Southam Pedestrian 15th May 2024
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- čas přidán 16. 05. 2024
- [Edit] - PLEASE NOTE that I am calling the pedestrian a pillock for waking out from behind a parked car in front of a bus, which had to brake. I was not caused a truly horrific triggering event of having to slow a little more. I am not commenting on him upsetting me, which he didn't, but for stepping out in front of a bus with a crossing nearby.
[Original text] Walking out from behind a parked car, in front of a bus and a couple of bikes? He is far more spry than I was post-accident, but I would have used the adjacent crossing.
[Original text] Let the adverse comments begin! [Edit] I was unusually prescient about that!
[Edit] - for all the Highway Code [£4.99 from all good booksellers] wavers out there, have a look at the following in the current edition:
pp 6 rule H1 para 4
pp 9 rule 1
pp 10-11 rule 7 precis and parts A-E
pp13 rule 14. - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Does prefrontal cortex damage cause people to become riders or does becoming a rider cause prefrontal cortex damage?
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@remm952 - Thanks for the comment. Hmm, as the prefrontal cortex deals with things such as risk taking, I think you should be questioning the pedestrian's cognitive ability as he walked out in front of a bus from behind a parked car.
This is a pet hate of mine too.... it's doubly worse when they cross the road and then walk TOWARDS and past the crossing they could have just used!! 🤦♂
@Pyrothekilla - Thanks for the comment, to be fair he did walk away from the crossing rather than towards it. I have crossed adjacent to pelican/puffin crossings when the traffic lights are on red and there is noting travelling towards them and I can cross before the lights turn green, but I wouldn't have done this.
Imagine posting videos of everyone who displeases you as you go through life, surely nobody is that much of a pillock. On the other hand
@bigjobbies - Thanks for the comment,any films I post are just the highlights, if I were to post all the stupid and illegal things I saw when out riding YT would probably ban me for excessive content. There is other stuff on here as well as me being a miserable git.
There isn't any content, or at least public content on your channel, perhaps you can post uplifting stuff to balance my frequent exasperation?
Relax buddy. It's a nice day outside
@5wheels178 - Thanks for the comment, it wasn't half an hour later into the ride, it came down so hard I had to shake the goldfish out of the helmet when I stopped!
This attitude is why there is a needless war between different road users
@abt833 - Thanks for the comment. Do you mean my attitude? I explained in the desciption, which I edited after posting, that the pedestrian stepped out in front of a bus. There was no real issue for me apart from slowing. There wouldn't be issues on the road if people simply obeyed the rules and weren't in so much of a hurry. A pedestrian would lose any battle with a bus.
Confession time, when I was a kid of about 7 I did the classic run out from behind an ice cream van and got knocked over breaking a shoulder blade. Was the car driver to blame for my actions? No. I should have known better but ignored the rules. Was the car driver prosecuted? No. They did nothing wrong. Did my parents have a slot on a TV programme saying 'look at my poor innocent child'? No. I was solely at fault and even at that tender age could accept I was in the wrong.
You're in the middle of a town, it's up to you to prepare for people crossing streets. It's what people do in towns, you know. You could slow down for example.
@laetiziacoronet243 - Thanks for the comment, you will see from the film that I was travelling slower than the speed limit and could slow enough to let the pedestrian complete the crossing without using my brakes. A lot of blame is placed on drivers/riders of powered vheicles these days in the event of an accident. It shouldn't be the driver of the bus who has to take into account the pedestrian walking out, but the pedestrian should look after their own safety. For example using the crossing, not crossing behind a parked vehicle and not walking out into traffic.
Pressing the crossing button only to be standing there waiting for the green man to appear a minute + later gets a bit annoying
@weatherstationlytovchenko4794 - Thanks for the comment, there were already people at the crossing who had pressed it!
@@TheRantyRider Likewise re: commenting. I meant in general 😉
@@weatherstationlytovchenko4794 Cheers for the clarification.
He's an old man for goodness sake.
I suggest you read the updated Highway Code - with particular reference to the vulnerable.
@legrandmaitre7112 - Thanks for the comment, my HC is the expanded verstion and features these points:
pp 9 rule 1
pp 10-11 rule 7 precis and parts A-E
pp13 rule 14.
Yours may only have the last point of rule 146 on pp 57 in it.
The 4th paragraph of rule/advice H1 on pp6 is also worth noting.
Guy had plenty of time to cross the road regardless of the stick. Stop making a fuss
@SteveAngel-ns3qp - Thanks for the comment, as I have replied to others, it wasn't me he caused a problem for but the bus he walked out in front of.
An old guy crosses a road which looks quiet(ish) in terms of traffic when he started across. Maybe he miscalculated, but certainly not a situation where the guy should be berated. As others have said, this looks like a town centre and so people cross the roads without using the crossings and you should drive cautiously
@Ironbuket - Thanks for the reply, I am going to change the description so people look at the bus rather than where I was! Pedestrians also have duties to themselves and need to understand this.
@@TheRantyRider Why should they look at the bus, it’s miles away when he started across? I get he wasn’t looking at you when should have been. I get he was too slow across the road. I get your point about using only crossings. But people don’t use only crossings, this is not the US where it is illegal not to. We don’t know if the old guy had bad eyesight or was deaf or soft in the head. These are not excuses why we should give him a pass, but my opinion is: Coming across an elderly person, a young kid or dog in the road is not the same as having someone in their 20s walk out into a traffic whilst their head is buried into a phone. Maybe he genuinely just didn’t see you coming and thought that way was clear, people make mistakes. Looks like at the end of the clip some twat has blocked the entire road, but actually was it their fault or should the van have waited? Things aren’t always as straight forward as they seem
@Ironbuket - "Why should they look at the bus..." Because he should have been! A vehicle moving towards you will only get closer. Also note that the camera lens magnifies the distance between objects so the bus is closer to the camera than it appears, as is the pedestrian [the effect is less the closer to the lens].
If the man had bad eyesight or was deaf shouldn't he have been more inclined to use the crossing?
The car at the end was performing a turn in the road, this can be seen earlier on, personally I would have driven away from the parked cars a bit and swung it around in an entrance way a bit further up the road.
You ARE aware that pedestrians have priority over every other road user. He caused you ZERO aggro and the road was quiet. Jesus, if an old geezer 100 yards away triggers you so much, walk or get the bus.
@Cornz38 - Thanks for the comment, but if you notice it is the bus that he walked out in front of from behind a parked car, if I was driving the bus I would have called him worse. I was far from triggered, and too old to suffer from that youngsters issue, I was using the film to show someone being stupid.
@@TheRantyRider It is plausible the bus driver waved him out. The new rules are ill conceived but i know from my past job, if a motorist wipes a cyclist/ipodestrin out, irrespective of the cyclist/ipodestrian being 100% at fault, the motorist will face the full force of the law..
@Cornz38 - Thanks for the comment, I have had a frame by frame look at the original on a high zoom and I can't see any gesture from the driver so it's a bit of a conjecture.
A friend of mine has put it well "it's the insured party that will be found at fault", but the HC clearly states that everyone has responsibilities, It may just be that my copy has pages that are missing from other people's that cover pedestrians and cyclists.
It's Jeremy vine
@keithskegwin - I'm more Tim Vine to be honest.
I am disabled myself and only use crossings so i dont have to rush, There is no jog or hop skip and jump in me anymore. Crossings much easier
@user-wq1cf7ms5r - Thanks for the comment.
It's almost always old people that walk out in front of traffic, ie the people less able to avoid issues. Old people seem to have a built in sense of self entitlement, despite nearby crossings.
@pauldavies4870 - Thanks for the comment.
UK crime is adorable
@Penny-mk7fv - Especially the bank robberies by fluffy puppies.
Wait until you find there was no crime committed!
@bestbehave - Just to clarify, I didn't say or imply a crime had been committed.
I prefer not to interfere when people are attempting suicide.
@michaelstevens3479 - Thanks for the comment, nice to see people as heartless as I am.
It should be an offence for a pedestrian to cross within the zig zags but not using the crossing
@leylandlad - Thanks for the comment, perhaps someone from the US can share thoughts about their jaywaling offence.
I have always hated the idea of the American jaywalking. Drivers just need to stop with their entitlement. You don't own the road
@abt833 - My reply from earlier seems to have disappeared, so sorry if you get this twice.
The King actually owns the road, we just get to use it. I can't see in which way I appear 'entitled' posting a film of someone doing something stupid, which I have pointed out repeatedly is not walking in front of me, but the bus.
Is the bus driver following the rules of the road 'entitled'? They are doing their job and have to put up with someone wandering out in front of them. As per the amended film description all I had to do was slow, I'm surprised that I have had to point out to a lot of commenters that the bus was there.
From what I understand of jaywalking it is a bit of an odd one, but how many crossings have you seen with lengths of railing either side to prevent this occurance?
You're the pillock. And you know it deep down, which is why you tried to pre-empt your own defence at the beginning. Pillock.
@goodyeoman4534 - Thanks for the comment, can you explain your reasoning? Saw the pedestrian in plenty of time, already travelling below the speed limit, was able to slow without using the brakes. But the bus had to brake. I didn't post this as a 'look I nearly hit someone' but a 'look at someone walking in front of a bus'.
I actually pre-empted comments, not my "own defence" as there is nothing to defend, but people wil always chime in with 'you were on the road on/in a powered vehicle so it's always your fault for not doing the thinking for everyone else, look he has a stick so he may be disabled, so it's your fault' so mentioning that I have been in the position of being a bit stuffed for walking aswers that.
@@TheRantyRider The pedestrian is at fault ofc. But your attitude stinks. He's obviously an old man and didn't do it deliberately to wind you up or warrant being called a pillock. I think you're the pillock and need a lesson in manners.
@@TheRantyRider What makes you think the bus had to brake? The old fellow was at the opposite side of the road when the bus passed him
@goodyeoman4534 - Please see my other replies emphasising that it is the bus that he stepped out in front of that he presented the problem to, not me.
@v8pilot - Thanks for the comment, it's difficult to see because of the wide-angle view of the lens, but the but clearly slowed down after the pedestrian stepped out in front of it.
I knew Southam well. If it's the Warwickshire one? Though I've not been there for a good few years it still looks familiar. Unless all Southam's look the same? 8-\\...
As for the old fella crossing the road, no more than 30 foot from a level crossing. It's the sort of film you need to show kids in an infants school and ask them, "What's wrong with it?"
I'll guarantee that 95% of them will know that the old fella's being daft... _AND_ lazy.
@thezanzibarbarian5729 - Thanks for the commnet, it's the one in Warks alright, but it doesn't have a "level crossing" though 😉 !
No doubt if the bus had hit him [we were far enough away to only have to slow] the bus driver would have been blamed as it is usually the driver/rider who is held at fault these days - bring back the Tufty films!
@@TheRantyRider I was a proud member of the *Tufty Club* back in the 1960's and I also took my _"Cycling Proficiency"_ test and passed that too while at junior school too.
Those were the good old days. When boys were boys and girls were girls and if you saw a lady in a dress, you knew it was always going to be a real female ;-))...
I had best not mention my recent trip to The Rocky Horror Show then!
#Southam
#WhatDidYouExpect?
Welcome to Middle Earth, we have Orcs, 😄 🤣 😂 😆 🚶♂️ 🧠 🚫
Sorry, welcome to Warwickshire, we have Mercs........
@Craig-wp3pz - Thanks for the comment, but I think you meant Berks not Mercs.
@@TheRantyRider Berks in Mercs
@@TheRantyRider wankers in WARWICKSHIRE?
@Craig-wp3pz It's berks in beemers and jerks in Mercs!
@@TheRantyRider ahhh, so, does that make me a bus wanker? Or a Pain on a Train??
Dude, he's not obliged to use crossings. You are obliged to consider ped's safety
He didn't jump out in front of you, he didn't present any risk to you
I can ride safely around pedestrians without having a tantrum. Why can't you?
@bestbehave - Thanks for the comment, in reverse order
- I don't ride around pedestrians i slow as that way I can keep an eye on them.
- It was the bus he stepped out in front of from behind a parked car as I have explained in other replies.
- Pedestrians have a responsibility to consider their own safety as well, I'm soft, squishy and breakable, a bus is big and hard, so the bus will hurt me. He should think like that as well.
@@TheRantyRider so no problem to you at all, no problem to the bus driver,
What exactly are you whining about?
Whining? Nope, just posting an incident film, the bus driver had to brake, and in the past UK bus drivers have been prosecuted for causing injuries, the first of which I have heard of is in the 80's where a person fell as the bus moved off. If someone, elderly or infirm had stood in preperation to get off at the next stop and fell do you think anything would have been said to the pedestrian?
@@TheRantyRider no incident, so yep, whining.
@@bestbehave As per many previous comments the incident was for the bus driver and not me. I'm pointing out the actions of someone irresponsible, not whining.
Ooooh! nasty injuries TRR . I hope you are fully recovered . It should be illegal to cross the road within 100 yards ( old folk won't understand metres) of a crossing.
@brockett - Thanks as always for the comment and extra thanks for the sympathy. I am as recovered as I am going to be nearly seven years after the accident, which it detailed on the playlist below - and I really need to make the 4th and 5th part for this.
czcams.com/play/PLwhXRFkm6IBjIBHjvjFatDpVcTcYtu2hi.html
To be honest he looks brain dead anyway. 😂😂
@user-cr2yf1uy1r - Thanks for the comment, he seemed sharp enough, just not sensible enough.