Why Do Tubes Have A Shiny Spot?

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  • čas přidán 27. 07. 2024
  • If you've ever looked at a thermionic valve (or vacuum tube) you may have noticed the shiny, silvery spot on the inside of the glass.
    Have you ever wondered why that's there or what it does?
    Well wonder no longer, this video has the answers.
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Komentáře • 137

  • @CatPickStudios
    @CatPickStudios Před 6 lety +55

    This video took me on a journey from wondering what's the shiny spot on the vacuum tube to whether I like casual chemistry or not. That's a lot to think about in 3 minutes.

  • @RudyAyoub
    @RudyAyoub Před 6 lety +4

    I have missed you❤️

  • @jpalberthoward9
    @jpalberthoward9 Před rokem

    I learned all of my tube-ology from my grandfather, who was an old timey radio guy. He was a WW 1 vet who built his first crystal radio in 1914. He was in on tubes from day one, reading about Lee de Forest in the paper. He had vast knowledge of the subject.
    Why do I tell you this?
    When I was a kid, I asked grandpa about the shiny spot.
    He didn't know.
    You're one up on my grandpa, a man whom I loved and looked up to for many other things besides just electronics. Good job.
    That's the kind of thing that he respected.
    If he was here, he'd offer you a martini and a cigar, and probably play some Louis Armstrong records for you. That's what he did with people he liked.
    CHEERS !!

  • @cinnamonnoir2487
    @cinnamonnoir2487 Před 6 lety +9

    This knowledge was probably a lot more common back when TVs and other electrical appliances still relied on vacuum tubes. Now, of course, the technology has become a lot more advanced, so most of us don't even think about how our appliances work except for a vague conception that it's probably something we wouldn't understand.
    _Progress_

    • @ScienceofLoud
      @ScienceofLoud  Před 6 lety +4

      As Arthur C Clarke said "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic"

  • @derpimusmaximus8815
    @derpimusmaximus8815 Před 6 lety +13

    FWIW, you can also take the barium orally for upper GI tract investigations, but the suspension used(at least for a swallow or follow-through contrast) is basically a chalk milkshake, but without any of the enjoyment that phrase suggests.
    Which is none at all.

    • @seanp777
      @seanp777 Před 6 lety +1

      Derpimus Maximus having had the pleasure of an upper and lower GI. I can confirm your statement. Neither of which were fun 😊 At least the tests came back negative. 👍🏼

    • @aperfecttool257
      @aperfecttool257 Před 6 lety

      Derpimus Maximus I dunno, tastes good if you can't taste

  • @BertGrink
    @BertGrink Před 6 lety +4

    Did you hear about the sick chemist?
    They couldn't Helium, and they couldn't Curium, so finally they had to Barium. ;)

  • @espvp95
    @espvp95 Před 6 lety +2

    I really like the subjects you choose for your videos. No I’ve never really wondered what that was... until you told me.

  • @timmotel5804
    @timmotel5804 Před rokem

    4/2023: Excellent and educational as always. Thanks

  • @dercebe
    @dercebe Před 2 lety

    Small addition: While the getter helps to cut down on evacuation demands ( time and level ) in production and takes care of later outgassing of the components inside the tube, an oxide cathode tube - practically all tubes in your run of the mill guitar amp - absolutely needs a getter to be operational for any extended period of time. The operation of these cathodes will produce free oxygen over time when reducing the barium oxide to barium metal in an eloctrolytic process ( this barium on the cathode surface is what makes this type of cathode such a good emitter of electrons ). So it would effectively poison itself if there was no getter to take care of these newly released oxygen molecules.

  • @ErebosGR
    @ErebosGR Před 6 lety +8

    "Hey vSauce, Colin here."

  • @onpsxmember
    @onpsxmember Před 6 lety +15

    Short, educational and air tight like the tubes.
    Keep it that way.
    The Elements by Theodore Gray...everything that is build up in short chapters is perfect for the toilet.
    It beats looking at dumb shit on the phone.

    • @shmergulflargamish524
      @shmergulflargamish524 Před 6 lety

      onpsxmember I second this.

    • @blisterbrain
      @blisterbrain Před 6 lety +1

      The shit should be in the bowl, not on your phone. I think you're doing it wrong.

    • @onpsxmember
      @onpsxmember Před 6 lety

      But it's so worth it, gloating over the tears of apple fanboys.

  • @Bagledog5000
    @Bagledog5000 Před 6 lety

    Awesome vid sir, I'm old enough to remember tubes in everything! I remember testing them on the machine at the drugstore, but pops always threw any with a white top straight out. Now I know why, thanks!

  • @Superjet113
    @Superjet113 Před 6 lety +2

    Good info, never thought about it, and I love tube amps...

  • @robertenache8463
    @robertenache8463 Před 6 lety

    Thank you Colin!

  • @tomclarkson1257
    @tomclarkson1257 Před 6 lety +14

    Kids : "grandad what's Collin from csguitars"
    Me: *"a genius, a legend, a god"*

    • @Steph-de6ne
      @Steph-de6ne Před 6 lety +1

      Tom Clarkson the mesiah of gain

  • @CastToVoid
    @CastToVoid Před 6 lety +3

    Good 'ol Barry Um. Nice guy, still owes me money tho.

  • @Mayyde
    @Mayyde Před 6 lety +12

    Thank you for the knowledge, you sexy beast, you.

  • @camelwalk97
    @camelwalk97 Před 6 lety

    Love your vids. Bottoms up!

  • @Blaydrnnnr
    @Blaydrnnnr Před 6 lety

    Freakin awesome vid... great work.... always a pleasure my friend!

  • @Steph-de6ne
    @Steph-de6ne Před 6 lety

    The shiny bit was originaly put there so you can catch a glimse of your self wearing the new Colins Sexy Guitars Tshit whilst observing you walves in you quintesential metal amplifire. The bit about it oxydising was descovered later on when one of the walves cracked from all the gain.

  • @PatrikTerminate
    @PatrikTerminate Před 6 lety

    This is actually VERY interesting information!

  • @Bleats_Sinodai
    @Bleats_Sinodai Před 6 lety

    Another great, technically accurate video! Wonderful!

  • @Fletcher883
    @Fletcher883 Před 6 lety

    The older valves you are referring to probably did have a getter. Flashed getters are not the only kind of getter used an I'm not aware of any receiving tube without a getter. Look at a Svetlana 6550B-3 for example, you can clearly see the getter 'halo' without any deposit on the glass envelope.

  • @grasshopperhawk
    @grasshopperhawk Před 6 lety

    Why yes, I did say Barium. Thank you for taking the subject further.

  • @BrainyBoy1200
    @BrainyBoy1200 Před 6 lety

    Holy crap, I never knew Mullard had a factory in Blackburn. I didn't know anything cool EVER came out of Blackburn!

    • @jpalberthoward9
      @jpalberthoward9 Před rokem

      But there are 4 thousand holes in Blackburn Lancashire. The holes were rather small but they had to count them all.
      Now they know how many holes it takes to fill the Albert Hall.
      I'd love to turn you on.
      At least that's what John Lennon said.

  • @MyButtsBeenWiped
    @MyButtsBeenWiped Před 6 lety

    Hey, Colin !
    Love your videos !
    I noticed that you are wearing a Christian Cross as a Necklace, as well as a Hammer of Thor, albeit, an Upside Down Hammer of Thor !
    Is there any significance to the Hammer of Thor being worn Upsdie Down as opposed to Rightside Up ?!?
    I don't know.
    Anyway, I just thought that you should know that it is a Conflict of Interest, wearing BOTH at the same time.
    As a Side Note, I like the Hammer of Thor, but, I would have preferred that it be displayed Rightside Up !

  • @blizzbee
    @blizzbee Před 5 lety +1

    This "guitar" channel is generally more talk and less play BUT I love the way it is and want Colin to keep doing it this way!!! Colin is the missing piece of the guitar social network.

  • @peted450
    @peted450 Před 6 lety

    Very interesting👍, great video....now I know

  • @flatsix666
    @flatsix666 Před 6 lety

    I thought it was to spread the heat evenly to prevent a hot spot at the top of the valve, but happy to stand corrected :)

  • @samclemmons2830
    @samclemmons2830 Před 6 lety

    I've had an x-ray of my digestive system, and all I had to do was eat a radioactive peanut butter sandwich.
    Lucky me.

  • @fomalhaut9
    @fomalhaut9 Před 5 lety

    Yay Barry Barry Barry. Wonderful appearance. But as an aside - can a vacuum leave a tube?

  • @joshp5563
    @joshp5563 Před 6 lety

    I have that exact Element book!!!

  • @malavparmar7694
    @malavparmar7694 Před 6 lety

    Highly informative videos with fancy accent!! Love the content keep it up

    • @RudyAyoub
      @RudyAyoub Před 6 lety +1

      Malav potato annihilator dont annihilate my potatos pls

  • @setphaser
    @setphaser Před 5 lety

    i can’t believe you got an enema into a video about tubes

  • @sohamsengupta6470
    @sohamsengupta6470 Před 5 lety

    Nobody:
    Absolutely nobody:
    Blue thingy:DiD sOmEoNe SaY BaRiUm?

  • @gyrospace2
    @gyrospace2 Před 6 lety

    Cool, thank you

  • @gringogreen4719
    @gringogreen4719 Před 6 lety

    Thank you Collin...I always wondered about that. So cheers and...
    Bottoms up!💩👍

  • @d.sandell2555
    @d.sandell2555 Před 6 lety

    Good to know

  • @samuelxavier2473
    @samuelxavier2473 Před 5 lety

    "Wet physics" Hahaha! Top lad!

  • @mcswordfish
    @mcswordfish Před 6 lety +13

    Crivvens, if Chemistry is Wet Physics, what do you call Biology (other than "Away outside and count the railings")?

  • @MsHashy420
    @MsHashy420 Před 6 lety

    Can you do more random facts videos. This was awesome dude

  • @AlanJWatkins
    @AlanJWatkins Před 6 lety

    Bottoms up!

  • @littleboi3343
    @littleboi3343 Před 6 lety +7

    What dies Colin do when he needs to do laundry? He buys ALL THE GAIN!!!!

  • @aztec999999
    @aztec999999 Před 6 lety

    You rule Colin

  • @stupidjubei
    @stupidjubei Před 6 lety

    What is the orange amp looking thing with your logo on top the Marshall in the background?

  • @dionr1168
    @dionr1168 Před 6 lety

    Can you do a video on how to bias a tube/valve amp?

  • @Ryandgeorgi
    @Ryandgeorgi Před 6 lety

    I understood nothing. Loved it!

  • @vexguine
    @vexguine Před 5 lety

    Mannn.. this video solved my questions. I was playing in a rehearsal and after 10 minutes or so my amp (single ended EL34 on power) just stop sounding. The pilot led was normal, no smell of smoke at all and the fuse was intact. So I came to a tech guy thinking N possibilities. I was wondering if a voltage peak in the studio maybe caused this to te valve. But what the odds of burning only the valve and keeping the rest ok? Anyway. So the technician told me to change the EL34, and confirmed that everything else was ok. Now I'm wainting the valve to arrive..... THEN I found this video... AND just found that my EL34 has that WHITE THING ON TOP!!!! So maybe this happened: in transportation the glass suffered a little damage, not enough to cause a leak. Then I started playing. When heated, the glass expanded, causing more damage to the tiny spot damaged. Then the vaccum gone away. Then the valve fried and the sound stopped. SOOOO, THANKS FOR THIS VIDEO.

  • @heavymetalmixer91
    @heavymetalmixer91 Před 6 lety

    "No? I'm gonna tell you anyway! :D " LMAO

  • @godzilla964
    @godzilla964 Před 4 lety

    The getter spot on one of my 12ax7's died. What causes tubes to spontaniously crack?

  • @guitaristwilllane
    @guitaristwilllane Před 6 lety +1

    "bottoms up"
    ahahahahahahahahaha!!!

  • @PsychoMantis308
    @PsychoMantis308 Před 6 lety

    Bottoms up

  • @aquilarossa5191
    @aquilarossa5191 Před 6 lety

    Yikes. I do not want to getter xray like that. I wonder if the barium will adsorb excess gasses after a can of baked beans though.

  • @DanielMarrable
    @DanielMarrable Před 6 lety

    Acquired from the Curiosity Box no doubt

  • @5BBassist4Christ
    @5BBassist4Christ Před 6 lety

    "A Shiny Spot" -yeah, that's the whole reason I watched this video.

  • @AvyScottandFlower
    @AvyScottandFlower Před 6 lety

    What is the show cesium and iodine love watching together?
    A: CSI
    nope.. not CSG :(

  • @paulproductions9213
    @paulproductions9213 Před 6 lety

    you know your trade brother

  • @mattmanbrownbro
    @mattmanbrownbro Před 6 lety

    It's called a Gettysburg?

  • @pympin87
    @pympin87 Před 6 lety +6

    i thought the silver spot was to try to reduce noise ... had no idea about the actual function

    • @crazygeronimoe
      @crazygeronimoe Před 6 lety

      the silver is caused by the getter being fired to get rid of the last of oxygen in valve

  • @turbine3780
    @turbine3780 Před 6 lety

    What was said ecc83 from

  • @JDODify
    @JDODify Před 6 lety

    You're not wearing an England shirt for the world cup, Colin?

  • @THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS
    @THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS Před 6 lety

    Cuz METAL dudes like shiny stuff? PURE METAL!
    /w\SlayeriZer/w\

  • @ZachKyew
    @ZachKyew Před 6 lety

    Evveryone knnows its a bad idea to crank your power amp tubes up all the way, (right?) but what about your preamp tubes?

  • @chomby3
    @chomby3 Před 6 lety

    How does vacuum leave the tube?

    • @Iam_Dunn
      @Iam_Dunn Před 6 lety

      Yamil Yamil ....Wellllll, every adventure starts with _that first step!_ :)

  • @micha-elcleveland1265
    @micha-elcleveland1265 Před 6 lety

    If your tube sucks, perhaps they recycleld the barium

  • @xr8fairmont
    @xr8fairmont Před 6 lety

    The parallax of a star is defined as half of the angular distance that a star appears to move relative to the celestial sphere as Earth orbits the Sun. The distance being equal to the gap between Colin's intelligence and that of every other human on this planet.

  • @userPrehistoricman
    @userPrehistoricman Před 6 lety

    "The vacuum has left the tube"
    Hmmm...

    • @slidey1000
      @slidey1000 Před 6 lety

      Prehistoricman we better watch out for roaming vacuums....

  • @davidtomkins4242
    @davidtomkins4242 Před 6 lety

    *smashing*

  • @yvan2218
    @yvan2218 Před 6 lety

    Nepple

  • @hbomb495
    @hbomb495 Před 6 lety

    BARRY!!!
    😃😃😃

  • @alihassoun10
    @alihassoun10 Před 6 lety

    thanks for sharing that knowledge!
    I wonder if you have an engineering background or not?

    • @ScienceofLoud
      @ScienceofLoud  Před 6 lety +3

      I have a master's degree in physics and work as an electronics technician.

    • @alihassoun10
      @alihassoun10 Před 6 lety

      CSGuitars cheers from a computers engineering student! ;)
      love your stuff please keep it up it helps us a lot
      thanks again!

  • @oldgoat381
    @oldgoat381 Před 6 lety

    Did someone say Barium?

  • @scriptosaurusrex
    @scriptosaurusrex Před 6 lety

    Toobs!

  • @RussCottier
    @RussCottier Před 6 lety

    Well this is a great video but a bit misleading...the getter isn't really for indication or safety, the reason for the getter is to adsorb/react with any stray, unwanted gas molecules. The inside of the sealed valve can release gases and so the getter is a lifelong tool.
    Without this the valve's vacuum is compromised. Function and longevity will suffer.

    • @wea69420
      @wea69420 Před 6 lety

      Russell Cottier
      What gases can come from the inside of a valve?

    • @RussCottier
      @RussCottier Před 6 lety

      Fabián Riquelme I think adsorbed hydrogen is released along with some other gases.
      I'd have to reacquaint myself with the details...it's been a long time.
      So you get ionisation causing conduction and the near vacuum's insulating properties are negated somewhat causing currents to flow within the valve in unpredictable and undesirable routes.
      So really we want the getter to adsorb these gases more readily than the valve is releasing them.
      The mention of newer valves using getters is a bit spurious as I personally have very old valves with getters. I know they have been used since the 1950s at least.

    • @wea69420
      @wea69420 Před 6 lety

      Russell Cottier
      Oh, I see. Is this solely because of adsorption? Because in that case the presence of gases would amount to a production "defect" (although not one that's very controllable).
      Regarding the video though, I think Colin was explaining the utility of a getter for the person operating the amp, as a telltale signs of gas filtrations.

    • @RussCottier
      @RussCottier Před 6 lety

      Fabián Riquelme yeah mostly adsorbed gases I think. Maybe some impurities released from the heater too (but that's a guess).
      It's technically a kind of safety feature in that Super High voltages can't exist on the glass if the vacuum is maintained and current is limited but it's really not there as an indicator. After all in most cases you will hear the amp fail before you look at the valve.
      The getter has a function that is needed for efficient operation and longevity maintaining the vacuum.
      Don't get me wrong COLIN YOU ROCK and talking about valves is awesome even if the specifics are a little bit misleading.

    • @wea69420
      @wea69420 Před 6 lety +1

      Russell Cottier
      Well, thanks man, I learnt something new.

  • @o.phillips2522
    @o.phillips2522 Před 6 lety

    Aye haet whein tha choobs churn whait.

  • @pauliejay4161
    @pauliejay4161 Před 6 lety +1

    Wet physics... :-)

  • @the_pathologist
    @the_pathologist Před 6 lety

    neato

  • @beaverhead01
    @beaverhead01 Před 6 lety

    fyi barium is also given by ivs, and believ it or not even when given by ivs it still has the exact same taste as when you drink it. or maybe that was all in my head. but i swear i could taste that crap the entire 2 hours i lie upon that xray table hooked up to a barrium iv yuck lol.

  • @Take-the-Ticket
    @Take-the-Ticket Před 6 lety

    BARIUM? I HARDLY KNOW HIM

  • @GraemeSheridan
    @GraemeSheridan Před 6 lety +1

    Wet Physics :-D :-D :-D

  • @Kreln1221
    @Kreln1221 Před 6 lety

    Wouldn't the barium also react and combine with what minuscule trace amounts of oxygen that was left over from the vacuum process, and then oxidize and thus convert what tiny amount of pure gaseous oxygen left into a solid oxide film, which being stuck to the glass envelope, would keep the oxide separate from the active metallic components of the valve/tube, extending, if only slightly, the service life of the valve/tube?

  • @FeralMarauder
    @FeralMarauder Před 6 lety

    Can this video stay at zero dislikes.

  • @hazrod13
    @hazrod13 Před 6 lety

    Noice

  • @LordPadriac
    @LordPadriac Před 5 lety

    Who the hell used to call chemistry "wet physics"? First time I've heard that.

    • @ScienceofLoud
      @ScienceofLoud  Před 5 lety

      You must be a chemist, we don't tend to say it to your face.

    • @LordPadriac
      @LordPadriac Před 5 lety

      Perhaps maybe it's an across the pond thing? My brother's a chemist and my other brother took several chem classes for his lab sciences and I swear I've never heard it before. I mean it makes a certain amount of sense as a nickname for the science. It just struck me as also really odd. Either way another excellent video.

  • @johnmayo4866
    @johnmayo4866 Před 6 lety

    😂🤣Bottoms up

  • @triledink
    @triledink Před 6 lety +2

    shiny spot? more like bald spot.

  • @shaunw9270
    @shaunw9270 Před 5 lety

    Did yea know , when yea sneeze , it comes out yer nose at 100 miles an hour .. just like that... It's a well known fact 😉👌

  • @Iam_Dunn
    @Iam_Dunn Před 6 lety

    Didn’t know, didn’t care. Now I know, still don’t care... LOL :)
    Of course you know what I had to do with my dead dog.... _BARIUM!!!_ bahhhhhh, hahahahaaaaaa

  • @wesmatron
    @wesmatron Před 6 lety

    Huh. Huh uh Huh. Huh. You said nipple

  • @alexandert696
    @alexandert696 Před 6 lety +2

    You sure know a lot about enemas...

  • @RN-jq1oh
    @RN-jq1oh Před 6 lety

    wet physics...XD

  • @manuelgarcia8575
    @manuelgarcia8575 Před 5 lety

    Wet physics....😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @PrsnmanGaming
    @PrsnmanGaming Před 6 lety

    Wet physics

  • @ALTDOK667
    @ALTDOK667 Před 5 lety

    Wet physics.

  • @matthewdick8540
    @matthewdick8540 Před 6 lety

    I’m your 5 th cousins

  • @alanrogelio5686
    @alanrogelio5686 Před 6 lety

    This guy took beyond the knowledge of all effects and guitars.

  • @sohamsengupta6470
    @sohamsengupta6470 Před 5 lety

    But it's a valve why does the title say 'tube'? I thought you were Scottish mate!