Sardonicast 19: Venom, Pink Floyd: The Wall
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- čas přidán 27. 06. 2024
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro
01:26 - Venom
44:24 - Pink Floyd: The Wall (SPOILERS)
1:14:30 - Q&A
Adum's recommendation for next episode is The Piano Teacher (2001) - Zábava
Alex: That venom kiss just seemed kind of pandering.
Adum: Pandering to what?
Ralph: *starts sweating intensly*
Is Ralph a naughty boy or what's the catch?
I feel like Ralph wanted to say "internet weirdos" then remembered he was talking to one.
Ralph is a everything-ist
It happens in a comic book. It was great
Haaa, i get it cuz Ralph is gay!
Why would I listen to this when I can watch Nostalgia Critic's masterpiece of a review on Pink Floyd's The Wall?
I'm so afraid for Nostalgia Critic's Tommy review...
@J A I’m deeply afraid for Nostalgia Critic’s Yellow Submarine review (or any review of any of The Beatles’ films from him).
@@fpshound9215 To make a joke?
@@fpshound9215 r/wooosh
Have you lost your hearing?
VENOM, GONNA GO GETTEM. VENOM.
KNOCK KNOCK let the DEVIL IN
That moment when Black and Yellow aged beter than Eminem
@@deltoroperdedor3166 wiz khalifa > eminem tbh
@@ashesshards4626 I'll take your word for that since I'm not really a fan of any rapper. But my point still stands
VenomvenomvEnom
Lol who’s here after the end credits scene to Venom Let There Be Carnage.
Alex owes Ralph some money 😂
Alex v. Ralph: Dawn of VENOMMM
Pink Floyd The Wall gets better every time, I listen to the entire album then watch the film again and I can't decide which of them I love more.
Howesenberg it’s the film for me. All the way.
I feel honestly both Benefits from the Movie and Album cause they both compliment each other
DOC MaRK DREW BILLY QuICK absolutely. But that doesn’t mean that there isn’t one that’s better than the other to me.
It is honestly one of the textbook examples of how to do a adaptation extreamly well. Not only does it respect the source material well, but it actually compliments and adds to it.
Blart Side of the Mall is a new experience
15:12 *they released the drone*
Charles Stiles was the propmaster for Venom, confirmed
We don't see Venom eat people. What's he eating then? He's a Mystery Diner.
When that happened in the movie I immediately started thinking about how Ralph would react to that
only Ralph-fans and Charles styles will understand
“WHAT ARE YOU?!?!”
“My name’s Charles Stiles, I’m with a company called Mystery Diners”
We all thought Ralph was crazy back then
Mad Max Fury Road has some really spectacular practical effects
Hey Jamie!
@@jessesaranow7724 huh? Is this a reference to something?
JARcast, Alex's podcast
We have located the master of reload animations
Funny enough my dad helped produce Pink Floyds The Wall. Went on tour with them and everything.
Noice, mine worked on a Waters tour (In the Flesh) during the late 90s / early 2000s and it's indeed one hell of an experience.
My family's friends with a retired member of Stretch Armstrong, it's so weird because they went to their concerts all the time like 20 years ago, but it was way before we knew him
Damn, I kinda wish you saved that ‘anime question’ for when Chris Stuckmann was on next week.
He’s not an expert, mind you, but he’s much more versed in terms of that medium.
CharCharZilla I mean I would definitely call him an expert, he wrote an entire book on the subject
someguy ihate It’s called The Shows and Movies that changed the world of Japanese Animation and is extremely in depth. If writing a book that detailed doesn’t make you an expert I don’t know what does
Oh interesting. I didn't know that he wrote a book about anime/animation, that's pretty cool. He seemed more like a more casual fan.
All the MORE reason he should've been here for THAT question haha. Oh well, I guess.
Hes not very well versed to begin with. I think they need someone who knows stuff on here
@@eggplantstevens43 he's more well-versed than these guys, further than that would be cringe territory, like Digibro
QUESTION TIMESTAMPS
1:14:49 - Best Make Up/Practical Effects?
1:19:34 - Movies That Would Be Better As R-rated?
1:24:50 - Favorite TV Theme Song?
1:28:34 - Thoughts On Anime
1:35:26 - The Best Story In A Video Game?
Can you do that for everything, please?
Ralph's Lock of the Decade
Ralph: Tom Hardy was good.
Alex: ... I thought he sucked.
Ralph: Ok *sounds of Ralph dying*
they dont get it cause their not in america. people here just have mental problems its very realistic. none of us can afford psych care lol
@@balabanasireti he loves Tom Hardy though, so I don't think it's bias...
It's amazing how i almost always agree with Ralph but rarely agree with Adam and Alex but they're all really entertaining
@@flamingoseatshrimps1361 your profile pic is rly familiar who is that
@@alphalax7747 If you’re still wondering four months later, it’s Anya Taylor Joy in “Last Night in Soho.”
oh my, that Adum and Ralph fan art was pretty good
Needed more dog dick
Bojack Horseman has a great intro and it’s a Netflix show
I'm pretty fond of the stranger things opening too. Daredevil is alright also.
Ozark, Castlevania, Love Death and Robots
BoJack Horseman is easily my favorite TV intro. I mean, musically, it's pretty fucking good, but the visuals are soooo perfect, especially season 4, 5 and 6
Time stamps for mobile users:
0:00 Intro
1:26 Venom
44:24 Pink Floyd: The Wall (SPOILERS)
1:14:30 Q&A
They have time stamps in the description.
@@JohnyG29 he said for mobile users. on mobile, timestamps in descriptions dont work
@@-..-_-..- They do on my phone, which is what I am typing this from.
I use an iOS phone so I can't click the timestamps
@@luketuke02 oh right, you need an android old chap 😁
They couldn’t have known. What came for all of us. From the Wall, came Doug. And we all fell.
I kinda thought this would be about that till I checked the date
Fun fact: The Wall was originally intended to be a multimedia experience, with Waters wanting a film, record, and live tour with unique aspects. The tour was played in much smaller arenas, and had giant puppets and a crew assembling a wall of cardboard bricks during the show that Waters smashed into the crowd with a hammer before playing the final track "Outside the Wall". The album is unique in that it can be cycled from back to front, ending with "isn't this where-" and beginning with "-we came in?". The film has it's unique songs and multilayered visual storytelling. This whole experience makes it Pink Floyd's magnum opus IMHO.
Yeah but Tom Hardy stars in the film venom
Get Georg Rockall-Schmidt as a guest for the podcast
And make him bring the lava lamp
Yes please!!!
Yes get Georg on
Thing is Venom is a total badass in the comics, he has backstory and motivation for being evil he is a actual character in the comics. But that’s all kinda tied in with Spider-Man so the second they said “no Spider-Man” in the trailer I knew they would screw it up
I don't know, he was kinda lame and goofy in the comics.
Unless you're talking about the Ultimate version.
He's quite the petty bitch towards Spiderman, *that's a no from me.*
Yea venoms always been a tad goofy but he's always done what he wants. He's only a villian more towards spidey.
Also the fact that Tom Holland vs Tom Hardy, agewise, makes the Eddie Brock/Peter Parker dynamic/duality kinda...not existing..
That is because Symbiote was first in spiderman before it went to eddie brock.
39:22 Alex, Adam looks like you owe Ralph some Mula.
Ralph won the bet! 😁
*goosebumps theme plays..*
*BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK*
Viewer bewarrrreeee you’re innn for a scaaarrrreeee
R.L. Stine's freakin' tax papers are spooky. I bet the R.L. stands for ReaLly spooky.
As I read it I could hear that piano and the dog lol.
Pretty sure Adum’s favorite Goosebumps episode is “My Hairiest Adventure”.
Get it? Because furries?
I clapped!
Ayyyyyyyy!
Wait, is that the one with the kid who turns into a dog?
@@pizzatime1978 My merkins. Yes.
Can't a guy get some privacy?
I literally just did a project for school on the The Wall last week,
But I still can't listen to the spoiler discussion because I didn't watch it
Wot
Wot
Wot
Wot?
Wot's...uh, the big deal?
Got some bad news for Alex with that Venom bet
I came here to listen to you guys talk about The Wall due to it being one of my favorites, and I sat through 40 minutes of Venom discussion.
10/10 Best Episode so far
There are timestamps in the description.
We're all just bricks in the wall.
Is that SPEEDWAGON!?
I see you everywhere but you have a Jojo icon so its acceptable
Shine like a kuraizy diamondo
This makes me comfortably numb.
Pfft I shine like a diamond, Floyd reference
Btw, Scarfe worked as a production designer on Disney's Hercules.
38:27-42:12 After hearing what's going on with the Spider-Man stuff & the possible multiverse, I'm still laughing at Alex's confidence in thinking there's no way they'd put the idea of having the MCU Spidey with Tom Hardy's Venom in a movie together.
SPOILERS: GUYS! RALPH WON THE BET!!!
Also: I made a highlight reel on this discussion from this episode (czcams.com/video/2QuHgnPE0DM/video.html).
There you go
It barely counts but it happened
*Time to pay up, Adam*
Why spend 40 mins talking about *VENOMMMM* ?? You gave it more attention than the people who made the movie
Lol
Venommmmmmmmm, alright dooooood
Venom was good
There were 40 mins that they cut out of the movie as well.
By this logic most of these guys content would be a waste of time.
The wall is one of my favourite films ever
*Favorite
Get it right redcoat
Drew Eckhart only dirty americans spell it that way,
Same
I’m American and I honesty prefer the British spelling of it, and of most differently spelled words. The “u” makes it look cooler.
FiveStarWreck then you are no American, sir. Those Brits got nae nae’d
I went to see venom to prove how bad it was to friends
Also "my leg was broke now it's not" the people who wrote Jumanji 2 and a fifty shades of grey film wrote it
I thought that was unironically the funniest line in the movie, because it was grounded and not trying too hard.
For me it was one of the funniest ironic lines
That was the funniest part of the movie
The Wall is most definitely a masterpiece. It's a shame that the makers have all but disowned it. I first saw it when I was thirteen, and it brought the album's story to life. It was the movie that taught me how to appreciate movies as art. With no dialog, I was forced to find meaning in the visuals. I have friends that think the film is nonsensical, and trippy for the sake of trippy, but I could see a clear story shining through, and fell in love. IHE got a few facts mixed up. Syd Barrett went crazy in the early years of the band, and was replaced while they were recording their second album. He became a recluse, and the band hadn't seen him for years. They were in the studio recording WISH YOU WERE HERE, and Syd showed up, out of the blue. The band couldn't recognize him, as he was very overweight, bald, and had removed his eyebrows. They tried to hang withhim, and realized his illnesses now very severe. They were so shook up, knowing that Syd started the band, and their success was because of him, and now he was just this sad hermit. The war stuff is because Roger Water's father was killed in Ansio, during WWII, when Roger was a kid. These factors contributed to the creation of the album. Roger began to feel alienated from his fans, and had the idea of building a giant wall on stage, between himself and the audience. The album was written first, and then he ideas were incorporated into an elaborate stage show, building the wall on stage, that would be exploded at the conclusion. These ideas were further fleshed out to create the film, but there is a clear evolution of ideas from album to film. This movie is a gem, and it needs to be shared, so it's not forgotten.
The fanart at 0:02 is the best.
Gitanjalee Chatterjee which one? The second or third?
@@saliv88 The third one.
hot
Lmao I have to agree Alex suitably confused.
I still can’t believe I paid 13.50 plus taxes to see Tom Hardy act like a crackhead in front of a green screen for 2 hours
Absolutely barbaric, only 13.50.
But Tom hardy stars in the film venom
And it was glorious
I will always go to George Romero’s Day of the Dead as an example of amazing practical effects and makeup. The jawless zombie in the opening scene is impressive on its own, but pretty much all of Tom Savini’s work in that film is some if the best he’s ever done.
Couldn't agree more. Rhodes being ripped in half will always be a high point in practical effects history imo.
I’m late as hell but exactly my first thought.
Every time I watch The Wall all the way through, and get to “Bring the Boys Back Home”, I get emotionally overwhelmed. Following that, “Comfortably Numb” has one of the best guitar solos in rock history.
You guys should check out The Who's Tommy. It's similar to The Wall in some ways (such as it being based on an album, and whatnot) but I love that movie almost as much as The Wall. It has a great backstory, and it was recently re-released on Blu-ray steel book.
Where as I think the Wall album and movie are really good, I think Tommy (album) is amazing and a lot better than the film.
I can't believe the bet has come to fruition. Money will actually be exchanged on Venom being added to the MCU after all this time.
Time Stamps for Mobile Users
Intro 00:00
Venom 1:26
Pink Floyd: the Wall 44:24
Q&A 1:14:30
Damn it, Ralph! Get outta here! Go on! Get!
Carlos Trancoso “It’s got a death curse!”
I want them to make the R rated version with the deleted scenes Tom Hardy was talking about.
You guys should talk about Bad Times at The El Royal
Burgers On The BBQ spirits
I saw both the Venom film and a Pink Floyd tribute band just last week, so the timing of this podcast is quite surreal for me. Very cool
The one thing that upsets me about The Wall movie is they removed my favorite song; Hey You. It's in the DVD extra features.
Pink Floyd: Live at Pompeii is great too, they recorded around the time they were working on Dark Side. It's not live in the sense that there is a crowd but it's just them playing alone in the ruins with cool visuals and some short "interviews" between some of the songs.
Cowboy Bebop and Paranoia Agent are perfect anime for people who are art-house movie buffs and don't generally like anime. Both are only one season long and have high quality animation and writing.
Paranoia Agent was something else
Is There a music of pink Floyd in cowboy bebop " on the run"
There's tones of anime thats like that but people don't realize since almost everything that comes out these days is weird creepy otaku shite
I just saw venom today, this was a gift, thank you adam, ralph and Alex.
I'm so glad Adam brought up Upgrade! I was thinking that exact thing, and that actor (Logan Marshall-Green) even looks like Tom Hardy
Roger waters and syd Barrett’s dads both died that’s why they were so connected at a young age and Syd was replaced by David Gilmour
Spiderman vs. Venom in 2020 confirmed
it just occured to me that this episode was recorded on my birthday. nice.
Just found this golden podcast.
I think Ralph would really love One Punch Man! It does something different with the whole superhero-thing and doesn't just rely on it's beautiful animation.
Yeah, One Punch Man is great. Bill Burr recommended it and he is the last person I imagine to watch any anime.
What's really funny is that I have a dream where Ralph talks how satisfied OPM really was, then I woke up & realized it wasn't real.
I went to see Venom yesterday; I was less disappointed than I expected to. Trashy still, but I was going with such low expectancy that I could hardly be badly surprised.
It was good
@@wanderingoryx3710 nah, it was class 5 fucking stinker!
@@kallebaah0 better than captain marvel
@@wanderingoryx3710 sure. Atleast I could actually finish Venom
The sequel is coming out this year. Time for them to pay up.
The Wall is a piece of art tbh. I don't know how but it was one of the few movies that actually made me cry, and it wasn't anything about Pink directly, it was the scenes showing ww2 which together with music made the atmosphere just so incredibly sad and tragic. Also, the trial scene? masterpiece. I've seen it so so so many times.
I think Adam and Alex would love the anime Monster. Fantastic psychological thriller and the dub is just as good as the sub. Not really an anime in terms of tropes and general art style and character designs. Well paced and well structured.
interesting. I'll look it up.
As a side note, I'm glad you mentioned that the dub was good. I find that, as voice acting has been taken more seriously and some big names have developed, that anime dubbing has gotten much better as a whole.
Sub purists piss me right off. "Oh yeah, I'm sure the actors are _so much better_ when they're high-pitch screaming in a language you can't understand." Subs (of those I've seen, mind you) are nearly always extremely overacted, and character voices seem to never match personalities or scene tones very well at all. Meanwhile, in the dubs, you get subtlety and impression, and you don't have to look away from the scene to "hear" the dialogue. For English viewers, it is the full experience.
It's definitely an anime in terms of art style and themes, just not mainstream 2000s anime. and it's great.
I'm on the process of reading 20th Century Boys which is a manga written and drawn by the same guy who created Monster ( can't remember it's name right now ) and god damn I fucking love it so much. I need to watch Monster though.
Monster is fantastic.
As soon as Alex asked the first question, I knew someone was gonna say The Thing.
My favorite podcast is back baby!❤
If anyone has issue finding Pink Floyd The Wall The Movie, it's readily available on Wal-Mart.com, of all places.
When I get out, there's gonna be GAYS EVERYWHERE
I can't say Venom is good. It is pretty bad, but it was hishilarious and very entertaining.
I and half a dozen others were laughing in the cinema
Its a good movie
@@wanderingoryx3710 its so bad its good
@@ighr7596 I think it's like Aquaman where it embraces its stupidity and becomes entertaining because of it
Just when I thought I was done cleaning, I check CZcams and see y'all updated. Time to vacume
Thank you for discussing the wall :)
Venom is like a turd in the wind, because it really stinks but the wind will make that stink vanish very soon.
Based on the box office, this stink isn't going to go away any time soon.
Or it'll blow back in your face and make it even worse.
I mean, that's a matter of perspective, if you're downwind you smell it for a while.
I’m analyzing this metaphor of fart wind too much.
Venom was good. ihe was in hunt for freeman.
loved that venom scene where the evil guy said "get out of here you bleed all over my labcoat" or something to the security guy.
and there was no blood anywhere. and noone had a labcoat on.
quality movie
I love everytime Alex mentions Jim and i know exactly what he means. It makes me feel so special
Wolfs rain, man I haven’t seen that in ages, I loved that when I was like 12-13 and cried every time I watched the end with Tsume and the kid
I'd REALLY like to know which Metal Gear games specifically that Ralph and Alex played when they were talking about Kojima, cuz they're right in the sense of his newer games having nonsensical stories, but the original 3 Metal Gear solid titles and guns of the patriots are some of my favorite stories in gaming ever
Pink Floyd is such an amazing band. Their music is truly magical.
1:04:20 I've sent Criterion a title suggestion email for The Wall before. Hopefully there will be a blu ray of this movie soon!
58:06 the album was actually made, originally, to be a stage production. They created a big live show for "The Wall" and the film was actually an attempt to adapt the stage play.
The Fly and most of David Cronenberg's movies have great practical effects
Asking the question, "Do you like Anime?", is a really weird way to phrase that question. It's like asking, "Do you like american cartoons?", or, "Do you like American movies?". You're basically asking if a person likes a vast and variable form of art that is produced in a country, which is just too vague to answer correctly. If I only see three american tv shows that are bad, I can't make the claim, "I don't like american tv", since I'd have such a limited scope of reference. Not criticizing their answer or the podcast, just thought it was important to distinguish.
The story of Syd shaving his head and eyebrows is from the sessions of Wish You Were Here in 1974/75. Syd got booted from the band in 1968, and he became reclusive in the early 70s, so nobody really heard from him or saw him until the sessions. He showed up and nobody recognized him. He had put on a lot of weight, and as Alex said, he had a shaved head. I highly recommend reading more about Syd Barrett, as he was a brilliant songwriter and guitarist who led an incredibly interesting life.
I recommend Miami Connection for a future discussion!
I like how their tone of voice changes when they talk about something they hate lmao
Honestly Venom seems like it was ghostwritten by Michael Bay. Humour is right up his aisle
As someone who actually kinda liked it (as a dumb superhero movie, like what Ralph basically said)....I 100% agree with this, and that would explain the high box office numbers and decent-above average positive audience reception...
“Write up his isle”
@@calsepher is this reply from an alternate dimension in which shopping aisles have been replaced by entire corporate islands
Except he's never been funny.
TheClassyKarp
Yes.
I’m suprised IHE didn’t mention american werewolf in London
When you guys were asking if there were any similar films, one that's fairly close in format is The Who's 'Tommy'.
I don't think suicide squad as a concept is destined to fail, because the animated films are pretty good
Mostly because they understand that these characters are fundamentally not good people, and their motivation is survival and nothing else
The problem with suicide squad and venom is that they didn't write it as a villain film, they wrote it as a superhero film
1:27:31 I think Bojack Horseman has a pretty great intro
I’ve seen The Wall sooo many times it’s so good
i fucking love the wall (and pink floyd). i'm so glad to finally hear youtubers i watch talk about it. pink floyd also made a concert documentary piece called 'live at pompeii' a number of years earlier that i highly suggest if you really enjoy their music. the 1974 release of the film has behind-the-scenes studio work on dark side of the moon and interviews of the band at abbey road studios. it's got lots of commentary on their writing and thought process, but it feels less like a documentary than it does a long, psychedelic musical number.
I love Alex’s musical taste
Venom could have been incredibly fresh and interesting but they took the easy way out for a cash grab
Truls Tykesson I don’t read comics but I’ve heard that venoms children are much more evil and powerful than him and venom/Eddie have to clean up the mess of the younger parasites. Which imo could’ve been venoms character arc in this movie and would’ve been interesting
This ain’t no easy grab, they got T
SONY AINT GOT NO CASH GRAB THEY GOT V
There are many versions of Venom. This movie was good, he wants Earth for himself
How is it a cash grab. lol
I just realized Sardonicast is like a book club...if that book club were a podcast...and were more of a movie club.
Great TV openings, The A-Team and Mission Impossible!
Legal weed will increase the viewing experience of many movies. God bless canada.
Spaghetti Midget Yeah people will just take whatever garbage shit movie is fed to them because weed lol.
For me it makes it much harder to focus on movies.
I think that's the point
@@ergoth154 That's the point. Everything seems better while high.
As I currently live in a state where weed is totally legal, I can verify it does make the movie viewing experience much better.
The Wall is my favorite film ever
There's a short film by The National called I Am Easy To Find that's really fucking good as well. It's not nearly as deep or symbolic as The Wall, but I found it deeply personal and emotional and absolutely love it.
Best trio of all time
finally a good review of the wall from youtube critics
"Venom wasn't that bad. I would have sex with Tom Hardy." Ralphthemoviemaker
I can't wait for the Piano Teacher episode
The Wall is one of those movies my mom showed me when I was really young and I remember her saying, “me and my friends used to go to Midnight screenings of this all the time” and that is what solidified this film as a great piece of art to me, the fact that they would only play it at Midnight for some reason. Definitely recommend