Jewish Nazi Hunters - WW2 Documentary Special
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- In March 1945 the first Jewish unit in the Allied forces reaches the frontline. Before fighting the Nazis, the men spent years battling against the policies of the British government. After the war, they will take vengeance on the perpetrators of the Holocaust and join the Zionist movement in building and fighting for Israel.
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Hosted by: Spartacus Olsson
Director: Astrid Deinhard
Producers: Astrid Deinhard and Spartacus Olsson
Executive Producers: Astrid Deinhard, Indy Neidell, Spartacus Olsson
Creative Producer: Marek Kamiński
Community Management: Ian Sowden
Written by: Gianluca Fantoni and James Newman
Research by: Gianluca Fantoni
Map animations by: Daniel Weiss
Map research by: Sietse Kenter
Edited by: Karolina Dołęga
Artwork and color grading by: Mikołaj Uchman
Sound design by: Marek Kamiński
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Mikołaj Uchman
Source literature list: bit.ly/SourcesWW2
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Image sources:
Yad Vashem: 4922/106, 4922/99, 5129, 4922/72, 4922/107, 4922/104, 7636/8, 4922/100, 9227/9, 4922/92, 1644/116
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London - Howard Harper-Barnes
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Ominous - Philip Ayers
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Weapon of Choice - Fabien Tell
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You guys should do an episode on the people of Jewish heritage serving in the wehrmacht.
As you might guess, it's a really fucking tragic subject, but there is an excellent book about it called "Hitlers Jewish soldiers", by Brian Mark Rigg.
In my opinion this is exactly the type of complex and lesser known history that you guys excel at, and which really deserves to be disseminated more broadly, so I hope you find the time.
*Expulsion* of 750,000 Arabs on the creation of Israel; is "expulsion" really correct - didn't most leave due to their own leaders' scaremongering about Jewish cruelty?
@@gustavchambert7072we’ve covered that in an out of the foxholes video, and it’s really more sensationalism than a story relevant to the war.
@@nemo6686that’s a vast oversimplification here the full story: Did the British Start the Israel-Palestine Conflict? - History Documentary
czcams.com/video/6MVz5MBNqsw/video.html
@@spartacus-olsson How can it be "a vast oversimplification" to ask a simple question about a single word - to which you respond with condescension rather than an actual answer?
Still have trouble understanding how a small CZcams channel can do some of the best research on difficult subjects that I’ve ever seen. Thanks for your hard work.
We are very lucky to have a strong and dedicated team, thank you for the kind words!
Small!? This is the Time Ghost Army we're talking about.
One of those Jewish Soviet soldiers is my grandfather, 18 years old Red Army air defense officer that survived the siege of the Leningrad.
Many of Israel's first air force personnel were veterans of the soviet military. And they were greatly appreciated in Israel.
israel isnt a real country
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@@gedeon2696for settler colonial purposes
You should do a special on the Camp Richie boys. These were fluent German speakers who interviewed German prisoners to get practical tactical intelligence and briefed American commanders on exactly what they would face in future attacks. Many of the soldiers were Jews who fled Germany in the 1930's. One of the most effective interrogators was a former German High School teacher who knew exactly how to talk to German boys to get them to recite what they knew.
Read a book on them recently. Very interesting. One of the guys died recently.
@@pagodebregaeforro2803What is the book's name?
My grandfather was an American-born Ritchie Boy, and they did far more than interrogations. They went behind enemy lines. This was the American version of the British X Commandos or X Troops. Nicknamed the "Ritchie Boys," before the State Dept threatened these very war heroes with court martial should they ever utter a word about what they actually did during the war to even their family until 2008 (a decade after my grandfather died) - after Camp Ritchie Maryland where they started training before the US officially joined the war effort. He first fought in North Africa in Operation Torch, and helped liberate Egypt (the first allied victory of the war) in Operation Magic Carpet, then off to Europe where he fought in Battle of the Buldge, D-Day, and was entrusted around detained high-ranking Nazi SS Officers... He did his people justice against these war criminals that knew they were going to get away with it.
Those who want to know more of the real story (maybe someday the State Dept will stop blocking the full story from being told), see the following 2 Documentaries:
• *The Ritchie Boys* (only avail on CZcams for now)
• *The Real Inglorious Bastards* (Amazon Prime)
Also see excellent documentary on the British Counterpart, the X-Troops:
• *About Face: Jewish Refugee Soldiers in the Allied Forces* (Amazon Prime, VUDU)
There are personal biographies of Ritchie Boys that've been blackballed from publishing, so distribution and access is very limited. Several authored by their children that vary in quality & accuracy that I have to read before recommending - however, if you want the most detailed account of one incredible Jewish X Commando's story (under the X Troops, a Jewish special forces unit whose operations are still classified by Britain until 2045), forced to be published as "fiction" for legal reasons, I highly recommend: *The Last of the Seven*
_Note: the Audiobook is incredible_
Another recent book on British X Troop Commandos I haven't read yet:
• *X Troop: The Secret Jewish Commandos of WWII*
What is the name of the former high-school teacher?
I've become so accustomed to Sparty's amazing voice, I'd love to hear him do an audio book, like LOTR
That would be a cool idea, thanks for watching!
@@WorldWarTwoWould love that!
Agreed. Both Indy and Sparty have good voices and are really good at hosting videos and reading scripts. You can feel the emotion in their voices.
@@WorldWarTwo So the follow upto the end of the World War Two series is the war of the rings told day by day ........ could take a while to get to the end of that one..
Andy Serkis has done LOTR's though I do agree Sparty could do it. More food for thought is... That the talent they have got they could use other people to do other characters. So take for example Andy Serkis, some characters he struggles with which is understandable. So for these guys/girls; bring in the talent they have. 😉
Always remember the last part of the BBC documentary 'Auschwitz. The Nazis. And the final solution'. Where they had a brief interview with a man who had been one of those who hunted Nazis. And he then went onto be a member of the snatch squad that got Eichmann out of Argentina. The interviewer asked him 'do you regret any of the things you did?'. He replied 'No. I only regret the things I didn't do.'
I saw a documentary about Auschwitz.
On The last episode they interviewed this one Guy who was in The Jewish brigade. When Eichmann was captured and was on trial in Israel this Guy asked If he could Be The hangman.
Israeli government politely declined. That Guy was a hoot.
One of the more interesting aspects in the book about The Brigade is that when the orders came to disband the Brigade, some of its members found Jewish refugees who resembled themselves and had those ringers return to Palestine in place of the "real" soldiers. The "real" soldiers then took up civilian identities and continued to hunt and execute Nazis in Europe.
Where did you hear about what you said.
It was in the book "The Brigade."
My grandfather was in the brigade
Thank you for sharing and thanks for watching!
Thanks for talking about the Jewish Brigade. My Granduncle was a major on the brigade HQ staff in WWII, and they never get enough credit for their actions during the later stages of the war.
October 2052: "I'm Indy Neidell this is The Cold War in Real Time: this week the Yom Kippur War begins!"
I really recommend the video on Indy's old channel, The Great War, for details on the long story short that Sparty cut!
which episode may i ask?
@@CannibaLouiST“How Zionists Came To Palestine Under British Protection”. It's presented by the "new" host (the video itself is two years old already), Jesse Alexander.
A number of Irgun fighters and Jewish Brigade soldiers came from Polish Anders Army that evacuated Soviet Union and came to Palestine via Iran. Some of early Israeli politicians came from that source as well.
Menachem Begin was a prisoner of the NKVD (in his detention photos he looks like he has not had a square meal for a while). He was allowed to join the Anders Army and leave the Soviet Union. Before and after he did not have much time for Poland but at this point the Polish connection was useful.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menachem_Begin#/media/File:Menachem_Begin_in_September_1940.jpg
Leon Uris's " Exodus " a must see movie in 1960;s.
Main character in the movie was an 'amalgam' of Moshe Dayan AND Itzchak Rabin. Movie was 'based' on fact but was fiction.
@@gedeon2696 yeah, I like the line from Paul Newman that states something about Arab and Jew will Live side-by-side. But that might’ve been the funeral scene. Which was prophetic I suppose. Imagine, living there for generations, and then the remnants of Central and European Jews. Come there by force to invade your homes and properties. Tragic.
Great job Sparty and happy to hear your correct pronunciation of all the Italian places. This channel is amazing and inspiring
AS others mentioned, the 51st Commando and SIG fought in NorthAfrica campaigns.
And jewish doctors in the Finnish army were even offered the "Iron Cross" by the germans but the medals were refused. Finland refused to turn over its jews to the germans. While in the East, many jews in the Soviet forces (all branches) earned high decorations for bravery.
Good work!! The Jewish resistance to the Nazis is often overlooked in the history of WW2. Good job!!
Thank you for discussing this! As many know both of my grandfathers fought (B-17 pilot in 44-45 for my moms father, my dads dad was a Merchant Marine). They were very proud being Jewish (my grandfather specifically flying over Germany) and proud to serve!
Thank you for the lesson.
And thanks for watching.
"Be careful when fighting monsters, lest you become one." Humans seems to be unique in being able to fashion imaginary differences between people and then perpetrating the most horrible kinds of violence against other humans in the names of those imaginary differences. Thank you again, Sparty and crew!
Out of curiosity, is this quote referring to any one event or group?
@namgilesile6224 Friedrich W. Nietzsche the quote is a reminder that those who engage in a struggle against oppression must be careful not to become consumed by their anger and frustration. If they do, they risk becoming the very thing they are fighting against.
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"Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you."
-Friedrich Nietzsche
@@sirhenrymorgan1187 Yes, and this is relevant to/because of?
And how could it fit when talking about the jews combating the frigging nazies?
@@dusk6159 I was responding to the person who asked what the quote the OP gave was from.
Also, these Nazi hunters would go on to force Palestinians out of their homes. "He who fights monsters..."
Hi Sparty.
Awesome special episode.
Amazing research
Thanks
This was a great episode to give a look at part of the background for the conflict going on now.
Thank you for another excellent episode Sparty. And thanks to Gianluca for his exceptional research for this episode. I am going to look up his writing on the Jewish Brigade as it is something that personally interests me as a proud Jew and Zionist (two words that are sadly being slandered in today's world). I have boosted this episode among my 26,000 followers on X and hope they not only watch the episode, but also join me in the becoming a member of the Time Ghost Army. it is episodes like this one that are grounded in fact and history that make me proud that I am doing my part and contributing to your amazing efforts.
G' morning,Sparty!
Its snowing here in colorado today. I love springtime in the rockies. Much like springtime in the alps, i suppose.😎
Such a complex situation... never forget...
Great work as usual! Anyway, I have a question. Since you've covered most of the Jewish suffering and it's heroes after that suffering, I was hoping that you can enlighten to the World of a man named Blagoje Jovović. That man was Serbian and he hunted down and killed Croatian Ustaša leader named Ante Pavelić in Argentina on the 10th of April 1957. The assassination of Pavelić was to be on the 9th of April (the day of founding of Independent State of Croatia), but due some complications it was postponed for the next day. So I was hoping that Spartacus and team will cover this story when they have time. Until the next episode, greetings!
Argentina (and Paraguay) - the 'haven' for ex-nazis of all kinds !!
I remember a British TV documentary in 1980, around the time of Tito's death, that accused the Yugoslav state security organisation UDBA of running a campaign of assassinations of exiled Croatian nationalists.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directorate_for_State_Security_(Yugoslavia)
@@stevekaczynski3793 Yeah, typical British way of telling a story. Now, Blagoje Jovović did work for UDBA, however Josip Broz Tito and his Commumists covered all they could about the Ustaša genocide in Independant State of Croatia in WW2. So, Jovović's story (not know at the time) is still blury because that assassination of Pavelić wasn't part of regular UDBA work at the time. Most of UDBA employees at that time hunted down the remains of King's army, aka Yugoslavian Army in it's Motherland lead by Dragoljub Draža Mihajlović.
Have you read, "The Brigade: An Epic Story Of Vengence, Salvation, And WWII." By. Howard Blum?
Excellent episode.
Thanks for watching!
Being Jewish myself, I learned something new today. Thank you, Sparty!
On behalf of Spartacus, thank you.
-TimeGhost Ambassador
Thank you for covering this topic.
Thank you very much!
I knew about the Brigade, but I thought it had been formed much earlier in the war. I must have confused it with No. 51 Commando and SIG (Special Interrogation Group). Thanks for the clarification.
The "Buffs Palestinians" of the 8th army were formed much earlier. My late father served there.
@@gedeon2696Thanks for the additional input.
you should make a video about 10 troop, filled with refugee german speaking jews. There is a great book by Leah Garrett about it. "X Troop the secret jewish commandos who helped defeat the nazis"
Please include the "Buffs Palestinians" who were Jewish soldiers in the 8th army service corps [my late father served 1939 - 1945].
Thank you I really appreciate all your efforts
Thank you for your comment and continued support. Greetings to Texas!
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Fun fact, Magneto was a Nazi hunter after WW2 until the Cuban Missile Crisis
Magneto isn't real bro.
@@talkingmudcrab718Someone needs to look at Episode 187 B
Excelsior!
@@talkingmudcrab718doesn't make it any less of a fun fact
Blood and Honor, which will be spilled first?
Wow, how boring 😂
Fun fact. In terms of WW2 the Jewish brigade is the first all Jewish unit to serve with the allies but in WW1 2 Jewish units were raised to serve in the British army at separate times. The Zion Mule Corps served at Gallipoli and the Jewish Legion, comprising 3 battalions of Jews from Britain, America, Argentina, Canada, France, Russia and the Yishuv served as part of the Palestine campaign of 1918
superb job Sparty. I knew none of this
Thank you.
And thanks for watching.
Its amazing that a man who has been recounting such tradgedies and terror that has occured during ww2 would priase men who'd inflict similar terror onto others in their british colonization project.
Seriously jumping the timeline but does TimeGhost have any (even vague) plans to cover the post-war the Nazi War criminals?
I think Sparty, if not someone else, said they would be talked about in a WWII epilogue.
I don't blame the Jewish Avengers one bit for wanting revenge on the Nazi's and what they did to their brethren.
I don't either. But I also can't blame the children of Gazans being bombed and starved today if they draw the same lesson.
@@lawsonj39Horrible analogy. Gazan children are raised to hate and kill Jews. Jews were never educated to hate and kill Germans. No equivalence. Your moral relativism is so weak here buddy.
I absolutely enjoy Spartacus's WW2 story-telling ! This brilliant Gentlleman would surely be great with a lot of differemt subject's / topics ! He has "this way" of always drawing you in & most of the time, it's in a suddle way ! Thank you Sir !
Where's Brad Pitt?
A river there chief
Where's the bear jew?
We are no longer in the era of Mandatory Palestine and now in the era of Optional Palestine.
We need an episode on the Malgré Nous, the french people force recruited in the SS
Ah yes, let me watch this TimeGhost video before the YT censor Nabobs weigh in on the content.
This does an excellent job of explaining why Palestine/Israel is so messed up today. Thank you for your service in providing the education we need
I got the book. It is awesome.
Gianluca is a great writer, thanks for watching!
My late father was in the RN and involved in stopping the boats bringing Jews to Palestine. His view was that everyone there hated us - the Jews, the Arabs, and all points in between and that, after living through WW2, no-one wanted to die in a desert trying to keep two groups of people apart, when it was clear to all that there was only room for one. A sad tale; many British and Commonwealth servicemen died there up until 1948, pretty much for nothing.
Sorry for the poor humour, but Israel isn't nothing.
@@TukozAkiTrue now, but at the time it was just two tribes going to war - and at a time when most Jews in the UK were not that supportive of the zionist idea, just wanting to live their lives as a Brit who just happened to be Jewish, rather than CofE, RC, Hindu, or whatever. Things change.
@@alanlawson4180 British influence in the world significantly declined after WW2, and the British Mandate in Palestine lacked US backing. Terrorist attacks on British personnel, notably by Irgun and LEHI, reduced further any British desire to stay, and so they departed.
IIRC (from reading Wikipedia, admittedly) some Jewish soldiers in this unit rocked up to recently-liberated camps and said something to the effect of "Sup, y'all wanna hop on a ship to Palestine? Them brits won't be getting to you."
No Stiglitz?? :/
Dear Spartacus,
the Arab Israeli conflict is long and terrible. But its not the longest nor the bloodiest in the middle east. The main Jewish fithing organization was the Hagana (the defense). Far larger than the one you mentioned. the Hagana later became to be the IDF. They never supported killing British armi personal during the years between WW2 and the Israeli Independence war. Even when people from these organizations where murdered and tortured by the British armi.
Don't forget the Palmach, many of whose men were trained by Capt Orde Wingate in his Special Night Squads.
Indeed ! Capt Wingate did provide essential training to a senior group of Palmach guys. They passed the know-how across.
During the 1st part of the Independence war, when we had very little weapons, night fighting was the main course of action.
Today, I live close by the Wingate institute. The national Israeli sport center, named after the late Wingate.
It is said that the Avengers killed Peiper ( The Nazi who committed the Malmedy Massacre)
Hard to say - the local French Communist Party publicised the fact Peiper lived in the small French town of Traves, and about three weeks before his death the CP daily newspaper L' Humanite ran a major article about it. Peiper had found it difficult to hold down a job in a West Germany full of US servicemen, and living in France had given him a bit more anonymity - until his presence was revealed.
@@stevekaczynski3793 oh really wow
I wonder if Spartacus will host videos on the new channel about the Korean War....
Right now we are planning for Indy to focus on the Korean War channel, and Sparty will be focusing on our other new series. A history of democracy, starting with the Weimar Republic.
Truth has no agenda. Learn from it.
It is interesting that British Jews opposed Zionism and very few joined the Jewish brigade. and what were the non-Jewish personnel and officers doing when the Jewish soldiers were being involved in this illegal smuggling and avenging actions?
The non-Jewish personell had by then mostly been transferred to other units.
Zionist relations with the British Mandate in Palestine were tense (and in the case of groups like LEHI, openly violent) and British Jews were sometimes conflicted as a result.
"So that we can all learn from the past to build a better future". Some have and did, but most of the world's current conflicts come from those who refuse to learn from the past. Until the world no longer has people like this there will be conflict with only the size and intensity varying. Let go of your past and build your future.
People living in refugee camps after zionists kicked them out of their homeland: great happy feelings, I feel much better now that I forgot
@@Francisco-ow6bl The Jews aren't going anywhere. They have to learn to make peace in a shared homeland, but they're not leaving
Thanks for the Video. It never occured to me that the Jews in Palestine also called themselves Palestinians :)
Are we getting a War against Humanity episode this week? Operation Meeting House comes to mind
I’m down with a pretty bad head cold, but doing my best to get well to film
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What kind of feedback do y'all get from the professorial types in academia? I would assume that alot of teachers and professors really grove on all that y'all have accomplished.
Your work could be considered a textbook. College level, even.
Again, a world heritage.
Are there any colleges or universities that use, or will use, your work as a primary reference in the future.
One of my heros is Louis L'amour. He eventually became a professor emeritus at at least one university because of the historical accuracy of his fictional novels.
He had a 9th grade education. No more. At least not formally.
You, Indy, and your team are deserving of, at the minimum, this kinda recognition.
Are you getting it?
A distinct Jewish brigade was a good idea.Maybe better would have been to form all-Jewish battalions within existing British formations,maybe wearing the Star of David,to enhance morale etc.I doubt they would have felt much sympathy certainly for any Waffen-SS units they came up against.
Thanks for maintaining a balanced perspective as always. Although it should be mentioned that the expulsion of hundreds of thousands of Arab Palestinians was accompanied by thousands of civilian Arab deaths - a grim beginning that has echoed with deafening volume at the time this video airs.
Hello. I think it should be mentioned that while hundreds of thousands of Palestinian Arabs left or were expelled from Palestine, a similar number of Jews left or were expelled from surrounding Arab nations. The idea that Israel single handed lay perpetrated a massive act of ethnic cleaning and murder is misleading albeit not without a great deal of historical justification. However this was not isolated. Arab nations did virtually the same thing at the time, as well as Palestinian Arabs within what would become the state of Israel. During the concurrent partition of the British Raj, ethnic cleanings and tragic death were all too common, and yet it would be unreasonable to declare India or Pakistan more guilty of committing an act both sides perpetrated, might I add with far higher mortality rates than the mass migrations of Jews and Arabs occurring at the same time.
Watch the video we linked to… we go into it all there. Did the British Start the Israel-Palestine Conflict? - History Documentary
czcams.com/video/6MVz5MBNqsw/video.html
@@namgilesile6224the reason we don’t get into it is that it’s not as simple as the immediate effects of the Arab Israeli War. Moreover it takes place over a longer time. That’s not saying that this makes it any better, just more complicated to assign to a single event.
@@namgilesile6224 And don't forget the many arabs killed by other arabs [Haj Amin El Husseini] during the 1947-1948 war.
@@spartacus-olssonthanks
[sarcasm] Oh yes, god forbid there be people exclusively devoted to intellectual activities!
It's interesting that it seems that former Polish Jews from Anders's Army did not join the brigade in force
Not certain, but believe they joined the the Free Polish Army.
@@gedeon2696 those who deserted from it when they were in Palestine
it is a tangled web, is it not.
but it does all come down to 3 things.
montheism. zealotry. and the nation-state.
individually they can be dangerous.
when combined? deadly.
never forget.
never again.
There was a movie "Exodus".
Great movie with a great score
@@rumrunner8019 Somewhat toned down from the novel by Leon Uris, which is predictably anti-Arab and not very friendly to the British either.
There is a saying attributed to Karl Kraus(died in 1936)-
"If you take all the weapons out of the world, the world will remain, but if you take the weapons away from the Jews, there will be none left."
Sadly, despite the ongoing situation, it seems always the case. Even now, Jews who are not even living in Israel, are taking the wrath of volatile protests across the globe.
Never again. Never forget.
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Ingloirus Basterds in RL lol
"I love rumours! Facts can be so misleading, but rumours, true or false are often misleading"
The comment section will definitebely be interesting.
Zapanjujuće je kako neko moze od žrtve da postane dželat.
It's called justice.
@@lowell418 Well, the ICJ called it a crime.
The "Irgun" is the "Etzel"
The national militarized organization
"Irgun" just means Organization
That’s not quite right… the full formal name is Irgun Zwai Leumi - the acronym IZL is spoken as Etzel - however, colloquially and in their own parlance they’re just the Irgun.
They actually called it "Irgun" Because they wanted to keep the real name "Etsel" a secret. Besides that I'm quite sure most of the jewish bregade when comming home joined the Hagana that was the dominant organization and collaborated with the British in the context of WW2 - like endorsing the creation of the bregade
@@Turnipstalk No it doesn't the Hagannah means "the defence". My point was that Sparki said that some of those of the Jewish bregade joined the Etsel while true, most of them joined the Haganah when they returned to Israel
@@gidonteff245 first of all, Sparki?! Really?
Anyway… that’s what I said. “Some join the terror group Irgun and carry out deadly bombings against British targets. Virtually all of the Jewish Brigade soldiers will go on to fight in the Arab-Israeli War in 1948 and as many as 35 of them become generals in the Israeli Defence Force.”
If your fighting for Israel in 1948, you’re fighting for what had been the Haganah and was becoming the IDF.
Sorry, Spartacus, first of all I really appreciate what you are doing even though I liked the background you had before better then the fake background you have now.
About your name again sorry, but that's what you get for having a long Roman name and a lazy responder.
And as I said you were not wrong just not completely accurate, it would have been more accurate to say "few of them joined the Etsel (which was a much smaller group) but most of them upon return joined the Hagganah and the IDF that was created later "-- because some of them came back before 1948 and some after
Something something Nazi scalps…
The british always considered ALL non-british troops as "colonials" - Canadians, ANZACS, Indians (incl Ghurkas), etc. And credited 'pure british' units with the victories gained by those 'colonials'!
Never forget!
I got to say that it's really difficult to summon up any sympathy or compassion for Nazis. I mean, I recognize the "war crime" aspect of it and the argument of not being guilty of the same crimes as your oppressors, yada, yada.... but, nah; I still test negative for sympathy.
Glad you covered this Sparty. I've always been interested in this. The idea of "Jewish revenge" was a big reason why German soldiers held out so long. Never forget. Thanks Sparty!
This was played up by Goebbels. It was mostly projection when he talks about what the Jews would do he was outlining what the Germans already did. There was no equivalent of an Auschwitz by Jews only the Germans did that.
Considering how the Brits and many of the Palestinian Jews alike were already pretty much thinking about a pre-emptive war between them and the Arab Palestinians, it's clear just how animosity between the two sides had been boiling over at this point.
I mean, really it already ‘boiled over’ before being put ‘back in the kettle’ after the Second World War. Massive Palestinian Arab pogroms and massacres against Jewish settlements as well as concurrent Jewish pseudo-terror attacks on British infrastructure has reached a climax in the mid/late 1930s. This resulted in the White Papers being issued (as Sparty briefly referenced in his quotation of another source) which heavily restricted Jewish immigration in an attempt to reduce future violence, not be resolving tensions but by artificially speaking the demographic influence of one side.
@@namgilesile6224 It certainly doesn't help that the colonial undertones are only enraging the Arabs even more, as well as the denial to establish in independent state in the aftermath of WW1
@@extrahistory8956 yes, the Jews as well. Both rioted and attacked and appealed to the Brits. Also, the British did go back on their word to Arabs in regards to promises made during World War One, but Arabs still got their own state in the form of Saudi Arabia. While it was smaller than expected and was ruled by a dynasty that conquered that which the British originally negotiated with, at least the Arabs broadly speaking got something. Palestinian Arabs and Jews were in my opinion the groups that really were cheated the most critically.
@@namgilesile6224 That makes no sense. By that logic, we could ethnically cleanse all Austrians and force them all to live in Germany under the logic that their culture is similar enough, so they don't deserve another country, right?
33rd, 8 March 2024
Revenge is a powerful motivation
Dear Spartacus, Shalom from Jerusalem, ISRAEL. Mr. Lowell Joseph Gallin
Avengers... it's still murder tho
The word avengers doesn't necessarily have a positive conotation.
My friend always liked to say "payback is a real bitch" !
_"We will be cruel to the Germans, and through our cruelty they will know who we are."_
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Aldo Raine is a fictional character. This channel is about history.
"The Jewish Avengers Who Hunted Nazi Murderers"
Does that mean, that they hunted people who murdered Nazis?
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Are you being deliberately obtuse? To a native English speaker (myself) and in the context of this comment section, "Hunted Nazi Murderers" reads as Nazis who were murderers. Hope that clarifies.
Nazis who were murderers. I'm sure they also killed basically any German they strongly suspected of any act of violence against Jewish civilian populace, not just proven murderers.
The Emir of Palestine was the one who told all those people to leave so the Arab legion could destroy Israel., you see how that went.
Not the 'Emir', but the 'Mufti" and not the Arab Legion [of Jordan] but the Mufti's gang and family [who killed more arabs than they killed Jews].
@3:19 John Oliver in WW2 or did generic Brit just look like that.
The comment section is going to be lit
Not really, this is history
because IT IS history ! @@andmos1001
Even in Diaspora, we will not surrender peacefully.
Very good video Sparty but something I hate (that SO many people do) is when talking about Israel moving Muslims from where they were living in the 1949 war that it is completely skipped over that all the Muslim nations from Africa to the Middle East expelled all the Jews living in their nations from their homes. The difference between how those Jews and Muslims were treated though is Israel gladly took in the Jews from around the world that were being kicked out of their homes that many lived in for hundreds of years. While the Muslims that were forced to move from the war that was actually taking place where they live were not just denied the option to move to a neighboring Muslim nation such as Egypt. But they were actually actively forced to remain in tent cities by those neighboring Muslim nations as their political policy. Which is something I think is just so actively skipped over during arguments on the Israel-Palestine situation. Again though, not something just you guys are guilty of doing (you did it very close to the end of this video), just something that annoys me and can't help but point it out.
It’s a fair gripe. It’s an issue that isn’t as easy to directly attribute to the Arab-Israeli War, since it has more reasons than just the conflict, and happens over a longer time. That doesn’t babe it any better, or right, but it makes it harder to boil down to a single sentence - we (I) should be better than to shy away from that challenge though. I’ll think of that next time I need to bring up that war.
Very true. Yet another confirmation of the fact that any state based on a single ethnicity or a single religion will inevitably display a tendency toward "cleansing" its "second-class" citizens--i.e., that such a state will inevitably tend toward fascism.
Those who were forced is a tradgedy. However its often overlooked that israel made deals to forcible have some of those jews sent to israel.
The muslim states accepting the expelled would only benefit israel. The displaced want to return home. And refugees are always a burden on the hosts.
Obstacle to assimilation? Lol
"Each and every man under my command owes me one hundred Nazi scalps. And I want my scalps. And all y'all will git me one hundred Nazi scalps, taken from the heads of one hundred dead Nazis. Or you will die tryin'." - Aldo Raine in Inglorious Basterds
Before this date wasn’t there a Jewish, Arab Brigade in the Middle East ?
Tell me you didn't watched the video without telling me you didn't.
How many of those expelled Palestinians left because they were told by the Arab armies to get out of the way of the fighting and that they'd be back soon?
Ethnic cleansing is ethnic cleansing tho, no matter what the opposing army promised...
@@extrahistory8956 That army telling them to get out of the way was literally on their side because they were told they could go back once they'd won.
@@creatoruser736 It didn't really matter what the armies said. Most Arab Palestinians had lived there for generations and they were refused access back to their homes even after the conflict concluded. It's a rather sad affair
@@extrahistory8956 No what's sad is that after the Arb displaced those people by starting a war they then never let them resettle and kept telling them they could return someday. To this day the demand that Palestinians not only have a country but return to the literal location where their grandparents left, even if that place is in Israel, has stymied any peace efforts. All because they started a war they didn't need to and ruined countless lives for it.
@@creatoruser736 How exactly did that prevent the Israeli government from letting them return back home after the war ended?
15:10 As of March 10, 2024, if Ukrainians whose families were killed by Russian war crimes kill Russian war criminals with their own hands, are they criminals ❓❓ Are we qualified to blame them ❓❓
The killing of anyone off the battlefield, outside of regular military action is a crime according to international law, and it was in 1945. That the victims were also criminals, and in the view of the perpetrators or even most people “they deserved what they got” does not change the law - murder is a crime, for whatever reason it’s perpetrated, and regardless of who the victim is.
That a people so misused could turn around a generation later and do it to another people is sad.
Starved India
Starts the Cold War
Starts the Arab Israeli conflict
What good did Churchill do in this world, again? Something about cracking one-liners?
Don't forget the mess Britain left in Cyprus when they got kicked out. And British dble-dealing in Africa (putting 1 tribe against the other). And it was Churchill's idea to attack Gallipoli in WW1.
downright badasses, heroic liberators
Salty AF
irony that usa and canada imported many naz1s.
Specialised former casual members of the NSDAP, if you please.
So did Russia and other allied nations.
@@TheGhost204Russia punished them, usa and canada glorified them.
"Palestinian Jews"
Fun fact:
The Palestinians and the Jews are literally the same people, going back over 5,000 years.
They "self separated" themselves, Jews first, when their respective religions came about.
And the fighting started not long after the people we currently call Palestinians, became Muslims.
What we have going on today is the world's longest running family feud. Literally.
Pretty much. They HATE each other.
That is a nice tale.
But factually incorrect. And dangerous, as all misinformation.
There is Truth in what you say. In that Jews and Palestinians are in theory the same people.
However, where this becomes incorrect, is that Palestinians in that historical sense - and Palestinians as it is meant today... are not the same thing. At all. To start with.
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What are you on about?
The Palestinians of today are not a different people than of the past.
And the reason the people we currently call Palestinians have been attacking the Jews for well over a thousand years is because they feel they were cheated out of their land inheritance by Abraham. (Yes, THAT Abraham)
You see, the Palestinians are descendants of Abraham's eldest, and legitimate son, while the Jews are descendants of Abraham's youngest and illegitimate son.
Buy tradition, the Palestinians should on that land, but even the Quran itself clearly states that land does in fact belong to the jews. It also States they would come back for it. Wish they did in 1948.
Any other actual history you need help with?
@@tywinlannister8015
And there is no theory about them being the same people. They are for a fact genetically related. The tests have been done. Not only that but even their holy books state that they're related.
@@lordgarion514 Genetically related. People living a same region. Wow. Shocker. That's fallacy to pretend this means anything. People living in a same region are related. I'm related to every European on the continent if you go far back enough. Yet am the same as a Croatian? Not really no.
And actually the holy books do not say any such things. I think I studied enough scripture for a lifetime to know what's in it.