I'm mixed on layered armor while it adds complexity, I think it becomes too much of an inventory management game. At least for a kleptomaniac like me who wants to keep spares even though I know my brothers have better or equal gear. I think cutting down on layers or a having more "set" gear is great. Set gear being something like the Adorned armor set from an Oathtaker or the Lindwurm Slayer starting gear.
I quit League of Legends and now I'm playing a lot of Battle Brothers, and I am able to keep a much more healthy sanity. For this I thank the lord each day. Btw your videos are really good :))
The best advice I can give for early start (and not in this video) is dogs. It cost 250-350, it doesn't increase the encounter difficulty, and when you're lvl 1-2 it's basically a second bro you throw out of your pocket when you need, and you can have as much dogs as you have bro, so you can virtually double the team strength on battle. I never use them on start of battle or easy fights, but if you were unfortunate to go in a bad fight, they're the ultimate game saver of this game. I cannot count the number of almost dead bro I saved with few dog drops at the right time
Dogs can be a good emergengy distraction or a help to chase down fleeing archers and such. I'm not the biggest fan of dogs as a increase in combat strength as they die rather easily and give free confidence to enemies. But in a pinch they can be helpful :) Thanks for the two cents.
Also don't forget contract and non contract enemies and locations scale completely differently and don't be afraid to clear enemy camps close to civilization in the early game as they very often have great loot aside on top of whatever armor and weapons you loot. Also chance for named items which in the early game can be the difference between a failed run and a God run
Glad to be back :) Happy to hear you're enjoying the VODs too. I do have a second channel that stores all my VODs (but I am slow to keep it up-to-date) Link: czcams.com/users/TheIndomitableSnowmanLive
I really love how you preach our lord and savior nets. I've recently started playing the game. I got about 150 hours in! Ever since I've been equipping nets and hitting them with alps and big targets I fell in love with them.
Nice visual, audio edits. Well rounded & important tips for new players Would like to add a justification for taking Follow the Tracks during the early game: Its easy as long as you read where the tracks are located from town, then attack them during night to min max risks from ranged attacks, also enemies dont engage you and might not run away too far, most of the time. Plus the enemy in the open field is more likely to rush you compared to those in their base (Bandit hideout quest), wasting their fatigue while allowing you to seek & secure some highground. Also, best advice @12:32
Id say most enemies in legends are kinda same difficulty even on legendary difficulty. There were times when each goblin and spider had nimble, each zombie had nine lives (and they get another after each resurrection), that was pure hell. The hardest now are probably barbarians, in midgame they spam with chosens and armoured trolls, white direwolves are crazy, and lindwurms and stollwurms are absolutely disgusting, dont ever try to fight them, they gonna make you insane even when all your roster is 50+ mdef, 110+mskill and 300\400 armour.
Yeah, over time enemies have increased in threat/strength and decreased (depending on the patch). (and yes, nimble spiders/goblins were rough, and nine-lives zombies were hell...) Nowadays, the mid game barbs can be rough, and the end game groups of big boys like lindwurms & unholds too. This guide is more focused on the early game though, so being wary and avoiding most 'unfair' enemies is definitely recommended :)
I'm glad I found this video because I found one of your videos randomly a bit ago and it got me interested in Battle Brothers... and then I found out because I've only absorbed your videos on the game I somehow am terrible unless playing Legends mod, so good on you for taking responsibility I guess :P
I lost so many companies, lol. You always remember your first team of rag-tag troops with random permanent injuries. My best dude had survived with one hand, one eye, and no nose. They all died to undead, but man, I was hooked on this game. I have lost my fair share of sanity in this game.
I'm playing with this and the stronghold mod. It gives so much content and options to play around with. I got a pickpocket as a sort of meme because I wanted to create a knife br- I mean, sister. She's sitting at 99 melee attack when a knife is equipped and from dexterous (training), 180/215 armor, 75 hp, 73 fatigue WITH armor, and 79 MD with 42 RD (with dodge and legendary southern shield), beserk, fast adaptation, battleforged, and fearsome. AND SHE'S ONLY LEVEL 12 (Every 5 levels after 10, your brothers and sisters get another perk point). She never gets hit - ever. Memes are funny, but memes are scary when they work. Furthermore, it honestly makes you have to think about whether you want to take battle sisters over battle brothers too. I have to say I ended up with an almost split between the two (currently 11 battle bros with 13 battle sisters with several more in the stronghold), but I get more pleasantly surprised from the battle sisters stat wise than the bros. Guaranteed baseline extra fatigue is no joke. Qiyans can also be super busted depending on your rolls too.
Glad to hear you're enjoying the 'battle sisters' aspect of the mod (and the lovely perks that can get you some nice defence haha) Hope your knife bro goes far!
Thank you for the guide. Battle Brothers is a very interesting game, but above all, this particular mod caught my attention due to the armor layer system. I loved that in Kingdom Come: Deliverance, and I couldn't find a similarly well-executed system in other games until I came across BB Legends.
Not a big fan of layered armor. But that's just because i dont like inventory managing that much. The mod is pretty fun, but i think its worth mentioning that those "go hunt hexes, ghosts and night creatures around x town" are a trap. Complete waste of time and i avoid them every chance i get.
Understandable about the layered armour, it really does slow the game down and keep you in your inventory for much longer trying to organize things. Despite the gripes, I think layered armour is invaluable to the gameplay of legends mod. The flexibility of tailoring armour sets for builds (and fashion ofc haha) is soemthing I couldn't live without. Yeah the hunting quests are pain and I avoid them almost all the time :)
I often came across user modifications to different games and fell into traps like: - some bugs or were realized ideas that were not very valuable. This modification legend is a full-fledged development of the ideas of the game developer himself or is it a subjective offshoot?
Is there a guide for armor layers? As soon as I got 10+ bros I just cannot memorize all their layers and cannot really tell which layer is better without re breaking those layers from all my bros and comparing all bunch of layers together one by one😂
The latest legend build is 16.1.14 I usually play the latest, or very close to the latest (depending on stability and the other mods I'm using in the playthrough)
Hey the only thing holding me back from playing this mod. Is achievements. I like those stimmys and I’d say I’m a above average player now. Would I still gain achievements. If I played legends?
Yeah I don't think it messes with achievements. Matter of fact I don't think any mods do. I just downloaded mods (including legends) for the first time the other day and have gotten a few achievements in that time.
I usually recommend newcomers to the game (and mods) to try out vanilla first to get a less complex introduction to the game. The modding scene focuses on adding extra content (mainly complexity and options for gameplay) and the base game is unforgiving and complex all on it's own. People in my community have dived right into mods and enjoyed, and others have done the vanilla trek first, so it's personal preference (I just make sure people don't get too overloaded with builds, enemies, and content IF they don't want to be overloaded) :)
the RNG in legends mod is even more crazy me: 95 vs 99, 87 vs 91, 85 vs 90, all miss them: 31 vs 12, 15 vs 7, 44 vs 32, all hit hmm...that's I never play ironman mode, RNG cheat me, I use S/L to cheat back.
Haha, understandable. It's a rather unforgiving game most of the time. Strategy and game knowledge gets you far and it is enjoyable, but the game doesn't hold your hand and even with close to 2k hours, I'm not immune to it's pains and frustrations :p
My best advice for having an enjoyable and non- painful experience is to just cheat. Use bro editor and give yourself modest to OP bros and have fun. The RNG in this game is brutal; I'm masochistic, don't get me wrong, but this game doesn't even have the courtesy to spit before fucking you
Your not masochistic if you use bro editor. Editinf the best bros is easy/cheat mode. In Legends its allready possible to see the stars when you use try out which is allready quite a bit easier compared to vanilla. Broeditor almost destroys the intention of the game devs, but ofcourse everyone should do whatever their personal preference is while playing single player games :)
@@TheIndomitableSnowman About 1500 hours sunk into it, and about half that time on the discord. They added a bunch of stuff yes, new skills, new classes, equipment, etc etc which is great!...and then systematically went about nerfing pretty much everything that allowed you to get ahead or even stay at an even keel. The mod is made by grognards, for grognards and encourages meta builds even moreso then the base game. Back before there were all the expansions it was better, but the expansions filled holes in the base game quite well.
@@rpscorp9457 I appreciate you putting at least some explanation to your blunt opinion. I can't say I agree, but that's ok. I have close to 1500 hours with the mod myself and have enjoyed the game on increasing difficulty over the years without feeling like I ever needed to be 'meta'. Each to their own, but sad to hear you don't enjoy the mod anymore.
@@TheIndomitableSnowman Np sir:) I do enjoy the mod, all the new additions etc. Up until ~mid game. Then there are just huge difficulty spikes.. Perhaps thats changed in the last year or so, but yeah..in 2020 it was a terrible experience.
@@rpscorp9457 Maybe you should have started with "I'm 2 years out of the loop" instead of "this mod sucks now compared to the base game and that the devs are idiotic" I 100% know that the ongoing development of this mod has been rough/shaky at times and bugs and content has shifted over time. However, almost all of the changes have pushed this mod forward into an enjoyable experience for the community at large. Gotta remember it's an ambitious project for a community and it's a bunch of dedicated modders who are freely donating their time and effort to make this mod fun and functional.
The layered armor is the best addition imo.
Layered armour is amazing, and adds so much depth for such a 'simple' mechanic.
Definitely one of the best aspects of legends!
I'm mixed on layered armor while it adds complexity, I think it becomes too much of an inventory management game. At least for a kleptomaniac like me who wants to keep spares even though I know my brothers have better or equal gear. I think cutting down on layers or a having more "set" gear is great. Set gear being something like the Adorned armor set from an Oathtaker or the Lindwurm Slayer starting gear.
I quit League of Legends and now I'm playing a lot of Battle Brothers, and I am able to keep a much more healthy sanity. For this I thank the lord each day. Btw your videos are really good :))
EVEN THOUGH MY BROs KEEP DIEING TO THE DUMBEsT sHIT
Glad to hear it! League is a rough one to keep sane on (then again, BB's rng is pretty rough too lol)
Also glad you enjoyed the vid :)
@@TheIndomitableSnowman yup, league is a much lower level of hell xd
King
Bro
If you find Battle Brothers to be keeping your sanity you were in a whole new level
Hahahahah
The best advice I can give for early start (and not in this video) is dogs. It cost 250-350, it doesn't increase the encounter difficulty, and when you're lvl 1-2 it's basically a second bro you throw out of your pocket when you need, and you can have as much dogs as you have bro, so you can virtually double the team strength on battle.
I never use them on start of battle or easy fights, but if you were unfortunate to go in a bad fight, they're the ultimate game saver of this game. I cannot count the number of almost dead bro I saved with few dog drops at the right time
Dogs can be a good emergengy distraction or a help to chase down fleeing archers and such.
I'm not the biggest fan of dogs as a increase in combat strength as they die rather easily and give free confidence to enemies.
But in a pinch they can be helpful :) Thanks for the two cents.
Also don't forget contract and non contract enemies and locations scale completely differently and don't be afraid to clear enemy camps close to civilization in the early game as they very often have great loot aside on top of whatever armor and weapons you loot. Also chance for named items which in the early game can be the difference between a failed run and a God run
Very informative! You forgot to mention how important it is to always have a 3-headed flail user in your party though!
3-headed flails are the best :)
I'll do what I can to endorse them as well haha
Glad to see you back and kicking it off with a useful guide. Really enjoy your videos and excited to see what you do next!
Thanks and glad to be back!
Happy to hear you liked the guide :)
Good to see you back! Have been watching your twitch vods but they only save so many before being auto deleted 😔
Glad to be back :) Happy to hear you're enjoying the VODs too.
I do have a second channel that stores all my VODs (but I am slow to keep it up-to-date)
Link: czcams.com/users/TheIndomitableSnowmanLive
Dude, you are the best BB youtuber out there. I just found your channel and all I’ve seen is consistent quality. Keep up the great work man
Much appreciated for the kind comment
I really love how you preach our lord and savior nets. I've recently started playing the game. I got about 150 hours in! Ever since I've been equipping nets and hitting them with alps and big targets I fell in love with them.
Nets are truly the way of life. Live long and net always brother ✌️
Glad to hear you're having fun with the game too!
Nice visual, audio edits. Well rounded & important tips for new players
Would like to add a justification for taking Follow the Tracks during the early game: Its easy as long as you read where the tracks are located from town, then attack them during night to min max risks from ranged attacks, also enemies dont engage you and might not run away too far, most of the time. Plus the enemy in the open field is more likely to rush you compared to those in their base (Bandit hideout quest), wasting their fatigue while allowing you to seek & secure some highground.
Also, best advice @12:32
Thanks man :) glad you enjoyed the vid.
Yeah follow the tracks usually allows you to pick the terrain (if you can chase them well) which is nice :)
Id say most enemies in legends are kinda same difficulty even on legendary difficulty. There were times when each goblin and spider had nimble, each zombie had nine lives (and they get another after each resurrection), that was pure hell. The hardest now are probably barbarians, in midgame they spam with chosens and armoured trolls, white direwolves are crazy, and lindwurms and stollwurms are absolutely disgusting, dont ever try to fight them, they gonna make you insane even when all your roster is 50+ mdef, 110+mskill and 300\400 armour.
Yeah, over time enemies have increased in threat/strength and decreased (depending on the patch). (and yes, nimble spiders/goblins were rough, and nine-lives zombies were hell...)
Nowadays, the mid game barbs can be rough, and the end game groups of big boys like lindwurms & unholds too.
This guide is more focused on the early game though, so being wary and avoiding most 'unfair' enemies is definitely recommended :)
I'm glad I found this video because I found one of your videos randomly a bit ago and it got me interested in Battle Brothers... and then I found out because I've only absorbed your videos on the game I somehow am terrible unless playing Legends mod, so good on you for taking responsibility I guess :P
Glad you're enjoying the content and the game itself :)
As someone who got back into the game this has helped me greatly if and when i start legends.
Glad to hear it :)
Hope you'll give legends a try when you're ready and that you'll enjoy it too!
I like playing with town destruction activated, doubles the pain
I lost so many companies, lol. You always remember your first team of rag-tag troops with random permanent injuries. My best dude had survived with one hand, one eye, and no nose. They all died to undead, but man, I was hooked on this game. I have lost my fair share of sanity in this game.
Thank you for this, Battle Brother! Cheers from deeeep in the Mtns of NY
No worries & glad to help :)
I'm playing with this and the stronghold mod. It gives so much content and options to play around with. I got a pickpocket as a sort of meme because I wanted to create a knife br- I mean, sister. She's sitting at 99 melee attack when a knife is equipped and from dexterous (training), 180/215 armor, 75 hp, 73 fatigue WITH armor, and 79 MD with 42 RD (with dodge and legendary southern shield), beserk, fast adaptation, battleforged, and fearsome. AND SHE'S ONLY LEVEL 12 (Every 5 levels after 10, your brothers and sisters get another perk point). She never gets hit - ever. Memes are funny, but memes are scary when they work.
Furthermore, it honestly makes you have to think about whether you want to take battle sisters over battle brothers too. I have to say I ended up with an almost split between the two (currently 11 battle bros with 13 battle sisters with several more in the stronghold), but I get more pleasantly surprised from the battle sisters stat wise than the bros. Guaranteed baseline extra fatigue is no joke. Qiyans can also be super busted depending on your rolls too.
Glad to hear you're enjoying the 'battle sisters' aspect of the mod (and the lovely perks that can get you some nice defence haha)
Hope your knife bro goes far!
Thank you for the guide. Battle Brothers is a very interesting game, but above all, this particular mod caught my attention due to the armor layer system. I loved that in Kingdom Come: Deliverance, and I couldn't find a similarly well-executed system in other games until I came across BB Legends.
this video is very well edited
Thanks! Glad you liked the edits :)
if only i saw this before my save file got wrecked. rip my scalling begger
Oof :( I definitely lost a bunch of saves before I got the "more auto saves" mod too :(
But from here on, you're set :)
Thank you for helping me install Legends and for this guide!!
Happy to help and that you found the guides useful :)
We love you Snow
Man I missed you ;P
Happy to be back and thanks for missing me :)
For anyone interested, there is a mod which is really fun to use with legends, it let's you found your own castle!
What is it called?
Stronghold
Don't rush camp upgrades but...
Training upgrade is really worth the money bro
Where can I find that More Auto Saves mod? Been really enjoying the guide, though! Helped me out a bunch so far!
I forgot to add it to the description, soz.
Here's the link (and I've updated the description)
www.nexusmods.com/battlebrothers/mods/389
@@TheIndomitableSnowman Thanks, friend!
Me love a Snowman legends video :)
Thanks :)
Not a big fan of layered armor. But that's just because i dont like inventory managing that much. The mod is pretty fun, but i think its worth mentioning that those "go hunt hexes, ghosts and night creatures around x town" are a trap. Complete waste of time and i avoid them every chance i get.
Understandable about the layered armour, it really does slow the game down and keep you in your inventory for much longer trying to organize things.
Despite the gripes, I think layered armour is invaluable to the gameplay of legends mod. The flexibility of tailoring armour sets for builds (and fashion ofc haha) is soemthing I couldn't live without.
Yeah the hunting quests are pain and I avoid them almost all the time :)
Always prefer videos where the creator actually knows what they are doing.
do you still recommend not picking ironman? any new way to protect your save?
Disappears for two months
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Returns with an awesome guide
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The Indomitable Chad
Haha, IndomitableChad has a good ring to it :P
I'm glad to be back and will work on more guides too :)
Random solo start is always my choice
I often came across user modifications to different games and fell into traps like: - some bugs or were realized ideas that were not very valuable. This modification legend is a full-fledged development of the ideas of the game developer himself or is it a subjective offshoot?
Nice
Is there a guide for armor layers? As soon as I got 10+ bros I just cannot memorize all their layers and cannot really tell which layer is better without re breaking those layers from all my bros and comparing all bunch of layers together one by one😂
Armour layers can be rather complex, I don't have a guide for it yet soz.
Hopefully I'll get to make one in the future :)
What version do you play ?
The latest legend build is 16.1.14
I usually play the latest, or very close to the latest (depending on stability and the other mods I'm using in the playthrough)
Hey the only thing holding me back from playing this mod. Is achievements. I like those stimmys and I’d say I’m a above average player now. Would I still gain achievements. If I played legends?
Yeah I don't think it messes with achievements. Matter of fact I don't think any mods do. I just downloaded mods (including legends) for the first time the other day and have gotten a few achievements in that time.
Me a total 'Pro' , who 'never' lose a Bro because of my insane, save not worse luck then snow won't need something like these nets xD
Haha, I'm happy to hear your luck needs no nets (I am not in the same pool of luck though...) XD
@@TheIndomitableSnowman would be happy if it was better then yours, you saw my luck in our ftk run xD
Would you recommend this mod before playing vanilla?
Same question I have too 🥹
I usually recommend newcomers to the game (and mods) to try out vanilla first to get a less complex introduction to the game.
The modding scene focuses on adding extra content (mainly complexity and options for gameplay) and the base game is unforgiving and complex all on it's own.
People in my community have dived right into mods and enjoyed, and others have done the vanilla trek first, so it's personal preference (I just make sure people don't get too overloaded with builds, enemies, and content IF they don't want to be overloaded) :)
the RNG in legends mod is even more crazy
me: 95 vs 99, 87 vs 91, 85 vs 90, all miss
them: 31 vs 12, 15 vs 7, 44 vs 32, all hit
hmm...that's I never play ironman mode, RNG cheat me, I use S/L to cheat back.
good old one skull difficulty contrcats... send me one day 2 against 1 witch and 2 unholds :) this is fine
Yeah... hexe fights like being rather unfair lol
Not sure if any early-game party could stand a chance :(
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I was looking to get this game but i think im just gonna skip and watch gameplay instead xdd
Haha, understandable. It's a rather unforgiving game most of the time. Strategy and game knowledge gets you far and it is enjoyable, but the game doesn't hold your hand and even with close to 2k hours, I'm not immune to it's pains and frustrations :p
My best advice for having an enjoyable and non- painful experience is to just cheat. Use bro editor and give yourself modest to OP bros and have fun. The RNG in this game is brutal; I'm masochistic, don't get me wrong, but this game doesn't even have the courtesy to spit before fucking you
Your not masochistic if you use bro editor.
Editinf the best bros is easy/cheat mode. In Legends its allready possible to see the stars when you use try out which is allready quite a bit easier compared to vanilla.
Broeditor almost destroys the intention of the game devs, but ofcourse everyone should do whatever their personal preference is while playing single player games :)
Yeah dont...this mod sucks now compared to the base game. Devs are fairly idiotic as well.
Bold statements. Do you have any reasoning behind this?
@@TheIndomitableSnowman About 1500 hours sunk into it, and about half that time on the discord. They added a bunch of stuff yes, new skills, new classes, equipment, etc etc which is great!...and then systematically went about nerfing pretty much everything that allowed you to get ahead or even stay at an even keel. The mod is made by grognards, for grognards and encourages meta builds even moreso then the base game. Back before there were all the expansions it was better, but the expansions filled holes in the base game quite well.
@@rpscorp9457 I appreciate you putting at least some explanation to your blunt opinion.
I can't say I agree, but that's ok. I have close to 1500 hours with the mod myself and have enjoyed the game on increasing difficulty over the years without feeling like I ever needed to be 'meta'.
Each to their own, but sad to hear you don't enjoy the mod anymore.
@@TheIndomitableSnowman Np sir:) I do enjoy the mod, all the new additions etc. Up until ~mid game. Then there are just huge difficulty spikes.. Perhaps thats changed in the last year or so, but yeah..in 2020 it was a terrible experience.
@@rpscorp9457 Maybe you should have started with "I'm 2 years out of the loop" instead of "this mod sucks now compared to the base game and that the devs are idiotic"
I 100% know that the ongoing development of this mod has been rough/shaky at times and bugs and content has shifted over time.
However, almost all of the changes have pushed this mod forward into an enjoyable experience for the community at large.
Gotta remember it's an ambitious project for a community and it's a bunch of dedicated modders who are freely donating their time and effort to make this mod fun and functional.