Talking about ICON tools with another mechanic. We talk about ICON, Snap on, Mac Tools, Matco Tools, Carlyle Tekton, and other tools for Harbor Freight.
I'm glad I found your channel. Thanx for the content. I wish I had time to make videos like these. Although I'm an electrician (not an Auto Mechanic) I still very much Appreciate what you Justin Dow, The Bear, Clay Koon, Bruce Allen, Garnette Tools, Flat Rate Master and Client Graphics are doing.
I like the format of the video and the review of other professionals. I would just suggest getting a gimbal for shooting to help with the camera shake. Keep up the great content. Give HF and Icon two years and they will have a great line of tools for an honest price that will have people second guessing their $40k+ Snap-On sets.
Harbor freight just raised their prices on I con tools cause all the hype now they asking 149.99 for the ratcheting wrench tell them to stop raising their prices that not right
Harbor freight now warranties Icon tools just their Pittsburg tools, straight replacement without a receipt. Wondered about this so I drove down and swapped out my 1/2 flex head ratchet. No issues being used professionally, just wanted to check the warranty process. They grabbed one right off the shelf and handed it to me. Just like that.
I don't think we have the final idea on the prices yet. Once we see any promos or coupons and get into these tools a few months i think we will be able to like love or hate these tools
Redemption Garage I agree. I also know that Tariffs will definitely affect the prices but that increase is also going to hurt all other imported tools as well. I am going to let the dust settle before I purchase anything unless it’s an absolute necessity. I think they got the quality part and now I hope they get the affordable part.
@MRO Garage uh what i mean buddy is that there may be coupons and if the price can increase then it can decrease lol calm down buddy if they are too much then we will just buy our tools elsewhere its not the end of the world with that being said I'm trying to find out more info
@MRO Garage i get it and i am mad too but i am not trying to come to any conclusion until i know all of the details. I am not affiliated with hf or icon other than them sharing information with me and sending me a couple of tools. We will find out if they were full of it or not and i will let everyone know either way because i dont owe anyone anything except the people who trust my opinion and i would never steer them wrong for anything. I am not taking up for anyone except people who watch this channel... believe me
As always brotha bringing us quality reviews from techs that give us the best info possible to help us make good tool buying decisions instead of just buying from the tool trucks I love that someone finally said it about Snapon drivers hassling about trying to warranty out tools and that it isn't always just swapped out on the truck that you can wait weeks for a replacement I've seen guys get a little salty about waiting on a tool replacement too
Is it being hex is more Superior over the snap on I own mac set awesome for brake lines like he said when you just got a tool near by. I really like the icon line I've gotta give them a try.
Impact sockets do that i have seen go to an inch and i did find thanks to some guys watching this a snap on set that does go to an inch but it isnt a standard set and it does cost 70 dollars more than the 12 piece set.
Good video getting an independent set of eyes to give his honest opinion. Plus I liked the conversation between the two of you regarding what comes in a typical socket set...7/8 typically the largest size at 3/8drive. Cheers
So I bought some icon bit sockets and I asked the manager what the warranty is like and he told me if one breaks to bring the whole set in and they’ll warranty the entire set out.
Our friendly neighborhood Snap-On driver is always happy to help with warranties. Also he's a genuinely nice dude. Just saying. I'm not sold on Icon just yet. Pittsburgh pro gear is a great bang for your buck. Hickups suck.
I loved his comment where he said Snap-On dealers were a-holes. Too funny. As far as Icon pricing is concerned, I'm taking a wait and see attitude until they're on the shelves and available to the consumer.
The mac tools and matco tools truck comes to my house. If you hunt them down and spend enough they will. With that being said dont do it lol. Its a trap and its a lot of money. As i say a lot you don't really need to spend money like that. I think these ICON tools are a great option for anyone.
You sound like a salesman. Dont compare Icon to Snap On. Snap On hand tools we know is some of the best on the market, Icon yet to be proven. Dont compare a Toyota to a Porsche. It will be cheaper, and both are means of transport, but quality and performance wont be the same. Promote your Icon tools, but dont be a salesman and dont compare it to Snap On. Its not the same league of tools. It just isnt. My Snap On guy is great, not all of them are assholes, dont generalize. Dont try and put other tool companies in a bad light to hipe up these Icon tools.
Guess you missed the part that he said in my experience if you want to pay 3 to 4 times the price for tools that do the same thing the snap on tools do then thats on you. Tell someome who hasnt used tools for 25 years that they have to spend their kids college fund to buy tools that arent even as good as you guys hype them up to be. Its your money you spend it how you want and i will do the same but i wont tell someone to waste money on tools they dont have to. You know I'm right you know that you dont have to spend that much money in every case. Are there certain tools you should spend money on? Yes but to spend 120 on a ratchet that you can spend 40 on and it does the same thing is not the smartest thing to do. Oh the snap on is stronger or lasts longer? Thats what a warranty is for. Oh if it breaks when you need it? Like every mechanic known to man doesnt have a back up ratchet. Even guys who spend their whole paycheck on snap on tools have a back up ratchet. You know I'm right and its your prerogative if you want to waste your money but im going to save these kids and others money if they can listen to reason without being brainwashed or peer pressured into buying these tools like guys who think they are real mechanics because they spent 100,000 on tools. When i will take hyper tough and smoke most of them. Thanks for your input and watching but i am trying to save these guys from falling into the trap a lot of us fell into.
@@RedemptionGarage I see your point of kids not needing to buy Snap On. 100% agree with that. Dont agree with you saying "wasting money on Snap On tools", yet again, stop putting other tool companies in a bad light, its YOUR opinion. You calling it wasting money, I see it as me spending my money on quality tools I know will last me for years and that I really want. Dont be a salesman, give your opinion on those Icon tools, but dont try and put other tool companies in a bad light. People arent stupid, they saw right through it.
@@nevillepretorius8948 this channel is me giving my opinion and telling people which tool or tool company i think they should go with lol. That is the point of a youtube channel if people didn't want to hear my opinion on a certain tool or product then why would they watch? Ask yourself this Neville would we be having this conversation if i was promoting Snap on tools? If i was saying snap on was the best spend your money on snap on would you have a problem with it? I am going to go out on a limb and say no we wouldn't. So just because I disagree with you or think snap on tools is a waste of money for the most part doesn't mean i am right or wrong i just give my opinion and you can take it or you can buy whatever you want i dont care i am here to give my opinion and thats it. Thanks again.
@@RedemptionGarage point taken 🤔😂! Rock on dude, love your channel, and love the interaction even if I think you are comparing a VW Golf to a Ferrari 458 Italia 😉
@@nevillepretorius8948 you want to hear something funny? When i post the rest of this video if you watch we actually compare the snap on box to icon as a Ferrari and a prius lmao... trust me buddy i get what you are saying i have spent thousands upon thousands of dollars when i didnt have to but every man has to make his own decision i just am trying to take that peer pressure that i and everyone goes through to buy these tools and while i like snap on i like owning good tools there are options. Thanks for your input and for making me think.
Do you consider Carlyle to be a "Top Shelf" brand like Mac Tools, Snap On, Matco and SK. Or do you consider them to be "2nd tier Shelf" like GearWrench, Capri Tool and Williams. . . . . I guess that would make Craftsman, Husky, Pittsburgh, Kobalt and Duralast the "3rd tier Shelf" and then Hyper Tough, Stanley, Craftsman-Evolve, Master Craft, and other generic brands as the "Bottom Shelf"
I honestly don't know enough about Carlyle to make that judgement but plan on checking them out in more depth. Thanks for the question and I'm sorry i couldnt help more but i dont want to mislead you.
My rep is awesome and never had issues with warranty. At this point I’m pretty impressed and can’t wait to get my hands on some of the Icon tools. Mostly the sockets to fill up my toolbox at home. I’m curious on that actual clearances of the wrenches and sockets. I’ve had a gear wrench 10mm on a bolt and my snap on 10mm felt tighter ( non flank drive wrench) Most of the blue point stuff is made in Taiwan.
There are some great drivers for sure! I am running behind on my wrench video but it will be in the next few days and I want it to be a concise but as informative as possible so i will try to cover everything i am able to.
They're going to fall flat on their faces if they keep hiking prices. If they want this to work they have to outdo the relatively close in price competition, not be more of the same. No one who's informed is going to take a risk for no reason...
I agree with your friend some of the snap on drivers are a holes but there are a lot that are great guys there just trying to make a living no clue what's going on behind the scenes in there lives
@@MrSubaru1387 what is with you and harassing me dude i know there franchisees they drive a truck there drivers rustbelt mechanic calls them drivers so does justin Dow and JRC54 go correct them as well redemption garages friend in the video also said snap on drivers are a holes so correct everyone
@@AntonioClaudioMichael they are drivers for Snap-on. They're franchisees. They buy a Snap-on franchise from Snap-on. They invest $30k upfront to be a dealer. They have to buy the $120k truck and then stock it with $100k in inventory. It's not some "a hole" driving around selling stuff for Snap-on. Each franchise is their personal business. They go under, they usual end up bankrupt, lose their house, family, etc. I was a Snap-on dealer for 4 years. I know the ins and outs of the company. I've lived the life day in and out. People spreading misinformation ticks me off. Have you personally ever worked somewhere and seen a Snap-on dealer weekly? Dealt with him? Done business with him? How many different ones have you done business with to come to the conclusion that most are "a holes". They hard working men and women out trying to provide for themselves and their families. The same as anyone else. They aren't some evil company troll out to get you.
@@MrSubaru1387 just because I agree that some are a holes dont mean they all are I didnt say anything other then I agreed the person on this video that stated they are a holes is the gentleman on the video you want to talk crap and prove everyone wrong they do it to everyone that calls them drivers every mechanic shop on the planet calls there snap on rep there snap on driver and that goes for cornwell and mac and matco and gearwrench as well thousands of mechanics call them drivers I understand they are franchisees I understand they spent the money on the truck and all the tools dude you need to relax you take everything way to seriously its CZcams dude I have a right to comment my opinion you dont like my opinion I get it
Snap on shallow and 3/8 drive 1/4 to 7/8 part number 211fsy (shallow) & 211fssy (deep) they are now offering another set that runs up to 1in it considered the master set but only available in a shallow set, deep stops at 7/8 with 15/16 and 1in being add ons. it is part number 214fsy hope that helps you out a little
I really hope that harbor freight carriers singles for sockets and wrenches. Having to have it mailed would be a hassle at the end of the day even though you may have a back up. Me personally I have the snap on fdx ratcheting with a 15 degree offest love the wrenches but I still keep a back up, they are a cheaper brand. Same with my sockets I have back up sockets just in case older kid of wore out. That’s just me some people may not have that issue but I still feel like waiting for it to be mailed in would be just as big of a hassle as waiting for snap on to order a rebuild kit for a ratchet.
Considering the price increases I've recently seen on their tools even before their release. I'd rather just buy Gearwrench at that point. Their ratchets seem nice to me being fully sealed but my Gearwrench 120XP's have held up fine without issue despite not being fully "sealed".
Apex tool group and its predecessors have spent over 20 years building the Gearwrench brand name and reputation. I'm not paying anywhere near GW prices for a brand selling similar imported tools that is just starting out.
Nepros has the most complete 3/8 drive metric socket set I've seen, 20 PC and goes from 5.5mm to 24mm with no skips. Their close to $300 for the set but high quality tools.
In impact sizes i would but as far as chrome goes i never really have but everyone is going to be different. Thanks for sharing that with us though brother.
I warrantied an extension from Northern Tool (twice, actually). It was a 36 inch chrome extension (Klutch) that came in a set of 3. They didn’t have single extensions, so the guy asked if I could bring the whole set back. Brought it back, and he gave me a new set. Broke it again, did the same thing. Could HF do so,etching like that? Just warranty the set instead of waiting on the one socket?
If you can get me any prices I would appreciate it you can email me at myredemptiongarage@gmail.com or message me on facebook twitter or instagram or comment here if you can brother
@@vanquishstorm3806 copy? take a look into the history of the swivel head ratchets? the patent was for the first one marketed by sk wayne in 1962, and it was about 25 years later snap on copied it, and so did about everyone on the planet. if you make a good design everyone is going to adopt it. hard to not copy an end wrench or a socket, or at least very much so... id however your displeasure is with the use of almost the same font or part numbering system, maybe you have a point there. of course you might consider it is harbor freight taking a jab or firing a shot across the bow of snap on.
HF seems to be suffering from some sort of inferiority complex with the marketing bs and comparisons it makes. They making themselves look like a bunch of producers of knockoffs in China when they used the same font on the stamp marks on the tools. They need to differentiate themselves. Gearwrench is a perfect example of how it pays to do so even if your tools are not the best.
They look good. I'll wait till I can get them in my hands to see if they feel good. We'll see what happens with pricing. I have no doubt there will be coupons for the ICON line. In my opinion, if they hold the prices down on them, they'll have success from the outset. If the prices creep up to established brands (Gearwrench, Tekton, etc) it might be a struggle, as HF has the reputation of "cheap tools", and attempting to rebrand at least part of your image to "professional tools" at much higher prices than people are used to seeing in the store, will be a steep uphill climb. Here's another thing that's crossed my mind. If I end up buying some, I want them to succeed, because if this campaign fails, and the ICON line goes away, I'm stuck with tools that can't be replaced if I need to warranty one.
i dont want to fight to get thimgs replaced like i am for this tool chest i need fixed right now after being told when i bought the box that parts are easy to get
I have seen it in impact but not chrome the chrome set in metric and standard that i have seen is the same as ICON do you have a set number I can look up?
214fsy it's a 14piece set and I believe they're flank drive extra....i might of misunderstood you of what you were comparing the SO set to but I just heard snap on doesn't go up to 1" and I know I have a set that does lol
@@christophergalla316 you are right they do and that is different from their standard 12 piece set. It is 269.99 online and the 12 piece set is 190 something. Thanks for that info I appreciate you!
Lmao that isnt intentional but my girlfriend says I am the Billy Mays of the tool world and I don't even really try 😂. I appreciate you watching brother
They keep raising the prices and noone is goin to buy them, they are almost the same price as gearwrench now with the price hike. I'd like to start buying those tools because they look legit but if they keep raising prices I'll just pass
I wrote them again asking about that but just did so no word yet. I think we will get a better idea on pricing as we see any promos or coupons and get into these tools for a little while.
@@RedemptionGarage yea they initial proce points you had in your video were legit and I would 100% buy them but the price hike before they are even fully available gives me a little pause
The stand up style snap on stock rails are magnetic. lay down/ new style are non magnetic. I have 5 different 3/8 drive snap on sets they all came sizes 1/4 to 7/8 . Sorry your buddy had bad snap on dealers I personally couldn't ask for a dude that I deal with.
been following your youtube video's on the icon brand tools and all the bruhaha from those that are just rabid when it comes to the other mainstream brands like snapon, mac, matco, cornwall etc. having been twisting wrenches for 50 years now, i have used most everything... my take is this... the tool does not make the mechanic! (actually good mechanics are known for making tools) In my experience yes snapon makes some good stuff so does mac and the others. the very best by a large margin impact sockets were made by sk wayne ( the wayne years from 62-68) and by a large margin, however no one talks about sk much even though the are good ole USA manufactured. the worst ratchets ever made were snap on, however i am sure they have been forced to improve them over the years. i see lots of talk about warranty on tools? what is all the fuss about warranty? i can honestly say every tool i ever broke was because i abused the darned thing, 4 foot cheater pipes will kill about any tool inserted into it, that is if you put enough oomph into it. as far as harbor freight? yes i have used their stuff for years, and of course there has been good, there has been bad, and there has been very good and very bad as well. there very good V notch wrenches will and have proven to exceed the ability of all the major tool brands, at what? 10-20% of the price? i expect the icon stuff to be very good as well, and i also expect the major tool truck vendors will come to rue the day that they came to market. just wait and see, i give harbor freight 5 years and they will have tool trucks out running around delivering tools to your shop! :)
Mac changed their open end wrench designe from hex like to the more conventional proto 500 because the jaws would spread out a little wider and the wrench would slip off easier than a snapon
I will be testing them myself and I'm sure going back to Joe as well and we can test them more. Theres a lot to be discovered. Thanks for the suggestion. Ken.
What do you think about videos like this?
I like it
Awesome
I'm glad I found your channel. Thanx for the content. I wish I had time to make videos like these. Although I'm an electrician (not an Auto Mechanic) I still very much Appreciate what you Justin Dow, The Bear, Clay Koon, Bruce Allen, Garnette Tools, Flat Rate Master and Client Graphics are doing.
I like the format of the video and the review of other professionals. I would just suggest getting a gimbal for shooting to help with the camera shake. Keep up the great content. Give HF and Icon two years and they will have a great line of tools for an honest price that will have people second guessing their $40k+ Snap-On sets.
Harbor freight just raised their prices on I con tools cause all the hype now they asking 149.99 for the ratcheting wrench tell them to stop raising their prices that not right
The ratching wrench set is $119 @ my harbor freight.. still a high price .. but better thsn $149
Even without a price increase icon stuff is already overpriced. Icon isn't offering much that other Made in Taiwan brands aren't already offering.
Harbor freight now warranties Icon tools just their Pittsburg tools, straight replacement without a receipt. Wondered about this so I drove down and swapped out my 1/2 flex head ratchet. No issues being used professionally, just wanted to check the warranty process. They grabbed one right off the shelf and handed it to me. Just like that.
I think HF is definitely putting a nice tool on the market with Icon, but the prices just seem a bit off.
I don't think we have the final idea on the prices yet. Once we see any promos or coupons and get into these tools a few months i think we will be able to like love or hate these tools
Redemption Garage I agree. I also know that Tariffs will definitely affect the prices but that increase is also going to hurt all other imported tools as well. I am going to let the dust settle before I purchase anything unless it’s an absolute necessity. I think they got the quality part and now I hope they get the affordable part.
@MRO Garage uh what i mean buddy is that there may be coupons and if the price can increase then it can decrease lol calm down buddy if they are too much then we will just buy our tools elsewhere its not the end of the world with that being said I'm trying to find out more info
@MRO Garage i get it and i am mad too but i am not trying to come to any conclusion until i know all of the details. I am not affiliated with hf or icon other than them sharing information with me and sending me a couple of tools. We will find out if they were full of it or not and i will let everyone know either way because i dont owe anyone anything except the people who trust my opinion and i would never steer them wrong for anything. I am not taking up for anyone except people who watch this channel... believe me
As always brotha bringing us quality reviews from techs that give us the best info possible to help us make good tool buying decisions instead of just buying from the tool trucks I love that someone finally said it about Snapon drivers hassling about trying to warranty out tools and that it isn't always just swapped out on the truck that you can wait weeks for a replacement I've seen guys get a little salty about waiting on a tool replacement too
Is it being hex is more Superior over the snap on I own mac set awesome for brake lines like he said when you just got a tool near by. I really like the icon line I've gotta give them a try.
My gray pneumatic Duos came 5/16-1" and 7-22mm no sizes skiped.
Impact sockets do that i have seen go to an inch and i did find thanks to some guys watching this a snap on set that does go to an inch but it isnt a standard set and it does cost 70 dollars more than the 12 piece set.
I like what you are doing reaching out for different opinions. Great idea.
swallowing to much of that dip gave him the hiccups....lmao
Good video getting an independent set of eyes to give his honest opinion. Plus I liked the conversation between the two of you regarding what comes in a typical socket set...7/8 typically the largest size at 3/8drive. Cheers
Great review bro, nice to get someone else's opinion that turns wrenches every day.
So I bought some icon bit sockets and I asked the manager what the warranty is like and he told me if one breaks to bring the whole set in and they’ll warranty the entire set out.
Our friendly neighborhood Snap-On driver is always happy to help with warranties. Also he's a genuinely nice dude. Just saying.
I'm not sold on Icon just yet. Pittsburgh pro gear is a great bang for your buck.
Hickups suck.
Spot on video man. Great job!
I loved his comment where he said Snap-On dealers were a-holes. Too funny. As far as Icon pricing is concerned, I'm taking a wait and see attitude until they're on the shelves and available to the consumer.
Great video brother keep them coming!!!!
The snap on truck doesn’t come to my house. So they aren’t an option for me. I’ll definitely check out the icon sockets
The mac tools and matco tools truck comes to my house. If you hunt them down and spend enough they will. With that being said dont do it lol. Its a trap and its a lot of money. As i say a lot you don't really need to spend money like that. I think these ICON tools are a great option for anyone.
Great video,i cant wait to get to a harbor freight to check out the icon line👍
I have had many uses for my 3/8 drive 1" and 1 1/16 deep sockets over the years
Awesome video brother, I'm gonna have to pick me up some of them icon tools for sure.
Just to give you an update we're about $150 away from getting that young man his box can't thank you enough for you an your fans help brother
You sound like a salesman. Dont compare Icon to Snap On. Snap On hand tools we know is some of the best on the market, Icon yet to be proven. Dont compare a Toyota to a Porsche. It will be cheaper, and both are means of transport, but quality and performance wont be the same. Promote your Icon tools, but dont be a salesman and dont compare it to Snap On. Its not the same league of tools. It just isnt. My Snap On guy is great, not all of them are assholes, dont generalize. Dont try and put other tool companies in a bad light to hipe up these Icon tools.
Guess you missed the part that he said in my experience if you want to pay 3 to 4 times the price for tools that do the same thing the snap on tools do then thats on you. Tell someome who hasnt used tools for 25 years that they have to spend their kids college fund to buy tools that arent even as good as you guys hype them up to be. Its your money you spend it how you want and i will do the same but i wont tell someone to waste money on tools they dont have to. You know I'm right you know that you dont have to spend that much money in every case. Are there certain tools you should spend money on? Yes but to spend 120 on a ratchet that you can spend 40 on and it does the same thing is not the smartest thing to do. Oh the snap on is stronger or lasts longer? Thats what a warranty is for. Oh if it breaks when you need it? Like every mechanic known to man doesnt have a back up ratchet. Even guys who spend their whole paycheck on snap on tools have a back up ratchet. You know I'm right and its your prerogative if you want to waste your money but im going to save these kids and others money if they can listen to reason without being brainwashed or peer pressured into buying these tools like guys who think they are real mechanics because they spent 100,000 on tools. When i will take hyper tough and smoke most of them. Thanks for your input and watching but i am trying to save these guys from falling into the trap a lot of us fell into.
@@RedemptionGarage I see your point of kids not needing to buy Snap On. 100% agree with that. Dont agree with you saying "wasting money on Snap On tools", yet again, stop putting other tool companies in a bad light, its YOUR opinion. You calling it wasting money, I see it as me spending my money on quality tools I know will last me for years and that I really want. Dont be a salesman, give your opinion on those Icon tools, but dont try and put other tool companies in a bad light. People arent stupid, they saw right through it.
@@nevillepretorius8948 this channel is me giving my opinion and telling people which tool or tool company i think they should go with lol. That is the point of a youtube channel if people didn't want to hear my opinion on a certain tool or product then why would they watch? Ask yourself this Neville would we be having this conversation if i was promoting Snap on tools? If i was saying snap on was the best spend your money on snap on would you have a problem with it? I am going to go out on a limb and say no we wouldn't. So just because I disagree with you or think snap on tools is a waste of money for the most part doesn't mean i am right or wrong i just give my opinion and you can take it or you can buy whatever you want i dont care i am here to give my opinion and thats it. Thanks again.
@@RedemptionGarage point taken 🤔😂! Rock on dude, love your channel, and love the interaction even if I think you are comparing a VW Golf to a Ferrari 458 Italia 😉
@@nevillepretorius8948 you want to hear something funny? When i post the rest of this video if you watch we actually compare the snap on box to icon as a Ferrari and a prius lmao... trust me buddy i get what you are saying i have spent thousands upon thousands of dollars when i didnt have to but every man has to make his own decision i just am trying to take that peer pressure that i and everyone goes through to buy these tools and while i like snap on i like owning good tools there are options. Thanks for your input and for making me think.
Great video redemption brother
Do you consider Carlyle to be a "Top Shelf" brand like Mac Tools, Snap On, Matco and SK. Or do you consider them to be "2nd tier Shelf" like GearWrench, Capri Tool and Williams. . . . . I guess that would make Craftsman, Husky, Pittsburgh, Kobalt and Duralast the "3rd tier Shelf" and then Hyper Tough, Stanley, Craftsman-Evolve, Master Craft, and other generic brands as the "Bottom Shelf"
I honestly don't know enough about Carlyle to make that judgement but plan on checking them out in more depth. Thanks for the question and I'm sorry i couldnt help more but i dont want to mislead you.
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Icon is a game changer! 👍 Snap-on is sucking on fumes! 👎
My rep is awesome and never had issues with warranty. At this point I’m pretty impressed and can’t wait to get my hands on some of the Icon tools. Mostly the sockets to fill up my toolbox at home. I’m curious on that actual clearances of the wrenches and sockets. I’ve had a gear wrench 10mm on a bolt and my snap on 10mm felt tighter ( non flank drive wrench) Most of the blue point stuff is made in Taiwan.
There are some great drivers for sure! I am running behind on my wrench video but it will be in the next few days and I want it to be a concise but as informative as possible so i will try to cover everything i am able to.
The snap-on 3/8 impact sockets sets go to 1" on sae side.
They're going to fall flat on their faces if they keep hiking prices. If they want this to work they have to outdo the relatively close in price competition, not be more of the same. No one who's informed is going to take a risk for no reason...
The jaws will spread and slip easier on an open end wrench with the hex design in the base of the jaw area the anti slip grooves will help
That dude trying to cough up a fur ball or he just guttin' his chaw?
I agree with your friend some of the snap on drivers are a holes but there are a lot that are great guys there just trying to make a living no clue what's going on behind the scenes in there lives
Franchisees, not drivers.
@@MrSubaru1387 what is with you and harassing me dude i know there franchisees they drive a truck there drivers rustbelt mechanic calls them drivers so does justin Dow and JRC54 go correct them as well redemption garages friend in the video also said snap on drivers are a holes so correct everyone
@@AntonioClaudioMichael they are drivers for Snap-on. They're franchisees. They buy a Snap-on franchise from Snap-on. They invest $30k upfront to be a dealer. They have to buy the $120k truck and then stock it with $100k in inventory. It's not some "a hole" driving around selling stuff for Snap-on. Each franchise is their personal business. They go under, they usual end up bankrupt, lose their house, family, etc. I was a Snap-on dealer for 4 years. I know the ins and outs of the company. I've lived the life day in and out. People spreading misinformation ticks me off. Have you personally ever worked somewhere and seen a Snap-on dealer weekly? Dealt with him? Done business with him? How many different ones have you done business with to come to the conclusion that most are "a holes". They hard working men and women out trying to provide for themselves and their families. The same as anyone else. They aren't some evil company troll out to get you.
@@MrSubaru1387 just because I agree that some are a holes dont mean they all are I didnt say anything other then I agreed the person on this video that stated they are a holes is the gentleman on the video you want to talk crap and prove everyone wrong they do it to everyone that calls them drivers every mechanic shop on the planet calls there snap on rep there snap on driver and that goes for cornwell and mac and matco and gearwrench as well thousands of mechanics call them drivers I understand they are franchisees I understand they spent the money on the truck and all the tools dude you need to relax you take everything way to seriously its CZcams dude I have a right to comment my opinion you dont like my opinion I get it
@@AntonioClaudioMichael way to edit your original comment...
Snap on shallow and 3/8 drive 1/4 to 7/8 part number 211fsy (shallow) & 211fssy (deep) they are now offering another set that runs up to 1in it considered the master set but only available in a shallow set, deep stops at 7/8 with 15/16 and 1in being add ons. it is part number 214fsy hope that helps you out a little
I just found that out they do offer it at 269.99 compared to the 190 something of the 12 piece set. Thanks you for that Info!
Someone posted last night....icon os pumping up thier prices up by almost 50%....the $99 set is now $149
I really hope that harbor freight carriers singles for sockets and wrenches. Having to have it mailed would be a hassle at the end of the day even though you may have a back up. Me personally I have the snap on fdx ratcheting with a 15 degree offest love the wrenches but I still keep a back up, they are a cheaper brand. Same with my sockets I have back up sockets just in case older kid of wore out. That’s just me some people may not have that issue but I still feel like waiting for it to be mailed in would be just as big of a hassle as waiting for snap on to order a rebuild kit for a ratchet.
Considering the price increases I've recently seen on their tools even before their release. I'd rather just buy Gearwrench at that point. Their ratchets seem nice to me being fully sealed but my Gearwrench 120XP's have held up fine without issue despite not being fully "sealed".
Apex tool group and its predecessors have spent over 20 years building the Gearwrench brand name and reputation. I'm not paying anywhere near GW prices for a brand selling similar imported tools that is just starting out.
Nepros has the most complete 3/8 drive metric socket set I've seen, 20 PC and goes from 5.5mm to 24mm with no skips. Their close to $300 for the set but high quality tools.
Thanks for that info i didnt know that and would like to check them out for sure
Thanks 👍
I use 15/16"- 3/8" drive for oil changes and it way easier than lugging 1/2" drive around
In impact sizes i would but as far as chrome goes i never really have but everyone is going to be different. Thanks for sharing that with us though brother.
I warrantied an extension from Northern Tool (twice, actually). It was a 36 inch chrome extension (Klutch) that came in a set of 3. They didn’t have single extensions, so the guy asked if I could bring the whole set back. Brought it back, and he gave me a new set. Broke it again, did the same thing. Could HF do so,etching like that? Just warranty the set instead of waiting on the one socket?
ICON tools are now being released 8n my local stores.. and prices are different than what some CZcams channels had .. some more some less
If you can get me any prices I would appreciate it you can email me at myredemptiongarage@gmail.com or message me on facebook twitter or instagram or comment here if you can brother
1 price i have right now is the ratching reversible combination 14 peice wrench set is $119.99.
@@josephlawrence6873 thanks for that man if you find anymore then i would love to hear about it
Tekton sockets go up to 1” and have “no-skip”
Thanks for that info Jason
Nice tools but not original designs on the sockets and wrenches. I'm sorry. Will be passing on the Icon and stick with Carlyle.
Nothing is 100% “original“. Apple copies Samsung and Samsung copies Apple.
True but the quality whit time will tell and most will see icon don’t have long life quality that’s just my opinion HF no thanks
@@vanquishstorm3806 copy? take a look into the history of the swivel head ratchets? the patent was for the first one marketed by sk wayne in 1962, and it was about 25 years later snap on copied it, and so did about everyone on the planet. if you make a good design everyone is going to adopt it. hard to not copy an end wrench or a socket, or at least very much so...
id however your displeasure is with the use of almost the same font or part numbering system, maybe you have a point there.
of course you might consider it is harbor freight taking a jab or firing a shot across the bow of snap on.
HF seems to be suffering from some sort of inferiority complex with the marketing bs and comparisons it makes. They making themselves look like a bunch of producers of knockoffs in China when they used the same font on the stamp marks on the tools. They need to differentiate themselves. Gearwrench is a perfect example of how it pays to do so even if your tools are not the best.
They look good. I'll wait till I can get them in my hands to see if they feel good. We'll see what happens with pricing. I have no doubt there will be coupons for the ICON line. In my opinion, if they hold the prices down on them, they'll have success from the outset. If the prices creep up to established brands (Gearwrench, Tekton, etc) it might be a struggle, as HF has the reputation of "cheap tools", and attempting to rebrand at least part of your image to "professional tools" at much higher prices than people are used to seeing in the store, will be a steep uphill climb.
Here's another thing that's crossed my mind. If I end up buying some, I want them to succeed, because if this campaign fails, and the ICON line goes away, I'm stuck with tools that can't be replaced if I need to warranty one.
i dont want to fight to get thimgs replaced like i am for this tool chest i need fixed right now after being told when i bought the box that parts are easy to get
Yes snap on shallow 3/8's sae socket set goes up to 1"
I have seen it in impact but not chrome the chrome set in metric and standard that i have seen is the same as ICON do you have a set number I can look up?
214fsy it's a 14piece set and I believe they're flank drive extra....i might of misunderstood you of what you were comparing the SO set to but I just heard snap on doesn't go up to 1" and I know I have a set that does lol
@@christophergalla316 if they do then that is awesome I just havent seen them lol. Thanks for that Chris I will check it out.
@@christophergalla316 you are right they do and that is different from their standard 12 piece set. It is 269.99 online and the 12 piece set is 190 something. Thanks for that info I appreciate you!
Good video RG.. you sounded like a sales man giving a sales pitch tho 😂
Lmao that isnt intentional but my girlfriend says I am the Billy Mays of the tool world and I don't even really try 😂. I appreciate you watching brother
@@RedemptionGarage you need one of them micro phone headsets player....
They keep raising the prices and noone is goin to buy them, they are almost the same price as gearwrench now with the price hike. I'd like to start buying those tools because they look legit but if they keep raising prices I'll just pass
I wrote them again asking about that but just did so no word yet. I think we will get a better idea on pricing as we see any promos or coupons and get into these tools for a little while.
@@RedemptionGarage yea they initial proce points you had in your video were legit and I would 100% buy them but the price hike before they are even fully available gives me a little pause
That looks like columbus GA
Knock off tools that just raised their prices..No thanks
Agreed. The way those Icon sockets look exactly like Snap On sockets was the deal breaker for me. No thanx.
The stand up style snap on stock rails are magnetic. lay down/ new style are non magnetic. I have 5 different 3/8 drive snap on sets they all came sizes 1/4 to 7/8 . Sorry your buddy had bad snap on dealers I personally couldn't ask for a dude that I deal with.
I thought that was the case as well and he was mistaken. Thanks again brother
been following your youtube video's on the icon brand tools and all the bruhaha from those that are just rabid
when it comes to the other mainstream brands like snapon, mac, matco, cornwall etc. having been twisting wrenches
for 50 years now, i have used most everything... my take is this... the tool does not make the mechanic!
(actually good mechanics are known for making tools) In my experience yes snapon makes some good stuff
so does mac and the others. the very best by a large margin impact sockets were made by sk wayne ( the wayne years
from 62-68) and by a large margin, however no one talks about sk much even though the are good ole USA manufactured.
the worst ratchets ever made were snap on, however i am sure they have been forced to improve them over the years.
i see lots of talk about warranty on tools? what is all the fuss about warranty? i can honestly say every tool i ever broke was because i abused the darned thing, 4 foot cheater pipes will kill about any tool inserted into it, that is if you put enough oomph
into it.
as far as harbor freight? yes i have used their stuff for years, and of course there has been good, there has been bad, and there
has been very good and very bad as well. there very good V notch wrenches will and have proven to exceed the ability of all the major tool brands, at what? 10-20% of the price?
i expect the icon stuff to be very good as well, and i also expect the major tool truck vendors will come to rue the day that they came to market.
just wait and see, i give harbor freight 5 years and they will have tool trucks out running around delivering tools to your shop!
:)
Icon boxes are way overpriced . The tools are too
Snap on and matco and mat tool are gonna get mad with icon, harbor freight..😃🤫
Mac changed their open end wrench designe from hex like to the more conventional proto 500 because the jaws would spread out a little wider and the wrench would slip off easier than a snapon
Thanks for that info Doug
Cant judge a tool by its cover. Looking at them and using them are two entirely different things. Leave the tools with him and let him compare...
I will be testing them myself and I'm sure going back to Joe as well and we can test them more. Theres a lot to be discovered. Thanks for the suggestion. Ken.