*HOUSE FIRE PPL TRAPPED - HICKSVILLE NY
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- čas přidán 28. 06. 2023
- At 9:30pm on Wednesday evening, the Hicksville FD received a report of a house fire with people trapped. One of their chiefs got on scene and transmitted a signal 10 with fire out the windows on the first floor with an elderly man trapped in the house. He was removed from the building by members. The fire was knocked down in about a half hour.
WHAT TYPE OF EXTERNAL LIGHTS do they have on their rigs? The power output and daylight color balance is awesome! Makes such a difference compared to standard High Output lighting usually equipped on trucks.
Great job getting the trapped ocupient out guys, and the quick knock down.
Thank you to all firefighters everywhere for protecting the citizens of your coverage area.
Great footage, and great job by the firefighters. Thanks for blurring that out, most people wouldn’t have done that
Nice work. There was an early attempt to put water on the fire where it first presented itself at the window but only for a couple of seconds. NIST UL data has proven to us that direct aggressive engagement to the fire where it presents itself provides the fastest knockdown and survivability for victims. Could have had water on fire much much sooner with faster knockdown had they engaged the fire through that window for a solid 30 seconds. Then transition to interior.
My thoughts exactly, I’m glad you mentioned the NIST data that shows the effectiveness of transitional attack. It’s 2023 let’s start using science to better ourselves
@@ChathamFireDeptfan the goal is to save lives. The best way to save lives is large water on fire as quickly as possible. 200 gpm makes very short work with little overall net water usage. Arrival to water on fire is the goal not demanding interior or exterior.
You should attack the fire from the opposite direction, going directly at it in front causes more damage to the home but also pushes the fire towards any potential victims!!!!!
@@NguageTrains Myth, per the scientists.
@@stevesecret2515 Nope as I’ve seen engine companies attack from the front and push the fire through the house. I was on a full time department for 39 years, north of Boston MA. Went through the arson rage years, and some groups that had fires when I worked OT hit it from the front, more damage was done to the home compared to fighting it from the opposing direction.
Before I even watch I pray that everyone is going to be safe!
Cigar in the mouth classic 😂😂😂😂
It's good to see some firefighters updated on the new NIST UL fire science talking about transitional attack, resetting fire to an earlier stage, cooling the inside environment by using a straight stream at an upward angle to the ceiling, saying u can't push fire which is all true. By knocking it down through that window first u are making it safer for the interior crews by cooling the inside & all that smoke is fuel which u are also getting rid of.
Anyone in here saying different u better update yourself on new fire science/behavior cuz if u are even a firefighter u are not trained to the new NIST UL standards!
Exactly. What a waste of a PERFECT transitional attack opportunity.
Nice rescue guys. Great Video
Amazed no one got on the roof 👍🏻
Nice work!
I don't know how they do it in NY, but somehow they always have tons of volunteers, and they are all quick responders and aggressive fire fighters that can put some paid departments to shame. They did good work here!
Most of the volunteers in downstate NY are off duty FDNY members.
Many people knock NY.,but they are not aware of the great things
A lot of states have dumb asses running the political sides but salt of the earth folks getting the real work done.
@@livzdave😂 I’m sorry I had to laugh at that. Good one. “Most” are off duty FDNY? Lol. Awe man that’s good. That’s some funny shit right there.
@@livzdave This is true. There was a firefighter who passed away not to long ago was a member on the FDNY but a volunteer out in Long Island
Great job. It is good to see firefighters aggressively going face to face with the Devil....and winning.
Nice work guys keep it up
I don’t know the entire situation here at all, so correct me if I’m wrong but I feel like with the amount of personnel at the start of the video you could have done VEIS through windows primarily the alpha-delta corner windows, and still went interior through the door as well leading to a faster primary search
Impressive job by the Hicksville FD. Aggressive attack!
@1:20 fire fighter walks by with a cigar in his mouth. 😅
Sweet work & Nice grab Fellas!
I like the dude on a smoke break already. 😂
How you didn't record the whole scene?
Great knock down and rescue guys
Nice footage!
A LOT OF FIRE SHOWING FOR 930 PM GOOD JOB
Where is the troll JB? Mr expert fireman. Maybe he hit the message?
Omg right!! 😂😂
Not to Monday morning quarterback it but it looks like the feels two lines run, why wasn't one trained on the active fire out the window and one the crew going inside?
Hit it from outside through the window, reset, then go in and finish up. Alpha Bravo was the seat of the fire. Everything starts getting better as soon as water is applied to the seat of the fire. Straight stream. Even a pump can make a difference sometimes. That being said, still a dang good job and aggressive fire fighting!
What is even more amazing is that you are a food warmer at Denny's.
@@RLTtizME that's my part time job. I'm a FF by trade. (30 years)
But if you want to come by Dennys on the A or C shift, I'll give you the grand slam. (Its on me) I'll also lecture your tiny brain on how to quickly knock down a fire from outside, then transition to interior attack. 👌
@@Tedd-E-Bare I read one of your free lectures and subscribe to the FF credo. Knock down the flames. Hose down the parts that didn’t burn and smash everything else. 👍
@@RLTtizME just about anyone can squirt water, but not just anyone one can do it when and where it counts most. That's a choice. Which one are you? I think I know 🤔.
@@Tedd-E-Bare Oh my ...you are a master water squirter. Effective water squirting ensures that maximum collateral water damage is inflicted on adjacent unfiredamaged property...in addition to the fire itself. You are so awesome...perhaps even exceeding your own opinions of yourself Fireboy. So here is the axiom.... 1. Squirt the fire. 2. Squirt everything else. 3. Smash what is left. What a lovely pile of debris. 4. Pat each other on the back. 👍👍🤡🤡
What Was The Causative Factor, And The Point Of 💥Ignition, 🔥How Many 10-45s ? Good Attack Coverage And Well Lit Up With Emergency Lighting 🚒 At The Fire 🔥Scene. Hope All The Occupants And The Brothers Are OK. 🙏🏼 Capeesh 👍🏻🇺🇸
That dude walking back and forth with the cigar looks like he has seen too many fdny videos 😂
😂😂😂 I thought that too ,classic
Hydraulic ventilation is an underused technique...kinda kool to see it in action there
Is this 29 9th Street?
Old school tactics. Letting fire gethotter and bigger while they get ready, when the could've steamed it from outside while getting ready from the outside.
No... that's not 'old school tactics'.
That's 'idiot school tactics'.
Believe it or not, back earlier in firefighting history, before the fog nozzle got big... fire departments used to use transitional attacks... water in the window first, knock it down, and then move in for the kill via interior attack.
We talk today about flow path control and transitional attack?
They were doing that in England a couple of centuries ago and it's documented... that denying air to a room that's on fire, until water is ready to flow, is a great way to control a fire and not let it flare up worse than it already is.
Transitional attack and controlling how much air we give the fire before we get water on it, isn't a 'new strategy'... it's an older strategy that's actually come back into fashion, because fire science research has TOLD us, that it SHOULD come back into fashion!
Outstanding job ny the Hicksville FD, FAST KNOCKDOWN!!
I'm surprised at the number of comments saying this was well done. This is a case study for how departments still rely on old school tactics.
TFrom this footage, this very clearly calls for a transitional attack. Nobody even thought to flow water through that window, and everyone was focused on struggling with the front door. You can clearly see how fast the fire is knocked down once water is applied. You can also hear guys just indiscriminately breaking windows, adding oxygen to the structure. And there are very clearly too many people crowding the front door.
We need to be reading our fire textbooks.
A town with the tax base of Hicksville should have a 3 person career engine staffed 24/7. These volunteers seem to have their shit together and are commended.
His house was on fire again today, Dec 21st. Sadly he passed away.
Yup. R.I.P.
transition that alpha side window fellas
Who on earth would name their town Hicksville? 🤨
Santa Claus is a real town in Indiana.
A hose line through a window is not a good idea in a confirmed occupied building. Especially a PD at night. ( good chance it's occupied) A line through a window from the outside will cause high heat and flame upon victims trying to escape while creating untenable conditions inside . Exterior to interior operations are mostly utilized in confirmed vacant or buildings showing collapse potential.First line through front door to the left and attack the seat of the fire all the while protecting main egress for occupants and firefighters. I am not critiquing this fire for no reason I want to share most important facts of fighting this type of fire that some day save a life.These people are volunteers protecting their community.They are doing a dangerous , hard job that most can"t or not do.Hose line through the window aside, They should be commented and always appreciated.-ed
10 seconds of water on the fire through the window, that's all that it takes to knock down the bulk of fire and make it more safe.
The fire is basically only venting out that window. If you put a line through it, where do you think you are pushing all of that superheated gas, smoke & steam? Straight into the rest of the structure you're about to enter.
@@hughman3241 In modern firefighting this is called transitional attack. 10 seconds of water knocks down the bulck of fire and reduces the temperature by hundreds of degrees. The idea that you are pushing the heat inside is old scool firefighthing. Nothing produces more heat then the flames itself so you need to take care of that. Only doeing this for 10 seconds makes that the amount of steam is not too much. It will be much easier to enter and extinguish the fire. Welcome tot 2023 !
@hughman3241 I highly suggest watching the UL studies on transitional attack.
Absolute urban myth.
@@hughman3241 and straight into the peple trapped..
Definitely Hick
No one is helping to remove that door! Really….8 people on a hose line.
I volunteer myself and hearing all these pass alarms go off absolutely pisses me off. My chief reemed us new assholes about letting our pass alarms go off. Pass management people!!!
Too much time on that screen door
Hur gick det med gubben?🤫
Not from where I'm sitting.
🌊🔥🌊🇺🇸
I was about to say it was stormy out and then i noticed those were scene lights.
holy crap those are some good ones
Good Stop.
Seems like too many people , it can be a good thing but in some incidents it can actually cause more bad than good
If it was a dumpster fire... yeah. Too many people.
Structure fire? No such thing as too many people. Especially if you're dealing with occupants in the building and an escalating fire.
Vent that roof boys, vent that roof!
vollys are very poor at truck work.
@@patrick9440 ...ya but it doesn't have to be that way, it all comes down to leadership. If you have turds in leadership your organization suffers. That reminds me of the old saying "The community get the fire service (or police) that they deserve". If nobody in the community cares....
Can I ask why this would need to be vented? I have only been on the job 8 years but I cant see a reason to vent that. The fire is self vented, the house is very small ( at least from what we can see in the video) and once the seat of the fire is hit, everything got much better. Also, from what we can see, the hole would need to be cut a decent distance away from the fire due to the flames blocking access to the roof above the seat of the fire. That is why I wouldn't have chosen to vent during the initial attack. I think a PPV fan would rid that house of smoke in a matter of minutes after extinguishment. ( vertical vent does work and im a proponent of it FYI). I genuinely ask you as a learning experience..... I am going to be a new officer in the near future and always look to learn other's perspectives.
1.21 sec a fireman with a sigaar 😠
Fuck door control. Who needs it lmao
Any update on the resident?
News 12 says the persons critical.
@@JB91710 How would YOU know??? You have NO idea of where the victim was.
@@JB91710the mouth breather making dumb comments again.
@@ffjsb
JB the Phony FF knows EVERYTHING 🤣
@@virgilhilts3924 Son, if you weren't so dumb, it would be easy to figure out that I actually do the job. Prove me wrong on anything I've said here. And nowhere did I say I know everything.
Was anybody in the fire
did he survive? maybe not. either way hugs and warm thoughts sent to him and his loved ones.
Go in the front door and put the friggin fire out.
Gotta love the loser walking around with a cigar... 👌
'murica's so great the firefighters have to get on their knees to put on their SCBA masks. That's so much better than a couple of simple clasps to attach the mask.
Why does everyone have to "take a knee" when donning a hood and facepiece?
I dont have to take a knee to put on my mask.........
@@323chemco right. You know that you're going to work so have your hood on and be buttoned up at least.
The sight of guys kneeling in the front yard getting their shit together whilst the structure burns in front of them is frustrating in the extreme. Get your mask and hood on before getting of the rig, if you know you’re on the pipe you should be ready to go as soon as you step off the rig. Hook up the regulator, take a big breath and get after it. Rather than wasting 30/40 seconds getting your shit together kneeling in the yard.
"Are the cameras rolling?"
How come no body broke the window for ventilation. V E S .. vent, enter , search
Because everyone wants to be on the line ‘going interior’, the victims don’t matter. And I think you mean VEIS..
It's already vented on the A & B side windows. The front door is open and making entry. Are you referring to the right side of A, near D? This call doing VES is not needed nor recommended.
would have been 4 alarms and a total loss of structure if this was just west of the county line
Which county?