How Bad is Torque Steer with a Tune? (FOCUS ST)
Vložit
- čas přidán 22. 04. 2018
- I have been getting asked a lot about how the torque steer is now that I have a tune on my ST. In this video I answer that question exactly.
Ford Performance Tune video: • Ford Performance Focus...
Music: forrestdel.bandcamp.com - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Torque steer is caused by the axle. One is short and one is long, the long axle twists more then the short one does so the longer axle "lags" in acceleration and the short axle gets the power before the longer axle. That's why it turned to the right because the short axle is to the left tire
Incorrect. Go do 1 minute of research.
@@JJsMessyBench no thats literally a basic explanation of torque steer...so im confused lol
research is for scientists, you mean "go try to learn shit randomly on google"@@JJsMessyBench
I was not ready for that transition @3:48
lmao. I would of done the same to the wife.
I like the jokes you throw in there. A lot of your videos have them and it sets you apart and is really funny. I binged watched about 20 of your videos. I went and test-drove an ST after watching them. For the amount of Creature Comforts you get I'm thinking of getting one myself
I just bought the Ford performance Calibration for 450 and im super excited to add it tomorrow!!!! thanx for the video reviews youre the reason I decided to go this route!
Torque daddy! Hahaha! I loves the picture of your st at the end of the vid. Your videos are kind of a big reason why I just picked up my ‘14 ST. Thanks for the killer content.
You got it man glad it helped! More content coming
I daily a Chrysler 200 with the 3.6l/6-speed auto (like in the minivans) on E85 (factory flex fuel tune) and did notice a difference in torque steer after replacing the factory 225/50TR18 Eagle LS2 tires with a couple sets of Z rated BFG Comp2 A/S and now a set of V rated Firehawk A/S, all in 235/50R18 as well as just turning thentraction control off on the hockey puck LS' it came with. While traction control and cheap tires don't help things any, just the length of the passenger side drive shafts vs driver side and different motor and/or diff mount will have an effect on FWD and some AWD vehicles. I also used to own a couple of the 80's Turbo Mopars (both built where the 200 was, oddly enough) and they would twitch around too, sometimes enough to scare the unsuspecting and occasionally deserving. One of the things that would cause it on those was that the distance between the diff and wheel on the driver side was much shorter than the passenger and the much longer 2 piece drive assembly would more easily twist like an anti-roll bar or torsion bar and absorb more of the power than left could then would take a hard right. Putting the harder Mopar Performance "racing" motor mounts in my Lebaron did help as well, since having the engine and trans shifting around would make things worse too.
i like the camera work - clever and funny @3.55
Same. The new ST and RS, if they are going to do one of course (RS).
That Jurassic Park reaction just got my subscription. In the market for an ST or older Si. Whichever I find first. Taking my Miata off DD duty. :)
hahaha glad you are subbed. I grew up on those movies and still love them. There is fresh news that just came out showing that Ford is discontinuing the Focus in the US. So the current ST is all we will have for a while along with the RS
Thanks for the video :) I drive a 2011 Ford Focus TDCI (2.0 Turbo Diesel). Interested with your tires but I think it would be so much for my car. I need your input guys
That FENG rips!
1:55 What it is like living in Phoenix. Dusty, dry, hot.
Yup I'm moving there around March 🙃
I know this is an old post , just came across it . I have a Focus ST on a 15 plate with a tune and have to say the torque steer is horrendous , damm right scary , it really is . I live in the UK and the roads are CRAP . not very often we find a road as flat as the one you are driving on in your video . If i accellerate while crossing over the white line in the middle of the road while overtaking , its dangerous , believe me its that bad.
Wish we had roads like yours .
I know you’re big on warranties, did you buy the dent and ding warranty through your dealership? If so do you know by any chance if it covers paint chips from rocks?
I did not buy that and I don't know if it covers that. My guess would be no but you can always ask.
I went from an 08 Subaru STI to a 2017 ST the Torque steer is really bad when you start from a stop if you hit the throttle too hard. Also tends to spin the tires easily I really miss the traction and control I had with the STI but I just didn't want to fork out another 40k for cheap hatchback that eats tires. You have to kind of really be mindful of the torque steer have a good grip on the wheel just can't punch it off the line without a good grip. If your rolling like 10-15 mph the torque steer is not nearly as bad its just bad from a stop.
My 2018 maxima torque steered horrible when my last set of tires were getting worn
Get an e30 tune from Torrie...Unleashed Tuning. I just got done with my 4th revision with him and the car absolutely rips...you won’t be disappointed.
The new ST
I had an LSD fitted in my ST. A Quaife.
Solved pretty much most of the torque steer.
I appreciate this knowledge. I just bought an ST and my trans is giving me 2nd gear pop outs :( so when I replace it I'll spend the money and throw in the Quaife
Try driving an RS with or without a tune aggressively. Opinion about torque steer will not be so passive. Torque mount and motor mounts upgrades are a must.
A dumb question, will torque steer happen in an automatic transmission car (with great power) and also in a Naturally aspirated car (both manual and automatic ones)?
Torque steer may well occur regardless of transmission type
@@jordanlazarus7345 cool
thanks man :D
Do you know if the 2017 st has stock motor mount issues. I've had my car almost a year and am curious if I should change that out. Thanks
It is improved since the '15 model I believe. It is now using the efocus mount, but there is still a lot of room for improvement. The Mountune one piece or CPE 2 piece are two of the best ways to go. I plan to install the 2 piece this summer.
Jeremiah Knox It’s the same mount that is on the electric Focus. I have the same mount (Mountune) as Ben and it makes a big difference in handling and wheel hop. Minimal vibration too.
had a dealer instal the mountune RMM on my 2018 ST about 3k miles ago and Its been great... very minimal vibrations at idle and vastly improved the torque steer
benjieswork4me... If you don't mind me asking what did dealer charge for install.. And thank you everyone for response
Jeremiah Knox shift the car fast from 1st to 2nd if the engine bangs on the firewall then you should change it out.
great video...i was so looking forward to this video. Glad that the Torque steer isnt too much of a big deal. Out here in UK, Ford has stopped production of the ST now - so there are a lot of dealer stock vehicles available at a great price. I am in two minds now - contemplating whether I should wait for the new Focus ST or pick up one now. Do you know when Ford is planning to launch the new Focus ST - end of 2018 or beginning of 2019.
The brake talk vector is not as present in sport mode because the traction control is wiched off what the talk vector control is trying to do what an lsd does when one wheel brake traction the brake is applied to that wheel but in sport mode both wheel can spin that why in sports mode you can smoke the hell out of your tyres
you need ad08r，my car is mountune mr300.The torque is slight.
2.2 Mondeo with 200ps->235ps tune (~500nm max torq). No difference either.
For me, torque steer is annoying when I do hard acceleration in 3rd/4th. It tries to constantly pull the car left or right. Can happen in 1st too. I am not saying it's something you can't control, but CAN be annoying. The tune did NOT affect the torque steer effect, it was already present the same way in the original ECU map. It also only happens if the ECU puts out the most power (you can feel the different stages. if the engine is warmed up, the conditions are right, the engine can do this super hard pull and that's where it happens.)
I have 17" rims with regular Continental tires, nothing fancy.
but teh torque steer is my favorite part :(
Have a 2018 Ford st enjoying it so far question do u plan to do a blow off valve or till your warranty expires?
Focus stealth st3 estate diesel 👍
I have got sad news. US ford is killing of the fiesta and focus st, but continuing in Europe. The focus was supposed to have a detuned engine of the focus Rs like in the ecoboost mustang.
I will have a video up on that topic in about 20 minutes
Torque steer is not an issue when a car is driven briskly but not as you would at a drag race. Drive like you are racing and torque steer will be the least of your problems
Drive the tune with no esc and tcs
Are there any tunes that can be used with 87-89? Even to just bump up power a little bit from stock like the Ecotec Trifecta tune. My GTP needs 93 with 400tq so I was looking for something a bit more economical lol
Yo bro, just subscribed, long time viewer. I’d smoke you on the track and on the course
Haha are you in phoenix?
@@Gjeebs are you in Phoenix? Ill be moving out there around March this year
I money wasn't a problem which tire would u get instead?
Michelin’s pilot super sport 4s
"No handed accelly" .. New RGBism lol
1:39
"Came on the car"🤔🤔🤔
Golf vlog! Let’s see it
As a speed 3 owner you gave me a heart attack when you started to accelerate without your hand on the wheel
Lol!!!
www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/2019-ford-focus-st-use-23-litre-ecoboost-engine that's a link to a motoring magazine in the U.K. hope you find it interesting
Kevin Parr thanks for link.
All the people complaining about it is all the Dodge owner mad because all they can see is the trunk
Torque steer was the main reason I bought an mk7 GTI over the ST. Even though it wasn’t Mazdaspeed 3 bad, it was still annoying to me. Even at stage 2 running e30, my GTI has zero torque steer.
Btw, when are you going to review an mk7 GTI. I know you drove the mk6, but the mk7 is a totally different animal. 👍
It doesn't seem like anything if you've owned a Mazdaspeed 3 before
Hahaha not the first time I’ve seen this comment
@@Gjeebs I bet haha. Had a 2011 speed 3 a few years ago and actually just got a 2018 ST last week and it's like going from a late model Civic to a Mercedes lol. So smooth and clean.
@@Gjeebs also, two things.. 1. You need to watch Doug DeMuro's review of the M2 if you haven't yet.. and 2. Do you know if/when the Ford performance calibration can be used on the 2018 ST?
I have seen both of Doug's reviews on the M2 and he loves it. The last time I spoke to someone at Ford Performance, they said they are working on it and hoped to get it out before the end of 2018. I'm guessing that hast happened yet? I would give them a call. @@garyshaeffer5349
@@Gjeebs Very cool. The M2 is definitely my choice on your pill you had. I really appreciate the info though man. On the Ford performance website, both calibrations show 2013-2017. I'll definitely give them a call. Keep up the great videos!
Well you have to have torque to get bad torque steer
I have 360 ft/lb ... I have plenty of it
Holy Shit! Bahahahahaha😜
10:51 of pure yapping🤦🏽