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- The Buffalo Bills traded WR Stefon Diggs to the Houston Texans for a 2nd-round pick in 2025. Chris Broussard says this trade makes the Texans “horrifying”, and Nick Wright and Kevin Wildes discuss if Josh Allen will experience a regression in 2024 without Diggs.
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Bruh Nick Literally said nothing is going to happen to Rashee! This stuff is crazy, I think Rashee should be suspended minimal 8 games! They need to make an example out of this guy seriously!
Go to his pod cast what’s wright. He did a whole segment on it
Wright: "Cam Newton SB appearance" where he got completely crushed and played horribly.
Should be called What’s wrong with Nick Wrights podcast 😂
@@jordancarley4073 Seriously, this guy saw what Ruggs did and still said I need to have that same corvette so I can put other people in danger when I decide to drive like a jack@ss. Then ran like punk from the whole situation, pus e move. 4-8 games out, no doubt.
Nick "Lamar is great because of his running in conjunction with his throwing, while Josh sucks because I don't count his rushing" Wright.
I think it's the fact he leads the NFL in turnovers since he came into the league 👍😅
This offseason has been crazy and the draft is still 3 weeks away
This is what happens when Grim Reaper Mahomes comes to your town and takes your soul.👺👺👺👺👺
Josh Allen is about to feel what Lamar Jackson was feeling since he was drafted excluding last season cuz he had a rookie Zay. Lamar won multiple MVP without a pro bowl weapon or even 1000 yard weapon. Let’s see what Josh can do.
he only had 15 different 1st round WRs and first team all pro TE
Who were constantly hurt. @@borkoboban9663
@@borkoboban9663Name those 15 first round and their age. Go
@borkoboban9663 lamar won his first mvp with Willie Sneed and crabtree as his receivers.
Andrews a beast home boy
That Trevor subtle jab was hilarious 😂😂😂😩😩😩
Josh Allen vs Cam is an interesting debate. However I would love to see what Allen could do with Devin Funchess as his #1
Cam Prime was clearly better than Josh is now
@JoshAllenIsthenextElwaylmao @ Benjamin(who didn't even play in 15), Funchess, and Ginn. And I'm convinced fans just pretend whichever QB they're trying to argue against has a great O-line cause them tracks were trash.
@@jasonakinfolarin3147not even close
@JoshAllenIsthenextElway It's worth noting that Prime Cam carried an entire team to the SB and Josh Allen hasn't even sniffed that in his career.
@JoshAllenIsthenextElway 🤡
Objectively Nick is right he just enjoys giving the take a little too much. I just don’t like how they don’t factor in Josh maturing and just getting better
i mean Josh has gotten worse not better....
@@rudign I don’t agree
People really try to act like Cam wasn’t that guy 😂😂😂
He wasn’t….what did he do ??
MVP and then ran away from the ball in the Super Bowl. That’s it 😂
He punked out in the SUPERBOWL
One of the best ever just didn’t have a long career🤙🏿
Man! I’m sayin.. Cam was HIM
Josh Allen's 2020 was above and beyond better than cams 2015 every year since has been slightly better
People act like 90% of his rushing touchdowns aren’t vanity touchdowns a running back (certainly James Cook) could punch in 😂
He had 4 of his 15 rushing touchdowns within 3 yards of the endzone. Those aren't vanity touchdowns first off, and I promise you if james cook could have run them in the bills would GLADLY avoid using their 43 million dollar qb in goaline situations lol
LOL... Vanity touchdowns.
Touchdowns are touchdowns. How'd they get the ball to the red zone?
You sound silly.
@bethanygee6939 Compare James Cooks TDs with like Gus Edwards and you'll see why Josh Allen wasn't really in MVP voting discussions
@EZR725 if the bills could avoid running their superstar qb worth 43 million dollars a season at the goal line I promise they would
@@crustybs46I looked up the stats. Within 1 yd he has 6 tds. Within 2 yards he has 8 tds.
Within 4 yards he has 11 tds. 4 of his rushing tds came from outside the 5 yd line.
Nick is overly harsh on Josh Allen because he’s a Patrick Mahomes fan. Now you care about Passer Rating with Allen but not Purdy. Picking and choosing is crazy
No it’s about the reality of his game.. the entire segment from bru was praise to Joe Brady in pushing the run game instead of trusting Josh to make the right QB DECISION. Rather make it easy and run the ball.. “the path to success is handing the ball off”. Josh Allen is not to be trusted
(Chiefs fan biases)
did you really think he would bring it back against KC this past year at home in the playoffs.. chiefs fan here(biased?) felt no fear against him or Purdy .. felt it against Lamar, burrow, and Jalen in SB..
@@milliworkz7069 This is really hard to read. They should invest in better schools in KC.
@JeoJetsonmusic He's not harsh, Allen throws picks like he's playing for the other team and his team got better when he threw less.
@@billyggalso he was more afraid of the guy who scored 10 points against the chiefs than the guy who scored 24
Overly harsh on the most turnover prone QB in the league? Your opinion is like your music.
Prime cam better than prime josh
Nahhh 😂😂😂 Josh is the better QB and the better runner
@@TheJaJe. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Facts bro, Prime Cam actually carried a team to a SB and nearly won it all. That guy was electric, he was the undisputed best QB when he was at the top of his game.
Houston becoming scarier and scarier next season. I'm a big fan of CJ.
Being a Chiefs fan (proudly since the 90's, not a new bandwagon fan), only Houston and Buffalo had me genuinely nervous. It's crazy that other people don't see this.
@@bethanygee6939 cincy
fools gold i got them winning 8 games
I’m genuinely confused. Nick has Josh Allen somewhere between the 2nd and 5th best quarterback in football. But he talks about him like he sucks.
Hailee tax
Dak gets the same treatment... when you're elite but cannot win the big games, it's going to happen.
@@anthonyallencabreraLamar doesn’t get that heat on the show
He doesn’t talk about him like he sucks. He talks about him and the proper context.
If you actually listen to what he says he says everybody is constantly putting Josh Allen in the MVP discussion or Super Bowl discussion despite never showing evidence being close to either one that’s not saying he sucks. Philip was never MVP. Matthew Stafford was never MVP and they’re still great quarterbacks.
@sebastianzmijewski1282 because he has 2 mvps. Was on a pretty hot seat waiting to get signed. Also lost to Patrick Mahomes, aside from Joe burrow not a single Active qb has beat Patrick in the playoffs.
Josh Allen so protected they tried to vilify Stefon Diggs and protect and underplay Josh Allen’s underachievement for years even though they wanted and predicted Bills to win the Super Bowl 2 out of the last 4 years. Now we will get the answer who was the problem. Expect goal post movement
FACTS
Neither was the problem lmao what
Ahh yes 4 40td seasons is somehow under performing.
@@sebastianzmijewski1282How many TO?
@@sebastianzmijewski1282 how many passing TDs?
That’s actually kind of a crazy take I never thought of. Two of the most hyped up QBs one a 2 time MVP (even if 2nd was worst in over a decade) and other a MVP/SB favorite every year, their teams decided it’s better to run the ball and pass less. That should speak volumes but nobody wants to hear it. Great take!
One moment “they should trade diggs”, the next “the bills are not contenders without diggs”. Why is last year not proof that anyone on that team can go for 100 yards any given week when he’s throwing the ball. He doesn’t need a true WR1 to perform, just someone that has the potential to be one.
“Josh Allen is better than Cam Newton” is a prime example of personal bias overruling objective fact. Never has Allen’s ON FIELD play come close to Newton’s BUT because of how people feel about who Newtown is OFF THE FIELD they devalue what he did in College in the SEC with no help and what he did with the Panthers with none. What he did in those situations IS legendary!! Forever enshrined in a National Championship win and a MVP winning season that ended in a superbowl appearance. Josh hasn’t achieved nothing close to that!
Facts!
Hmmm
Allen wishes he had Newtons career.
@@NeverB_Gameover
Newton had like 2 good seasons in the NFL. Pump the brakes a little
True
Have they given a take on the rashee rice incident? I’m curious what nick would have to say.
Nah they haven’t yet
I would assume they are waiting for an official verdict/sentence/suspension/literally anything. Whats there to talk about so far? This isnt TMZ
nick did on his podcast yesterday.
go watch his podcast, talking about a multi car crash isn’t how you get views, why yall so hung up on this dang.
He talked about it on his podcast
Not having the threat of Diggs will have an impact
He wasn’t a threat during their win streak LOL
@@calebford6318 Because Allen wasn't getting the chance to throw more interceptions, that's not Diggs' fault.
@@bernyourhartdiggs takes a far step back and Allen still balls watch.
The Bills didn't have the threat of Diggs for the entire 2nd half of the Season, meanwhile the impact of that was the Bills going on a tear.
Obviously u didn't watch the playoffs games what threat was he
This was so frustrationg. It's like Brou was TRYING to not understand lol
Why do they pretend that Daboll wasn’t there in 2018 and 2019?
Sucks to get rid of your best weapon but is worth it if your getting rid of your biggest hater as well
ur soft af
Completely agree...on the Huston side they just got a diva of a receiver for a young up and coming QB..I hope CJ doesn't feel the pressure to always target Diggs ...
that’s why the bills gone be dogshit bc of ppl like yall 😂😂
this just in: receivers are divas@@kristianvelazquez9025
I would rather have prime Cam than prime Allen
Am I crazy for taking prime Cam over Allen? I was kinda surprised at how they easily agreed on Allen being better.
Facts put Josh on the panthers back then won’t even get noticed
Its easy to overhype the guy that plays now. Ppl that played before get forgotten and their skills get forgotten
This show is so good.
I feel like Nick was making good points about Josh Allen. What is Brou holding on to?🤔
Never forget what Bill Obrian did
How is Josh Allen better than Cam with nothing to show for it with much better rosters, coaching, and front office? Doesn't make sense to me.
cAuSe He HAs tHe arM TAleNt😂😂😂
Completion percentage for one
@@corning1Yeah does that include in those completions Allen throws to the other team and Cam never had a WR like Diggs.
@@bernyourhartyah steve smith was just garbage right? Cam had 193 career pass TD to 123 career interceptions. Allens currently at 167-78. Math says Allen has a better ratio.
Same amount of SB rings
Stefon Diggs had less yards per game this season than Nico Collins and only 4 yards per game more than Tank Dell. How long until Diggs is whining about getting no targets as the WR3? I say Week 10 at the latest.
SD as the #3 in the Texans offense should get a lot of single coverage & if he can get open CJ will hit him !
You're about to see the difference in high IQ QB play. Enjoy those picks as Allen throws into double coverage.
@@prolific1518 triple as well. He does leave you wondering, "what the f*ck are you looking at." A guy so called as good as him shouldn't be throwing INTs that are just terrible 15+ times a year.
Nick just needs to admit Josh is better than Mahomes. Don't be afraid Nick.
Joe Namath only had a season with more TDs than INTs. One of which was his Rookie season.
this year's free agency has been insane. fun to watch. and laugh. a lot.
tf
they only spent two mins talking about the eventual Super Bowl champion Houston Texans 😑
He was on the field and you have to account for him I can’t believe that they didn’t mention that terrible
🔥
Cj Strouds ceiling is being what everyone thought josh allen was.
Nick is smart enough--and I love him, he's one of my favs--to know that just one stat (passer rating) is not the only way QBs produce. TDs, yards, rushing, rushing TDs, the stress they put on a defense, etc. Josh can be seen as the second best QB in the game, fairly at that.
Nooooo, Cam never had a elite receiver,so stop he's better than Josh. Look at what Josh Allen did before he got Diggs ,he was horrible
Did Cam have Smith for a while or was he gone when Cam was QB. Smith was a darn good WR.
Yeah he played with him his three season when he won rookie of the Year. Then they traded him to Baltimore the next season he had Devin futches and Ted Ginn
I knew Nick was going to go crazy when I heard this 😂
Josh had to play at Wyoming. Cam won a national championship. MVP in the league Josh ain’t cam
I agree with Nick
"so youre saying josh allen isnt great?" wow great deduction brou
He's not. Actually, what him play QB. It with scare you. Watch the highlights and you'll love him. The Bills proved last year take the ball out of his hands you win more. What other great QB can you say that about other than Jackson, I guess.
Judging a player by one stat is crazy...but it is Nick Wright.
Let's not forget what Allen did with John Brown and Cole Beasley. Look at those two guys career season stats.
I love Josh Allen. He's got good character focus, and his QB play is right up my alley. Physical with a cannon. Is he top five? I don't know. There's a lot of good QBs in the league right now. I just hope he doesn't back in real or pretend Glory. Just do you and enjoy the game. More running the football for the RB. fine. There's nothing wrong with being a good QB and not caring the whole team on his shoulders.
Nick hay what about the chiefs receiver haven't heard you mention him
Passer rating? How about QBR?
who cares
Cam had far less help than Allen
Fax
Nick’s Josh Allen hate is getting out of control
Cam better than Josh? Stop.
Maybe they will trade for Aiyuke
Josh Allen needs to make the Super Bowl to justify this talk of him being a top 3 QB
Making a superbowl is a team thing this is a dumb argument.
@@crustybs46 its not, bills fan.
@@crustybs46 its not stupid.
Seems like diggs disappears when they need him the most
One moment they should run the ball more with their backs to take some of the offense responsibility off of Allen. Now they do that and now the coaching staff doesn't have confidence in their QB.
The reason we know early on QBs now is because the QB position is easier to play than it used to be. Its entirely in the QBs hands and the defense is praying for mistakes.
8:45 - No. thats wrong. the talk about the ravens chiefs game wasn’t “take the ball out of Lamar’s hands” it was why did you not lean on what got you there in the first place running the ball, play action, and occasionally have lamar deliver in the pocket. it’s as if nick leaves out key details purposely
Josh Was 1st in most TD in the NFL last year
Josh has high highs and low lows. People love to forget the low lows for some reason. I still think he is one of the best in the league but we cant just forget about the downsides
Josh must have stolen his car. Seriously don't get his HATE for him. It's stupid.
So corny it’s like he knows him personally
Because everyone for years has said Josh Allen is the best QB in the league, said he’s MVP, said he’s an all time great, despite having accomplished basically nothing. But when Nick pushes back on it, he’s a hater? Nah.
Josh Allen has been the medias puppy for the last 4 years and has NOTHING to show for it 0 MVP’s, 0 SBA’s. Despite this for the last 4 years, every single year the bills have been the favorite to win the Super Bowl….why?
Nick is so offended that anyone would DAREE compare another quarterback to Mahomes
Bills have been projected to have the 2nd most wins since 2021. Only 1 combined projected loss more than the Chiefs who have been to 4 Superbowls and won 3 lol. The gap between his hype and his production is crazy and Nick has been the most accurate on him the entire time. He's still top 5 QB but the fact people really thought he was #1 despite several accomplishing much more was laughable
Josh’s passer rating may never be good, but he will always be in the top 3 in touchdowns, a much more important stat to winning games.
They are only horrifying if Stefan is happy. If he decides to be upset, he might just take the whole season off and just run out there like he’s in practice. This is why a bunch of other teams did not try to trade for him. There must have been some serious issues that the other owners and GM knew about.
There’s no chance Nick really brought up passer rating… moving the goal posts once again
It’s crazy how people think the only things that matter when evaluating QBs are super bowls (the ultimate team achievement in the ultimate team game) and a subjective, media-driven award. Who cares about data or metrics designed to measure individual performance when evaluating…individuals? We have all lost our minds regarding QBs.
Wait I thought Nick didn’t care about passer rating??
Nick 😂😂 blood oath😂😂
Allen excelled with Diggs and Davis basically invisible during the last 12 games of the year. With these two gone, a solid #2 now on the books, and a younger faster #1 on the way, I think he’s going to be just fine.
4:11 I mean technically he has 4 seasons above average. 16th is above average in the NFL
By definition the peak is the single most point of highest achievement. Which translates to not a stretch of seasons but one season at the most. And broussard persist in pushing a narrative as a given that Josh Allen's the top five quarterback as if it's not debatable. Well that's one man's opinion perhaps more than one but that's all it is is an opinion
8:08 is Chris re……????
I think Josh will be better this year without the dogs pressure mark my words
Yes, Nick, having a running game helps any QB. He treats other players so differently than "his guys." I just wonder how it would be if Allen was with Andy Reid and Mahomes had a defensive head coach his whole career....
Pretty sure Mahomes would have excelled no matter what, but Allen might be better in that situation.
@bethanygee6939 I'm not saying he wouldn't be good. Allen is very good. You can't tell me Reid hasn't played a part, though, and that Allen wouldn't be a lot better with Reid.
Khalil Shakir about to have a career lol
It means nothing for JA17
People be sleeping on the titans watch out
Love these guys but this cam disrespect us crazy
Josh Allen= modern day Tony Romo
I believe this trade was a blessing in disguise for the Bills and Josh Allen. While the Bills were a potent offense with Diggs at times, they had a hit or miss type mentality offense. The Bills have all the pieces on offense to be more dynamic and efficient. Few teams have a legit pass catching rb/te dynamic and the Bills have one with Cook/Kincaid. Just look at the Lions offense. That alone can compensate for a weak WR room at the moment. Anyone who has played the game of football understands this. Elite running backs and tight ends together in the passing game can draw attention and put pressure on linebackers and safeties which open things up more for average WR's. Do we need Stefon Diggs? Naw not really. Besides, he's regressed in his route running ability and seperation skills which is why we have moved on from him. Curtis Samuel provides that electric run after catch threat that this offense has been missing for awhile now. Lots of underneath stuff for him via screens, jet sweeps, ect. The Bills will prolly need to draft a legit outside WR in round 1 but it's prolly a lock at this point now. Allen will continue to be the best QB in the NFL and book another playoff birth this year.
I told y'all diggs was out the door when he got low yardage and less plays for him
They give Nick a whole segment to hate 😂
As a player I think Josh will still be excellent and hopefully without the turnovers
But as a team, they’ve got some problems to fix
Completely disagree with Nick and I think it’s cause his philosophy on qb’s is off. Most quarterbacks need development in general, even the ultra talented ones. CJ will probably be very good next season, but if he does happen to slip a little bit it wouldn’t surprise me. Guys put up way too much expectation on the quarterbacks shoulders when they are fresh in the league.
because his numbers down means he wasn’t affective? so what about the game plan the way they treat black receivers is ridiculous
The reality of Allen doesn’t line up with the hype. You’d swear he had 3 rings and 2 MVPs too.
I think the Bills got the better end of this trade. Diggs is older, declining, and has a bad attitude. And with how deep the 2024 draft is at WR, the Texans would have been better off drafting a WR and acquiring another defensive player through trade or free agency. But I do think the Texans are top contenders in the AFC (along with the Ravens) to challenge the Chiefs.
I know my boy Brou is sickkkkkkk 😂😂😂😂
Mcaffrey should have won MVP and dameco ryans should have been coach of the year
Go look at Allen before diggs.
I aint a Josh Allen guy as a patriots fan but the guy is clearly a top 5 QB in the league so i have no idea why Nick gets so annoyed with him...i can only assume its because other people like him and Nick thinks everyone should just rim Mahomes...Allen is just basically the Manning and Mahomes is the Brady of this era...great QBs and one has a better situation than the other...if you put Allen with KC and Mahomes with Buffalo i don't think it changes which team wins the most titles
Of course the bills needed to run more. They were close to the very bottom of run percentage. You can't throw the ball effectively if you don't have a run game. Football 101.
Nick says buffalo runs the ball because they don't trust allen. Is that why Andy Reid ran 20 plus times a game in the playoffs and superbowl because he don't trust mahomes? Makes no sense bro. You can make the numbers look anyway you want to
Tim Tebow 2.0
Worse take in the history of takes!!
Brou on Allen's nards hard
I don’t get the Nick hate, he criticizes Josh just like everyone criticizes Lamar with his actually achievements. No one wants to admit Josh Allen needs to be like Lamar to succeed but they glorifying his passing numbers. The same way they used the argument when diggs was eating they were losing when Allen and bills were running they were winning that’s an indictment of the qb as a passer not just the wr
Josh will have a great season not having to force it to a diva
Josh Allen. 221 total TDs in his first 6 years in the league. The most ALL TIME in that period.
What are we talking about?
Top 5? He’s the best player in football now, hands down.
What will these clowns say if he ends his career with the most of the most important individual stat you can have - TDs.
MVP is a popularity contest, who cares?
TDs don’t lie.
What’s a step back? 40 TDs?
Clowns.
My take on the entire Josh Allen discussion is:
Over the last 4 years Josh has been slightly overrated as a regular season quarterback. But Josh Allen in the post season is starting to get really underrated. He simply is an absoulte all time great playoff performer. All his passing stats are ridiculous and he is the Best running qb threat of all time up to this point in the playoffs. The Bills have underperformed but Josh Allen has done the opposite.
Numbers say otherwise. How many running QBs have won the SB? I make is easy on you, ZERO. Running QB want hide the fact you aren't very good at playing out of the pocket. In the NFL sooner or later you have to make plays from the pocket. Not bonehead plays like Allen.
Question is, did Diggs help or ruin the Buffalo Bills chemistry with his drama from time to time? Time will tell. Good luck Texans dealing with that after a "team first" year.
Josh Allen is not a top 5 qb lol nick is actually right here.
Nick, the Bills will beat your team at home, again 😂😂
Nick's just tired of the constant over hype of Josh Allen and I dint blame him, every year the media has him as a MVP candidate and good SuperBowl odds but they keep getting beaten by the Chiefs soo..