I like your direction of including other people looking forward to videos
That was fun ! Who’s the Pretty Lady ?
I need to get a New Shovel for the Kitchen
Those Tubes,,
the One with Cheese(supposed to be),,, well anyway, in the Canadian IMPs (Individual Meal Packs), I once had Cheese with Glass Fragments,,, a bit of a problem, not my Favorite 😳😵💫😬,,, Someone screwed up in the Kitchen… ‘did a nice number of my Mouth as I remember… those R&D People in the DND Kitchens got a real Sense of Humour,,,
I guess 🤔🤣😵💫
“Death to RasPutin & his Evildoers,, All of Them,,, the Sooner, the Better.”
Thanks for the Entertainment ! 👍
Why death to putin ?he's fighting the same people who distroyd RHODESIA.
Love watching your content 5RR, you always manage to cheer me up with your stories and anecdotes.
Cheers from Sweden, where spring has finally arrived!
Very good episode. It's great that you went to the effort of making a replica field ration pack to give us an idea of what Rhodesian Army rations were like. Very informative and entertaining, cheers.
ProNutro brings back memories! Next you'll be showing us Wheetabix.
You two are so wholesome
Love this channel! And Nadine is a sweet person.
Your channel just came up on my algorithm. This is very interesting, as I had been interested in Rhodesia and the conflict there for many years. I don't know when I started getting interested as I was a child when most of it had going on. I had a friend years ago, who had been in the British South African Border police, in the late 1970s. We met in a round about way. Btw, we're both American. Anyway, I've always been interested in the rations of other countries, both past and present. I guess you could say it's the history? Anyway, great channel and thank you.
hey ! as always great content by far my favourite channel on youtube .so interesting!, have you ever thought of converting these videos into a podcast format?
Hi Martin,
Very, very interesting video! I greatly enjoyed it, and I'd love to give a few of these a try, and good job on Nadine's part!
Also,
I was curious to know if you had any knowledge on the usage of M63 steel helmets from the South Africans, by 5RR at all during your service, or any bit of the Rhodesia Regiment for that matter. I’ve been aware of their utilization by the RhSAS and the RAR, but I have always wondered if they were used by other regiments within the Security Forces
Good to hear another Hardtack enjoyer
Well, I haven’t seen a cookery program quite like that before
Just as well you dropped in today
Wonderful video as always! I understand why this food wasn't always carried: too heavy! Makes me glad my army's MREs are small and light. They don't taste good, but food carried and eaten is better than delicious food you didn't bring. Cheers!
Bless you
In Australia in the70"s 80" s our food was like British food , Lamb chops, boiled vegetables, mash potatoes, roasts beef, chicken baked dinners, casseroles, stews. Deserts was pies and pudding we hardly ate rice apart from the odd pudding a cheese called Coon cheese today had it's name changed because it's apparently offensive
Mmm! nothing like a meal in good company... cheers!
Love your content. Any chance you can make a video on recruit training and how the promotion ceremony/parade works?
Very nice video as allways 👍 if the two of you did a MRE unboxing video together Nadine would toatlly go of the deep end with all the stuff in one of those 😊 greetings from Denmark
Cheers!
I forgot about cooking on a shovel
Fascinating video. I had asked about this subject some time back, and you did answer my comment, but I'm very glad to see a video covering it. "An army marches on it's stomach" they say. About the water purification tablets...Yes, I have done this too. Sometimes you just need to have a drink NOW and can't be bothered to wait for the second tablet. It isn't so bad.
Hi Larry, my service started later and ended later than Martin's, so the rat packs I was familiar with differed from the one described here.
Of the 3 types we were issued, sometimes all the same type because the CQSM could not be bothered to open more than one carton, we never got water purification tablets, but we did get 2 salt tablets to counteract heat stroke, and 2 multi vitamin tablets.
If we were dubious about water quality (still water) we would only use it to boil for coffee or tea.
@@steveobourne4745 very interesting that they removed the purification tablets. I think a similar thing happened during ww2 with C rations. Initially I think they had purification tablets but later switched to salt tablets.
@@larrythorn4715 Hi larry, not sure if it was a substitution, but I do remember it being mentioned that if we got heat stroke we were liable to prosecution for not taking the tablets. (never heard of it happening, so probably just intimidation).
The pilchards were also not available in my time, due to them being imported and foreign currency being tight.
Early rat packs also included a small disposable tin opener which were not available in my time. if you got hold of one, you wore it around your neck with your dog tags.
@@steveobourne4745 could have been due to availability, cost, or salt tablets were thought more useful, I'm not sure obviously, I doubt we'll ever really know.
@@steveobourne4745 I still have my can opener but sadly lost my dog tags. Glad I took it off after I left the country in late 79. Still works 😂👍
Very interesting 5RR, reminds me of the first British Army rat pack I was hand in 1982.
The best cooking show yet from you and your assistant , lol , just tucking into my peanut butter and honey on toast here in Alberta . All the best to you both.
nice one 5RR
Good fun as always, rat packs from Rhodesia seem pretty similar to UK ones. Nadine has a very infectious laugh... 😉
Met Clem Coetzee only once many years ago, I think he was moving rhinos around back then; a man who knew a hell of a lot more about the bush than anybody else around him, but was never painful about it.
"That's zo cool" is the most German response one could possible give.
I'd suppose there were special cooking shovels set aside, eh?
We want our successful country back
American GI canteen and canteen cup
You forgot about the sucrose tablets.
Was there chicken in paprika sauce?
Edit: the more I think about it there was a can of ‘chicken in paprika sauce’ in some of the ratpacks. I seem to remember it was quite popular and was traded for.
I definitely don't ever remember chicken in paprika in our Rhodesian rat packs. There was a "creamy chicken".
That sounds delicious. The most popular menu in the old type British rat packs when there was still tinned food, was chicken curry, with a little bag of boil-in-the-bag rice. Heat up water in a mess tin and put both the tin (opened or dented to prevent explosion) and the bag inside the water. Only drawback being you couldn't then use the water for a brew as it would be starchy.
In a lot of the Eastern European rations the hard tack is referred to as "Panzer Waffles". The purification tablets make the water taste just like "City water". I wonder what an original Rhodesian "Rat Pack" would go for these days? There's an idea! Market a reproduction one. I honestly think that you and Nadine make a great crew. You play of each other well. The steak on a shovel thing really isn't any different than your gas or charcoal grill, or even a frying pan. A shovel being a bit thinner may heat up faster.I like my steak almost rare so a quick toss on there would be just right. One crazy question? being out in the bush did you guy's use wood or like cowboys in the old west did you use dried dung. Cowboys often used buffalo chips, would elephant or some other animal suffice?
Samuel we had small camping "Gaz" cookers. This was originally a French camping cooker that used a small butane gas cylinder that you clipped into the holder & then screwed the burner into, so piercing the cylinder top. Normally with the minimum of cooking that we did this 4 - 6 inch gas cylinder would easy last you 6-8 days
Panzerplatten which translates to something like Tank armour plates.
@@simonh6371 some guys used to soak their "Dog biscuits" overnight in water (or with powered milk added) they would swell up & the guys would fry them with margarine. Almost like pancakes or flapjacks as the Yanks call them. If anyone suffered from diarrhoea in my stick l would just get them to eat a pack of dog biscuits. That soon bunged them up 😂
@@calummackenzie1797 Lol ours had the same effect. On the packaging they were marked ''Biscuits, brown AB''. Not sure what AB really stood for but we called them arse blockers.
What kind of foraging was there in Africa? Which herbs and berries were edible?
Never ever saw anyone ever foraging unless it was at an African store passing through. Herbs and berries? No.
Only Special Forces went on training courses to learn to live off the land, because they often operated behind enemy lines.
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I see the sadza and nyama but where’s the relish?
Did you have condensed milk in your original rat packs at all??
Yes we did. The trick was to punch 2 holes in the top. Then heat it up. It would then turn into a thick Caremel. Give it a try! And please don't forget the 2 holes!!!
What about biltong, rusks and mebos? And what do you do with the empty tins and packaging?
Alan biltong was not a good thing to take into the bush for 2 reasons. 1) it's way too salty which would make you consume too much water, which depending where you were operating, could be a problem. & 2) ants would find it 😂😂
When it comes to empty tins, in the last 2 years of the war we would put our empty tins back in our packs & take them back to base camp, otherwise you just dug a "shit" pit with your panga (machete) & buried it. As l only took 1 big tin per day & we were only out for 6 days & nights l was only bringing back 6 tins & some plastic bags that had my milk, sugar & coffee bags. So it wasn't a problem taking it back to company base
@@calummackenzie1797 Thanks for your reply. I must have been thinking of the Boer War.
@@jurgen7579 Quite right. In fact many times we found 2 to 3 lots of tins from previous OPs. You tended to find that when you checked the terrain & looked at maps for a good OP pozzie some previous troops had also come to the same conclusion. Andre Rabie told me during my NS at Kariba (1972) that he could walk from the dam wall to Chirundu without taking any food. When l said "Oh, so you'll live off the land?", he replied "No, I'll live off all the rations that you NS guys just chuck away in the bush! 😂😂
Great vid
So is it porage?
Do you watch any anime and where do you find the Rhodesian girls you have in some of your videos
No biltong?
What is the substance that cannot be named? Is there a generic name for it or can you give a general description of what it is so that I might know what to use as a substitute?
You can’t read the name on the box??? Starts with a ‘P.’
@@mtkoslowski yeah I can read. I guess I could pause it, read it, look it up, but mr. Newton, I really hope you can forgive me for trying to interact with the creator of the video. My sincerest apologies.
It's a cereal made from "maize, skim‐milk powder, groundnut flour, soya flour, and fish protein concentrate with added vitamins."
@@fiveromeoromeo5225 that is quite the witch’s brew
@@kangaroo1207 I also am intrigued by the mystery, if that's ok with Mr. Newton.
Why is it that you cant say the product name? Is it some weird CZcams restriction?
Did the SB or MPs not jump you
Who is Nadine?
Why won’t you say the name of the box?
What a mess
It would be much smarter to empty the bag of dry rice into the canteen cup and then have a dry plastic bag to deal with
now you’ve got wet, hot, messy pieces of plastic you’ll need to pick out of your rice
What is the African version of a squirrel?
Boerewors
@@mtkoslowski or smileys, you shoot a snake, coil it up on a grid and cook it. Apparently the mouth opens wider and wider as it cooks, hence the name.
@@dylanmaier3055 I recall other bbq called smileys in SA ,a goat or sheep head open lengthwise with its jaws open apart that looks like a grilled chicken ,,.