X-MEN 97 Episode 3 BREAKDOWN - Marvel EASTER EGGS and How Long Was [SPOILER]!?
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY RYAN
Happy birthday today is my little sister’s birthday also
I am phoenix arizon 😂
Why no frozen empire breakdown?
jean even says in the original series that cable is scotts son during a battle where one of the other x-men was about to attack cable and jean stops them
I love how Beast didn't really have a nightmare during the nightmare scene because his response was hilarious after seeing the monster on the elevator.
Morph really is the cameo king
Good way for them to bring in so many key players
The jeans saying " who are you without your memories' is sooo similar to the vision conversation in wandavision ,and yet so different.
Ship of Theseus
I'm surprised how mature the show is! Magneto getting cut, Goblin Queen literally using blood as lipstick!!
Sunspots demon mom getting head split open, with brains literally exposed! Or the freaky nightmarish looking demons in this episode!! I mean it's not TV-MA but wow!!
Don't forget the pregnancy and umbilical cord.
I’m a pregnant Man! 😃
They definitely know their audience! We're not kids anymore, this shit is radass!
Morph making fun of Rouge and Magnetos Danger Room bookings saying she's testing out her Stamina with the boss, 😂
A baby in that bad condition, very dark.
The way Cyclops talks about abandonment and then immediately abandons the baby is hilarious.😅
Lmao I was thinking the same thing 🤦🏽♀️😂
Felt so 90s. Love it
Hahahaha I was thinking the same thing. HILARIOUS 🤣
Bro had a whole monologue bout it and then left just secs after😂😂
I took it as the technovirus and the idea of having to send his "son" (who he feels conflicted about already) into the future to save him as being just too much to deal with! He just had to peace out for a min.
The animation on The Goblin Queen's energy was amazing. Does Nathan's teddy bear reminded anyone of Deadpool 2?
I'm actually glad that the writers were able to expedite Madelyne Pryor's decent into the Goblin Queen, it really reminds me of the idiom "hell hath no fury like a woman scorned". The moment Scott saw Jean, he immediately looked at Madelyne like he was questioning his life decisions.
Why doesn't Rogue just put on an inhibitor collar when she wants to be with Gambit... they have one when they freed Sunspot
I heard if mutant wear the collar for long time there might be side effects. This a theory.
In the comics, Rogue gets intense migraines whenever the inhibitor collar is on her. Most mutants have very bad side effects from it because it's suppressing who they truly are.
@cartercassidy5167 that may be true, but in the show there appears to be no side effects.
Why is still no one able to spell “Roque”. I mean “Rogeu”. I mean “Rouge”. Dammit…
i love that every single x-men fan worth their salt called out the Madelyne Prior twist the moment they heard Jean Grey was preggo
Pregnant.
The toy spoiled that :/
Everyone should know who Nathan aka Cable is
I had no idea going into the show. However, at a Game Stop I saw the X-Men 97' Goblin Queen Funko Pop holding a baby.
Ooooh....
Action figures were out before the trailers.
This is one of the best starts of any animated adaption. X-men 97 is so mature I was surprised I was watching this on Disney plus. Loving the resurgence of The Uncanny X-men. Watching this show every Wednesday morning like it was a Saturday morning from my childhood.
Bishop, "Cable", and Forge in one episode? Now I'm expecting Bishop and Forge in Deadpool 3. Those 3 were my favourite characters back in the day. Great episode.
I’m not sure it matters WHEN the Jeans were swapped but rather HOW they were swapped. Both Jeans are telepathic and could be subconsciously sharing memories all along as some part of Sinister’s design.
Probably not an easter egg, but Madeline's SFW Basic Instincts moment convinced me this is not a kid's show anymore
Oh yeah this is not Saturday morning series anymore.
Not to mention blood.
Timestamp?...for scientific purposes 🫡
@@herbertscott957521:42
Personally, I can't wait to see the cosplays
It’s interesting how this season everyone has a developing story happening, but Wolverine is just like living in the middle of everything with no apparent story for him going forward, mostly references to his past.
I bet it's intentionally because we have been given Wolverine stories to an extreme extent that anymore will feel like the character is used to death. Time for a break from him and others to take the forefront.
How about Wolverine was never the central character of the X-Men until the FOX X-MEN movies....
SURPRISE!!!
The actual X-Men is not about just Wolverine and mutant sidekicks. This is much more aligned with Marvel X-Men where the narratives were balanced across all the team members.
I'm soooooooooo glad Wolverine is more in the background. He's the focus of a ton of the original TAS and the movies leaned way, WAY too hard on him. He's been done to death. So glad we're getting focus on other characters.
@@bryce253 he did still have the most solo or duo adventures in the original series
Remember that this is animated Wolverine, since the world was exposed too much to the movie Wolverine. TAS will always be about Scott and Jean
Dude you're like the friend I wish I had to talk about the episodes and tell me the comic references I don't know. Your content is great thanks a lot 🙏
When Jubilee and Sunspot get spooked when the tv character starts talking to them it is also reminiscent of Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors when Freddy talks to the girl who wants to be an actor through the tv, then grabs her from the tv when she comes closer to investigate.
Yeah, the music cue before the shower room scene was also reminiscent of the Nightmare on Elm Street score and directly references that shower room scene from part 2. Also indirectly referencing the 1988 film Twins through the actor Marshall Bell. Cable/Stryfe.
This is your big break Jennifer..
Welcome to the Primetime Bi***!!!!
@@SuperJutah That's the moment! 😆
@@jimzle I literally watch dream warriors ever other day!
I love that Jean as a child is holding a cyclops plush in the flashback with Professor X. Very cool.
On one of the dark Phoenix episodes from the original series, Jean visits her childhood room and that same plush is in there.
@@anthonyhyde7325I guess Polyphemus was popular in the 80s?
Thank you! One of the specific things that I wanted out of this video was to learn about the doll that child Jean was carrying.
I just found it odd that she created her own nickname (Goblin Queen) and real name (Madelyn Prior) without really knowing who she truly is in 15mins.
I loved when morph changed to his OG self for a second I honestly miss that style
Not exactly OG. It's him after brain washing to carry the point of what Sinister is capable of.
*they them
@@AarayKyramudthem
That’s how he looked in the very first episode. Before sinister
@@Ottophil he. Sorry, I don't play that game, especially with fictional characters who can't get as butthurt as you apparently do.
Jeans doll when Charles Xavier meets her is the same doll when she went back to her parents home as Phoenix in the original series.
Magik is my favorite Xmen of all time! Im so glad she got to make an appearance even if it was just morph.
Magik must exist in universe if Morph changed into her. Would love a spinoff of New Mutants.
She does exist in the series, they showed her several times in the original. But only as Illyana, not Magik.
So it is kinda confusing how Morph is able to turn into mutants he either never met or mutants who weren't fully established yet, like Magik.
To be fair, he did these things in the original too.
I remember him turning randomly into Deadpool and Omega Red.
I guess they use him as a meta Easter egg machine.
Dope af.
I feel like morph is there to represent the characters that they didn’t really have time for in the episodes plus they use him to show that all these other known mutants are out there in the world
@@ProfessorZoom2140*they lol
The LifeDeath episodes are gonna be ground breaking!! I can't wait!!
With a big budget they can go nuts.
I can't believe what they managed to squeeze in this episode without it sucking. Nice.
It felt way too rushed for me - this should've been the whole seasons arc, not just one episode.
Yes it was fast paced without being clunky or bloated
Nah we didn’t need a whole season on the Madelyn saga. So glad they finished it in this episode
Could've used a 2 episode arc/ to be continued but this episode did what it needed to do without feeling forced.
@@blazehokage3609I totally agree. They seem to be hitting the points while keeping the story on a mostly clear path. The original story could get confusing at times when I was a casual viewer back in the day
the lift (elevator) bit with the monster was a nod to Spirited Away
i was literally thinking it reminded me of spirited away but it’s been a while since i’ve seen the film
The reflection in Scott’s thin strip of glass was amazing
Inferno is one of if not my favorite crossover story. This is probably the best way to do this story in a much smaller way.
The Phalanx works. But I think it's more likely that Jean was swapped out at the end of Beyond Good and Evil. That was originally supposed to be the finale of the show. And it gave Sinister an opportunity while Apocalypse was occupied. Also, every psychic was contained at the moment. So there would've been nobody to sense what he was doing. I think Xavier might have sensed something if it happened in the Phalanx story. But that's just my theory.
This makes sense. I feel like the professor would have been able to sense if Jean went unconscious.
I can take heartbreak, I cannot take watching Gambit get heartbroken. Come on Marvel, don't do my boi dirty again!
This series is 🔥
Noticed that Jean's toy of fluffy cyclopes monster is a hint in the OG series for her falling for Cyclopes (when she return to her home as the dark phoenix back in season 3 I think) but the same fluff toy is shown in the flashback. Nice touch.
I think you missed the Easter egg where Jean's childhood toy was a cyclops get it cyclops22:56
That Cyclops toy was also in the Dark Phoenix episode part 3 where she visited her parents home.
When he stuff like, around 8:40, maybe Sinister didn’t clone Jean but maybe just used Jean to create a clone… I don’t think the writers of this video were putting that much effort into this.
Morph had popped the claws when he walked in the shower asking Wolverine if he needs "help reaching those hard to reach places."
Again is obvious that Ryan didn't watched this and is just reading some script
@@shojo8708I’m tripping off the “they” when referring to Morph when in the original cartoon he’s referred to as a he. Had to shoehorn in the bs.
@@joe5923 true. I seen a comment somewhere saying Wolverine and Morph are bisexual smh I didn’t get that from the episode. People want Wolverine to be gay so bad lmao. Other than the “they” stuff with Morph the shows been good so far so I’ll just ignore that part.
Bigots
MP calling herself Goblin Queen made no sense without the demon storyline.
It's so great to hear christopher britton to come back as minister sinister cant wait to see more of him.
I think Sinister got his hands on Jean and her genetic material during the “Beyond Good and Evil” arc in season 4. He could’ve used Apocalypse’s power over time to speed up the cloning process. So the Jean that participated in the fall of Apocalypse was Madelyne Pryor.
Regarding when Jean is replaced, I think her hair style is an indication, the real Jean always wears a pony tail when in costume but Madelyn let her hair down. You can see that once Jean wakes up a feels Scott is in danger she pulls up her hair and makes a pony tail. At the end of the episode that is how distinguish them both. In the original series, their hair changes in the last season, with the new cheaper episodes showing jean with her hair down which I always thought it was interesting change and maybe more a nod to her comic book counterpart.
I think the techno virus in the episode is different from the legacy virus seen in the original series. It appears similar but they aren’t. You can also see this as Beast has tested both viruses and would have the cure if it were the legacy virus as he got it from Wolverine in the original series.
Did the part where Beast explicitly stated it's a new version of the virus give it away for you?
So there is another time he could have switched her that your not thinking of. During the, Beyond Good and Evil storyline he kidnapped Jean shortly after she married Cyclops. This was for Apocalypse's plan but they had her for a while before that arc was over.
I thInk Sinister harvested Jeans genetic material after the first failed wedding where Morph was the officiate and then the switch happened during the Beyond Good and Evil storyline.
Ya. That weird plant thing bites them.
This is my thinking too
Somehow I think so, too.
I think it happened in season 2. During season 4, the Nasty Boys threw her in a portal into the future. I think Apocalypse took over after that and enprison her
The clone with Essex DNA named the baby after Sinister. Baby Nathan’s middle name is Charles after Xavier who also has Essex DNA.
😮 so professor Xavier is Nathan's grandpa? 🤔
@@Movie2022 not really. Sinister made sure his DNA ended up in Xavier. Pryor has Sinister DNA. More like brothers 🤷🏾♂️
I think Jean Grey was switched by Mr.Sinister either during season04 "Beyond good and evil episodes or Season 05 " The Phalanx Covenant" episodes.
Thats my personal opinion, both were aware of the phoenix power good and dark due had their peak telepath level when Jean and Madelyne fought each other... either the switch by Sinster was done where had opportunity in season 04 Beyond good and evil episodes due Apocalypse and Mr.Sinister capturing telepath or during Season 05 "The Phalanx Covenant " when he was helping or runing swtich Jean Grey with Madelyne Pryor.
So we all agree morph definitely has a crush on logan right....?
That would melt the minds of a lot of trolls.
@@maxanluulnaxam1102 i mean its soo obvious 🤷♀️
Remember Logan & Hercules had a thing in a comic run, so it wouldn’t be implausible.
Yup
@@DagNeb_Italternate timeline Logan not 616
The original series arc with the techno virus was also a spin on the comics legacy virus arc, which was an alegory to the AIDS crisis in the 90's.
I really hope this version of Madelyn is able to forge her own identity instead of losing her mind and dying, and that she and Jean are able to coexist without things being awkward as hell
I need that Doug as Wolverine t-shirt. Also, I absolutely love this series so far, for a multitude of reasons. Overall a great show, and per usual, a great SC video
There merch is actually
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It was a nice touch that during the Jean/Madelyne interface, there are shards of broken glass. At the end of Inferno, once the Goblin Queen is defeated but Jean is still linked to her, Storm, Psylocke & Rogue join the Goblin Queen/Marvel Girl mind link & see a mind scape of glass shards, each one a memory of either Jean or Madelyne (Psylocke is there to link into telepathic bond & Rogue is there incase her experience dealing with multiple personalities when she uses her powers might help Jean deal with what she's experiencing with Madelyne). As each shard is destroyed, Jean loses that memory. Eventually as Madelyne dies & the two have come to some resolution, Jean absorbs both of their memories to fully embrace the role of wife & mother to Scott & Nathan. The name Madelyne Pryor is apparently a little joke of Sinisters, Madelyne as in her "Made her" & Pryor as in she had a prior existance as Jean Grey.
definitely think Sinister cloned & swapped Jean either before the psychics were freed in the Beyond Good & Evil arc or as you mentioned, during a brief window in the Phalanx Covenant 2-parter
also we've met other members of the New Mutants in the original show. Wolfsbane was with the rest of X-Factor in the episode Cold Comfort. Obviously she's likely to remain with that team rather than become a New Mutant in this series but still. And in the episode No Mutant Is An Island, where Scott goes back to his old orphanage after the Phoenix Saga, the young mutants he saves from Kilgrave include Rusty, Skids and Boom-Boom/Boomer/Meltdown.
In the comics Scott & Jean go back in time to the 1800’s & encounter Ms. sinister for the 1st time which what 1st peaks his interest in them. Thus why he owns Scott’s orphanage decades later. He already encountered them years before & wanted to use them/their DNA 🧬 to defeat Apocalypse
Are you sure it Jean and Scott? I think it was Gambit and he even made Black Womb, Scott's Great, Great, Great Grandma.
Jean and Maddie went over their memories again recently in the comics
When she said call me Madeline Pryor I almost laughed out loud. Man it feels like this show is written by the writer of Axe Cop. It’s so bizarre and surreal and over the top.
I hope the writers do an arch based on the cyclops and phoenix comic series from the 90s, where scott and jean have their minds transported to bodies in the deep future, where they raise nathan and protect him from apocalypse
This was a good episode but it felt rush. I’m sorry but the Madelyn Pryor/Inferno storyline should have at least a four-part storyline or the main storyline for the whole season. This storyline deserved the same treatment as the Phoenix/Dark Phoenix storyline.
It was way too rushed! And as parents Scott and the Jean's clone you not going with my child alone.
one thing that you missed is that storm's title screen has been removed from the opening credits, emphasizing that she really has left the team.
I think the only times it really makes any sense for Sinister to grab Jean is either the Phalanx arc like you mentioned or when Sinister's sent by Apocalypse to grab the psychics at the end of Season 4. Sinister's lab also looks quite similar to Apocalypse's citadel castle at the end of time and while it's clearly not the same castle I do think it's set up as an homage.
Great catch. I can see that being the case too.
I think Mr Sinister switched Jean during the Beyond Good and Evil series. He was in the Axis of Time, so had unlimited time to perfect cloning, grow a clone and would have a chance to switch Jeans. This would explain why Beast found that the clone was younger than the real Jean; aging wouldn’t be the same in the Axis of Time, Sinister could have sped up the clones growth and it goes to normal when back in real time. Apocalypse said he spent a century there, learning its secrets and said he didn’t need his chamber anymore.
The shower scene is flirtatious at the beginning. Is why the vision of Logan tell Morph, "we know." Morph was "jokingly" talking about scratching Logan's "hard to reach spots." He's constantly around Logan, because he has unrequited feelings for him like Logan does for Jean.
*They but sure
Jean was swapped out when Sinister and Apocalypse abducted her and the other telepaths.
This show is so taking me back to early 90s uncanny x-men and early Jim Lee x-men combined. I’m loving this. 👍🏻 I just hope Disney doesn’t fudge it up in the future.
This was a horror episode, so dark, Magneto getting cut baldy, demons, jump scares, a baby in that bad condition
HAPPY BIRTHDAY RYAN!!
Great episode. My only negative for it is the pacing. In the original this would have been a 3 parter. Feels rushed and because of that a few things felt off. Like Madelyne naming herself. Would have been ok had we had a hint that her childhood friend was named Madeylne or something like that, but we didn't. And her naming herself Goblin Queen. Weird. Now, I'm NOT hating. I loved the episode. But criticism isn't hating.
Young jean grey is shown holding a cyclops plushie; the mythical monsters, not the x-man. This is the same plush doll she found in season 3's dark pheonix saga when she returns to her childhood home. Also a cute nod to the idea that she's always loved all things cyclops
I really wish Storm would have cut her long hair as a character development moment after losing her powers. It would have been a powerful scene.
This episode was fantastic! This is exactly want I wanted and so much more! Give me more of this amazing batshit insanity! These are the trippy as hell X-Men stories I've waited so long for! I'm so happy to have these X-Men back as a family because this is what I missed the most! The chaotic energy from the X-Men as they go through hell trying to figure out what the heck is going on. This is exactly what's going to get me tuning in every week for this incredible show! 🌟✨️🎆 10/10 episode!!!
Am I the only one thinking that if I was Logan I would ask Mr. Sinister to throw a Jean clone or two my way 😭🤣
Same here!!
Morph already had the claws out before. Morph thought it was Wolverine in the shower and made a joke about scratching his back, hence the claws.
When Sinister 'arrived' the claws just stayed out.
Noticed that both Jeans had different tones of skin color. BUT the Jean on the couch somehow had had more of a tan despite being in a dungeon for however long. I don’t know what that means though lol
I can't lie... I cried 😢. Phenomenal writing 🫡
This was an amazing episode. It's probably my favorite one from horror like tone to just the animation in the action everything is perfect 10/10.
I thought it was John Byrne who was the one who wanted to revive Jean, which is why it was done in his Fantastic Four book.
6:12 It should've been me, not him!
Scott is being an ass! His father actually thought he, his brother and his wife were ALL DEAD! He didn’t abandoned him…..
I thought the episode was very good but my only little gripe is that the retcon a lot of elements from the previous seasons such as season 3 to season 5.
The reason why I say this is because the way that they took this story idea to introduce Madeline Pryor, the mother of cable and basically Jean Gray's clone, is that Jean was replaced during the events of season 2 and that Madeline Pryor was acting out as Jean Grey during the Phoenix Saga and the rest of the way during graduation day episode.
Which doesn't make much sense since Sinister would have realized that this was the clone of Jean Grey when apocalypse was in control of the Nexus and had all of the mutant psychics at his disposal to try and control all the reality.
This series is checking all the boxes. Damn good.
Can’t wait to see how or when Maria got there before Monica at the end of the Marvels. Beast told us in episode one that doohickey is an elegant piece of art capable of teleporting someone through time and space, or as the post credit says a universe parallel to our own which of course is impossible, without a quantum band /bangle bracelet… basically, the Nor dimension and the quantum entanglement matter displacement of Ms. Marvel, Photon, & Captain Marvel after the cosmic rod struck the 2nd bangle
As a Dad, seeing Nathan disappear into the time stream crushed me.
20:25 I was thinking the same thing, I was under the impression Bishop’s power was that he redirects kinetic energy. If so why not just use cyclops optic beam, why the unnecessary step🤷🏿♂️Maybe they just wanted 2 energy blasts
They adapted inferno really well for what it was. Tied it really nice in a half hour, I'm really digging this reboot.
10:45 - Executive Producer Kevin Feige.
He's really been involved in Marvel for a lot longer than I've realized.
I might be mis remembering this but when Madelyne and Jean were fighting, Madelyne said "I was the Phoenix" and then Jean says "all you remember is power" or something like that, it made it seem as though Madelyne remembers being the Phoenix, with her encircled with flames, and Jean not having those memories, which would make it likely that Mr Sinister cloned Jean before the Phoenix Saga
That’s what I thought too. It never showed that the original Jean had the power of the phoenix or aware of it. She didn’t know how big this power was.
Not necessarily Jean performs a mind melted not sure who did what?. Look at Besty Brodrick/Knwannon storyline and Psylock/Revanance.
The Bishop-Cyclops combination might be a nod to their fight during Civil War where Bishop is part of the Government trying to capture the remaining mutants after M-Day and Cyclops intercepted him. The fight ended up with Cyclops hitting Bishop with a full blast of his Optic Blast and even asks him how much can he handle. That was an awesome fight.
Maybe it’s just me, but it felt like they were implying that the reason we don’t see morph in the same form anymore is that it’s tied to his trauma from being brainwashed mr sinister. Anyone else? If so, it’s a great explanation for ot
Good thing Morph wasn't in the room when Cyclops screamed, "Do none of you know what it's like to be abandoned?!"
Morph was dead! Even Jean sense that. Also Sinister told him that he brought him back to life.
They condensed a few huge storylines in the comics into 1 episode. Madelyne Pryor, Cable’s origin, and Inferno. And… they did a pretty good job!
I definitely don’t like Magneto getting top billing and Cyclops relinquishing lead of the team so easily. That don’t really track with his character - but I suppose it makes sense he was letting go of the reins because he was planning to leave the team. Also there shoulda been some mention of why Bishop can't bring Nathan back once he's cured. Anyways the showrunners doing almost the best job anyone can. Overall great show so far!
Magneto and Cyclops both have supporting roles in this episode, so I don't think Cyclops' role has been reduced. I see your point though
For this mission Cyclops shouldn't have even gone much less lead, he's emotionally compromised
Nobody ever questions WHY Mr. Sinister is vulnerable to Cyclops optic blasts, but he's been retconned so many times I don't feel like getting into it.
This is why the Marvel Formula didn't work with Star Wars.
@@KaijuAKD Not sure what you mean exactly. Mr. Sinister was retconned several times in the comics, long before Disney.
Star Wars didn't really start getting retconned until Disney took over and they let Filoni do whatever he wanted.
@@KaijuAKDwhat marvel formula? For decades the only real Star Wars canon were 3 movies, it wasn't until very recently that they started to build on that Canon because all those years what we had were a ton of legends stories that were basically fan made, but some people really liked those stories and to this day still think that they are Canon when they really weren't. Star wars might be old but it's not as explored as comic book universes like the xmen that have lore that has been through the blender for many decades.
Scott Summers is from ancient Egyptians family line of Pharaoh's. Maybe that why it harm him?.
@@sophiawilson8696 If that's the case it would be a retcon. Moreover, Mr. Sinister is completely impervious to Havok.
I think the grab of Jean was the second wedding. Nasty boys took them both but Jean went by herself into the portal. Nasty boys traveled together through a portal and sinister was taking Scott together.
Sinister and the Nasty Boys also kidnap Jean during the Beyond Good and Evil 4 part event!
It was likely in season 4, when Mr. Sinister teamed up with Apocalypse and Magneto that he was able to clone Jean Grey, after kidnapping her in the four part episode “beyond good and evil”
18:37
I don't agree with this part.
He already had the claws out in the scene before.
He just didn't change back.
Wrong! The Phoenix had never driven Jean insane, in both the comic and the cartoon it was Mastermind messing with her mind to try to control her.
I gotta say, as much as they might have OVER simplified inferno, it sure makes more sense than the comic, and cyclops and Jean are left looking much more sympathetic (cyke especially). And letting maddy live rather than resurrecting her a million times is for the best too. Certainly could also just be a preview for a more expansive twist on inferno down the line. As for when the clone swap happened, it seems sinister had multiple opportunities to harvest Jean’s DNA in the original show. Would still take some extra effort to advance the clone to adulthood based on what we know about the abilities of TAS sinister (if I’m not mistaken) so that swap likely happened as late as possible in the original animated series. The horror elements were very well done, and reminded us how much the show (and ourselves) has grown up in 30 years.
I would love to see the x-factor team headed by Forge from TAS turn out to be unwitting pawns in an anti mutant deep state agenda instead of the “mutant liasons” to the federal government. Setting up Forge as responsible for the mutant power suppression tech as in the comics would be welcome.
This should have been an event like a 3 part episode,they just rushed it in 1 episode
I agree that there should be more of a build-up, though to be honest, the run-time of these episodes is closer to 1-1/2 length episode of the OG series.
It’s funny how bishop took cable into the future
So why in the last X-men cartoon cable made it seems he just meant bishop
In that time fugitive story
My theory is when bishop was taking Nathan into his timeline Nathan some how got
Lost in the time stream and landed in the 40th century
My theory is that Phoenix swap them out at the end of Dark Phoenix. It did say, "The in radians in her is no more." I think the Phoenix found Madelyn's cloned body brought it to the moon, not knowing it wasn't Jean and gave Madelyn the memories it had and the powers. Maddie believed she was Jean as well as the other X-Men until the real Jean Grey came knocking.
I feel like Rogue and Magneto booking the danger room is part of the illusion, watch how morph keeps sliding through day after day and it’s always Magneto and Rogue. It’s subtly prepping Gambit for his fear hallucinations
Shocked we haven't heard a classic Jean Grey moan by now
In the comics Sinister is responsible for the bloodlines os several X Men including Cyclops (whose ancestor was one of several subjects of his experiments) Jean Grey (whose family appeared in the episode of his origin, his wife was Rebecca and he also referred to her as the queen or Eve), Xavier and several others. He wants to create the perfect mutant in order to defeat Apocalypse. Iliana, Colossus and Mikhail are offsprings of Grigori Rasputin who also met Sinister. There is an entire story to tell because he started all his experiments after his son died and Cyclops and Jean time travel to stop him.
Question did Sinister's wife had baby? After Sinister ran away?.
That teddy bear transformation reminded me of that one scene in akira.
Happy birthday Ryan! 🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳