Before Riding Your Surfskate, Do These 3 Quick Things
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- čas přidán 27. 06. 2024
- In this video for newbies, I show you three quick things to do before riding your surfskate. This includes stopping any squeaking noises, making sure the wheels are rolling properly, and making sure the surfskate truck is working properly.
VIDEO TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Introduction
02:00 How to Stop Your Surfskate from Squeaking
05:22 Make Sure Your Surfskate Wheels are Spinning Properly
09:27 Make Fixes or Adjustments to Your Surfskate Truck
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Just wanted to note that you shouldn't loosen your axle nuts at all. Hand spin is in no way indicative of how your bearings perform. By loosening the axle nuts you will actually decrease performance and negatively impact the lifespan of components. Always make sure they are tight, and ignore the freespin myth. Other than that, appreciate your channel!
Thank you!!! That squeak was killing me!! One of my back wheels was stopping early but I watched one of your earlier videos and fixed that 🥳
Just was listening to your video and wanted to comment on the speed ring advice. Nowadays, speed rings really aren’t necessary with proper bearing design. The times when you need them will be on bearings that aren’t already spaced properly, and that’s going to include most bearings that don’t come with built-in style bearing spacers. In almost every built-in I’ve ever seen, you’re going to get an extra mm or so out of that outer edge of the inner race, which is doing the exact job that you described is the job of the speed ring-forcing the bearing to sit as flush as possible and to give some space between the truck axle facing interface and the shield of the bearing. What would cause slow-down there is if the shield were rubbing on the face of the hanger. The inner race of the bearing is not designed to spin, so it’s perfectly fine to butt that thing up against the hanger face nice and tight (unless you’re getting binding due to improper spacing, as you mentioned).
Great videos! Thanks for all the hard work and dedication!
i am absolutely brand new to surf skating and i stepped on it first time this weekend! You're a guru, thanks for these videos, im learning so much! I need to figure out how to do the basic push off and pump haha
Next level insights. Newbie who is doing the homework and waiting on first surfskate. Thank you for sharing the wisdom . 🤙
Me ha encantado la explicación. Es lo que me faltaba para sentirme segura con el skate y avanzar! Thanks you from Spain!
Nice informative vid again! Just wanted to say thanks for the recent advice on Mindless trucks, bought some instead of the Carver CX, very happy with them!!🤙🏼👊🏼
Thank you for this! I’ve been looking for this tutorial everywhere. 💕
Very nice to be done with the squeaking so easily. Thanks!
Steve! Newbie here. Thanks for this! I was ready to give up on my Yow Huntington with cinetic wheels because the things just won’t roll well after pumps. I watched this video, and jeeeeez found out my wheel spin stops within 3 secs. I got mine from SkatePro and realized how fricken awful the bearings were. Slapped some Reds on these and danggg I love surfskating again.
Also, the S5 squeaks right outta the box like you said. I couldn’t find a paraffin wax but turns out candle wax/shavings worked. (Not the soy ones but the birthday candle type ones)
But yeah thanks! Wouldn’t have known!
awesome video, thanks! loved the tip about fixing the squeaking, will apply that.
Amazing video! So much good information for newbies like myself. Waiting on a review on that Bolsa as well.
Great video! Very important the setup of the surfskate. Thank u for your help
After seeing this video everytime I see someone with a squeaky board I smile to myself. Fortunately mine didnt squeak but I did need to back the wheel nut off to get good spin. Thanks!
Thank you so much! Now my board is even more fun to ride since I loosened my trucks up a bit.
Omg excellent video as always Steve, although I've passed this stage, I would have definitely benefited from this video when I started!
I have the same board on the way. Coming Thursday. Excited for mine.
Nice vid with great info as always, hope to see a review of that bolsa soon!
Just wanted to say hi . I came across your video about week ago surfskating in bowls and how you learned in 30 days so I went out got me the same board your showing in this video so glad you made this video I’m 50 but in good shape always wanted to ride the bowl like you do. But only ever did the cruise thing got a few hamboards my favorite is the biscuit. Just wanted to say so glad I found your Channel. Thanks for all the great info. Can’t wait to get pumping.🤞🏼
How’s the surf skating going? I just tried my friends board for the 1st time. It was fun & scary. I’m an intermediate transition skater, but taking the surf skate to the bowl was scary.
Great video, as always. Your vedios and coursework have been a god send 🙏
TBH 100% this should be in the your introduction course! I'm ~10 hours skate time, and would like to have known all of this from of off. Assuming that spare bushes are universal between normal and surf skateboards 🤗
Thank you!!! Awesome video!
I just bought a triton with cx so that video is for me the killer one !
Thanks a lot man
Thank you. I just a beginner of surfskate. Your video is very helpful.
Thank you! This is so helpful!
Looking forward to a review on the Bolsa. I have held it and it feels on the heavy side. I personally don’t like heavier boards for surfskating. I put a YOW Meraki system on a Loaded Omakase deck and it felt very sluggish. Omakase deck is a lot lighter than Bolsa deck though. However a YOW Malibu deck is around 5 inches longer and around 10% lighter. So for its length, it seems a fairly heavy deck. In the end it’s all in the ride. I’ll wait till I see somebody riding one and try it myself.
thank you for posting !!!
Thanks for this video!
Super helpful video
Thank you!
Thank you for such a helpful video!
Hi Steve, looking forward to your bolsa review!
Really great video! 🤙
Well explained. My personal taste is to make the front truck as loose a yours and tighten the back truck to imitate the fins of a surfboard
This worked wonders thx you so much 😁
Now this is a really good tutorial. Thanks mate!
@steve !
As good as ever !!! ( From Bordeaux - France ) ^^
I share your videos on Surfskate France!
Hello Steve!!
I'm a newbie too. I bought the CARVER 31.25" KNOX PHOENIX CX a few days ago and it arrived yesterday. I was impatient to try it, but the front mechanism is very rigid (it is impossible to turn it with my hand) and my rear wheels stopped within 3-4 seconds. There is also the squeaking sound you mentioned.
I don't know if it is for this reason, I tried pumping while driving but it doesn't accelerate!!
This video is perfect for me. I will try the steps here and try again. I hope the reason why I cannot accelerate is due to missing adjustments. 😊
I have benefited a lot from your videos throughout this process. Especially the technical information and charts you provided while choosing my surfskate were amazing. I'm grateful. 🙏
Nicely done
thank you so much!!!!!!!!!!!
Definitely try bronson raw bearings. They are superior to any bearing I’ve used in my life.
Thanks for the set up advice. It added a bit more play to my emerald peak carver. It now feels closer to my Yow and swell tech.
Ive ridden Cadillac bearings for 10 years and still going, fast and quiet as heaven. I love their silence.
Thank you, best advice ever on the squeaky board. I've had a surfskate for a year and ended up accepting the fact that the squeak was normal...
Hi, Steve. Very surprised about the the absence of the speed rings.
Good job us usual. Thank you so much for all yours videos.
Jehu V2 bearings just like other so called built-in bearings have speed rings rings built in to the bearing. No need to add speed rings. Not sure if it’s bad to add speed rings to built-in bearings, but it does push out the wheel slightly further.
Thanks for all your Videos. They are helping me a lot as a beginner at surf skating 😄 great work!! Greetings from Germany 🤙🏼
Hi I have a mechanical engineering baclground. Please know that some bearings don't roll when not under load. They are always specified for a weight range and this might be the weight of the board or the person. So sometimes the bearing doesn't spin if you pull the wheel, but eith the load of a person they might be great. These are not necessarily expensive industry grade bearings. Sometimes companies have to source these things creatively and so you might have these. But that should not be seen as a quality problem. They are oftentimes more efficient.
nice video man
Good content Steve! I prefer soap shavings instead of wax for my bushings though. That way it won't matter if some of it accidentally get on my grip. Cheers!
Smart!
You are the reference bro. I have a smoothstar and I wanted to try my new cx truck and it is making that same noise when having good times in the bed.
thank you
Can you do a bushing review? I'd love to drive into that for especially rear trucks
Hello great master! I follow your channel, I have your course... Simply fantastic, your content helped me a lot to evolve in surfskating, I thank you from the bottom of my heart... After a few months I realized my dream of getting a "loaded carver bag with CX truck" it took me a long time I had to import it... It arrived here but when I was doing a simple test ride I noticed a lot of creaking noises... I'm working up the courage to give a review, do you recommend anything... ( I saw from the specification that the orangatang nipple also meets the basic requirements of the carver truck, but all the videos and materials I see use the knukles.. Could I have a problem with this? )
🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷👏🏻, Thank you so much for the video, it was awesome.I am interested in the bolsa and the trip collab! I already own so many carvers and loaded boards and Landyatchtz!
Ideea for a video:
Kingpin placement, should they be standard, reverse, front facing or rear facing?
Angled risers: what angle and height would be optimal for surfskate?
Thank you very much for your support
swapping out my bushings to Loaded knuckles made my Slide sooooooooooooooo much more buttery smooth.
Finally, a use for my weed shaped skate wax. :D No more squeak.
Oh, Steve! I would love to do this! Unfortunately, Glenn would not let me touch his surfskate! As I only borrow his whenever he's at work (I only get to 'have' it in 4 hours approximately to learn ride it everyday, I wish to ride it a few more hours though). And, by the way, he smirks everytime I borrow his surfskate and shirt to do my vids because I wanna monitor my progression in these days. :) I watch your videos everytime! And gawd you're a heaven sent for newbies like us. Thanks a lot!
That's hilarious! 😂Love you two!
Nice, After maintenance my rear truck bushing is making a popping out sound, i have revised but found nothing.
You can also use synthetic/oxidation-free machine grease with a high atension. This will last longer than wax.
Thank*
Perfect video! Any tip to stop the front truck nut that keeps getting loose? Thx!
If it keeps loosening, it's probably time to replace it. The nylon on those nuts wears out and you have to replace them periodically.
Great video. Could you also use something like synthetic grease in the pivot cup?
Yeah, lithium grease or marine grease work.
Hi Steve, thanks for helping newbies. One comment, i think the speed rings are very important as they are the same diameter as the axle of the bearing. Therefore they act as a spacer between the bearing and the bolt / hanger. Without speed ring, you may get contact between those and the rubber ring of the bearing
No need for speed rings with these bearings
@@rvdt4ever that’s correct, it’s "built in" with that type of bearing, as are the spacers.
Just started surf skating. I was drawn to the unthink boards wheels. Which brand and hardness are they? Thanks for the information.
Thank you so much for your videos. I have a question about the Carver CX bushings. Is it possible to use third party ? Do the matching bushings have a specific designation ?
Thanks in advance!
Stay healthy!
To my knowledge there are no aftermarket bushings that fit CX bushings precisely. This is something I'm working on with RipTide. ;-)
Hi same love from me. Great work and so much help to get started. I have set up my first 2 boards now a YOW Padang Stock and a YOW la Santa with Carver CX. Even I am 100kg the Carver CX feel too tight to get going especially also for turns in ramps. So I assume I need to gear up bushings. Do you have a recommendation for firmness and model to fit? Wheels will be the seismic 66 since i am afraid the carver park are to small for the way to the park:-)
Ah and your videos made my son of 8 join in! He skipped his scooter! So much thanks for that! His landyachts 29 I have put a waterborne adapter with the rail which is crazy good for his 30 kg!
Great video as always! 👏👏👏
Now I now how to fix that squeaking on my board 😄
Q: What about regular maintenance? I’ve noticed that my wheels (especially around the bearings) got quite dirty after some rides. How to clean the bearings and how often? 🤔
I’ve read that you can oil the bearings too as the board might ride slower than it should. Any suggestion? Perhaps a follow up video for newbies? 😅
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@@SurfskateLove awesome, thanks! 😁
for those out there who dont have paraffin wax laying aroung, graphite powder is a pretty good lubricant. just crush up the lead of a softer pencil and sprinkle it as needed
Could you review the grasp surfskate please
Hi. I've watched a lot of your videos... very helpful... I've been riding for 3 years and I started in my 50s .I've got about 8 longboards and a Bolsa carver .. I've experimented with different boards trucks adjustments etc as you say ...can I ask ....you loosen the front trucks on the Bolsa..how about the back trucks...am I correct in that you should keep those tighter for better pumping ? Thanks for your videos as it helped me not getting het up with thinking 50 is a bit late to start. Ha ! I love it good exercise but also relaxing. I'm lucky I live on the coast in Kent England...Best wishes. Mitch
Hey Mitch, it's just personal preference. Personally, I ride with both my front and rear nuts as loose as possible.
@@SurfskateLove Thank you for your reply . I'll experiment a bit with that. Best wishes. Mitch
do you have a video with trucks that have a spring?
Can you make one for the smoothstar please
вчера купил свой первый carver cx. посмотрел это видео. мне очень помогло настроить свою доску. спасибо большое!
Приятно слышать! Спасибо, что поделился!
I just got a used Carver CX and the previous owner didn't take care of the bearings and has everything over tightened. So I appreciate this video greatly. Question though about the tightness of the rear truck. Do you also recommend loosening it the same amount/method as the front?
That's what I do, but it's just personal preference. Just play with it and see what you like best.
Thank you for this vid!! I just got a second-hand Mindless Surfskate, but I can't get the front truck off. The piece that sits in the pivot cup seems to be stuck in there... Do you have any tips for removal, please? I saw you had Mindless Surfskate in your 15 Surfskates reviewed video - which is how I decided to go for it! Thanks
I'm sorry but I would just have to see it.
@SurfskateLove, a question. I've adjusted my new CX Carver based on this video (thanks to all of your work on this channel). The repetitive issue I get is, that the front kingpin knot gets loose now, after some time I spent riding my surfskate. So I have to tigthen it up after 1 hour of riding. Any recommendation how to fix this?
I’m new to surfskate but street skateboarded for over 25 years…
You need to break in bushings. So tighten the bushing to where you like and start riding. Break in period is usually a day or two of a couple of hours of riding… but they will still be breaking for the first 10 days… that’s one reason why professionals don’t change their trucks as often as their decks and wheels.
steve, hello!
make the same detailed video with the C7 truck
dismantling Carver Greenroom...
please!!!
Check out this one as well as some of his other videos on dissecting trucks and maintenance: czcams.com/video/fZDiAIZiINY/video.html
Steve, I just asked this question at another skateboarder's channel because his vid is on the Penny High-Line surf skate. I haven't been able to find any literature on this, but am wondering for complete surf skate newbies such as myself, when starting out should I tighten up the Waterborne's surf and rail adapters as well as the bushings on my skateboard trucks to increase the turning resistance until I become more familiar and comfortable riding a surf skate? Thanks for your thoughts, Steve. Liked and subscribed to your channel!
The Waterborne Surf Adapter is not adjustable, so you just have to get used to it.
Thank you so much for this informative video, @surfskatelove! Do you have a link for the skate tool that includes the bearing press at minute 7:00?
Those are very common and there are lots of brands. Just search for skate tool with bearings press.
Will do. Thanks so much!
No need to add speed rings to Jehu V2 bearings. They have speed rings built in. As far as I know these type of bearings are called build-in bearings. Not sure if it’s bad to add speed rings, but it does push out the wheels slightly more. It also defeats the main benefit of of built-in bearings, you can quickly change wheels without having to mess with speed rings. I have lots of wheels and just put these Jehu V2 bearings in all of them😂.
Gotcha. I have lots of built-in bearings, including Jehu, and I didn't know you don't need speed rings with them. Thanks!
Steve, i also have CX trucks. do you make the front and back trucks/bushings equally tight? or the front looser than the back?
thanks for the great videos!
Hey , I have the same doubt
@@asaphe21 That is the SAME question I was about to type!! How does the "tightness" of the rear truck affect the turning action of the front trucks (especially when the front trucks are spring-based)?
Personally, I ride both as loose as possible.
Do you leave the rear truck loose like the front truck? thank you for posting this video!
Yes.
You usually don’t need speed rings with built-in bearings like the Loaded Jehu which are provided with this board
That's absolutely correct loaded bearings does not need speed rings.
Yeah, that's something I learned this time.
@@SurfskateLove that's why I use them with all of my wheels. You also don't have spacers, which makes it hassle-free to change wheels between boards
@@happyon4wheels Love it. Learn something new every day. I have a lot of built-ins, including Jehus. 😂
Sweet man thank you I just went from a waterborne to the cx…I’m running 75mm 81a wheels are those too big ? I messed up my order
I wouldn't run bigger than 70mm wheels on a surfskate, but some people do. You may need to add risers to eliminate wheelbite.
Hey Steve great example with the Bolsa. Just one question. In your experience which truck for surfskate has lasted the most? in comparison with the wavecam system of the Original trucks which break almost instantly I would prefer the CX bushing system for a long lasting truck. Am I right?
CX all the way. Simplest, easiest to maintain, most durable.
Hey Steve, question: I bought also some knuckles for my CX. But I find that the big washer that you need to lift at the front truck like in the video scratches while turning the truck the inside of the truck. Have you also experienced this problem? Maybe the nut is not tightened enough?
I'm sorry but I'm not quite understanding your question. I'd have to see a picture or video.
Some advice on proper foot placement on the Loaded Bolsa please. I ride regular and my back foot feels great. Locked in place, very ergonomic.
My front foot feels strange since I normally have my foot perpendicular to the board. I feel the wheel wells force me to have a 45 degree angle where my heel is behind the wheel well and the ball of my foot is in front of the wheel well.
It is just my riding style? Or is it actually better for me to have the ball of my foot actually on top of the wheel well? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
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Hi! One question, in a slide truck is the same? I saw the truck is different and I don't want to do nothing wrong 😅 thanks a lot I like your videos so much!
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The Slide doesn't have a pivot cup on front.
@@SurfskateLove thanks. yeah, so, how I put the parafine? Or in the slide is not important?
I see in the Carver CX there are upgraded bushings. If you're a heavier rider above 220 lbs how does one tell if they need a harder duro bushing for their surfskate? How does one tell if bushings need to be changed at all with a surfskate? Previously with regular skateboard TKP trucks if I get wheel bite or if the lean isn't gradual I change the stock 90A cushions to something harder or if I have to tighten down to the point where the bushing is looking like a burger I change the cushion out.
You don't "need" to change them at all. You can get used to whatever you ride. It's just about finding your preference by experimenting.
I have the oxelo Carv which basically has the CX truck and my issue is that the kingping nut keeps getting loose while I ride. I either tighten it a lot, which I don't like the feeling or have it a bit loose but need to tighten it every 15 minutes of heavy carving. Any suggestion?
You say the Carve truck is "basically the CX" truck, but it's actually very different and inferior. Don't know that there's any fix to that.
@@SurfskateLove uhm ok, it looked similar in camera to a non expert but still has a kingpin nut right? Any idea on how to solve the loosening?
The Oxelo Carve 540 uses a bushing-based truck and not a spring (that's why it looks similar to a CX truck but it's not as good). The only thing I can think of that could help is replacing the stock bushings with softer ones to make it lean more even if you tighten the kingpin nut.
I have that board,you might need to replace the nut.also i filed parts of the truck so it has a much better turning circle,rides great now
Steve, is it worth to check Cris Mills surf skate program? Thanks!
Nope.
Will surf wax work in the pivot cup? I mean I’ve never heard of that other wax you say is a household item lol
Not sure on that because I don't know what's in surf wax. It's probably not a big deal and will work just fine.
Surf wax is sticky so proberbly make it worse,just use a candle wax
Hi Steve, @markthelandlocked surfer advised my to ask you this. I was horrified to find out that the kingpin on my new carver c5 trucks actually sticks out so far that it can hit the coping when doing carve grinds. Have you found anyway to inverse the kingpin?
Yep! czcams.com/video/UuGLIYRT3i4/video.htmlsi=0kHqscNt8mmuGz3u
do i need to purchase a surf skate to learn or can I get the water born surf kit and install on my long board, I am new on this surf skate . what is your recommendation, thanks for your advise, god bless
You can definitely start with a Waterborne on your longboard! It's a great way to start.
Hi there, can candle from paraffine wax be used to get rid of squeaking?
Yep.
Hey man, how you doing? I have a cx carver for a while, loosened the truck, but I dont know if I should do the same thing whith the back truck... how do I know if it is properly loose? because of course it should not be loose as the front truck
That's how I ride it, but it's just personal preference and something you have to play with to dial in for yourself.
excellent - ive been surfskating for 10 days now.
Which wheels should begginer use? I don't feel secure yet to get the hard ones, because of speed they may help generate? I bought used YOW pyzel and need to change them
Use whatever you have to start with. Why do you think you need to change them?
Hey sorry for the Question. But where can I find the video for the Carver C7? Thank you!
Here you go, my friend: czcams.com/video/fZDiAIZiINY/video.html
had a question. I want larger wheels without wheelbite. So I thought putting a spacer betweent track and board to accomplish just that. Did you ever try spacers and can tell how the higher stance affects the ride.
Of course! All the time. I'll be doing a video soon on wheelbite.
Best thing to do in my opinion is add a riser on both trucks. On all my stock boards I got wheelbite, even with the stock wheels. I do ride all my boards very loose, bushings and springs. So I added 1/8 riser pads to all my boards. I really like the Paris 1/8 riser pads as they perfectly fit a YOW Meraki truck, better than the typical rectangular pads. Benefit of just putting riser pads on all boards is that you can also experiment with larger wheels. I have also tried 1/4 riser pads, but that wasn’t necessary for wheelbite. I wanted to try 85mm Orangatang wheels😂. There is a slight effect on riding style, the board leans over a bit easier. You can compensate for that by slightly tightening the bushings. Other way to void wheelbite is to use harder bushings, different washers etc.
I wonder why they dont put bearing spacers in these?
The only subject you don't seem to have covered is skating surfaces. Am I wrong?
The front bushing on my CX slips out of the truck when I make tight turns. I can keep riding it normally but I don’t think it’s good for the bushing. What can I do about it?
It's not that it's bad for the bushing, but rather it's bad for the truck itself because you'll start grinding metal on metal. I'd have to see it to know what the problem is.