Santa Clara Vanguard 2022 - Battery Lot - A Full Lot Experience
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- čas přidán 24. 06. 2022
- Drum corps is back and we had the pleasure of watching Santa Clara Vanguard in their first public performances in 2 years. The staff was very kind and accommodating as we hung out with them through this experience.
This video is meant to be uncut and raw. We recommend that you watch with headphones as you sit back, relax and watch this talented drumline throwdown.
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If you want more SCV Drumline and Paul Rennick
Check out this video we made for SCV. We got the pleasure of documenting the Percussion section during their first week of the DCI season. Interviewed some members and even Paul himself.
czcams.com/video/wBRDdvf-j6E/video.html
It's crazy how drum writing has evolved even the last 10 years. The content complexity involved here is nothing shy of staggering. Kudos to these kids for pushing the envelope.
Warms my heart to hear Paul's voice again. I know from personal experience; those players completely trust him.
ik everyone probably says this but i still find it so interesting and awesome of how scv always proves that technique doesn’t always have to be considered as “one” way if that makes sense. like yes they’re hands might not “look” as most common groups that are good as well, but still they produce the sound and work as hard as them :) like always, so excited and i hope they have a great season ;)!
Genuine question, do judges in DCI look for same technique across the line? Does it add or take away points?
@@ayytism8857 It's hard to say where the line is drawn. I remember listening to the 2006 finals percussion judge tapes where a BD snare was called out for not having the beads completely in the center.
@@Jacob.Cornejo beads not being in the center will affect sound quality however a lot of common 'technique' comments are purely for visual aesthetic and dont affect sound
Their bodies are all different... trying to force everyone to look the exact same is counter productive. The technique is consistent when you pay attention to the sound and the way the sticks move and contact the head.
I kinda get it, but I don’t understand it. I’m speaking as a brass player, and we know that our faces are built differently enough that we can’t all look the same and still get the same sound.
But with drums, the hand isn’t contacting the drum, it’s the stick. For brass, a little overbite or crooked teeth means that the mouthpiece has to sit a little differently for a good embouchure. But it makes sense to me that if the sticks all hit the drums at the same velocity and angle from the same height, they’d all sound the same.
Or am I thinking about technique the wrong way here? Is there leeway in how the fingers grip the stick?
You cannot convince me that Rennick isn't the best percussion coordinator in DCI.
nobody gonna argue that
At 6:30 the tenors have no idea what's happening...
@@shadowkille8r99 1 tenor actually... apparently you had no idea what you were observing.
*Best Percussion Coordinator in DCI history* him and Sandy are legends
@@cassandragarcia5548 nah, it was definitely 3 of them😂
Seeing scv play a new book makes me indescribably happy
Paul has thousands of profound anecdotes like this locked and loaded, ready to go at any time. So much energy in this book! Can’t wait to watch this a million times this summer.
Love that Paul is mic’d up. Great video
these guys and gals play together in the off season. that's why they always start the seasons so strong
Yeah, alot of then go to UNT so quite a bit of them get a chance to play together. Of course, they not successful just because of that, the members are all very skilled, and Rennick with the other techs help bring out that skill to the max
It was this way in the 90s for both the blue team and the red team
15:48 listen to this snare lick and tell me they're not winning it AGAIN this year, unbelievable! This is only June!
Listening to that part made me smile
What in the hell is even that. They’re too good wth
This aged well 'cause three weeks later JONZ is still winning high drums.
Thank you for this QUALITY audio! Loved hearing Rennick talk to his group and the zesty SCV tuning.
This has been my favorite drum line since 2014 and I've never gotten the chance to see yall in person before due to unlucky timings in life, but this video makes me content enough even if I never get to! Good job guys! Keep it up!
Crazy how those snares are so responsive to input. Low volume buzz rolls are amazingly big, and those shots have a super unique quality to them. Opens up all kinds of compositional stuff that wouldn't normally be heard, like that crescendo buzz into the last impact of the opener.
Couple other ensembles that have some similar gear/tuning combo's. Nice sounds!
Called knowing to tune and use the right heads.
@@xkmendlt4290 Rennick also literally partnered with Dynasty and designed the snare drum model that they play on sooo
@@subbot8077 The drums sound awesome. Best Dynasty’s I’ve ever heard and I’ve heard a lot. Just wish they could use more player friendly carriers. The kids look uncomfortable, plus they take a toll on the back and shoulders.
@@xkmendlt4290 See the thing is, every time I've seen someone say the carriers are uncomfortable, some member who has actually marched them has said they are the most comfortable carrier, so I think they have it figured out.
@@linekinsey As someone with over 40 years in the activity as a marching member of a DCI championship corps, percussion judge, and instructor arranger I was just curious. Any group I’ve worked with always complained about the Dynasty carriers. I’m sure they have made design changes. I hope they don’t suffer any ill affects after their drum corps days are over. Most people don’t realize how heavy this equipment is. Also, I’m sure the endorsement deal Paul cut with Dynasty included using all their hardware. I’m just an old man now and have the utmost respect for Paul and the superior program he runs at SCV. Really continuing the legacy Fred Sanford started, and has planted his own flag. The drums are the best sounding in the activity. I wish SCV nothing but the best this season.
Wow! This good early season... looking forward to seeing how this matures throughout the season. Bravo! Well done line.
13:00 that snare lick is dangerously good
What's great about DCI this year is that every corps is going to look very young age wise. Hello new generation of DCI!!
Always the best sounding line. Played with such control and musicality.
It blows my mind how good they sound, and how their hands look
The first exercises are pure Zen. I get to see these guys in a week in Fort Collins, CO. Drums Along the Rockies. Drum Corps hasn't been around for a couple of years. Having it back is like Treasure. Pure Gold. Gratitude.
Were you there too? What did you think? We probably crossed paths in the lot!
Movement two is awesome... never heard any book like it and I really like the extended snare solo. Different than anything I've heard from Paul. I dig
In 12 years of watching Rennick lines, this is somehow the first time I’ve heard him speak
Never heard such cleanliness from such a skiwampus looking line
Love this so much!! I’m a JONZ vet from the mid 80s, and I was lucky enough to be a local, as many (most) of us were back in the day. Love everything about this, but I always giggle under my breath while referring to them as the Denton Vanguard. Not a bad thing though. They’re the best of the best!!
Hello fellow alum, I marched early 00s. It's very weird, as a north Texan, to see how much of SCV has shifted to TX with Rennick. I was one of maybe 4 members from TX when I marched and 2 others came from my same school anyway. Happy to see a little more TX talent in the corps, not gonna lie! :)
Well done ya'lls. Crush it! Looking HELLA good!!!
“Sorry for the exposure changes!”
It’s okay, MV. Don’t need camera exposure to hear triplet timing :)
Always interesting to me seeing the variety of technique on the snares. Interesting look but they sound realllllyyyy good
every impact is on another level 😵
The tenors are gonna be smokin by August, really good hands across the board. Basses are solid as always in SCV. I haven't even heard the show or horn book but if I was listening without seeing you could clearly hear this is SCV writing 100%. Reminds me of 2017's book.
That last quad round for 8s 🔥🔥like so simple but...🔥🔥🔥🔥
CW: ABSOLUTE SPOCK STANKAGE @10:48 😂
Loving what Paul's putting out this year and you can tell each and every one of them is as well. Much love JONZ fam
Clean af
Miss drumming immensely! Ty all!
That rim tool into the paradiddle diddle 😤. Is Paul the best battery composer of the last 10 years?? Scott won 2 cavies won 1 and aren’t the rest all Paul?? I mean the first couple of years when he transferred to scv we a little rough but still good. Now they’re always good, awesome tamber, blends amazing with the pit writing and it it’s always a emotion journey. In my opinion Paul Reddick (sorry if I spelled your name wrong) is the man. Simple but complex like drums should be.
worth noting Paul's also got an unparalleled growth/development system, majority of the members study with him and drum together at University of North Texas and/or come from their "feeder" corps the Troopers where the staff are mostly all his old students as well
@@AznAfroMan513 also true. I did forget that and I live in Houston. I used to live in Fort Worth. I’ve been to the campus but didn’t have time to go to the music building🙁. It’s the same as rcc to bd.
No one does it like Paul… well except Troopers but he also writes for them so I wouldn’t count it.
The Troop/UNT/SCV connection is unreal.
his best days were with phantom forsure
the tuning cuts through so well, you can hear every section clearly and simultaneously
Base line is Savage!! The overall technical level reminded me of my high school drum line. Sounds good though y'all 👍💯
Nicest thing about this since Rennick came over- he’s shown you can keep with tradition in having a cymbal line and STILL have great battery writing. He had it at Crown and those were killer Plate lines. Obviously Phantom didn’t have one, but it has been great to see him keep it at SCV
Man I miss drumline. Always love watching SCV!
amazing use of dynamics
Thx 4 The Massive Smile On My Face....SCV Crew.$
Such great writing
That center snare is a monster. Love his left hand technique.
So... Good!!!
Rennick mic'd! I’ve been wanting to hear wisdom from the lot for many decades. Subscribed and let me get some of your merch.
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Baseline! Wow
🤘
Echoes of the great Fred Sanford in talking of agreeing where the beat is. It doesn't get more Vanguard line than that!
wow.
When did they move finals week to late June? Unbelievable execution for this time of year.
They sure look and sound like a 2010 corps from Rockford 😉 noice book
Ummm CLEAN!!!
Woah tenor tuning sounds different, what notes are those?
Holy crap my OCD is kicking in on how uneven the snareline is due to the differences between the short and tall guys and gals.
lovin lots of it, nice playing, pointing out the sign language SCV seems silly but nice touch @ 12:39
Pure
What kind of weird video warping effect was at 4:14
How did you get Paul Rennick's audio so clearly? It sounds like he is mic'd up.
He sure is
will santa clara vanguard be at the july 27 DCI show
snare break broke ME
Interesting they aren’t dutting, talk about interpreting time and being locked in all as one.
What camera/field recorder are you using? Any adjustments in post? I lol’ed when you were fiddling with the exposure
Tascam dr05 a7iii 24-70 3.5-5.6 emount
Nothing in post in terms of audio.
Lots of visual adjustments tho!
Those duts from bass 2 send me chills
Jacob Wetzel is a killer Bass Drummer for real
Does anybody know why he's on two rather than four despite being taller?
@@benjaminallisonii724 bass selection isnt really about physical attributes… bass 2 is generally the bass section leader because it requires the most timing skill because they play a lot of upbeats
good job. hey, just a note -- your lead snare and the outside snare -- feet position. Hugs
Why are they wearing Long Johns?
Nice writing Paul. Nice playing drum line. I enjoyed everything except 8 on a hand, but that's my problem.
Hey John! Seeing you here took me back to the Cedar Rapids days haha
13:02 - Drums won already. Another Rennick year in the bag.
I MEAN, THE COLORS
12:58 that snare feature
The right side of the snare line is so height varied...as a short guy myself, I can't help but notice!!
Right! but what can they do? Replicate the left side with descending height from middle to outer and scatter stronger players, vets? Or say the hell with visual line symmetry, roll as is, and focus on playing clean? SCV!
Clean is forever
SHEESH.
Center snare rolling with the Anti-Tilt I see.
Did you mic Paul?
Sure did
BRING THE TILT BACK '23
Someone needs to break down the warm-ups. Would love to learn these.
9:17 the voicing between the quads and snares here is so badass
My boy sam in there on the snare line
Ayyyyyyy
@@samshoemaker7865 🐐
“I’ll whistle how’s that?” 😂😂
and then he just lets them go to the end lmao
@@skeletizer I was bout to say did he ever whistle? 😂
Can anyone explain what makes a good battery line? Like most of them sound similar to me. I'm a brass player by the way and wanting to learn more about the battery
first off, people are gonna notice if you’re dirty. a good line plays more in time than not. second, difficulty of the music, whether it’s the space used, note ramming, sticking, whatever, is gonna determine how hard it is to get clean, which is back to just being clean with harder stuff. and a more subjective thing is the musicality of the line, blending writing, not just focusing on one part of the battery at a time, and how well every individual is in tune with the rest of the line. SCV is a great example of impeccable blend, great cleanliness, and awesome musicality. if you want batteries that are super clean but deemed “less musical” by today’s standards, look at some mid 90s drum lines. more notes, but more of a solid and blunt book rather than a more dynamic and interconnected book
@@gabrielrenner5512 oof that's a lot of stuff to remember, but I'll give it a look. I'll take that into account
Timing, balance, and composition. Battery is responsible for timing, balance allows everything to be heard, writing maximizes the group's strengths.
"Good" generally is some mixture of high skill level of the players and high demand. High skill level would include things like having a precise sense of timing and being able to blend your sound with others - otherwise known as cleanliness. Examples of high demand would be the inclusion of complex rhythmic passages (often constructed from a common vocabulary of 'bite size' rhythms called "rudiments") and also mid-music changes in tempo or technique which must be approached in a uniform manner, or phrases that are made more difficult to play due to difficulty of drill or body movement, etc.
At the DCI level of drumming, most groups are sky-high in both skill and demand. The judges will pick out minor differences in demand and ability (and mistakes) and score the groups based on that, but to an average *listener,* the difference between groups is largely based on style. I'll link some videos of drumlines(from the early 2000s, which I'm most familiar with bc that's when I was drumming the most) which I think demonstrate pretty clear stylistic differences. Things to listen for: what sorts of rhythms and rhythmic relationships are common, or recur a lot? Are there a lot of complex rhythms involving hits with grace notes before them ("flams") or not? When there are, are they incorporated throughout the piece or only in certain places? What kind of technique do the players use (a lot of wrist turn, a lot of arm, something in between)? How is phrasing split up between subsections - or is it NOT split up, and rather there are a lot of unison parts? Does the tempo and 'feel' seem to push and pull with the 'vibe' of the playing, or does it feel more regimented or mechanical? Does the drumline seem to be playing the melody of the music *in addition to* the horns, or functioning more like a backing track, kind of like the role a drum set has within a jazz group? (Granted this one will be hard to tell in the videos I linked, as they are only of the drumlines.) Etc.
The Cadets 2005: czcams.com/video/eEDTblH-4ro/video.html
Phantom Regiment 2007: czcams.com/video/wnIFoCk-KSc/video.html
Blue Devils 2003: czcams.com/video/pWW8_9eh3z0/video.html
Santa Clara Vanguard 2004: czcams.com/video/lQ-6Xib75Fs/video.html
Cavaliers 2000: czcams.com/video/tGdZfYskeH4/video.html
@@TheMokeleMbembe thank you! I'll look into these videos
I searched Phantom Regiment 2022 and this video showed up.....
is that leonardo dicaprio on snare
8:24 book
Am I watching Phantom Regiment 2010? Oh, wait...
I didn’t know channing tatum played tenors.
The tenor around at 1:23. Uhhhhhhhhhh
Does Dynasty not let you guys use different carriers? Dynasty carriers are the most uncomfortable ones on the market. The snares and tenors just look uncomfortable with them. The top drum line in the country should have the best most comfortable carriers available. 😎
5:46
3:51
This line is, again, headed for greatness... but I can't help but wonder sometimes if Rennick purposely sets some of his snares at negative angles (opposite the traditional snare drum tilt). Center snare is noticeably tilted to his left. Also it still bother me how poorly adjusted so many performer's harnesses are (this isn't unique to Vanguard). There shouldn't be that much space under the shoulder supports, it results in less drum control and concentrates the weight of the instrument at a smaller point on the back, rather than spreading out the weight.
I think that is a function of the T shaped harnesses the old Ludwig ones had the same issue.
@@keithbarnes9419 We had t-shaped harnesses at CapReg and Glassmen and Matrix and I always managed to bend them to closely fit my body... I guess it's just not a priority for some. But I think it makes a huge difference for the performers when moving
This isnt their actual uniforms right
That’s what I would like to know… cuz it looks super bland and cheap. Hoping I’m right when assuming its a place holder outfit.
@@beaumartin366 what you see is what you get. they look nice from up high honestly
There’s a tunic that goes over the shirts you see here, I think
Looking like they’re members of a sike ward 😂😂
@@RickCogley yup I noticed it later. Thanks for pointing it out
#quadpimps
MR DISNEY
10:42
did eliana age out?
Yup
Damn
Ive noticed the longer he stays with a corps he tends to recycle more book each year. for good reason i suppose with the amount he has to write each year
is that dawson or am i trippin
dawson from coats/crown? if yes you are trippin haha
@@strykemusic idk third snare from the cameras left kinda looks like him, or cameron with hair idk
@@wendysfriesready296 haha cameron aged out in '21 :( and Dawson aged out for '20
That's Ezekiel! he marched Troopers in '21
@@strykemusic o dope he jus kinda looks like them he looks rly good tho
What the hell is he doing in long sleeves in summer weather like this 💀💀
This is in California mate, it’s like 80 degrees
Cymbal line used to all shave their heads or dye their hair…. Guess that tradition died
Book is far superior to the other team
SCV battery is 100 times better than blue devils this year
I’m wondering how Bluecoats will do this year. Rarick’s writing (from Battery to Front Ensemble) can absolutely rival the Rennicks.
I love both, but the Rennicks have something special about their Books that are worth remembering.
Robots...
If you close your eyes and listen, it’s the opposite
You couldn’t put the snare drums in a better order? The drum heights are super wonky on the right side
Im sure they consider a lot more than the heights when placing them in that order
@@MarchingVlogs still looks wonky
Who cares? Judges don't seem to
The fact that you're reaching this far to pick them apart just shows how good they are
No one would care hon3stly