Arlo, Nathaniel Bandy and AntDude Talk About Super Mario Bros. Wonder for One Hour
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Three guys talk about Super Mario Bros. Wonder for like an hour. That's what you're gettin' here.
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I greatly miss Arlocast. Always glad to see these “kinda-sorta” one-offs
Same. I really hope Arlocast comes back at some point. Hopefully once “switch 2” starts being revealed, Arlo will feel more of an urge to do it 😅😅
Duuuude, its like the old Arlocast days!
We need Arlocast back
Arlocast was very pleasing to have in the background fr
@@saygan2475 i remember listening to the one with scott the woz while i showered
@adualaispuro I remember, I was house sitting for a friend of mine and listened to that episode while making myself dinner and pouring myself a cup of wine. 😅
man... I liked it a lot! but my man was a bit overburdened and needed to cut down.
As someone who always delves into 80-hour lore-heavy games, Mario Wonder reminded me that all I need in a game is to have a good time
As someone who also has a Persona-like profile picture, I agree.
After Xenoblade Chronicles 3 and The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom, two amazing time sinkers, I found Super Mario Bros. Wonder a lovely, fun time!
As someone who’s taking a break from Genshin, I agree! But chances are that Arlo won’t agree.
Yep. It's all I ever wanted. Just play the game and have fun.
then there's Kirby with its simple fun and incredibly deep lore
It sounds like the bosses should have taken inspiration from Yoshis Island. Each boss on that game is a regular enemy that gets modified by Kamek to become a boss. Basically the same as a wonder flower actually. Would have been amazing here!
I died at the boss segment lol “They’re terrrrrrrible”😂😂
Ohhhhh man, hearing the Arlocast theme just gave me a serotonin boost that’s gonna last me at least the rest of the week
I adore the ghost mechanic, standees, and online in general. I can’t tell you how many times random people have literally waited for me during a level so that they could revive me when I was struggling. And I would just think, wow, this is so cool, and this random person is SO kind! Just warms your heart and makes you smile.
Or when someone leaves you an item bubble or has placed a standee in an absolutely clutch location?? Incredible. Love love love.
Arlo, you gotta try online.
The captain toad segments remind me of the paintings in odyssey. They sometimes warp you to an isolated part of a world you haven’t been to yet and they give you a little sneak peek
I loved those!
I love Super Daisy Wonder, especially how there were no false walls that littered the entirety of the "New Soup" series of games.
There aren't false walls in Wonder?
I would honestly like a few, like in Super Mario World.
@@slightlysaltysam7411there are they just work a bit differently
YAY ARLOCAST IS BACK!! Would love to get more of this discussion-driven Arlocasts disguised as videosss
One really neat detail I haven't seen mencioned is how the background of the same world, even if similar, actually reflect where the level is located on the world map. Like two levels in the desert could have the same background, but the position of the castle chages depending where they are
To be fair, in previous Mario games Yoshi would either sit still when unmounted and not take damage from enemies, or get hit while you ride him making him run around in a panic. Both of those aren’t getting damaged and getting weaker, so Yoshi being baby mode like that when fully playable is consistent and does add multiple baby mode characters than just Nabbit if you’re playing with multiple kids
You know a video is good when you watch an hour and it feels like 10 minutes
Love these types of discussion videos. Downloading rn to listen at work tomorrow. Thanks Arlo
Finally! I needed an hour long video to listen to while I draw or sleep! Your Sonic videos can only do so much. Also, any video with Nathaniel Bandy is an A+ for me.
this is an amazing non-arlocast discussion between friends, i really resonated with basically everything you said about this game.
something very strange i noticed was like this game is almost like a 2D platformer version of a warioware game, where any time you grab a wonder flower you just need to figure out wtf is going on and react to it before you die.
it's got the same surreal-ness as the first NSMB game on your very first playthrough, where you're a 12 year old and you get the mega mushroom and rampage through the stage destroying everything, it's like the developers put in such an immense amount of labor implementing different mechanics so you can get an experience like 12yo you's first mega mushroom once per stage, which is just an incredible feat.
i have never been a fan of the mario formula of like going to different stages and running right, but this is the first 2D mario since either SMB or SMB2-J that has actually held my attention, gone the whole 100% savefile without ever feeling like a slog, and just been a game that i would like to play through multiple times. truly excellent work to the development team on this one, i am not a 2D mario fan but i greatly appreciate and am so grateful for the amount of love and labor that you put into this game.
i adore this new direction for nintendo, where they're willing to give projects like wonder and tears of the kingdom the time and labor that they need in order to be good games, they're not rushing it out the door because there's an anime and trading card game contingent on them meeting a deadline (cougn gamefreak), or hyping everyone up for a hard release deadline months before they have an accurate picture of when the game will be complete and ready to ship (cough cyberpunk, no man's sky, multiversus)
honestly, if there is anything to be learned from the truly astounding commercial success of games like mario wonder, tears of the kingdom, baldur's gate 3, elden ring, etc.
it's that development teams don't need to rush it out the door or meet some self-imposed release deadline to make a profit.
i really really hope that triple-A development studios take notes from the success of these games, as well as more laborious indie games like silksong or deltarune, when those come out, that in consumers' eyes (unless you're not gonna live six months) it is infinitely preferable for a game to have a six month delay and release in a completed state than for you to just push whatever garbage you've got out the door right now and then fix it with patches as you slowly lose trust and deal with that PR nightmare.
I HAVE ENOUGH GAMES TO PLAY, i don't NEED silksong right now, i can wait, and I'm happy to wait, because i trust team cherry and know that the wait time just means they're making the game better.
also, as a side note, it is 1000x easier to optimize a game's performance BEFORE everything gets stamped onto 10 million cartridges.
we are never going to have a pokemon scarlet and violet that runs well on the nintendo switch, because that's just a fundamental limitation of what the patches can do, given the state of the base game, code, and 99% of the assets existing on unchangeable media!
unless you're gonna let us write to cartridges (approximately zero chance of that happening due to nintendo's endless battle against piracy), this will always be the case!
please, major game studios, take notes, hire the staff required to make something good, give your developers the time they need to finish what they're working on so you can release it in a state that they're comfortable with. it's not a lot to ask for, literally just delay the game, i promise we can wait, the PR is way better with a game that got delayed because it's not ready than a game that released in an unfinished state.
please, please, if you give your games the time and attention they deserve, hire enough labor, and push back the release until the game is actually finished, it will be very good PR, and i will be your loyal customer forever.
and if you fail to do this, if you release an unfinished mess, you've lost my good graces, you'll stay in my doghouse until you win me back.
i am never going to buy any games from CD projekt red (cyberpunk) or hello games (no man's sky), and even as a lifelong pokemon fan and fairly serious about competitve pokemon, i am sincerely planning on waiting for reviews on the next mainline pokemon game to see if it's actually good before buying it, instead of preordering like i usually do, i just don't want to play half-finished games anymore when there's so many other titles out there to play.
hell, you know you can export the optimization concurrently with the development if you really need to! that's always a thing you can do, and it'll cost like 1/10 of the increased sales you'll get from all the good reviews. the only downside is the risk of leaks, but now that dev studio is incentivized, if they ever want your business again, to protect the crap out of it.
thanks for reading my long rambling mess of a comment!
the key takeaway is that mario wonder is the best 2D mario game of all time, and game studios please hire more staff, push back release, give your games the time and labor they need to actually be good, your IP deserves so much better than the way your board of directors are treating it, depriving it of investment and sucking it dry like a vampire.
anyway, thanks for reading this, like the comment if you agree with what i said (like i need to tell you that), and have a nice rest of your day.
go play super mario RPG, that remake is way better than what they did with link's awakening, and if you weren't alive for the SNES or you've just never played that game before, it's worth the money.
it's a very good game, kinda like superstar saga crossed with final fantasy, and if you don't have $60, then go emulate the SNES one.
it's good, but there's tons of QoL improvements and a few new things in the switch one... oh god, i'm rambling again, gotta go, kids to feed, i left the oven on, the casserole is burned, my house is now engulfed in flames, I've lost everything meaningful to me, see you around
The collaboration we never knew we needed
we always knew we needed this
@@AK_804 This kind of thing would be regular if Arlocast survived
The online play is the best part of the game. Who knew i needed a mario strand game.
This being recommended to me got me so excited! Would love more videos like these. Even if you don't plan on doing arlocast again
Thanks to whoever recorded the different game-play clips which illustrated all the things Arlo and the guys talked about. Good job!
Yes! Yet another Arlo video to add to my collection of videos i listen to at while at work/driving/falling asleep/gaming.
Me in a nutshell
I think that the interactions between player characters was the best part about the New Super Mario Bros games. It was a lot of fun to be able to throw your friends off of a platform or jump on their heads at just the worst time. It was chaotic and I loved it.
Yay, Arlocast is back!! So glad to see one of these!
I found out about Arlocast a little after Arlo stopped doing them, so super stoked to see one right out of the oven. ^^
This game was such a good time. I 100% it for the first time and aside from a few cryptic moments(Having to return to that short rescue level in the mines was nonsense) the fun was nonstop.
On thing I appreciate about the map design in this game is how you play the water world in small chunks between the other worlds. I haven't seen anyone mention it but I appreciated it. I'm not one of those people that straight up hates water levels but the water worlds in the New Soups always felt like such a slog, even to me. I didn't even notice Wonder had a water world until I was almost finished with the game.
Arlocast was a great gym buddy, and it’s a damn shame the algo beats it into obscurity. More like this pls!!
I think my only issue with the game was the fact that it was surprisingly easy throughout the whole game compared to past 2D Mario's. Even the levels the developers themselves rated as "five stars" I found fairly easy. Oh and I was a little sad there weren't more power ups present.
But other than that I loved everything else about the game.
Granted, alot of Mario games are easy. Even the retro games or 3D games are easy. Like is there any Mario game that's difficult?
@@jaretco6423 Not this easy. Or certainly had a better difficulty curve throughout the game...in mario bros wonder even the final special world levels are often very easy. I find almost every other 2d and 3d mario harder then this...and I was rusty while playing this.
@slenderfoxx3797 Meh. Not all Mario games are exactly hard either. So I don't get why Wonder gets to be the only one that gets critique for being easy when most Mario games are. Even if it is easier, it's not really an big issue. Just as long the quality of the game is well crafted and fun, than that's all it matter.
This is an awesome collab. Glad you guys did it!
I needed a video like this. Thank you. Just 3 interesting dudes chatting about an awesome game.
oh man can’t wait to watch this! Thanks arlo! Love hearing u and the pals talk about stuff 💙💙💙
the yoshis having different pitches of voice may or may not be a reference to yoshi's story where every yoshi has different voice pitches
Super Mario Bros Wonder, is one of my favorite games of all time. And I am so happy to be saying that. When the game was rumored, I wasn’t even that crazy excited for it. And now I absolutely love the game.
I miss Arlocast so much, thanks for the video!
i love the invisibility and the bouncing badge, so fun to replay levels with that added challenge and silliness
I think Mario Wonder is the perfect encapsulation of why I fell in love with Nintendo.
Before, my favorite game of all time was Wii Sports Resort. It's simple but fun gameplay, its variety of content, it's charming locations and music, and all the cool secrets i admittedly never found as a kid made it my go-to video game. It's the type of game where I spent a considerable amount of time just sitting on the menus.
In a weird way, Mario Wonder feels like the modern version of that. It's already fun enough when you're actually treating it like a game, but it also gives you the tools to find your own enjoyment in it.
Plus, as a Mario fan, it feels like it took inspiration from a bunch of different games. Mario 3D World's overworld exploration, the structure of finding all the Royal seeds feels very Paper Mario-esq, the Wonder transformations give me big Yoshi's Island/ Mario Odyssey vibes, some of the bonus levels feel straight out of Mario Maker, and etc.
Despite the admittedly dissapointing bosses, I consider this game a masterpiece. And I don't see this changing for me anytime soon.
I actually played the whole game with this 'get extra coins for killing enemies' badge because I want to give myself more lives but not make the platforming any easier.
I'd say the biggest bright side is that, since so many features and concepts were only used once or twice and never fully used to their full potential, the modding scene can go absolutely nuts with this game.
I want a super paper mario 2 so bad, it's far from a perfect game but it's just such a gold mine of charm. Probably still the most unique mario platformer if you include spinoffs.
Arlo is one of the few big reviewers I like cause he’s just skyways real about his reviews and explains why he feels the way he does which I’ve always thought was cool
I miss Arlocast, I’m glad you’re still keeping the spirit alive!
Arlocast is the best thing you’ve ever done and I’m fine with it continuing in this form without going by that name.
Hey Arlo, Nathaniel Bandy and Antdude! Glad to see you all talking about this game and I'm absolutely loving it myself. Mario Wonder is my favorite 2D Mario game now and I love how creative this game is. I'm so happy to finally have a modern Super Mario Bros game as ambitious and creative as the 3D Mario games like Galaxy. Wonder and Galaxy are my favorite Mario platformers and I'm so glad to see ambition and creativity back and better than ever across the whole series now, with the traditional Mario RPGs that everyone knows and loves making a triumphant return with beautiful modern remakes with Mario RPG and Thousand Year Door remake too, and I'm so glad to see creativity, ambition and wonder and that fun whimsical spirit completely back in 2D Mario thanks to Wonder, which has unlocked practically unlimited potential for where 2D Mario can go and expand thanks to how solid and good and fleshed-out this game is. Badges, literally game-changing mechanics like the Wonder Flower, and this game's beautiful presentation and completely fleshed-out and interesting world have so much potential for sequels and future 2D Mario games. Imagine having another 2D Mario game as fresh and fun as this but in a Mushroom Kingdom that feels really distinct and interconnected like the Flower Kingdom does here. That would be great I think.
It's pouring rain and I have a headache and a bunch of laundry to fold at work. I really needed this my guy l
I never knew I wanted this but I always needed it
Yay another Arlo Cast!
Mind adding this to the Arlocast feed?
New voice actors did great; I’m excited to see what they do in the future!
15:45 Actually, Yoshi is meant to be played by the parent to help the kid with Mario/Luigi/Toad/Peach/Daisy in difficult platforming sections and help reviving them!! Try it it's so much better.
Please make more of these discussion videos! Maybe one about Mario rpg remake??
If Arlo doesn’t review Mario RPG remake, let’s shame him for being a massive hypocrite.
I want to save this for work but I also want to hear about Mario wonder for an hour right now…
More of this please and thankyou
41:53 they do have a randomizer with the badges. It's called the Prince's choice. On the badge screen before entering or restarting a level you can press L to randomize the badges.
Happy Thanksgiving Arlo!
Bro, I would LOVE for arlocast to come back!!
you have the voice this wise owl should have *sigh* not fair lol awesome vid my friend
My solution to the badge problem would be to have each character keep their own unique ability from previous games and also let you pick a badge. So it would be like you have two, and some badges can give abilities like Peach's float to another if you want, but Peach would always have float, etc. That would make the characters still feel unique, and give some incentive to playing others while not forcing you to. Having levels crammed full with secrets only accessible by certain character abilities/badges would also help with them not feeling useless, as well as give more re-playability.
Wowie Zowie
I’m sad I wasn’t able to wowie zowie yoshi
If Arlocast had've been in the title, I would not have clicked it. My apologies, but I wanted you to know that certainly worked! I've just never got into podcasts!
Future Me: I almost didn't want to watch the video because I have some biiiig problems with Wonder and I thought maybe they wouldn't be brought up. I'm so glad literally the first person out the gate says they have some spicy takes coming up! I'm excited!
I guess online isn't for everyone but I'd say to people, you should try the online. It changes the experience of this game drastically, and for better. Like, this is Nintendo's best realized Online concept ever. It works flawlessly and you connect with everyone without the need of something like voice chat. I was amazed
Omg yes! What a collab. Love you three so much. Plus a whole hour talking about super Mario bros wonder. Favourite 2d mario game. 💫
quiz part giving me mad banjo vibes...and can we just take a minute to appreciate how those swinging enemies are very reminiscent of the dr mario enemies
I enjoy these game conversations, perfect to listen to while I campaign in Advance Wars.
You don’t upload these as podcasts anymore, do you?
at 7:41 Mario turns into something that instantly makes me think of an RCM jig. Not that any of us would ever use one of those....
DUDE I WAS THINKING "omg its like arlocast!" BEFORE WATCHING AND THEN THE THING HAPPENED AND I LOST MY MIND 😭😭
i have fond memories with arlocast, this made me so extremely happy oh my goodness
Honestly, when Arlo said, that if I put Arlo cast and the title, no one to watch it, my heart sunk. Those are Locast helped me on my daily commute for work A TON! I loved hearing the different guests come on and talk about their favorite games or the newest Nintendo news. And when he played the Arlo cast theme song, I squealed like an Arlo who had seen a Metroid Prime 4 announcement! I seriously miss those man! Thank you for this drop of Arlo cast to keep me going.
Man. ive been missing arlocast so much
Arlocast is back let’s goooo
15:52 you are so wrong, throwing people in coop is the best part of the new Mario games 😂
Or sprinting ahead and making everyone else’s lives miserable. Full night of laughter every time.
It was objectively shit.
I think that with badges, it would be perfect to be able to equip one of each "type" of badge. One action badge, so that you don't have complications with two actions bound to the same button, and then one boost badge so that you can have both better platforming and something powerup or coin related.
I'm with the Eusocial Insect Fellow, I only used the parachute cap and spin jump as well for most of the game.
I decided to play with the online mode turned on after listening to this. It’s actually quite fun! It’s also fun to help people out. It does make the game easier a bit, but I think it actually removes more frustrating aspects of dyeing and waiting for the level to reload.
Bro knows so well that if I knew it was a podcast I wouldn’t click 😅.
But all your names in the title was good cause- I know y’all, and love you. So of course!
I NEED that Super Mario RPG video, Arlo!
Do these more often Arlo!
What an awesome collaboration!
When I saw this, I immediately went to the podcast store to see if it was an Arlocast. I was sorry to see that end.
God, now I really want a Mario Land 2 remake.
More videos like this! I miss arlocast sooo much
My friend got so excited when i told her you uploaded another ""Arlocast"" only to be so bummed it wasnt an official one 😂
Those were so fun to listen to
Arlo not talking about pikmin for atleast a minute is insane lmao
Multiplayer online is so good! I would have never beaten many of the levels without help from the ghosts. I played mainly light blue Yoshi and since I didn't need power-ups I would drop them for other ghosts to use. It was so great! Luigi and Princess Daisy for the levels that required power-ups to beat. Nabbit was fun for different looking transformations. But the one time I was able to play with my family, we all had the best time with yoshis. Accidentally riding each other, saving someone from death, and the ability for my family members to use a character that wouldn't die. Helped us have so much fun. This is my all-time favorite mario game, with Galaxy coming in second. ❤
Fyi Arlo, there are some badges that are almost straight up upgrades to other ones, for example "verticle wall jump" is just a +1 jump when wall jumping, the "grapple vine" however, give INFINITE Wall jumps... From a distance.
There might be small tight windows with the former being nichely better, but like 90% of them would be better with the latter for everything except speed.
Edit: agree with you all on the bosses, was entirely anticipating koopaling shenanigans and was sad to not see them, i was hoping they had some post-game raids or war-camp clean up.
41:54 They have that. On the badge screen, have the prince suggest a badge and it’s random.
Just beat the main story yesterday with my S.O.
I wish the game was longer, but it was very, WONDERFUL!
“There should be a Mario game with 2D and 3D levels
Sonic Generations: “Don’t do it. I have the high ground.”
I don't know who this Bandy guy is but he needs to pay an artist to update his 2009 Deviantart-looking avatar.
That Toad impression at 19:39 was flawless.
We miss Arlocast! But this was such a treat.
Something I’ve noticed… The way the houses and castles change back to normal is reminiscent of how Mario’s castle changed back to normal in Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins.
"I would say to them you want ice cream cone? Both of them say yes! How in the hell?"
Arlo, you're a legend. In terms of the game. Just more sidescrolling mario
If I had to pick one favorite thing from this game it’s without a doubt the new enemies. There are so many and each are so unique. Changes the game entirely
I love the music. What music was used in the background? It's not straight VGM, I don't think. It's some nice arrangements, covers or remixes.
The crossover we needed!
Poor arlo. He wanted to show them his toad voice and no one said how good it was
super paper mario felt creative enough to me to qualify for the supper mario world level of "oh that's cool"
Finally finished the game, now I can watch this
This is basically Arlocast! Nice!!
I think Nintendo saw how well it sells and didn't want to risk alienating players. Like I love BOTW and TOTK, but the idea that normal 3D Zelda games might be dead now sucks.
"Normal" 3-D Zeldas are outdated as can be.
@@sidnew2739 Shut up people can like what they want.
Something you three didn't mentioned are the talking flowers.
Before the game came out. I remember reading people saying that they were going to turn the talking flowers off. But man they are actually a nice addition to the game. I chuckled a handfull if time to what they were saying. I had to turn them off for a moment and they say "Was it something I say?". That made me feel si baaaaad!!