Top 5 Things I HATE About The Subaru Outback
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- čas přidán 30. 11. 2018
- This is a video showing my main criticisms with this car.
A 2015-2019 Subaru Outback.
This does not mean that I don't love the car, obviously I do.
But over the years a couple complaints have popped up that are worth mentioning to others interested in this vehicle. I have owned a Gen 5 since August of 2014 so have a lot of time behind the wheel of one.
Next I plan to do a "top 5 things I love" video and then cite it on my resume to Buzzfeed. - Auta a dopravní prostředky
I disagree that it is marketed as ONLY an off road vehicle. Anyone that owns a Subaru KNOWS that they are Not crawlers. We buy them for Winter driving and I honestly do not know where you get the bad milage idea. Compaired to WHAT? You not once compaired it to ANY compairable vehicle. Most new vehicles have nanny devices all over them. If you want a true off road 4 wheel drive vehicle, you dont buy a Subaru. You buy a Jeep, or a truck, or ANYTHING ELSE . If you want a really safe car to haul your family to Grandmothers house in a snowstorm with a foot and a half of snow THATS why you buy a Subaru. So shame on the advertizers touting the Subaru as an off road wonder. Where the hell they got that idea is beyond me. I do know my wife LOVES hers. It gets her to work and back. It gets me to deer camp on back roads covered with snow. It is NOT a rock crawler. As I said. Any subaru owner can TELL you this. NO ONE buys them for crawling...no one.
I own Subaru Outback and this is my Subaru #5 and my next car will be Subaru again! Best AWD for the money I paid!
offroaders know to buy a 4runner or wrangler. subarus are just for women
You mean lesbians right?
My last 2 cars were Subaru WRX 2003 and Outback 2005. Ideal "cars". You have lots of comfort, traction and safety features without having to drive a tank. If you want to seriously offroad, get a 4Runner or LandCruiser to be able to selectively lock any/all differentials and have a low range for crawling. The downside, of course, if that any curve taken above 6 mph will make you feel about ready to tip over.
@@bobtheelectrician6692 Trust me. When you are driving through a snow storm, you want a jeep or 4runner.
It’s a car, not a tractor 🚜
Damn that's good!
You would be surprised at how solid the Forester and Outback are. They both have high clearance for a reason. I have had an Outback for 10 years and have never gotten stuck or had a problem in the snow. The interior is all quality materials, so even at 12 years old look new. Reliability is above average but not Toyota bulletproof. The Outback will go through half shaft boots, leaking oil pressure sensors and if you get an engine light on have fun finding the issue.
don684 - exactly what I'd expect if I get an Outback. A few irritating Subaru maintenance issues yet overall very solid hardware - highly functional AWD, high ground clearance AND you get low centre of gravity with the basic design. Safety over all else.
Now I wasn't expecting amazing fuel economy but that might be an issue for a car owner that has owned a few faultless Accords. It's just a matter of priorities.
@@j_freed the base engine has much better mileage than the 6 cylinder
Maybe next time you'll by a "4 WHEEL DRIVE" and leave us "AWD" drivers to enjoy our Subi's. I driven on many outback roads in central Australia and if you drive sensibly, it's a joy to drive.
And now the 5 things Subaru hates about you... Lol
Bill Amato this video is a joke. Nothing wrong with the car.
Make it 15
@@oddities-whatnot I think he was referring to the Miley Cyrus song 7 things I hate about you. I may be wrong but u fortunately that is what I first thought. The curse of living with an 11 yo granddaughter.
Wow have you heard about that wrap thing that helps you lose weight?
Very good for defay all Subaru AWD
I was laughing so hard at the "beeping" section. Haha it's a constant but those beeps have saved me quite a few times.
Glad I have the base model, so it doesn't have the blinds spot monitoring beep.
Is there anyway to switch them off??? I have an Outback from 2008 2.5 liters and I am thinking to buy a 2019 model 3.6 liters...but I don't wanna hear all those beeeppppsss!
@@lennyvalentinoSchiaretti_lvs You can turn most off, and you can also permanently control the volume on them through the driver info center in the gauge cluster. The reversing ones are actually pretty good, unless your backing against tall grass or a hill. And really, if you're driving with music up, that easily drowns out most of them. I don't mind the visual warnings, and the lane departure warnings are honestly the biggest gripe most have. When you have a narrow two lane road where you're usually riding the line unless passing someone, it gets frustrating, and I turn off the LDW. Unfortunately, most things turn back on when you restart the car.
I have a 2020 Subaru Outback. It only beeps if I have switched to another lane without signaling. The 2020 Toyota Prius beeps a lot more than my Subaru
My 2020 Subaru Outback base model gas much more gas mileage than my previous car (2010 Kia Soul)
Hate is probably too strong a word. The "beeping" seems to be the direction all cars are taking. The Outback is more like a Swiss Army Knife in my humble opinion. Good or great at most things, but not all. I'm not sure any other vehicle comes close to what an Outback can do for the price.
Exactly, it can't offer that flexibility AND have perfect fuel economy AND truck like capability.
The intentionally chosen compromises and priorities of the Outback aren't really a failing a they are a triumph. It's a true crossover. Now they just need a little more oomph out of the flat four and it's a total winner.
Hey I prefer these new beeping sounds over those loud obnoxious 2000s beeps. I KNOW THE DOOR IS OPEN!!! AHHH!!!
@Rolman80 80 what are you talking about? I never said anything about lane assist
Beeping and bells is symptomatic of our society's "Smartest guy in the room" syndrome today. All these young corporate managers today feel they know better than the average person and therefore must warn us all of any safety item that could possibly affect us in any way. I mean for sure.....what a blessing. We certainly are not smart enough ourselves to handle this . Gimme a break. The company I just retired from actually posts signs on the stairs to "Hold the handrails" !! Are you kidding me ???? Now I am not smart enough to walk down some stairs safely ????
Make them stop!
I agree about the beeping. I drive a 2017 2.5 Limited. It's always beeping, especially the lane departure (sometimes it reads cracks or road repairs as lines). But it has saved my ass a couple of times, so I tolerate it.
Agreed. I've got the same one, I've found that I can pretty much tune out the lane departure and eyesight beeps.
Can it be disconnected? While finding a outback for my wife we drove 4-5 at different dealerships. We didn’t make it a mile in the one with lane deviation before turning around. Our first and last experience with that annoyance.
Your gas millage sucks because of the knobby off road treads your using bro LOL
Jeff Morgan that is true I get 24 in the city
@Mathieu Morin we get high 20's low 30's in our 2011 on the highway and yes it sucks in the city.
Yep!
Mine is completely stock and even trying my hardest to conserve gas it sucks it right down. Highway though I'll get 430 miles to a tank doing 70-75 miles an hour.
@@jsandberg3291 thats about what we get in the winter right now
I have a 2017 Subaru Outback Limited, I love my Subaru!
How the car now? I'm looking into buying one
My 2 complains with our 2018 outback is the radio volume is unresponsive when you start the car for about 15 seconds, it is booting up. If the last person had the volume turned up, you cant lower it for 15 seconds. In certain situation it will boot up playing a podcast even though it was turned off with the radio on. On a safety complaint you can accidentally bump the paddle shift when in drive and it will down shift, on vacation doing 75, and down shifting was dangerous, if the roads were slippery could have lost control. My wife didn't know how to turn it off she hit it a second time, red line rpms...
My 2017 2.5l limited Outback makes 30-32 mpg driving on the highway with more or less constant speed. This is an excellent MPG for fully loaded large and heavy AWD vehicle! If you push any car to the top of its limit it would be nonsense to discuss about MPG.
I have an older outback 2006, same thing great hwy mpg but lousy city mpg. But I like the car.
Heavy? My 2017 2.5 barely weighs 3500 lbs. and l also get 32 mpg.
GOT 2018 IMPRESA JUST USE IT FOR WORK ETC
I DONT GO OFF ROADING
Driving 55?
Mine too. 2016 Outback premium with the 2.5L. No complaints at all on the gas mileage. The annoying feeling CVT transmission and the god awful sounding factory stereo on the other hand...
You can change beeping in your settings menu via the control on the steering wheel
The one thing, if I had to name one, that i Hate about the Outback is when the check engine light lights the cruse control does not work but just flashes it's light.
As someone else mentioned - Australia gets a full sized spare. My 2015 Outback came with 225/60 R18 Bridgestone Dueller HP Sport. There is not much space on each side which could be a problem if you change to larger rolling diameter tyre. I'm now running a slightly wider 235 width tyre and there is plenty of depth for that. I believe our right hand drive models are sourced from Japan but I doubt there would be any difference in the size and shape of the spare wheel well?
Recently bought a 2022 Outback Wilderness and that solves #1 #3 and #4
I totally agree with all the beeping of #2. What makes it even worse, things I want to default to ON (after turning it on) default to OFF (like Auto Vehicle Hold) and things I want to default OFF (after turning off) default to ON. So frustrating!
Great video and I loved the footage of #1, very good camera work!
For the warning sound you can turn it off in settings. #2 solved
@@ifillam7511 Bonus, after getting the newest TSB (for the touchscreen) they made AVH a perminant on/off icon right on the home screen. The TSB was great and fixed other things making it simpler and easier to see with aging eyes.
I purchased a new Outback in 2017. It had RAB and many other electrical problems from the start. I had it in the shop 10 times for repair. Went a total of 42 days without my car. It was a Lemon. Had to have it towed into the dealer no less than four times. Even the district service manager told me to contact Subaru Customer service to get a full refund, as they could not figure out what is wrong with the car. After months of being given the run around, Subaru customer service did not refund my money as they should have. I traded my car in, still under warranty, still not fixed. I lost over $14,000 because Subaru does not stand behind their cars. Toyota is looking better all the time.
Subaru is the best car i have.
Христо Дамянов
except for the motor!
mike larochelle there’s enhanced motors in dealerships. pretty nice
mike larochelle blows up after 100K
Juljasmah ever owned a Subaru or just assuming?
@@BuildMobiIe I have a 2015 outback with over 130,000km. I love it too - beautiful vehicle, fun to drive. Maybe Juljasmah is referring to the Subaru boxer motor's long history of head and crankcase gasket leaks and gasket blowouts (usually fatal for the engine). Or maybe the more recent issues with Forester piston ring failures. In the 80's my roommate's subaru imprezza's head/crankcase gaskets were a mess, leaking oil profusely and threatening to blow. It was too much / too costly to repair. My brother-in-law's 2012 Forester's defective piston rings damaged the bottom end, and he got rid of it. When I got my own outback, I already knew of the gasket issues and traced it to many factors - mainly increasing cylinder bore diameter (to get more displacement) without recasting/redesigning a larger bottom end case with more cylinder studs. (On CZcams, you can see most of the blown gasket damage occurring where there is no stud support and where the gasket (no stud support extending from 1 o'clock to 5 o'clock of the gasket perimeter). (I guess marketing and financial execs' pressure won over engineers' protests.) Also the vertical gasket of relatively thin aluminum engine case is not stable and supported enough to resist oil leaks over time. I knew all this before purchasing my 2015 Outback (with CVT transmission). While I have been watchful of all of this, I can say I still admire the overall engineering - especially of the AWD and center of balance (= great handling) and efficiency. 130,000km and knock on wood, we are still going with no major issues...
We don’t do much off-roading, and, if anything, I was surprised and impressed on how much the car could do rather than its limitations. The oil business was who cares for me. If you have leftover oil, save it for next time. (Actually, we have the 2.5, and have the oiled changed for us).
I agree totally about the dings and dongs. They’re so frequent that after a while you ignore them, which of course defeats their purpose.
My big gripe-we have a 2020-is the assigning of functions to the big touch screen. I have to take my eyes off the road to work things, and sometimes I miss the button on the screen or it doesn’t respond immediately. Meanwhile, the car starts to drift from the lane, and the car scolds me to “keep eyes on the road.”
Also, apparently the windshield is bit thin. A pebble I didn’t even see cracked the windshield, which was expensive to replace. Fortunately, we were covered by insurance. Folks with these cars should make sure to have glass coverage.
I have a 2015 Subaru Outback Limited 2.5 and I get 24 miles per gallon in the city and I am totally satisfied with my car I don't have any problems with it
In addition I don't use ethanol gas in it either you get less gas mileage with ethanol and less horsepower
As a 2016 Outback 3.6R owner, my 5 biggest gripes about the car are:
1. The undersized 490CCA Group 25 battery
2. Left front tire
3. Right front tire
4. Left rear tire
5. Right rear tire
First one fixed with an 840CCA Group 24 AGM battery (which fits perfectly in the battery tray. Next 4 fixed with Goodyear Eagle Enforcers.
Battery is one of the first things I change in every Subaru I've had too! I've previously installed larger batteries normally found in 6-cylinder vehicles (usually requires an upgrade of the battery terminals to suit in H4 models) and the end result is much faster crank, longer lasting battery for things like parking dashcam when the car is off, etc.
I've never had an issue with my 2019 outback battery. My daughter actually just killed it for the first time by leaving all the interior lights on in the car for two days. Most of my outbacks lights are LED but the trunk and door lights aren't. It's the original OEM battery and it's the first issue I've had with it, but I do think I'm one of the very lucky ones.
This makes me glad that I selected of 2010 Subaru outback. Has a lot less bells and whistles, a lot if you were annoying noises and it doesn’t have that distracting giant TV screen in the middle of the dashboard. If I had a newer car with one of those screens I would put a Velcro curtain over it so that I only needed to lift the curtain occasionally when I need to see the screen. On the highway I’ve had near head on collisions of people who are focused on the center of their dashboard and all of the GPS mapping and other things they are trying to adjust while going 70 miles an hour in a 55 mph zone and paying no attention to the actual road in front of them
I have a 2016 Outback and unfortunately hit a dear with the right front side of my car. The air bags were deployed front and side and the my brakes went to the floor. Luckily I was able to get to the shoulder and throw it in park. All power was gone. Any clue how I could research this?
I get 27 to the gallon on my 2.5. I live in Denver so it’s stop and go. Not an issue for me
Am a 2016 Outback owner.... overall a good experience. I think Outback owners are niche car buyers, good vehicle for handling in winter, which is big for Canada, good size for road trips, and taking on dirt road for kayaking. If I wanted an off-roader, would have bought a Wrangler. Outback is a weird station-wagon, SUV thing. It is the perfect height to get in and out of. Only issue was battery did not last long (common complaint on cargurus Outback forum), and decided not to replace with OEM. The sunroof seal, when hit by car wash jet a right angle, dripped water. And my gas flap mechanism needed replacing. When my windshield took a crack from rock on highway, I had to pay $$ to ensure the Eye-Sight camera was re-calibrated after the windshield was replaced.
I replace my windshield twice without re-calibrated eye-sight camera. They are still good.
I have a 2018 Outback 2.5T(?) and have backed into friends truck and have also hit the right rear quarter panel of an oncoming car while turning left into oncoming traffic.Both times ihad nop obstacle warning light or sound and yes they were on. has anyone noticed a similar problem?
The opposite spin problem was what made me never want another Subaru ever again. The first one I drove did this all the time; in the snow, on level wet grass, trying to get up a 1" concrete seam in ice. It drove me crazy every time I got stuck on level ground with 2 wheels just spinning.
I feel you on fuel economy, I'm currently driving an FJ Cruiser and my 1.5 mile work commute I average 9 mpg. If the temp slips below 20f I get 8 mpg. It is just horrendous on short hops where the engine never gets to full temp. I also feel you on the oil, The FJ takes 5.49 qt. yup it takes decimal qt.
The 2020+ Outback now has X-mode which eliminates this issue.
I lift up my hat for this outback
Very nice crossover actually.
Thank you my friend for this video
Thanks for watching! I appreciate it.
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Interesting to see the intent of that traction control. Every time I'm off road in my 2015, it just gets in the way and I turn it off.
Always do that offroading unless you're going faster around corners then leave it on. What he was doing it should have been off 100%
I was going to add the T/A all Terrain to my 2022 for the 3 ply side wall what is your take on the tires
I have a 2014 Outback, and my biggest complaint is the short roof rack span. Look at 23 seconds into the video - event thought the rails run from the front to the rear of the car, the usable length of the roof rack is incredibly short. If you want to mount any type of crossbar system to carry kayaks, SUPs, etc., the amount of spacing you can achieve between the front and rear cross mount bars is really tiny. Compare that to the Forester which splits the roof rack into 2 sections, allowing for a wider (and more stable) "footprint" for a roof rack system.
I think the Outback is designed this way to allow for the switchable rail system - the rails pivot to allow you to use them as regular roof rails or as cross bars. While this is nice if you have a single board to carry on your roof, it isn't ideal for aftermarket rack systems (like Thule).
This is interesting
The 2015 has a slot in the rails so you can mount it further back if need be. It also has integrated tie down loops.
Does the 2014 not have that option?
@@bruceyyyyyInteresting - on closer look, I can see the extra slots in this video. But to answer your question - no, the 2014 model doesn't have those slots. Here's a youtube video with a closeup of the 2014 rack (33 seconds in): czcams.com/video/Eb-k4Edhkh0/video.html
If it’s any consolation, my 2018 Impreza gets barely 20 mpg in the city, which is where I do most of my driving. Different story on the highway-up to 38 mpg.
I GOT 2018 IMPRESA ITS OK SO FAR LIKE 20-25 TO THE GALLON
BOUGHT IT 500 MILES ON IT
SO FAR SO GOOD
My 3.6R’s gas mileage averages around 20 with a rack on it during the winter. City driving mostly with some highway
Mine too, even with oversized 245/65/17 tires and an LPAventure lift.
I have had a Subaru forester 1997 (automatic) from new, that has been great for all the years with very little to do other than annual services. However, recently I have had a lot of vibration & shuddering on the wheels when making tight turns (left or right). It is difficult to identify which wheels the noise or shudder comes from and I don't feel much through the steering wheel. I have had all difs replace that has reduced the frequency but not always. We hope it isn't the automatic gear box but has anyone got any ideas what to do next.
Omg, dude your commentary on the constant Subaru beeping is EPIC! I literally LOL’ed and I haven’t laughed that hard in months. It is so true! Constant beeping of my 2020 crosstrek drives me nuts. Crosstrek is pretty much just a short version of an outback
3:17 I’d be happy knowing there is more oil protecting my engine against premature wear. I see this as a bonus. Regular oil changes are the lowest cost in maintaining your vehicle with the highest return on your investment. I do agree with the beeping annoyance. Seems our world has gone “beep crazy” with backup alarms so loud that you often can’t even see the vehicle that you are being warned about. Uggghhh.
Thanks for sharing this video. Cheers.
Best trick of my old manual Forester was the first gear 1000 rpm crawl through scree/snow/mud.
Limited slip diffs and viscous coupling middle were very difficult to defeat.
the scene with all the different beeps with no commentary was brilliant
Is it correct about earlier models awd diognal? How about Outback BP H6 facelift model transmissin?
bruceyyyyy - Try turning off the traction control. Traction control derates the engine HP to prevent wheel spin/slip in normal conditions. But it will also cause the car to stall on off road uphills when more HP is needed. Also the Subaru is not a Jeep Rubicon. It is a compromise design of on road and off road capabilities. Even the Jeep Rubicon sometimes needs a Warn winch to pull them out of traction disasters.
I have the 2018 Premium Outback and get 26 city and 33 highway, which is very respectable for an AWD car. The "Eyesight" nanny nags are for old foggies like me (70yrs) to keep us out of trouble. :-)
Thanks for the heads up! Traction control was off in every video. X mode was likely engaged in all of them as well.
and be ready to pay Jeep repair bills!
From what I can tell it does better with Xmode off too when it stalls like that.
Eyesight is great for the younger crowd as well that seem to be texting or playing games on their phone while driving! it keeps them from drifting out of their Lane and also from rear-ending the car in front of them when they are not paying attention.
You can disable traction control in X mode? I didn't know that.
I’m dying laughing when he talks about the sounds 🤣🤣🤣
2.5 or 3.6?
How about how long it takes the cv trans. to engage drive or reverse from park compared to a regular automatic? It seems like it takes forever. I have a legacy but I imagine the outback has the same trans as they are almost the same car.
I haven't noticed this.
Could you describe it?
Mine takes about a second to go from drive to reverse or reverse to drive.
Seems about as normal as any other car.
@@bruceyyyyy crashstone34 Yep, pain in the rear. Reverse out of your driveway, shift into Drive then wait about 3-4 secs for it to engage. EVERY other auto I've had was fairly instantaneous.
There was a noticeable delay in the 10-14 transmission but some changes for the 15 seemed to eliminate most of the delay.
I loved the honorable mention. The amount of times people have told me I have a headlight out because of that turn feature. It's functional for unlit winding backroads, though.
You know there’s a button to turn the SRF off, right?
Love the turning headlights on our winding country roads. You really can see what's approaching easier.
Hah! I have a 2015 outback with the eye sight and I laughed so hard at the beeps. It's true.
Same here. You learn to minimize the beeps. Lol
Can’t believe that you didn’t mention the useless integrated roof bars. The cross bars are too close together, the bars are too flimsy to take any useful weight and worst of all, there are no holes in the chunky plastic roof rails for tie down straps/ropes.
As for the spare tyre, a full size spare (with wheel well to match) is standard on all Australian market Subarus.
I actually like the integrated roof rack bars and think it's a better option for 90%+ of Subaru's consumer base.
The few that the integrated bars don't work for would likely not stick with the old style factory bars regardless so it's a big win for Subaru in my book.
You're right about the lack of holes. You can easily drill them though. The rails are just plastic. Just mark the holes and use a 3/8 drill bit on an extension. Super easy.
Personally I really like the integrated roof bars. They're pretty sturdy.
Ooo, that one beeper sounded like the self-destruct warning. :-).
You forgot a beep, when gettting out of the car with it running and the key fob in your pocket.
I love how I have a solid minute of beeps and still forgot some.
I love my Subie. Best car ever!
I have a 2016 2.5i Premium Outback, and you are right. Even in the 4 cylinder, the gas mileage isn’t exactly what it should be. Quick question, do you (or anyone in the comments with a 2015-2017 Outback) have issues with the transmission making noises? Mine acts up quite a bit. Sometimes it even violently jolts when I’m standing still at a stop light.
I haven't had that issue with either a 4 or 6 cylinder. Not sure.
Cvt has an extended warranty bring it to a dealer
Everything I've read about the car is great so I went for a test drive. I'm really bummed because it's the car of my choice, but the rear view mirror is so low that it blocks my field of vision. At the dealership (live in California) I was told that I just need to get used to it! Do you have that problem or do you know how to resolve it? Thanks.
You can change then out but it's not a dealer approved mod.
I have seen people install GM units in these cars.
Thanks, I'll check into that
get a german car then you know the subaru is a dream
Get a German car and know what a money pit it is! No problems with our Outback after 12,000 miles. (That's 20,000 km for those of you who use that funny metric system.)
A german car? What bank do you own? Plus you need a degree in mechanical engineering to repair them. No thanks. Over engineered vehicles with too much redundancy built in. Guarenteed to fail, and cost a fortune to repair. NO THANKS. I had an Audi... Sold it too.
i belive the subaru is a great car but it allso made in Japan
My Outback is made in Indiana.
Goodness I would hope you don't have any problems after 12k miles... Lol that's nothing get back to us after 75k miles.
Thank you for the video. With respect to the gas mileage, do you do the city driving on the all-terrain tires too? If yes, I suspect overall fuel economy would improve on OEM tires (all seasons).
I think the reason I get such lame mileage is the conditions I drive. Short city trips. Lots of stop and go. Less than 2 mile commute.
I am sure the AT tires are a factor.
And this is why I got a 2017 2.5 with a manual transmission. Have little confidence in the x-mode system and the CVT
Are you in Canada? We don't have the option of a manual transmission for the United States.
Do you have any footage of yours off road or in snow? I am curious how a manual open diff wonder would handle those scenarios.
bruceyyyyy yes In Canada. But they stopped offering them in manual in 2018+ models.
I don't have any footage but if I have an opportunity to record something useful I'll post it
Appreciate it!
1 major flaw I see on 2016 Outback is the inability to adjust the temp control knob when you're just letting the outside air flow into the car. You can only adjust the temp by turning on the system, and then turning it off. The DIRECTION of the air flow can be adjusted with the center air flow selector. Don't know if this has been improved upon in later years.
It isn't an issue in my 2019 so I think it was improved.
It’s a car, nothing else. I love mine, especially in snow conditions
in australia my 2015 outback came with a full sized spare !
What size is it?
225/60R18 100 h @@bruceyyyyy
That's the same as US. I wonder what's different?!
Because we aren't allowed anything useful here in the US
when i get chance i will pull all the rubbish out off the back of the car and take a photo @@bruceyyyyy
From what I noticed is, the cvts are the weak link. Get a 5 speed (and I know, no newer outback comes manual) my 2013 Impreza has taken me places I wouldn't think possible simply because the 5 speeds means I'm in control, not the computer
I hear you! I've driving sticks my whole life but recently bought a 2019 outback--no more sticks in that vehicle or the Forester---my previous vehicle was a 2012 Forester with a 5 speed--great car! After being stuck in bumper to bumper traffick on I-81 the entire length of Virginia a few years back, I can say that I'm a little relieved at not having the stick anymore. But I enjoyed 'em for many years!
agree with this. i have a 2013 outback with a 6 speed manual and it's worlds better than my wife's CVT. in Europe they have tons of cars with undersized engines, but have learned that coupled with a manual gearbox that's really not a problem
I had an '07 2.5i Outback with manual transmission. I still want to see a comparison in off road performance between a manual Outback and the latest CVT Outback. My money is on the manual with low range
If you check some of my newer videos I have a 2005 OBXT on and show the differences between the 05 and the 17.
My 2013 stickshift outback does not have low range (to my knowledge) but it's a way way quicker and more connected car than my wife's CVT
Your car is so new. Your problems are not the true problems. Consider torque converter or fan mode actuator failures shortly ... these are problems ...
This video is meant more so as a review for those considering buying the car new. Issues that are rarely talked about in suck up reviews but are still worth knowing for the consumer.
@@bruceyyyyy Sure, but finally you will love or hate that car ...
gas mileage can't be good with these tires ;) ... i switched off my lane departure warning, however car beeps for a reason, can be easily avoided if the driver pays more attention to driving
I was wondering is there anyway to takeoff the lane signal
1:37... that's incredible... I was just thinking today about getting an Outback, and was wondering if it would be able to handle Corkscrew pass in Colorado, and then I saw this! Thanks!
I have a 2020 Outback XT and it's a beast. Good gas mileage and can go over any hill, mountain, rain or snow can't stop it. I do agree with the video about the beeps, but you can turn them off. 👍🏼
I love my 2010 Outback 2.5, wouldn't trade it for anything.
I have a 2013 3.6 and I never want to give it up!
It's never gonna let you down!
Same with my Forester! It's never gonna give me the run around and desert me.
Do you still love it? I just bought one primarily for car camping and I'm reading so many complaints and bad things it's giving me a headache 🙃
Those last few seconds.. I had to do an evasive maneuver around someone who spun out like that in a torrential downpour in Charlotte NC one afternoon. It scared the heck out of me.
I have a 2019 Outback how do I shut off the beeping for changing lanes to close to someone I hate them but love the car
What size tire you running? Some lift too? Maybe your mpg is better than indicated due to speedometer error with larger tires. My '16 2.5L OB returns 28-29mpg consistently in summer. 25-27 in winter with a heavy foot.
I can get that on the highway.
It's the city where it's abysmal.
A 3800 pound all wheel drive car is not going to get great gas mileage. I don’t mind that given all the good stuff the Outback 3.6R does.
The law of entropy rules.
It gets pretty good highway mileage if you ask me.
bruceyyyyy - Just curious, what is the highway mileage for the 3.6R?
@@RandomName27264 I get between 26.1 and 29.6 on straight freeway driving even at or above 70 mph
Pretty acceptable! 26-30 actual depending on conditions. It's indicated as high as 37 before but it's not accurate.
Cuz guys you haven't the 2.0 diesel boxer ;) same torque of 3.6 but a lot more mileage ;)
I’m always puzzled by your fuel economy issues. I’ve seen you post about that on the forums too. I have the 3.6, and my *worst* tank of gas so far was 18.5mpg, which was towing a small boat with KO2s. The lifetime average so far is 24.0mpg, in Minnesota, so with plenty of cold commutes. I still wish those numbers were higher, but that you’re getting substantially worse with the 2.5 is strange.
I have the 3.6 fam.
Oh, for some reason I thought you’d gone the other direction - 3.6 earlier and 2.5 now.
Nope! 2.5 to 3.6.
The only way to tell them apart in this video is the radio antenna. The 2.5 had a bubble antenna at the rear of the roof while the 3.6 has a shark fin.
Tony Yarusso I’m averaging 33 with my 2.5
I have a 112 mile 50percent highway and I average 29.6...no complaints. My wife only drives in the small town we live in with her Forester and she is getting 27.9....still really good
This video came up because I was looking up how to turn off all the beeping on my outback. Lane departure is easy to turn off, and the backup collision warning is useful. However, you will get beeps and warnings when driving in a thunderstorm (I already know it's raining when my wipers are on), when merging in heavy traffic, and just random unknown beeps when driving on the highway. The car is safe, but for a nervous new driver all the beeping could actually cause an accident.
I agree on a road this car beeps too much. Also eyesight is so unreliable, sometimes even adaptive cruise will just turn off on it's own because those eyes don't see
I am amazed at how good it is as an off road. Some pick-ups don't even do better if they do not have differential locks.
Thanks for the video. I just bought my wife a new 2018 Outback. She loves it, me I'm okay with it even though I love Subarus. I loathe the beeping with the lane changes, and adaptive cruise. Too many safety features are turning us into bad drivers.
You'll love it even more when the head gasket blows
Bruceyyyy if those are your worst criticisms of the Outback then it makes me very happy that I just purchased one. 1. I don't ever plan on using it off road as you use yours; my idea of putting it though its paces is taking it on a long 700 mile plus road trip!! Subarus appeal to me not for their off-road prowess but for it's stability on slippery wet and winter roads. 2. I don't mind the chirps--it's part of what makes the vehicle safe. 3. The fuel economy I'm getting in northern NJ is excellent for the 3.6R--i'm getting about 25 in the mixed city/highway driving I do around here. 4. The oil is the oil is the oil . . . I have mine done by the garage--no tools, space or interest in doing it myself. But is it really such a hardship to have an extra container of oil around? You'll have at most 2 at any one time, unless you really stock up when it's on sale. But if you do that then so what? Aren't you used to having extra oil containers around anyway? 5. I agree totally that it's a shame that you can't put a full-size spare in the tire well. But given that many cars nowadays don't even come with a spare tire, I'm happy that I at least get a donut. It's a much bigger problem of course if you want to use your outback off road, as you do. Loved the video and your closing sentiment.
I have a follow up video to this one as well. No one ever watches it. Lol
I made this because after owning one for years a few things irked me and I listed them here.
I am obviously happy with the car (it's the first thing I say in the video) but that doesn't mean it's fault less either.
My dads only complaint is the 4 cylinder and the CVT transmission
Good lord. I know this car is marketed for off road but who takes a new car on terrain like that??? Seems like you’re just asking for trouble and expensively major repairs. I bought this car because I live in Vermont and get a ton of snow. Period. Also, I’m about to teach my 15 year old how to drive and love all the safety features. The more beeps...the better! The tires you have on that car could NEVER give you decent gas mileage.
I love the safety of the car. Even said so in the video. My complaint with the beeping is it becomes a "boy who cried would"scenario where I end up tuning it out because it beeps so often.
yeah. subarus are not built to withstand offroad damage. buy a 4runner or wrangler for that
I bought my Outback specifically to replace my Wrangler for off-road and daily driving use. It's better than the Jeep in every way that matters to me.
@@a.sanford8731 I wouldnt say it's better. maybe different. daily use is probably a plus. kool factor goes to the jeep. Jeep can go through high water better than any subaru
That shows how little you know about Subarus.
Watching this just made me like my 2004 L.L. Bean even more.
Makes my 06 LLBeaner H6 look good as well.
So, is the CVT dead yet? What miles did it die?
75K of doing this stuff and towing 4k+ pounds with it and I'm sad to say that it hasn't gone out yet.
your beeps are much nicer than mine. mine are so loud and jarring. and yeah, I've lowered the volume or disabled some, but they come back.
How are you beeps different fam?
@@bruceyyyyy yours are at least chirpy. mine are BAAP BAAP
My 2017 lets me turn some off or at least down. I work with mine and have to reference a computer while driving so loud alarms are good for my insurance premiums.
Complain too much ride bicycle bro
Thank you
The 2.5 seems to get excellent gas mileage! Very happy with the mileage it gets
will schultz agreed, I get 37-40 mpg on Scottish country and mountain roads 😀
Driving largely highway, my 2.5i is getting a displayed 31.6mph, but M/G at the pump is closer to 29mpg. More power, torque, trailer capacity, and 4wd, compared to my 28mpg Saturn Vue I upgraded from.
I get 27 highway 18-19 city
The 6th Gen models (basic and premium models) do not come with a hatch release button on the dash. And the release button on the key only locks and unlocks the hatch.
Have had 3 Jeep Wranglers and traded my last one on a 2012 Outback manual and so far it has done everything I expected except I turned around at a flooded road which even if I was in a Jeep I probably would have avoided. Have enjoyed the quiet and smooth ride and ESPECIALLY the MPG which is over DOUBLE what the Jeeps were getting!!
My 3.6 gets 21 around town and 26+ on the hwy. I carry about 400 lbs. constantly and run a 235/65-17r tire that’s heavy as hell and they are great! Try a true dual exhaust, K&N filter and a chip. You’ll love the results.
I'm getting that on the highway with 245s.
I think it's just the type of city conditions I'm driving in.
I thought the 3.6R comes with 18 Inch wheels...
It does. Changing the wheels is common.
That fog light whilst turning is on most new vehicles
Not it isn’t. You might be referring to daytime running LEDs that turnoff on some new cars when either blinker is on and a transmission is in “D”.
@@tomaszj.9608 in Europe most if not all newer cars have fog lights that come on when turning. Its been about for a couple of years. You turn and the corresponding fog light illuminates it's so you can see more when making a turn at night.
I never realized mine did that till it did that. As far as FOG , those are really just driving lights mounted low. They do nothing for cutting fog. I ended up buying actual AMBER bulbs. THOSE are fog lights.
@@tomaszj.9608 No they are not new, they Are new in the sence only one comes on whilse turning. They are not even true fog lights. Imagine cutting fog with those? Nope. I actually changed my bulbs to Amber ones. True fog lamps are AMBER.
@@scottfirman when you changed the outback fog lights to amber was it just a straight up bulb switch
I believe the 3.6l engine runs pretty hot too?
My biggest complaint is when you turn the headlights on there is no light on the selector to see that you have turned them on.
My guess is the 2020 model will go along way towards solving the gas mileage problem by replacing the 3.6 model with a smaller sized turbo engine. Still, the smooth power of the 3.6 is a joy to drive under any conditions.
Greg Dietz it’s because it’s truly balanced and less work per cylinder. Great motor.
It will probably get the same turbo four the Ascent has, but as an option. I'm guessing the 2.5 will still be around, as the new Forester also kept it with the new redesign.
I've heard the same thing. I got a 2019 3.6R because after having a turbo for several years, please give me normally aspirated power. No lag, especially when off road. I'm good with dimished mpg, but still get 22+ around town and 30 on the hwy. Very acceptable for a six cylinder.
In my 2015 one of the things you did not mention was how much the center screen gets dust and how there is no sun shield to block glare on it. Totally chuckled myself when you mentioned the beeping. 🙂
I love this car though. It has been awesome.
i took my 2019 subie impreza for a car wash a couple days ago and when the guys got done cleaning the inside not even 5 minutes later there was dust on the screen like it was never cleaned!! i thought i was dirty but glad its not only me!
Have a 2015 and I can never figure out how the screen looks dust. I see I’m not the only one. Also the glare on that same screen.
I know the feeling. I upgrade my 2001 Outback to 2012 and talk about a big difference on traction. 2001 had a true AWD with no control system worked great. Now my 2012 has TC & acts like it always working agents itself to do anything when the roads are not dry. But my 2012 drives better in the rain no dought than my older Outback.
TC is only good at speed. If you need to get going through mud or snow and need momentum it HAS to be turned off. I like it, but I'll always turn it off in scenarios where I need wheel spin
amen about those beeps lol
i dont mind em but was a funny show case
0:42 lmao subaru does not have differential lock
I have an ‘18 3.6R and I’ll add some issues I’ve noticed. 1. The infotainment screen is glossy. Try viewing the backup camera display when the sun is beating on the screen. Before this Outback I owned a VW Sportwagen and that infotainment screen was matte which was perfect for viewing at any angle in the sun. 2. Maps detection of audio input while driving. I think I speak clearly yet this system NEVER gets my audio input correct. Not only is it off, it’s waaaaay off. 3. The entire center front display does not allow for mounting of a phone holder. There is not enough space to stick an adhesive to the dash. The vents are pretty small and move too easily to hold a vent clip well esp with bigger phones. This leaves you with the option of using a windshield mounted holder. 4. The cup holders could be a couple inches deeper. As is, my standard, 16 oz. disposable plastic water bottle jostles around in there.
Overall I love my car but would love it more if Subaru fixed those design/comfort issues.
My top complaints. 2017 3.6.
5 breakdowns (failure to start...all battery related) in 4 years required tow to dealer.
Not a fan of the CVT
2 visits to dealer for AC failure.
Seats become uncomfortable after 3~4 hours driving.
Yep, all those beeps.
Wish you could buy one withojt that expensive, useless moon roof.
AND FINALLY...
With headlights in AUTO, dash annunciator indicates headlights on during daytime rain but only running lights are on. Illegal and unsafe in Florida
wow nice video good job. finally somebody that has pushed it a bit besides me. yeah those are kind of small things but I get it. What we did is go through LPAdventure and upgrade the whole thing. I have a 2015 so I do not have the nannys that drive you nuts and they would drive me nuts to. Yep the 30in spare is on roof and I use the other space for storage- it works. But for off road to take it to the next level look at LP. the fit is perfect easy to do and your car no long looks or performs like a suby. I noticed you really did not air down. With a set of K02 that would make even a bigger difference than what you are doing. Good luck yeah and be safe.
There are plenty of us here that take our Subaru's off road. LP only makes one thing that stands out in my mind when it comes to the 5th gen. If you go off road and don't plan to do a custom front bumper the bumper guard is a must.
In Colorado I was still running the KO2 tires and had them at 15 psi on the trails.
You complain too much. The beeps are annoying? Stay in your lane or use your blinker and the lane departure warning beep will not occur. And the oil gripe... dude get over it.
Video was just a test homie to prove adding the word Hate to the video title gets a lot more views due to you fan boys and it worked. Trust me, Bruce doesnt hate this car
Actually the beeper volume can be turned down to a minimum or you can turn them off. With mine on minimum volume I don't even hear them most of the time
Do you not find it odd that a 6.0 Liter LS2 V8 requires 5.5 quarts of oil and a 3.6 EZ36 H6 requires 6.9?
bruceyyyyy - but your Subaru six is not a V, it's a Flat. I'm just not sure these are so easily compared from an engineering standpoint?
I had my 2014beep at me about a lane departure while I driving on the beach. That was good laugh, but seriously this thing beeps like crazy.
Great video!! The history of the oil capacity makes me super happy with the goofy amounts that are currently needed. All Subarus used to have a very low capacity of 4.5qts on the 4 cylinder models. After driving 3k miles a Subaru can easily burn 1-2 quarts of oil if the engine has 100k miles or more on it. Its a normal engine thing, Subarus burn a little more than normal though. A lot of owners never check the level between changes. Leaving the engine with 2.5-3.5 quarts of oil is super dangerous. I have seen a lot of motors fail because low oil level. The oil sludges up quickly and leads to engine failures. A lot of people use 5k and 7k change intervals and without maintaining oil level! Problems surface very quickly! Double check your oil level on Subbies! They last a long time if you do!! I know of at least a dozen cars over the 400k mark.
I agree with you! We need to spread the word. So many Subbie motors could be saved. :)
My outback just oil change it the the oil level cames on/off all the time
@@chatnavz Is the oil level full? Is it the correct viscosity? If you answered yes to both, I would do an oil pressure test asap to determine what is going on before you have more motor problems. The lamp may be coming on, for a LOW oil pressure problem.
Easy Fix firestone did it then the next oil change i did myself to make it sure but same result. Yes it is a correct viscosity. Ok gonna buy gauge to test my oil pressure. Thank for your help.
@@chatnavz Ok, cool. Sometimes the oil pressure sensors do go bad. Check those. You should have one the block minimum. If you have 2006 or newer, I believe you have one in each head. They are all easy to change and super cheap. The sensors are common failure points. I would check the pressure at the same time though to make sure you have the correct amount.
Cool video! Honestly think you may be the only Outback owner to drive this kind of off road. Id get a used Toyota 4Runner (with 8k winch) if I were doing this kind of driving.
Anyone have a link on how to turn off the beeps? The un/locking beep is the worst. Seatbelt is close 2nd.
I had to buy a seatbelt extender for my "new" 2013 outback. Couldn't reach the latch conveniently. The extender plugged in shuts off the beep.
Consider yourself lucky. My 2 L turbo Ford Fusion did 12 MPG in the city!
Nobody should ever abuse a great car like you do. It is not a rock climbing Jeep. I love my 17 3.5R great mileage great on Montana icy roads, all around great auto.
If compared with american cars, it is a pretty good car. But it's far away from being a great car. The interieur is typical japanese Mickey Mouse style. Aweful.
My wife would kill me if I ever drove her Outback like the one in the video was driven! Lucky for me, I have a Silverado LTZ and a Wrangler Rubicon for those times I feel the need for a little offroad time.
Where can I buy such wheels for Subaru outback? Thank you
I run the method 502.
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Even have a review on there!
One more complaint is the tight wheel wells. Several times in (too) deep of snow - snow will pack in around the wheels and actually inhibit steering. The wheel wells are too small.
I noticed this more on the Forester we owned. Those dumb mud flaps packed with ice and snow and would limit turning radious. My Outback doesnt have that problem because they do not have that" pocket" like the Forester had.