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Ep.2.04: "The Sisko Kid" with Cirroc Lofton
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- čas přidán 17. 12. 2022
- It's the fourth episode of our second season. Host Dominic Keating is home healing from injury. As such, Connor and Erica are joined by guest host, Producer Mark, to shoot the breeze with an actor we all watched grow up on Star Trek Deep Space Nine: Cirroc Lofton, beloved for his role as Jake Sisko, son of Captain Sisko. "The kid from DS9" is all grown up and has a lot of terrific stories to tell. They discuss Cirroc's life, his first experiences as a child actor, his thoughts on growing up on Trek, and more. Trek conventions. Trek convention body guards. Launching a restaurant. Hosting his very successful podcast The 7th Rule, which he started with Deep Space Nine bestie, and real life great guy, the late Aron Eisenberg (Nog from DS9). Erica gets some fan questions in, we play Trek Trivia, and more. It's another conversation episode, this time with a real cool cat who happened to grow up a block from where we sat to talk.
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Cirroc and Tony Todd's performances in "The Visitor" were a thing of beauty.
great episode
They were all great and the writing was amazing. DS9 was the best.
'The Visitor', along with 'Duet', is arguably one of the best Star Trek episodes ever.
Maaaan. I just watched The Visitor again last night. It's so amazing. Especially since I became a father myself.
Yeah, just about my favorite DS9 episode. Everyone is great all around in that one.
Everytime I've seen interviews with Avery I just feel like he's on a whole other level then the rest of us.
Ya. He is a bit out there as Shatner said.
@@spankyham9607 I saw a clip from a convention where someone asked if Avery was OK, mentally. Because of the Captains doc and Nana said "He's just stoned."
He is deep.
I'd love to see Connor and Dom do a version of their podcast where they rewatch Enterprise and talk about the episodes. Kinda like how Garrett and Robbie do on their Delta Flyers podcast.
Especially loved hearing about Avery Brooks and the way he interacted with the crew
Time? please :D
@@jakubkovac346 40:30
I didn't really sit down and "watch" DS9 until much later, and it soon became my favorite series to watch to this day. Cirroc and I are basically the same age, I'm one year older. My father withdrew from my life at an early age and the watching the father/son relationship between Cirroc and Avery really gave me a good example of the kind of relationship I have with my own kids... firm but loving in the right way. And I'm happy that that relationship transcended the screen as well.
Cirroc's story about Aron's funeral was touching and funny. Thanks for this show, guys.
Connor, Erica and Mark - congrats on another exciting episode! Cirroc was a fantastic guest, such a warm and humble person. His experiences as a child actor and his stance on how the industry has treated them was super insightful, extremely well spoken. Hearing the positive experience Avery had and continues to have on his life was immensely sweet, their real life love for eachother really shone through in their performances on DS9. I think my favourite aspect about this weeks episode is how Cirroc was just as curious and engaged in asking questions as our hosts were! His back and forth with Connor was alot of fun to see. I'm deeply excited for next weeks episode! Wishing Dom a speedy but gentle recovery, we'll be waiting patiently for his return. 🩹❤🩹 Happy Shuttlepod Sunday, one and all! 💚🍃🖖
Happy Shuttlepod Sunday, Hal!
It was such a low key episode. We could actually hear the guest for once.
Great episode everyone. Can someone please tell Mark that he did a great job filling in for Dominic even though he was obviously nervous. I don't know about anyone else, but it's nice to put a face to the voice behind the camera after all this time.
We will tell him. Thank you for the kind words and encouragement.
I teach in a juvenile prison and for many of the minority students of mines, this was the first time they've actually seen a positive male role model that was a minority. Most of their role models they've seen were either gangsters, drug dealers, pimps, gangster rap stars, etc, etc.
Sisko was the first time for them seeing a bonafide positive male role model. I tried to do " The Cosby Show" but it didn't really click to them. DS9 CLICKED for them. Thanks for doing the show and sharing your experience.
That’s awesome. Thank you
I'm sure Avery would be proud, it was why he took the job from what i read.
Such a wonderful discussion! Thanks much for having the amazing Cirroc Lofton on the show- love his reminiscences!
I’d love to see Cirroc back on a Star Trek show - even if it’s just a Short Trek. I think it’d be cool to see some follow up with Jake. When we last saw him at that window with Kira, it felt like his story was just beginning.
I just did a rewatch, and not only did it confirm that DS9 is the best Trek, best crew, best cast, AND best captain, but I was reminded of the beautiful relationship between Benjamin and Jake. He hugged and kissed Jake all the time and told his son that he loved him. It was a very physical manifestation of a father's love for his son...it was a tangible thing you could feel through the screen. He allowed Jake to just be himself and never forced him to be something other than who he was.
I loved what he said about making the studios accountable to the child actors and interning them into other career paths.
Thank you for this. My favorite thing about DS9 is the father-son relationship of Ben and Jake. No other Star Trek show has something like this. This was its heart. People play at being families in shows but the affection between Avery and Cirroc was clearly sincere beyond the screen, and heartwarming. My only complaint is that Jake should have been there with Cassidy in saying goodbye to Ben after the wormhole aliens rescue him. I feel Ben would have insisted upon it. Blood is blood. But it’s a small thing in the greater whole.
I'd never seen Cirroc in anything other than DS9 episodes, so it was a real treat to discover just how funny and cool this guy is after all these years since he was on that show. Thank you for the gift of this guest, an hour well spent in good company.
Cirroc is a fantastic human being, showing that knowledge, love and caring for all. Glad you had him on and I got a NAM for my question!! WHOOHOOO. I hope that Dom is healing well and knows we are out here rooting for his return. #ProducerNerdMark represented all the Trek Nerds in fine style, @Erica Larose looking lovely and kind, while Connor was in fine laid back handsome style. Folks need to watch this podcast.
Yay Cirroc/@The 7th Rule crossover episode!!!!
Yeah, I'm definitely checking out 7th Rule next!
Yeah we Niners have to share the fame esteem to the other shows.
Fantastic time with Cirroc Lofton on with @Shuttlepod Show gracing us with his presence and stories! He is beloved by so many of us and has helped build @The 7th Rule Trek family (Heal up soon Dom and speedy return!) ❤💛💙🤓🖖🏾
I'm watching these out of order, so I may not know things that people who have watched the podcast consecutively. I did not know Connor was doing the paintings! Really well done sir. The portrait of Cirroc Lofton as Jake Sisko very much catches his essence. Wonderful exchange with Mr. Lofton. I've been rewatching DS9, and wondering what happened to him. Apparently, he's been hanging out with Robert De Niro, which is amazing. I agree whole heartedly with Cirroc's comments about child actors needing support down the road and hope that happens. Last, I'm sorry to hear Dominic was injured and hope he recovers soon! I love the quality and depth of your interviews, and I love to hear the stories from behind the scenes! LLAP!
Welcome to the family! Glad you’re here and enjoying it. The artwork is done by friend of the show Tiff. She does all of our guest art. Cirroc and Connor were making a joke. Hope you enjoy the rest! More to come!
Kudos to Tiff. I've loved the paintings. :)
Cirroc was a great guest, he is such a humble person!
Mark, you did a great job despite your nervousness. Erica, it was a pleasure to see more of you. Connor, impeccable as always. That makes a wonderful episode.
Nevertheless, Dominic was missing a lot! Hopefully he can be back soon to complete this cool team again.
Thank you, Laani! We are all looking forward to Dominic’s return.
Cirroc, I live a couple miles away from Toogaloo college. Avery Brooks has been a hero to me since Spencer for Hire, A Man Called Hawk, and then Star Trek, as a teacher, a mentor, a singer, love his voice, and a good looking man!
I'm so glad you were able to take such love, integrity, and family examples from him.
I'm so impressed with how knowledgeable and professional YOU ARE. And I love your laughter! I'm so glad you are a hero for your generation too!!
Amazing episode! Love Cirroc!
Would love to see The Delta Flyers come to the Shuttlepod Show! Connor & Dom Vs Garrett & Robbie 😍
Hahaha. Fun.
Cirroc just seems like a very down to earth guy, good to see him on this show and have him back sometime.
What a great Episode! Seeing Cirroc so grown up is so humbling to see how much time has passed as I (as most fans I’m sure) always imagine Cirroc as the young Sisko kid! Great show guys. Love from 🇬🇧
Best pods crossovers yet! Love ENT & Cirroc!!!
Great guest, Cirroc is a really down to earth, switched on and likeable guy. His answer to the fan question - about Avery being a father figure to him - was top notch magnificent.
This was an amazing episode, considering Cirroc stepped in last minute, he did an amazing job! Well done folks.
What a great episode with our beloved Cirroc!! And great job Mark Cartier💜
I remember being about the same age as "Jake" when Ds9 came out and I don't remember ever sensing anything disingenuous about the interaction between Jake and Cisco. Always genuine and always touching.
Wonderful episode! Great to see Cirroc again! I was laughing so hard I was crying tears of joy! 🤣🤣 Thanks for another great episode. Love you all, and hope Dom will be back soon. As Dom would say " Bless". ❤️🤘😀🖖
Thank you for not editing/censoring this one to death.
Sounds like Mr. Brooks taught him how to be a man. Our young men need that so desperately and he was very blessed to have that in his life at the most important time in a young man's life.
Great interview with Cirroc! Glad he's doing well in life post child stardom. It's exciting to see the cast from other shows. Definitely can't wait for Armin Shimerman and Scott Bakula to come to shuttlepod.
Tiff is very comprehensive artist, she understands the essence of her subjects
Wow…I really enjoyed listening to Cirroc‼️ Very interesting stuff. Loved his take on Avery Brooks. ❤
Great discussion and podcast ❤. Appreciate the father and son dynamics and the genuineness of that relationship portrayed on and off screen.
Wow! What a great idea from Cirroc about the studios and child actors in they should find some way to help them stay in the industry but doing other roles etc once their "usefulness" on set has run it's course.
Great Interview with Cirroc. He is a wonderful actor and a great person to talk to. Great Podcast.
This was such an amazing time to get to know Cirroc with Connor and the gang at ShuttlePod. I'm a long time fan of Star Trek, and late lover of DS9. I didn't watch it when it aired (all my fault), but have since watched it and LOVED it. The crew of DS9 seem to have become great friends for life.
I also read Star Trek novels and love what they've done with the characters post wrapping of the show.
Again, thank you. This was SO much fun.
Is Jake Sisko a prominent character in any of the novels you've read?
@@tilt0matic2 - One that I hold really dear is on the first actually novel of Star Trek: Enterprise The Good That Men Do (which is #11, but first NEW story that disregards the LAST episode of ENT) by Andy Mangels and Michael A. Martin. He is has a prominent POV character.
I don't want to give too much away about how and why, but it is unexpected, but then works so well with his character on DS9. You have to check it out.
The books 11 onward is like Season 5 and Season 6. So for Star Trek: Enterprise fans...check out the novels. They are GREAT.
@@grafffuller3265 I've got to finish the Enterprise TV series first. I'm in season 3.
@@tilt0matic2 - Great to hear. Keep going. It really is a GREAT show. It was just in the wrong place, at the wrong time. The numbers were there (like the previous three), but outside influences just didn't allow them to fulfill the seven year plan.
We all STILL hope that they'd give us as much of the crew...in a twenty years later type show for this storyline and for the actor's themselves. BUT, you never know if/when that come together.
We love the entire cast.
Keep in touch. Would love to hear your thoughts of Season 3 and 4...especially the last episode. BUT, also knowing that the novels keep going.
All the best to you on this Trek in the wonderful Star Trek: Enterprise TV series.
Cirroc killed it! Haha the De Niro bit had me laughing out loud in the office.
Another interesting and thoughtful interview. Best wishes to Dominic for his recovery.
I have binged just about every episode of Shuttlepod. This has to be my favorite. I am so impressed with the man that Mr. Lofton has become.
I remember those eating scenes with Scott and Connor and I want to say I remember Scott playing into Connor eating more than him in a few of those scenes. :)
Oh, man, that per diem story was fantastic (as was the rest of everything, of course)!
Just popping in to say, after binging most of this show, I’ve been inspired to go rewatch the series for the first time since I watched it while it was airing when I was a teenager. Almost through the first season and (I still can’t stand the title song BUT) I’ve already cried multiple times, guffawed more than a handful, and fallen in love with Porthos and the rest of this crew. And I’m remembering the MASSIVE crush I had on Trip. 😁 but now I miiiight be crushing on Malcolm. Enterprise is so good. Glad it’s finally getting the love it deserved.
Best wishes to Dom as he recovers from his injury!
This was such a fun episode, thank you! My favorite TV theme song is Knight Rider :)
Night Rider! Excellent choice.
Brilliant episode! Can't wait to see the next one✌👍🤘😎
Wow I did not expect this to be one of my favorite episodes, he had such good stories
I knew it would be a wonderful episode
Fantastic as always. Great to see Mark & Cirroc. Give my best regards to Dom for a speedy recovery.
He looks great and I love his perspectives on acting as a young man and student. Jake Sisko was a great character brought to life in a believable and interesting way. This was an amazing interview
Yet another great show. They are all so different, yet all such good value. Star Trek family rulz🖖🏼 Get better soon, Dom, but rest assured the fantastic work continues. ❤
I always thought Jake had one of the most tragic ending for the show, not long after losing his mother he has his father taken from him.
I agree. It was like "The Visitor" all over again! Sisko is back in the comic books!
Never forget, while only there a short time, the parents were worth missing, Jake hit the jackpot! He still had Cassidy and a half brother or sister as well
What a revelation right off the rip. Love it!
What if we replace the concept of “This is difficult” with the reality of “I don’t know any other way”, and just accept that life is going to play out how it plays out. All we can do is what we know until we know better.
Talk about deep.
As a life coach Im always keenly aware of when golden nuggets drop in the form of wisdom in the things I watch and listen to; and I love to share them in hopes of being a change agent for good in the world. This is a big chunk of gold right here that Cirroc Lofton dropped right from go.
Avery Brooks is one-of-a-kind, and nobody will ever match his vibe. But Mr. Lofton clearly exhibits a similar comfort with himself, rapport with others, and ability to connect on a deep and authentic level. Great episode-and although Dominic's seat cannot be filled, Mark was brilliant! 👏
Well, thank you. Agreed that cirroc is remarkable. I love this show and these people. I’m a poor substitute for Dominic, but I love trek.
And here comes another wisdom that's too good not to share.
No matter what you do, you have unique qualities that will always shine through. Character speaks louder than all of it, and people can see it, feel it, identify you through it.
You can't help but feel like Benjamin Sisko lives on in Jake, I mean Cirroc.
fantastic show again - Cirroc is awesome
Thats really heartwarming to hear how Avery stepped up to provide a father figure for Cirroc at a time when he was needing that in his life.
Great show. Love what y'all were able to get from Cirroc, you could tell he was really comfortable being there and it makes for a great interview/conversation.
You guys brought me great joy watching your respective Trek series. Thank you so much. Rest in peace Aaron. 🖖
Another great episode! Congrats to Erica, Mark and Connor 👏👏
It's our favorite super model Sicilian!
@@ShuttlepodShow Agree!😉👌
Thank you ❤️🚀🕺🏻
What an amazing guy Cirroc Lofton is! This was a great watch
Cirroc we love you - amazing interview. AND...FOR THE LOVE OF GOD release Connor's pilot for Futuristic Three Musketeers: Swords Versus Firearms!
These folks are great!
Cirroc's visit was awesome! Throw more shows together at the last minute if they are all like this one!
Thanks guys, for another great show. Cirroc was cool-- as always and when you add in the Trek talk, you have a real winner!
Awesome
The "Econ and Me" rap is still stuck in my head: "Econ, Econ, talkin' 'bout Econ!" 😀
As an aspiring actor, this series has been super helpful in that aspect too!
An excellent, truly enjoyable conversation. Thank you all involved.🖖
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Thank you ! I’m so happy to of found this channel. I’m a longtime “everything and anything about Star Trek” fan.
Great show as always. Thank you
When does he turn into Tony Todd?
I'm really never going to come to terms with how many of you collectively had not watched Trek!
A good part of how Sisco became my favorite captain was getting to see him in more dimensions, father, friend, warrior, and husband and while its hard to be "the kid" in that kinda shadow, you certainly beat Will/Wesley.
Many of us also mourn the loss of Aaron, watching you two grow up on the show as Nog and Jake has so many of us so sad at his absence in our world now.
I for one would love to follow the Jake Sisco the writer in his future endeavors.
I love the thoughts on the kids in the business. A solid point that is even worse with some that have been abused well above the simple deviation to their choice in life.
I’ve seen every frame of every trek show and movie. 🖖🚀🕺🏻
Great show. Great guest. Thanks all. ❤
While my introduction to Star Trek fandom, although a fan since the 1960s, was Wills The Ready Room, my introduction to CZcams and podcast Trek shows was the Seventh Rule. I really liked Cirroc’s comment about how the industry works with kids. There are just so many stories of how it can go wrong, and I am sure it is worse for bipoc child actors as well.
Mr. Lofton’s idea of the drugs at Quarks bar - oh my god - what a good idea. Yes, it is similar to the Next Generation episode - perhaps - but I think that was a missed opportunity to reflect on our society.
I am looking forward to the 7th Rule’s viewing of Next Gen with Denise Crosby. I’m also looking forward to your episode with her - making my way there. Missed Dominic of course - loved Cirrocs shout out!
Thanks again for a great conversation.
Avery Brooks left such a large impression on him, Cirroc's intellectual pauses look like The Sisko's
Ho yeah, him just talking is reminiding me a lot of Avery Brooks.
Wait Connor does those portraits??? 😮
Loved loved loved this episode ❤🎉
Thank you, Kariné. No, Connor was joking. Trek and Shuttlepod Show fan/family member Tiff does our guest art. She’s fantastic.
@@ShuttlepodShow oh wowww 👏👏👏 to Tiff then! the cool portraits are one of my favorite things I look forward to each week😍
Absolutely superb conversation. So enlightening. Here's to a humanisitc future
We just found your channel, we are loving this episode the most, so far
The real question is, does Jolene return Connor's calls? It'd be a delight to see our trio reunited (Dom, get well soon!).
Hahahaha. Awesome.
I'm sure Ciroc will be in the next episode of Lower Decks.
Omg, I just got to the convention story part and last time (listening to these out of order), with Nicole, Connor was going after baristas. This episode, he's going after convention security folk! The slander! The outrageous slander~~
😂
This was great...I've missed seeing you, Conner... The Sisko "Kid" kicked ass!
Thank you for the show it was great and the mention for my city of Gary, Indiana.
I was surprised that no one brought up the DS9 episode "The Visitor." It's a fabulous show about the timeless bond between a father and son. It brings tears to my eyes whenever I watch it.
Amazing ep! Cirroc is awesome. Celebrating my birthday today with a little drinkypoos and the Shuttlepod Show! God I feel old 😅
Happy Birthday, Michael!!
@@ShuttlepodShow Thank you 😊
Great chat, loved the episode, can't wait for the next one. P.S get well soon Dom
That was fun!!
Excellent point on child labor leading to some kind of career development program.
Cirroc looking good. Nice to see more than just his face lol. I want more trek podcast crossovers
Man Cirroc looks so different now. I would never have recognized him if he wasn't name dropped.
Another great episode!
Cirroc is a lot more down to Earth then I expected.
I was expecting something like Avery Brooks who comes of we boarder line insane in interviews.
P.s. what happened to Dominic? Did he get hurt doing something?
Thanks guys - these shows are great! esp for "legacy fans" like myself love them all - its like eve-dropping on some nice warm reunions
Glad you like it. Thank you.
I just discovered this. This is great. I'm gonna watch/listen to this while I model.
Welcome! Glad you’re here, Jerry
Cirroc...what a great guy! Love this one!
These are some great conversations with our favorite actors. Thank you so much!
Glad you like them! Thank you!
Scarface! 💀💀💀 I never laughed so hard in my life! So after the show I looked into it. A few years ago, in an interview, Pacino denied the substance in Scarface was actually drugs. He did add that whatever it was made problems for his nose. Not just through the shooting, but still today.
As always another great Interview.
Oh I so agree with Connor! The Rockford Files theme is a favourite for me, too! And his firebird.
I knew instantly what Cirroc was talking about when he mentioned Avery growing up in Gary, Indiana. That city has been up and down the list of worst cities for decades.
Lovely episode. Thanks so much