Is the NEW 2022 VW GTI a BETTER hot hatch than a Honda Civic Type R?
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- čas přidán 11. 12. 2021
- The ALL NEW GTI is here and VW raised their hot hatch game. On the outside you will see the unmistakable lines of the GTI but with the updates from the Mk8. There is an all new front fascia, grill, LED lighting, and optional wheels. On the inside you will be greeted to a large infotainment screen, digital gauge cluster, and new seats. Under the hood is a 2.0L turbocharged inline-4 that produces 241HP & is mated to a 7-speed DCT transmission. Is the NEW 2022 VW GTI a BETTER hot hatch than a Honda Civic Type R?
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Really enjoying how Joe rates similar type cars 👍
Thanks man!
The Best :)
As a GTI 2021 autobahn driver for the last 6month … I’m in love 🥰
It's two weeks since I bought my GTI Autobahn 6MT in red. No knob to adjust volume is a pain, but you DO get used to the finger swipe and not resting your hand below it, inadvertently changing the display, etc. The really serious issue in my opinion is how many operations it takes to change the temperature and fan speed, especially while driving. It requires taking your eyes off the road as you find the CLI button, open the screen, hit the plus or minus to raise or lower the temperature, use your finger to swipe fan speed up or down, and THEN remember to SYN so passenger and driver enjoy the same setting. Very, very bad and would have been so much easier and safer with knobs. The seats are very comfortable and supportive, and the whole cockpit is a great place to be. Driving dynamics are as satisfying and fun as I'd ever expect. Not as fast as an R, doesn't have AWD, but the price difference is considerable. Overall, I'm very glad I bought it. Beware of dealers who are "enhancing" sticker prices up to $4K.
Thanks for sharing that excellent feedback from your ownership! I can't wait to drive the manual version.
Have you used the favourites feature and steering wheel controls for volume changing ?
@@vroomgc No, I haven't, but I will try it. Thanks for the advice!
40k you can pick a STI or golf R right near the same age
Agree with your comment about climate control being irritating. Worst part for me if the climate controls are locked while driving. So if it starts to fog up while driving, you can't turn on the defroster while driving. Must be at a stop to have the full climate control options available. Seems less safe to not be able to turn that on, especially after navigating to the menu.
Joe I started to watch your reviews last May when I was in the market for a 2021 Jetta R line and I bought it because of watching it. I have watched many of your other ones since and they are awesome! Especially your little tid bit comments of the food and drink storage!! Haha! Great stuff and I do really like my R line with the manual but going to look at the Gti today. I had a 83 Gti when they came to the USA and loved it!
That is so wonderful! Thank you for sharing that! Your support really means a lot!
Wish there were some physical climate buttons
I know right!
Get the s manual trim and u get w knobs
Replacing physical buttons with touch buttons is a deal breaker. I say this as someone that had a 2011 GTI.
Anyone who buys a car based on the infotainment system is not a real car person.
Thanks for not complaining about the Infotainment. Sick of hearing it. I get it's not perfect but it does take time to get used to it.
I totally changed my view on the GTI because of this video. I would have preferred the full electric assist on passenger side, longer manual pads and some nobs instead of all touch screen. But overall looks like a fun car to drive !
Just got a 2020 GTI Autobahn 6MT a year ago. I love it!!
I just think if I’m paying $40k for a full featured GTI, I’d rather shell out the extra $3k for the AWD and extra HP in the Golf R.
I think though you have to take into consideration this is a top trim
Yeah you can almost get a Audi S3 for that much
@@Mano_421 true, but honestly I’d rather have the R than the S3 because of the manual. It’s also faster and has more driver features like Nurburgring and Drift mode.
I’m sticking with manual as long as I can
@@Mano_421 Another $5k will get that done.
@@RaitisRides the truth is car manufacturers cannot please everyone lol...especially when it comes to infotainment system
I have watch a lot of videos of you man and today I found out I was not subscribe to this beautiful community you have built!. But today is the day!
Love your videos man. Keep it up 👍🏻 bro. You’re a legend.
Thanks brother for being so supportive!
Wow! Love this car! Fantastic review! I need to go test drive! My 330i lease is up May 31.
Great review! And thank you Lorie for your camera work!
You are so very welcome Joel! Lori really is the best in the biz!
Front facia looks 👌 🔥
I really enjoy your presentation skills, too much respect
OH YEAH THE ONE I'VE BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO = ever since I saw the sweet pics on IG, I thought I gotta catch the YT review. thanks JOE/LORI.
We are so happy to bring it to you!
Nice car. The instrument cluster looks like was an afterthought, probably the screens are to reflective. I would love to have one in other color. Another awesome review. 👍
Love the redesign and the color is sweet.🤙🏾
I’m right there with you!
That color is stunning
I just bought a 2022 VW GTI Autobahn this past weekend and love it! I have the same color and everything 😊 my first VW was a year 2000 Beetle and I loved that car lol
Love the color Joe! Like the Austin yellow on M3😎
Because of you this is my next car! You really enjoyed this review. So did I. Thanks!
Yeeeeeeeeeeeees maaaaaaaan!!!! Some GTI on throttle tiiiiiiiime!!!! Let's gooooooooooooooooo!!! Hey Joe they surely have evolved the GTI here and added tweaks here and there and the performance is nothing to sneeze at!!! You already know me though, Team Honda all day long!!! Took delivery of my crystal black pearl Civic Sport last week man and I loving it!!! Massive thanks to you and Lori for qll you do, bringing us these epic reviews day in and day out!!! Y'all are the MVP'S for real for real!!!
I knew you were going to be all over this one Mario!
Great video brother!! I bought a 2012 GTI Autobahn edition love it !!I have always been a die hard Subaru WRX fan boy lol…but I gotta say the interior on my GTI blows the Subaru away exterior got say I lean to the Subaru,but not by a huge margin ….I love that the Subaru regular WRX non STI is AWD I think that GTI trim level should be AWD ,but that’s what really separates the R model plus about 75-85 HP lol…..I probably should have bought the R ,but nevertheless I’m super happy with my GTI ….Merry Christmas 🎄,and HappyNew Year to you ,and the family!!I have been on the journey with you for a long time I think you had like 50-60k subscribed at the time I joined lol….best channel by far !! Keep the outstanding work up brother !!!🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻❤️❤️
Rims look amazing 👏
I’m on my 5th GTI.. my mk7 2015 built way back in 2014 has been PERFECT no issues
Real nice re design and that color is very nice too. Good job on the review 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👌🏻
I really like the car you have. I believe Sofyan from Redline Reviews drove a similar one but I recall that the interior with different, but I start to question that as I type this. The lag on the infotainment unit was very apparent. You tried to highlight its application but it definitely came up short from what I imagine VW would find acceptable. I wonder if that is somehow anything that could be updated wirelessly or at the dealership via some sort of a service bulletin. If that worked flawlessly, or reasonably close to that, I’d find this car hard to resist. I’m curios what the in-the-seat difference really would be between the GTI and the R. At these prices, it’s certainly wise to not only consider what other new cars may compete with this, perhaps not head-to-head, as well as what used car values there may be once the market stabilized in whatever fashion we can expect or to in the near future.
One last thought Joe, I like just about everything you present and always tell myself, “I’m gonna buy that one. Yup. That’s it.” I think when the time comes it’ll likely be the 86, maybe the Supra, maybe a Cayman and maybe a Miata RF. Those are the ones I’m always thinking of and then a newcomer comes along but it takes a lot to stay in rotation.
You’re literally my favorite reviewer. Love your reviews man. REVIEW THE GOLF R!!!
Thanks Travis for having my back! I should be getting it in a couple weeks!
Great review. Love the latest GTI. Would have to have 3 pedals in a hot hatch, though!
then you miss out on all those good DSG farts!
I love it my boy Joe keep up the work and I love the video lot real true 💯 👍
Seats 💺 look incredible 😍
Amazing review like always
When you going to drive new golf R I wanna see that one so bad
Joe!! Have you heard anything about when the 22’ Jetta refresh is supposed to hit the lots! I’m really looking forward to getting one, and i can’t wait for a review on one as well once it comes out!!
Stunning color!
It really pops in the sun.
I need buttons! Climate and radio buttons/knobs are a must!
Superb review, on an even more superb car.
I’ve been seeing a mixed bag about the color of this car but for me I love it. It’s definitely a head turner when people see it
I’m digging it! It really fits it!
I have been watching your videos for months and just realized I’m not subscribed! Don’t worry I hit dat button but a car I would love to see would be a 2014 3.7 RS Roush mustang. They are the coolest and best sounding sub 6 sec car and are very competitively priced in the used market.
Thanks Rati!
Normally Kia Soul green cars are a big no for me, but that green color looks so nice. This generation will definitely turn some heads, familiar yet new! Thanks Joe!
love to have me a new GTI, but doin the Mopar thing right now.. if gets to be too much cost wise, i'm goin back to one of these in a flash,! had a 96 and a 03, sweet little rides
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I totally understand that situation.
this a nice little car and giving you some nice perks inside the car
I wish automakers realise that they don’t need to do away with all knobs. Screens are certainly the new way, but they can be combined with knobs so that you’re not fumbling for every little setting. I think the Accord has a good balance. Moreover, those buttons on the steering wheel seem like they may have some flex. On another note, Joe sets the bar for car reviews because after watching a few, you know which part comes next, where he talks about the price, and when he heads off “to the door panels!” Brilliant.
They really need to understand that futuristic ≠ no buttons. Thats my only gripe with this car
I like the color of the one you are testing . It looks good in it by the way.
It really pops in the FL sun!
@@RaitisRides yes. It reminds me of the lime green paint that jeep has.
@@Reaperguy67 Or the Tacoma TRD PRO Electric Lime.
explains the Car very well.
Just picked up my MK 8 GTI. During the walkthrough I learned the subwoofer is actually where the spare is as well. Who knew 🤷
Also I absolutely love how you have so many ways to customize the ambient lighting (including the cluster and infotainment screen colors). It's actually quite impressive how much customization you can do
Im getting mine tomorrow! cant wait
Update, ambient lighting is amazing and the infotainment absolutely does not deserve all the hate its perfectly useable for anyone under 70 years old and i love the lack of buttons it looks clean as F.
That 2.0 can haul some decent ass under boost!
@@caffeineisking8132 exactly! I'm coming from a MK 7.5 which is a great car and I loved it. The MK 8 is on a whole other level
@@stevegaspar I came from an arteon R line so its considerably faster and smaller the only thing i do miss is the arteon had a usb C in the centre arm rest which was ideal for charging headphones ect whilst hidden they could of thrown that in!
@@caffeineisking8132 there's 4 USB C ports and wireless charging in the MK8 should be all good!
Thank you Joe Rati, I was considering getting a different car until I heard that this Volkswagen Golf has a SLIM JIM HOLDER!!! I cannot tell you how many times my Slim Jim’s would get stuck between the seat cushions. But not to fear, this car has a Slim Jim holder!
Been waiting for this review. Vw is back!
Heck yeah David!
as a gti mk7 owner I can admit the reliability issues with VW is terrible but the EA888 engine that they made (it’s the one I have) has turned out to be quite reliable and well I’ve had my car for a year now at 77k miles and the suspension still feels new
Thanks for sharing that great ownership input about your GTI Alex.
Love 💘 the color 😍
I like that color! But I'm not in love with the rear end (Looks like a Tiguan to me), the honeycomb fog lights, nor the interior with all the capacitive touch controls. Let that interior heat up above 90 degrees-Just like the 2021 Mk7.5 GTI I had, nothing will start to work until it cools down. I wonder if they will reintroduce some knobs and switches in a few years-I know that'll grab my attention and consider getting another GTI, which would be my 3rd.
Sunday night review to ease my Monday blues😃
I know that feeling! Thanks for letting me share the ON THROTTLE with you!
Please review the GTI S Mark 8 with the 18" wheels 40 series tires, which comes without DCC. I want to know if the ride quality without DCC on 18" wheels will be comfortable for touring or does the suspension without DCC make for a rough ride. Unfortunately DCC is not an option you can spec in the U.S.
Joe after driving both the new GTI & Elantra/Kona N and getting an in depth look. After all said and done which would you go with? pros and cons
Hey Danny- I would go Elantra N. Just a better performance oriented car.
I like the red badge but I also like the blue badge in the hybrid
I don’t think the GTI and Type R is a fair comparison. Golf R vs Type R is a better head to head comparison. Similar HP and both are similar price.
Both are FWD. the GOLF R now has more HP & of course AWD.
@@RaitisRides we really would need the GTI Clubsport to compete with the Type R
@@neekjp You know I think with a super set of sticky tires this GTI would put up a good fight.
@@RaitisRides I think the 7-speed DCT makes up the power difference on the track, the launch control in the drag. Plus the equipment is nicer than in the Type R.
@@RaitisRides if they brought the clubsport over, that would be the comparison... the gti doesn't have the power or the race components to compete... the golf r has a slower Nurburgring time than the clubsport... of course the type r is faster than both but the clubsport will be giving it another try very soon...
a lot of cars especially corolla put the touch screen over the top of the dashboard ike a pop up but the VW they leveling under the dashboard thats a good things.
🤩❤️it’s beautiful, but i had my Tesla Y over two wks now, i will never go back to a GAS car 👎🏽 but VW did a beautiful job with this one, love it 😍
Previous model had gas struts to hold the hood up, they cut obvious costs with the Mk8
That color is EVERYTHING!!! Joe you're getting even more muscley too! WOOF!
Great review Joe! I’m on the fence at the moment between the Autobahn and the R. I prefer the looks of the GTI and I don’t need the AWD of the R in SC. Out the door price not much difference between the two but with premium fuel of the R/higher taxes long term the price is much higher. Think I’m going GTI. But I’m still going back and forth…
Yes that would be a struggle and for me being in the north I'm going R and getting that extra power too. Dont forget that in the rain from a start the R is better too you dont need snow to get the benefits of 4motion
@@vroomgc awd is nice to have. This car will be my daily..I have a Jeep Wrangler also so if weather ever gets bad I’d drive that. I test drive a GTI next week so I’ll see how I like it. I currently can’t get on a list to order a Golf R at my local dealership yet. Will see what happens!
@@roddyperry5606 Sounds like a plan!
How much their charging for autobahn il take R over it all day long you get more power n better grip with awd
But the resell value would be better if you get the r
Gorgeous car!!!
definitely need some after market headers
Legend...the GOAT!!
I am so glad that yo like this GTI!
Thanks
You are so very welcome.
I had a mk6 gti and loved it until it started being unreliable (100k miles). I live in a heavy traffic area and it’s time for me to get an automatic car. VW/Audi are one of the few cars I wouldn’t mind getting in auto. Looking forward to testing out one of these things.
Most everyone in the continental US, live in a heavy traffic area, George.
I bought one last week in a 6 speed manual. Traction control on is almost to much when you’re getting your foot into and shifting hard. I don’t mind the infotainment screen but the biggest miss is not back lighting the sliders for the volume and climate controls on the dash. All in all I absolutely love it, but I don’t think you’re going to get a lot of Type R drivers giving the nod as the GTI being a better vehicle.
How is the gti a better vehicle 🤔
Does this competes with the SI? Does the Golf R competes with the Tupe R?
Great review, but the entertainment system without buttons isn't safe. And you will always accidentally press the heating steering wheel button because of those dreadful capacitor buttons 😱
I totally agree with you Patrick!
Great review as always Joe !!
Think 40000 grand is to rich 🤑
Even if it’s the premium version
Joe, I'd go with the VW for sure, I had a 2018 which I really liked. Question.... I thought the gas pedal and brake were too close together and found with my wider foot that I quite often would depress both at the same time, did you experience any of this while you drove the new version? Thanks and as always.... Lori's camera work is top notch once again!!
I have this issue in my MK6, good to know if I end up buying a MK7.5 that will be there too.
Great review Joe as usual! Can’t wait to see your review of the R!
Thanks man! I can't wait to bring it to you!
You should try to get your hands on the new veloster N dct
Don't love it yet...hoping an 8.5 refresh will win me over in a few years. For now totally happy with my '19 GTI.
the "patched" 8.5 will probably be the perfect car
@@dominathor fingers crossed!
Clean design especially tail end 👍, 31 mpg highway 👍. Had the opportunity to be in one and loved it even it's only front wheel drive unlike the R with all wheels. Slam in akrapovic exhaust and u r good to go 😁👍.
I like your idea on the exhaust!
@@RaitisRides 😂👍 thx
Really something I've considered. Ended up putting a down payment on a 22 Civic hatchback touring 6 speed. Absolutely love this car but don't think I could swing the extra cheese. Such a beautiful damn car
I'm in the same position. Bout to go for the Sport Touring Hatchback
@@thesmellycatjazz got my six speed unexpectedly about a month ago now. Love it
Now which is quicker this or the dct Veloster N??
I love this car but i was hoping the interior had a bit more flash on this trim . Im probably getting one after my miata goes back. I will say , $40k for a fwd car with some options is a bit much even in the current market . That was golf r money.
Everything seems to be going up in price!
@@RaitisRides yeah , this is a much higher percentage in increase than most . Wonder what the R is going to be
@@Spiritcr1jsher Same here!
@@Spiritcr1jsher going to guess 55k base price
That doesn’t include the dealer mark up that just about every dealership is adding. My autobahn with 6 speed manual was $40k with a $4k markup.
I have the mk7.5, I think I prefer it more! I like the analog gauges vs the touch. And my GTi doesn’t have a the hood prop rod lol. I do like the HUD and ventilated seats
Does the 7.5 have struts? I have a MK6, and it has struts as well. I've just swore the 7.5s had a good prop rod as well
@@goldendevereaux yup my car has struts. I think the engine cover on the 8 makes the engine bay look cheap as well
What’s the wind and road noise like at highway speeds?
I’m gonna zonk that cup holder. The MK7.5 has a nice sliding cover making the car seem more premium. The new cabin looks more modern, but a whole lot cheaper.
Could you recommend GTI vs Elantra N?
I think my oldest daughter will love this hatchback
If you're diggin' the gti you should really try the worlds finest fwd hot hatch, Renault megane RS trophy (R). It's a weapon and golf gti feels like a hairdressers toy car if you compare the two. Golf is a good allrounder tho. Cheers.
Very Nice.
Wow you don’t get the moving turn signal light at the rear end even on the highest trim
that german chocolate cake bit was goated
Thanks for saying that!
40k wow thats insane! ill keep my 2021 wrx!
Raiti I would love to see you race some these cars on the track like a hot hatch comparison see which one wins
That’s a great idea Robby! I will put that together!
This car would look amazing in Nardo Grey with black roof and rear spoiler.
That would look hot!
Hatches are good but like you Joe we also love sports cars Plus manual ❤️🌹
Heck yeah! I am so glad though that this car exists and you can get a manual.
I’m not a fan of VW’s so it’s Honda T R for me. Thanks for the great review Joe and nice job Lori!! 👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸
I had a feeling you were going to go that route!
7:02 A small point, but the hood prop rod has not been around since day one. My Mk7 GTI S has hood struts. Not a giant deal to me, but it matters to some.
Ooh...now would be a good time for me to try German engineering. 241hp is pretty good.
I think it'll sit nicely next to my WRX 🙂👍
The GTI would actually be a good upgrade to your wrx
Omg.. I love the GTIS man, really do. What the hell is up with that interior? I'm watching this on the tv with my wife and I had to go on my phone to leave a dam comment! VOLKSWAGEN, RECALL AND RE DO THE INTERIOR! EXTERIOR IS TOO AMAZING FOR THAT AWKWARD INTERIOR!
Does this even compete with the type r? isn't it slotted more in the realm of si, wrx?
Would you say it felt faster than a type R or Subaru WRX ?
Love to see it
Awesome Adrian!
Put the buttons back! No time playing with touch screen when driving!