Officially The New Best Hand Cannon In The Game

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  • Officially The New Best Hand Cannon In The Game
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  • @SayWallahBruh
    @SayWallahBruh  Před 9 měsíci +203

    This new mode is awesome. Not fighting constant invis or titan shields is so good. Some people might argue “is it still destiny without abilities?” But honestly the abilities still are part of the game. Just not constant spam. I’m so shocked bungie made it this good out of the gate.

    • @ethanhensley9355
      @ethanhensley9355 Před 9 měsíci +16

      Plus the gunplay in this game is a big part

    • @thelament
      @thelament Před 9 měsíci +19

      need this gamemode in comp 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥

    • @jWeslo
      @jWeslo Před 9 měsíci +9

      It's such a breath of fresh air, especially after the Craftening.

    • @lilguy325
      @lilguy325 Před 9 měsíci +16

      Its so nice not having 300 nades thrown at you in most engagements

    • @Bill_Dipperly
      @Bill_Dipperly Před 9 měsíci +5

      Games end way too quick tho. Score to end match needs an increase.

  • @ashenshugar8381
    @ashenshugar8381 Před 9 měsíci +241

    sturm has always been an underrated stat monster tbh, and with the right ornament that sight is cleaan

    • @Emotional.Damage265
      @Emotional.Damage265 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Which ornament?

    • @lilscrublord151
      @lilscrublord151 Před 9 měsíci +5

      @@Emotional.Damage265the one in the video

    • @DragonKnight90001
      @DragonKnight90001 Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@lilscrublord151it’s a nice ornament but I like the symbiosis ornament more.

    • @bread9923
      @bread9923 Před 9 měsíci

      Too bad the catalyst WONT DROP FOR ME

    • @ib5990
      @ib5990 Před 9 měsíci

      Always? Someone’s forgetting 😭😭

  • @eri_sister_of_aerial
    @eri_sister_of_aerial Před 9 měsíci +80

    I bet it'd feel EVEN better if you had Drang on to TWO tap in Checkmate with Sturm since Overcharge rounds are 80% boost to damage

    • @cerulean5032
      @cerulean5032 Před 9 měsíci +3

      Isn't it 80%?

    • @Lucas-m11
      @Lucas-m11 Před 9 měsíci +4

      @@cerulean5032 yeh it is 80%, not sure why he mentioned it would two tap in checkmate either like that wasn’t obvious 😂

    • @eri_sister_of_aerial
      @eri_sister_of_aerial Před 9 měsíci

      @cerulean5032 oh wait that's right my bad. I'm tired

    • @eri_sister_of_aerial
      @eri_sister_of_aerial Před 9 měsíci

      @@Lucas-m11 she*

    • @lionfire3359
      @lionfire3359 Před 9 měsíci

      Correction it's a definite 1 tap.

  • @Debaoth
    @Debaoth Před 9 měsíci +8

    Checkmate is definitely a fun twist but it should come in as a relentless playlist or a permanent mode along side with standard crucible to keep it fresh.

  • @Neon-Of-Ninja
    @Neon-Of-Ninja Před 9 měsíci +8

    Been using it for a bit now and Sturm feels so good. I really like drang too so I’m happy to pair it as well!

  • @TyrantRevolverOfficial
    @TyrantRevolverOfficial Před 9 měsíci +2

    My old school Igneous Hammer Adept sits on 90 range, 62 stability and 90 handling with elemental capacitor - it also has killing wind. Its an absurdly good roll and I am so thankful to have it.

  • @JM-wm8ip
    @JM-wm8ip Před 9 měsíci +2

    I have a few old adept igneous, my best one has to be fluted / appended / rapid hit / celerity (reload mw). Appended boosts the mag by 2 which is pretty huge for this gun, its nice. One of the best hand cannons in the game for sure

  • @BirdMoose
    @BirdMoose Před 9 měsíci +7

    ... I went flawless with Round Robin + Drang this weekend and it occurs to me I should have been using Sturm this whole time since I'm using drang anyway lol

  • @thelament
    @thelament Před 9 měsíci +41

    this gun is so clean and a stat monster, we need more exotic 120s 🙏🙏

    • @CausticRonin
      @CausticRonin Před 9 měsíci +5

      Yeah, still waiting on First Curse to come back.

  • @TheGonRam
    @TheGonRam Před 9 měsíci +16

    The best HC in the game is whatever you use my king

    • @jonahbrown5669
      @jonahbrown5669 Před 9 měsíci

      I use Le Monarque. Le Monarque is the best HC ❤

    • @giga-egg
      @giga-egg Před 9 měsíci

      @@jonahbrown5669 i see so many ppl praise le monarque
      why cant my ticcus get a bit of love?

  • @joshhawkins6163
    @joshhawkins6163 Před 9 měsíci +1

    i think perks for me can sometimes be more important than stats. my new adept igneous has keep away moving target, buffing reload, range, accuracy, strafe speed, and target acquisition. not to mention having alacrity or one quiet moment too. im sitting at like 55 handling and 100 range with KA. add on dexterity mods and it just seems to provide more overall, and can be used with conditional finality! i prefer the new perks to celerity for sure :)

  • @Qouth
    @Qouth Před 9 měsíci +5

    I actually love the way sturm looks, even the reticle on the ornament you use aswell. Best ornament for it by far

    • @angelousmortis8041
      @angelousmortis8041 Před 9 měsíci

      It always looked like a Star Wars Blaster to me, which I like.

  • @conbawn
    @conbawn Před 9 měsíci

    i have the old school igneous adept with rapid hit ECAP, stat monster on void/ arc. the ae is nice on strand as well. celerity as a back up if i run solar for the extra stats

  • @SayWallahBruh
    @SayWallahBruh  Před 9 měsíci +7

    Wishing I had that 5/5 celerity roll rn 🥲

    • @Caydeson-1
      @Caydeson-1 Před 9 měsíci

      Fluted, ricochet, killing wind, celerity, stability masterwork perhaps?
      80 range with an adept range mod?

    • @Luketheduke12
      @Luketheduke12 Před 9 měsíci

      You didn’t put quotes around “New”

    • @Red790
      @Red790 Před 9 měsíci

      @@Caydeson-1 4/5 at best

    • @Imnotreallyhere1638
      @Imnotreallyhere1638 Před 9 měsíci

      I have smallbore, ricochet rounds, rapid hit, celerity, range masterwork, adept range masterwork. Perfect god roll stat monster 👍

    • @Red790
      @Red790 Před 9 měsíci

      @@Imnotreallyhere1638 not a god roll, but a solid one

  • @Welverin
    @Welverin Před 9 měsíci +2

    Would love to hear a video that is just your thoughts on the new game mode.

  • @connerobrien6181
    @connerobrien6181 Před 9 měsíci

    I have an old adept igneous with overflow and opening shot, it slaps frfr

  • @blufferoniandcheese3628
    @blufferoniandcheese3628 Před 9 měsíci

    was just using it like two days ago for the first time in a while. feels awesome

  • @Ivyxaps5
    @Ivyxaps5 Před 9 měsíci

    I actually just found an og igneous hammer adept in my vault with hammer forged, ricochet rounds, killing wind, celerity or opening shot with a handling masterwork. They need to bring back celerity.

  • @lovmyrx7841
    @lovmyrx7841 Před 9 měsíci

    Much slept on sturm/drang knucklehead combo, my go to.

  • @Zlealot
    @Zlealot Před 9 měsíci

    i love wallah just chillin with his buddies it’s entertaining

  • @themrctulhu2554
    @themrctulhu2554 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Hard agree on Igneous point.
    The fact that Bungie removed Quickdraw and Snapshot from it is a crime.
    I still have my OG with QD + SS, and it feels so much better than re-issued one

  • @holoreturns
    @holoreturns Před 9 měsíci

    The banter between y'all is the best shit, my bet for a solid video is saving the funny moments and tossing them into a full video one day

  • @dec556
    @dec556 Před 9 měsíci

    I have an adept Igneous (old version) with 98 stat range and 86 handling w/ elecap and killingwind on top after a kill. Imo its the best 120 rolled HC, unreal range.

  • @elomice568
    @elomice568 Před 9 měsíci

    i have the old ingeous with smallbore riccochet rapid hit celerity range mw and handling adept = 87 range 55 stability 70 handling 53 reload

  • @Devilsruinguy
    @Devilsruinguy Před 9 měsíci +54

    Day 294 asking for wallah to become the hammer of dawn aka devils ruin with wings of sacred dawn

    • @davidorgeson5449
      @davidorgeson5449 Před 9 měsíci +3

      At first I thought this was a joke...
      Day 2

    • @Tylerino
      @Tylerino Před 9 měsíci +2

      Keep it up bro!!!
      It'll happen eventually!
      Your an inspiration to us all

    • @rickjames2009
      @rickjames2009 Před 9 měsíci

      Come on wallah just do it 💯

    • @jumpmanshadow2260
      @jumpmanshadow2260 Před 9 měsíci

      Day 300 its going to happen watch

  • @KremitDie1129
    @KremitDie1129 Před 9 měsíci

    Hey wallah have you tried a word of crota with sword logic yet? I've been using it in crucible and it's crazy consistent

  • @jaysick3868
    @jaysick3868 Před 9 měsíci +1

    The animations of the sturm are ingrained into my mind, I used this gun so much when I first got it

    • @Angelzvx
      @Angelzvx Před 9 měsíci +1

      Wish it was a frame, love the way it reloads.

  • @ImitationJesus
    @ImitationJesus Před 9 měsíci

    Hoping you do make a video about Checkmate. Wanna hear your thoughts about it

  • @MrNutz87
    @MrNutz87 Před 9 měsíci +1

    as a sniper player, i havent been able to put down sunshot. Feels incredible after the changes

  • @ghostforgotten5280
    @ghostforgotten5280 Před 9 měsíci

    Yo what shader do you use bro?

  • @YouAmazing13
    @YouAmazing13 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Only gripe with this mode is the score limit I think it should be 150 or something just a bit more for more kills

  • @BenJAMMIN03
    @BenJAMMIN03 Před 9 měsíci

    yooo thats me in the vid at 4:14 and my friend was the one who freeze rifted u lol

  • @BigDaddyBeefPatty
    @BigDaddyBeefPatty Před 9 měsíci +7

    I'm excited to get home and try this mode. The builds in destiny are becoming very powerful and they need a nerf in pvp honestly. It's awesome for pve I enjoy the power creep there. But there gets to be too many situations in pvp where there's just nothing you can do. I love that this mode focuses primary fights.

  • @FujiwaraDF
    @FujiwaraDF Před 9 měsíci +1

    1v1s in this mode instead of rumble would be so good specifically against titan overshield and like you said invis hunters

  • @kojji8558
    @kojji8558 Před 9 měsíci

    My favorite wallah bit is the NOOOO that is followed by an offscreen death

  • @kylespencer2645
    @kylespencer2645 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Man I’ve still never played the new map and I’ve reset my rank twice

  • @LeJunny
    @LeJunny Před 9 měsíci +4

    I have 95 range on my Igneous not including Keep Away, that thing hits from far. I’m an Ophidian crutch so Handling isn’t a dealbreaker for my primaries and once Synthoceps gets changed they’re going to be great for close gun fights. Basically free Threat Detector

    • @fotis3v480
      @fotis3v480 Před 9 měsíci

      I mean iggy can get 50-60handling with 90-100 range rather easily so eh.

    • @LeJunny
      @LeJunny Před 9 měsíci

      @@fotis3v480 mine has 50 Handling, I could use Adept Handling for 60 Handling

  • @hexalot4357
    @hexalot4357 Před 9 měsíci +1

    YOOOOO wallah I was Doif in game 1, glad you got the name right first try. Funny thing is I recognized Gary first before I saw you, nice 15.5 kd lol

  • @ShadowChaolan
    @ShadowChaolan Před 9 měsíci

    Is that new background music I hear? It feels like I've been hearing the same thing for years now before this video.
    Also, I think you should do a video on your Checkmate thoughts, especially as it could help other players decide whether they want to invest time into the game mode

  • @covante4822
    @covante4822 Před 9 měsíci

    3:53 You're out here looking like me every time I pop that super.

  • @Orivv123
    @Orivv123 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Glad I kept my s13 adept igneous . Fluted , ricochet , rapid hit , celerity or opening shot , range mw . Has 90 range , 53 stab , 75 handling stat monster !!

  • @warreaver67
    @warreaver67 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Use it with drang. After drang kill, 144 crit from Sturm.

  • @NEWGHOST9
    @NEWGHOST9 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Time is a flat circle, and so the sturm returns…
    And honestly almost never see ppl pairing sturm with the drang anymore tho, even though it is strong

  • @dalebarrs297
    @dalebarrs297 Před 9 měsíci +1

    This video really makes me wish we could get The First Curse back. Really miss that gun

  • @midn16ht48
    @midn16ht48 Před 9 měsíci

    Checkmate needs to be the new mode for comp and trials right now

  • @sparky00777
    @sparky00777 Před 9 měsíci

    Round Robin with elemental capacitor on arc has very similar stats

  • @Auloma
    @Auloma Před 9 měsíci +2

    gary my goat for that snipe on Grim 🥸

  • @GageMason
    @GageMason Před 8 měsíci

    My only gripe with the new mode is some of the ttk tuning makes some weapons so useless against others. 120s are just hyper dominant. Id like it better if they had current weapon tuning but it all of the special and ability changes from checkmate.

  • @nerfycat8429
    @nerfycat8429 Před 9 měsíci

    I wish I could use Sturm but I just hate how the sight looks

  • @HoopleHeadUSA
    @HoopleHeadUSA Před 9 měsíci

    Would love to see with Drang!

  • @kostistsiutras4373
    @kostistsiutras4373 Před 9 měsíci

    i been killin vex 4 hours a day, 3 weeks now in Nessus and the catalyst doesnt fckn drop. Is the catalyst bugged?

  • @AmeButCool
    @AmeButCool Před 9 měsíci

    I'm in the vid lmao 4:19
    Goated freeze rift lol

  • @adamstaples9158
    @adamstaples9158 Před 9 měsíci

    “Checkmate feels like a totally new game”
    *proceeds to fly around the map with grapple eager edge and a shotgun like normal*

  • @onegirltwojackets2835
    @onegirltwojackets2835 Před 9 měsíci

    This is the first (and only) weapon I've gotten a We Ran with

  • @PoeMojoStudio
    @PoeMojoStudio Před 9 měsíci

    If you can tolerate not having a special, running with Drang means you can 2-tap after only one kill with drang

  • @elliotkollar3672
    @elliotkollar3672 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Anyone know how to get the catalyst. I sat on Nessus for like an hour doing Lost sectors and didn’t get it.

    • @cyber8185
      @cyber8185 Před 9 měsíci

      Keep going then

    • @joseluissilva6027
      @joseluissilva6027 Před 9 měsíci

      Bruh, I feel you my friend. Yesterday I spent most of my afternoon grinding for that crap and nothing yet. I doubt its existence at this point lol.

  • @IskaRiot84
    @IskaRiot84 Před 9 měsíci

    So what's the god roll on the old Igneous Hammer? I still have a few adepts I rarely used after they nerfed 2tapping with rampage.

  • @papaspaulding
    @papaspaulding Před 9 měsíci +7

    abilites being calmed down in pvp is something destiny has needed for so long I feel, where you have builds focused around loops of ability spam inside a mode that SHOULD be all about gunplay this mode feels refreshing

  • @pollyn9582
    @pollyn9582 Před 9 měsíci

    Keep away opening shot with max handling igneos 3 taps fine at 40 meters with first bullet hitting max and next hitting 72’s, i would prob still use igneos over sturm

  • @marshmallowcat2456
    @marshmallowcat2456 Před 9 měsíci

    I love this handcannon and would have absolutely tried to abuse it in crucible with drang if the dot on the sight wasnt on the rear post. Makes it impossible to aim for me unless i'm standing still

  • @omniocular
    @omniocular Před 9 měsíci +1

    As someone with 3k crucible kills with Sturm I can confidently say: it’s always been the best

  • @ZensivYT
    @ZensivYT Před 9 měsíci +2

    ive had sturm for awhile but never got the catay is it still possible to get?

    • @SayWallahBruh
      @SayWallahBruh  Před 9 měsíci +1

      It’s for sure still in the game but not 100% on how it drops

  • @KFCLinan
    @KFCLinan Před 9 měsíci

    I love how he explained that keep aways perk with the range wasn't useful, when there are enemies close... Lol

  • @Subsistence69
    @Subsistence69 Před 9 měsíci

    Sturm is one of my favorite guns in the game. Drang is cool too but Im just not a sidearm guy lol the wwII look of em is amazing though and Sturm is a monster

  • @Tehkneekz
    @Tehkneekz Před 9 měsíci

    Foundry is not updated yet after the fall off changes, Sturm is hitting closer to 41m

  • @crabbypatty10fefrefe
    @crabbypatty10fefrefe Před 9 měsíci +1

    It would be nice if they changed the exotic perk to work with ALL side arms and not just Drang.

  • @LuniNightwind
    @LuniNightwind Před 9 měsíci +2

    You can use other weapons in checkmate but you're hindering yourself not using these HC, cause their TTK hasn't been effected

  • @wasabi-iy3qb
    @wasabi-iy3qb Před 9 měsíci +3

    Thumbnail looks really clean

  • @miss_adventure
    @miss_adventure Před 9 měsíci

    This thumbnail was killer 🤩

  • @idoqpobi
    @idoqpobi Před 9 měsíci

    was just using it the other day lol

  • @josephjackson9236
    @josephjackson9236 Před 9 měsíci

    I religiously used Sturm and Drang the first two years of Destiny 2, so glad its viable now

  • @hanneskoehler6791
    @hanneskoehler6791 Před 8 měsíci

    Can you still get the catalyst? And how?

  • @HawkmoonaMatata
    @HawkmoonaMatata Před 9 měsíci +11

    It was fun playing against you on Eternity Wallah! GGs and glad you're enjoying the mode. I loooove the lack of titan barricades and warlock rifts too, even if I think Hand Cannons are maybe a bit too hot and the obvious choice, lol. Looking forward to the finer tweaks because everything else is a certified banger.

  • @MrDaemonic6
    @MrDaemonic6 Před 9 měsíci

    Main problem of thew Sturm it's his impact, if look it's not vertical and this mess up all positive about this gun.
    Plus exotic perk not so exotic.

  • @ajsultani1636
    @ajsultani1636 Před 9 měsíci

    Checkmate is handholding, bows, HC’s, and the one guy ruining the party with fighting lion.

  • @freericeandbeans7553
    @freericeandbeans7553 Před 9 měsíci

    What’s the god roll iggy from the past?

  • @Sturm_and_Drang
    @Sturm_and_Drang Před 9 měsíci +1

    This thing has been meta ever since it’s dropped, Sturm sweep

  • @vitamindevil-g3250
    @vitamindevil-g3250 Před 9 měsíci

    Its always been the best HC in the game for awhile... it 2 tap guaranteed after 1 kill with drang... which is the fastest ttk close range primary (non exotic) weapon in the game. I've been using this for a long time now paired with drang, and it's just too good

  • @Ethonra
    @Ethonra Před 9 měsíci +4

    As someone that has mained Handcannons since D1; I look forward to your thoughts on HC changes. I recently got back into D2...like a few hours ago, so the info during a match or two would be cool.

    • @Subsistence69
      @Subsistence69 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Hand cannons are very good again since they decoupled range and zoom

    • @Ethonra
      @Ethonra Před 9 měsíci

      @@Subsistence69 Oh neat.

    • @Subsistence69
      @Subsistence69 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@Ethonra very neat

  • @synth1770
    @synth1770 Před 9 měsíci

    Thank god wallah doesnt use blink i think this man would be a demon if he started using blink for movement

  • @snowhare1
    @snowhare1 Před 9 měsíci

    Honestly every gun looks good when wallah used it

  • @auxri1
    @auxri1 Před 9 měsíci

    Checkmate Control, made me think of Comp cod Cold War lol

  • @arg_n
    @arg_n Před 9 měsíci

    anyone know which shader he's using on his armour?

  • @Lifesteal8
    @Lifesteal8 Před 9 měsíci

    “You get strum early on in the game” im at power 1085 no sturm never even seen one in game before

  • @seangallaher67
    @seangallaher67 Před 9 měsíci

    Haha I always used sterm my favorite gun besides Tommy’s matchbook

  • @fylbrom
    @fylbrom Před 9 měsíci

    It's good to see how much better Gary has gotten compared to even a year ago

  • @mrdrprofessoroak497
    @mrdrprofessoroak497 Před 9 měsíci

    Old igneous with the right roll still completely outclasses it in almost every way, although tbf very few people probably have that good of an adept roll. I got really lucky and have one with 90 range, 62 stab, quickdraw, and a choice between snapshot and celerity, and I prefer fractethyst over matador, so I'll likely never use sturm.

    • @thanksssd
      @thanksssd Před 9 měsíci

      Idk if anyone agrees with me, but I have the old igneous god roll and I just prefer the way sturm feels. I also like using Matador 64 which is why I always use sturm over igneous.

  • @lilmorth4809
    @lilmorth4809 Před 9 měsíci

    Checkmate is made for Sturm and Drang. 🤤

  • @thealoofhermit
    @thealoofhermit Před 9 měsíci +1

    so the new igneous hammer has lower handling stat than the old version?

  • @crabbit.
    @crabbit. Před 9 měsíci +1

    I’m going to have to disagree. While I used to use Sturm quite a bit, the new Igneous Hammer just feels better. With keep away and adept range my roll is hitting 98 range. It’s also got higher aim assist and stability. I guess it depends on your input method and character though because Ophidians just erases any handling or reload speed problems.

  • @BC-ni6hp
    @BC-ni6hp Před 9 měsíci +2

    It hurts me that you can’t progress the catalyst

  • @timwoodhouse688
    @timwoodhouse688 Před 9 měsíci

    Funny I just tried this and I too thought it felt pretty nice.

  • @totallyenormous8859
    @totallyenormous8859 Před 9 měsíci

    Igneous you can get 90 range, 65 handling, same stab with keep away and any other perk, that will be actually useful, I take that over +5 handling and zero perks

  • @thebabycakes
    @thebabycakes Před 9 měsíci

    Try izanagi in checkmate you get a full clip everytime

  • @xthecre8or735
    @xthecre8or735 Před 9 měsíci

    Bold statement when igneous exists

  • @kevinmad0959
    @kevinmad0959 Před 9 měsíci

    how is it in normal pvp?

  • @SpongyBus
    @SpongyBus Před 9 měsíci

    Why do people always use a adept handle mod and not an Icarus they both give handling

  • @SpaghettiTop
    @SpaghettiTop Před 9 měsíci

    If you ain't going for the two Tao with drang, your missing out on alot of fun

  • @senseidames9972
    @senseidames9972 Před 9 měsíci

    Why is it every gun gets a nerf in checkmate with scouts getting a double nerf but handcannons got a 10% damage buff?

  • @thanksssd
    @thanksssd Před 9 měsíci

    Idk if anyone agrees with me, but I have the old igneous god roll and I just prefer the way sturm feels. I also like using Matador 64 which is why I always use sturm over igneous.