The CAR WIZARD gets a 2002 Pontiac Firebird Firehawk with a Speed Problem?!?
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- čas přidán 6. 05. 2020
- This 2002 Pontiac Firebird FireHawk has a speed problem. The CAR WIZARD 🧙♂️ uses his powers to find the source on this 10K mile car.
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“The problem is in the cluster!”
Ah, it’s a clusterf--
LOL! You beat me to it! Ha!
Maybe they changed it to KPH and forgot to switch it back to mph lol 😂
@@hacatan24 55mph is not 70km/h
here u missed this: -uck
@@Zwank36 I believe he may be missing -ailure ...
Ok it's time to take my WS6 out of storage.
haha my man
Check out Dennis Collins latest video. He just purchased a WS6 with 2691 miles in mint condition, and it still smells brand new.
18 years later, and still one of the baddest looking cars on the road
Sad Pontiac is"nt built anymore. The Performance division of GM!
@@daniellaubach7544 or the 4th gen F-bodies in general...an 01 Camaro SS was the first new car I purchased. I have a lot of nostalgia for that car.
Yessir! Bought my WS6 back in 2010 and still have it! Love it so much
I was a lot boy for GM in 1997, they were doing a dealer trade and I had to drive up a Mercedes 500sl in trade for a new ws6 package. On the trip back I hit 150mph, I though I was the kind of the road. I've driven much faster and higher speed cars since but that one has always held a special place.
Your presentation skills have been improving a lot lately, Wizard. I came over from Hoovie's channel and the differences between when you started the channel and now are night and day. You're an extremely smart guy and I love your content, keep up the great work!
I noticed that too! I think by nature, he is so analytical and intelligent, some people who don't know better read that as cold, or even angry or complaining. He doesn't try to entertain you with his on-camera personality, although I do believe him to be a warm and humorous guy.
I’m also from Hoovie’s channel and completely agree! Wizard’s content is getting better and better as he finds his stride.
He seems a bit awkward in front of the camera.. but with all the exposure hes gotten that just shows what a good person he is. It hasnt went to his head at all.. super cool guy
@@sfmc98 I think he said his brother is a neurosurgeon, good genes run in this family
Agreed. He's getting more comfortable in front of the camera. His work was already great, but now his presentation is getting better, too.
I have a 2000 WS6, almost to 11,500 miles on it. Excellent cars with rising values. They're a hell of a lot of fun to drive for a stock car, too.
There is a great place in Pontiac, MI called Scott Speedometer Service that I'm sure can repair that speedo. Ship the speedo there and it will be taken care of.
Nice, Bro...
Of course it's in Pontiac, MI. Makes perfect sense. :)
I know of the Place well.. Nicely done sir..
Bump for the Wizard to see.
@@dragonbrownies517 maybe hes checking the rims on mrs wizard
The smoothness in ride was designed in by GM engineers. The 4th Gen is a great road car with decent gas mileage. It’s ludicrous that they stopped making them in 2002.
They didn't sell very well. Competition from Japanese sports cars and the massive sales of SUVs at the time killed these cars. I think for every 4th gen F body Ford sold 10 mustangs.
@@garrisonnichols807 crazy that Mustang (i own one from that era) had so much less horsepower and sold more
Love my 4th gens 👍
@@garrisonnichols807 They sold well enough and were profitable. They made zero money on 2003 F bodies
apparently the gas milage is about the same as a 3.0 ford ranger, which is funky to think about
Car wizard loves this car, takes out for a drive to “check” speedometer. 120 mph and 500 miles later, needs more “testing” lol.
Remember the speedometer is OFF.
SO WHEN THE CAR SPEEDOMETER IS @ 120 MPH.
TRUE SPEED 80 MPH
@@nellyfarnsworth7381 Australian kph speedo. I think the customer has an Australian cluster. He must have replaced it before with aftermarket parts....
@@ricky-sanchez It says MPH right there in the middle of the speedometer.
iSlandeRon haha 😆 I was going to comment this. Of course he enjoyed the car 🤣
And he once say that f bodys are sportcar wanna be bla bla bla hard to work on ans shit and now he says there is space to work on i dont undesrand him, yes they are a pita some times to work on depending on what you are doing but are lovely cars and no way can be beatten speed fun vs money not a way
That Firehawk takes me back! My folks had a 2001 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am WS6 with every performance addition from factory. My folks loved that car it was the king in the day. Good video Wizard thanks for taking me down memory lane today. I am a fan of the channel all time thanks for keeping us sane in these rough times. Keep it up 👍🏻
Every performance addition? Was an automatic or manual?
pizzamon 79 considering I was 6/7 years old in that day I don’t remember the trans. But my Dad talked so fondly about the car and all the fun he had. I’ll ask my old man though.
@@BrandanM94 they are very nice cars I was a huge fan of them back when they came out the WS6 and the Firehawk and they had near Corvette like performance. I was a subscriber to Motor Trend at the time and I had all the specs memorized
I knew a guy had one brand new top of the line 2001 .he always had the hottest girls riding with him ...😉😉😉
@@pizzamon795 there was none from the factory. I think you know that.
i’m 23 years old and these cars are so nostalgic to me. just remember being a young kid hearing these cars drive by sounded so menacing and the look of them is just so perfect to me down to the honeycomb tail lights. i’m going to need to get myself one some day they’re just so hard to come by around where i live and when you find them they are going for a premium
Man U put in in words did u ever get one ?
A rare moment when u can actually see a GM car with a dash not separating lol
lol, but they do crack, along with the door panels. 😁
The Firebird is always the thing that reminds me of my favorite childhood tv series Knight Rider. The car was such an amazing thing in it, unsurpassed by many movie cars. Maybe except Herbie the bug, but I'm not certain about that.
I bet the customer wouldn't have complained if it was recording less mileage 😜
Beautiful car.
Odometer and speedometer are different
Odometer records distance travelled of a wheeled vehicle, the speedometer well that kinda does what it says .
@@gedd6750 Depends if they are clocked using the same process or not. If they are fully independent then no issues, if it's off the same reading then miles go up accordingly.
Either way looking at how lovely that car is the owner would have done the right thing.
It's actually recording more if they're synched as instead of 55 it said 70
@@medfadhelgriguiche5226 exactly, if they're synched or interdependent it's actually recording faster than actual also further than actual.
My 2000 Frontier had the same error in the speedometer and odometer. It read about 4% low in speed and in mileage. Speed was checked with GPS, mileage with mile markers.
I like Firehawks. My Firehawk is 10 years older than this one. And a lot more red. And third-gen. But it only has around 6k miles on it. So it's not as experienced as this one.
That's a pretty rare Poncho you have, congrats!
@@christianpankow941 Yeah, not a lot like it.
@@gtoger Picture please?
A 3rd gen firehawk?! I’m so jealous!
6000 miles in 30 years????? I hope your woman gets more attention than that!hahahhahshahahahhs
There is another youtuber auto mechanic, Eric from the South Main Auto channel, he sends defective gauge clusters to a company called United Radio in Syracuse, NY and has had good success with them fixing bad clusters. Might be worth looking in to if you haven't already. Cheers!
I like how the wizard didnt beat on the firehawk. Always a worry when you give someone your car
The wizard is a man of integrity, he would never abuse a customers car.
Not on camera anyway.
Look at the other cars he's got in there--Lambos, Ferraris, Bentleys, list goes on. If he (or anyone else at his shop) was doing that in customer cars, wouldn't be in business too long. Lots of people with those kind of cars have cameras, GPS trackers, etc. so not difficult to find out. Mind you some repairs may require the cars to be "opened up" a little afterwards, to make sure it's running properly--for example you're not gonna be able to fix a complaint of high-rpm, open-throttle, miss, without being able to replicate the complaint situation.
This little birdie just wants to fly, thanks for helping to keep it on the road!
Thanks for keeping us entertained in quarantine wizard.
One of my favorite things about you (car wizard) is that you let us look under the cars and describe everything,thank you again and again!
I love Wizard videos he breaks it down from A TO Z simple and to the point.
these gen TAs are my dream car
Seems like the best option for the XLR would be to use the cheaper radiator and buy an aftermarket oil cooler.
Man, this takes me back. I had a 2002 WS6 wayyyyy back in the day. I never should have let that car go.
This is what you call an "undocumented feature" to get the feeling you are going fast, but you are actually going the speed limit. Saves you a lot in traffic tickets and points on your license.
United Radio would be my first choice for the cluster repair.
Robert Hogue, definitely United Radio.
Why don't you put an external oil cooler on the XLR?
This way you can install a "cheap" radiator.
Taunuslunatic My thought also 😀
Had the same idea.
Yes my call as well
My first thought too. This one shows as a direct fit: shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/imperial-ultra-cool-engine-oil-cooler-kit-240457/10267261-P?vehicleIdSearch=358499&isAllVehicle=false#
Depends if a “cheap” would bolt up, if not by the time he fabs up brackets for the radiator and oil cooler it would probably be the same cost as a new one.
I had a 2001 Firebird Formula, and I loved it. One really stupid thing though is they used nylon worm gears in the pop-up headlights, and they make an awful noise when they go out. I replaced mine with metal worm gears.
I like watching you get better and more comfortable with making videos. Keep up the good work!
That's actually a built in feature to keep you from getting speeding tickets! :-)
I bet Wizard hopped into a clean dress after he saw the mileage.
Tomasz Kiryk this guys voice is creepy af
You would be lucky to find a mechanic that could speak to you that way, not the split tongue of the "service writer". Been there, worked there (not his particular shop). I suppose every customer would prefer to speak directly to the mechanic, not the "front desk". But, how much work could the mechanic get done if it worked that way? Not much... I try hard to help every one I can, but it does slow down my actual "wrenching time". (The time that gets your job done faster & your vehicle back sooner).
I wish that I lived near Wizard.....very smart mechanic....he would be my trusted mechanic....perfect name 👍
He doesn’t have to look for customers....customers look for him..
@@eyeseewho77 i agree its monotone and almost medicated sounding
Wizard, awesome work as usual - there's not a single video that you've uploaded that isn't a wealth of information. Keeping good honest and hard work at its finest. Many people and shops included should emulate from your example. Stay safe.
A Good Mechanic is worth his weight in Gold. This video just made me subscribe.
Imo the 98-02 T/A WS6 is by far the best F-Body ever produced.
This was my dream car. Now they're skyrocketing in value. They're double to quintuple the value they were only 6 years ago. A WS6 with 3000 km is being sold for $48,000. The market is exploding for Trans Ams and Firehawks.
CL Anthony 48,000 never. Nah!
@@charlieanddadreviewsandcha2243 Bend over pontiac fans, The market has a deal for you!!!!!
Nope.
Idk what you’re talking about my man I’ve seen good condition ws6s for low to mid 20s
@@charlieanddadreviewsandcha2243 it had 3k km on Autotrader, basically brand new. That's how much this car cost brand new in Canada.
This car was awesome when it came out and when I first saw it, I was immediately hooked, 4th gen (and 3rd gen for that matter) f-bodies are getting harder to come by that haven't been hacked to death or beat to pieces unfortunately. Absolutely beautiful car, wish I owned one.
Had a 2000 Trans Am, Ram Air, WS6, it would get 18 mpg around town and 22 mpg @ 90 mph. Great car, rode good, fast, had that high spoiler very attractive ride. Never had to replace anything in 120,000 miles except tires, battery and brakes.
Thanks for the ride-along. I miss my Firebird.
Those f body cars have been going up in price. I want one
save up and hurry up lol
C5 Corvettes are going down in value. They’re a hell of a bargain right now
I wanted one of these so bad right when I was turning 16!
I had one of these!! Almost zero complaints! Ran 12s
That's why you're the best Car Wizard! You think of everything, not just putting in any old part!!!!
Pontiac Trans Am Firehawk!! 🤤🤤🤤
looks like a super rare formula firehawk
It’s a Trans Am Firehawk with an Iroc wing.
@@4wofury Right, he called it a firebird it's a trans am firehawk.
@@seankeys5384 dude its the same car with some different parts and engine. The rest is marketing bull.
Like a type r is still a civic.
@@alphatrion100 why do you think I don't know that,you should always call a car exactly what it is you don't call a t type a grandnational do you?spite the fact that there pretty much the same.
Instantly hit the like button as soon as I saw the thumbnail! Trans Am was my first car, and I'm going to get another one hopefully soon!!
My dream car! I actally sat in the back of one of those, was just a teenager but i was around 6'6 ft tall at the time. Friggin awesome cars.
Im 6’6 and had a Camaro of that era, no way in hell I was ever sitting in the back 😂
Thanks for showing a lot of the cars you show are not seen often here in Australia.
Trans Am Depot in Tallahassee had a specimen like this. Beautiful.
Make sure the car hasn’t been tuned. Hptunners has a speedometer calibration. That adjust the signal the ecu sends to the cluster not what’s reported to obd2.
I was going to ask, on this car, if you were to change the tires, where would you program it to show the right speed? I'd verify that was programmed directly. Part of that is based on what would go wrong to cause a speedo to read high? That strikes me as an odd failure mode.
YESSSS, I Saw The FireHawk in The Background of Hoovies Turbo Beetle Video And I Was Waiting For You To Mention it , What an Amazing Beast And in Mint Condition as Well, Thanks Wizard & Mrs Wizard .
Such a brilliant car. I had a 2000 Firehawk with longtubes and a Borla. That car was scary fast. Sold it like a chump...Also, worth noting that there were only 1334 Hawks made in 2002 and was the only year for a whale-tail spoiler.
What a beautiful machine, I pray I never have to sell my ws6
"and now we'll get it up to 130 and see how far off it is"
My very first real job was working at a car dealership. The sales people got brand new demos and a tank of gas a week is part of our pay. The caveat was we were only allowed to put 3000 miles on our demo, if we went over the mileage we had to park the car until it was sold. The older car salesman never sweated the mileage. They just had the car put on a rack and had one of their buddies unhook the speedometer from the transmission. This was 1988. When they got back from their vacation 1,500 miles added they just had the speedometer hooked back up and sold it to the next unsuspecting consumer.
So the first thing that popped in my head when we had a car with this low mileage and it's only problem is the speedometer I had to be a little suspicious if the odometer had been tampered with.
I really love your videos. Keep up the great work.
Wow. Your shop is amazing. Thanks for the infomative content.
Car Wizard - question for you...... have you looked on GM Parts Direct? Unless there's something wrong on their website, according to the diagram if you scroll down to reference number 1, a new radiator from GM Parts Direct, for a 2006 XLR, is $274.40. And it appears to have all the fittings for oil and transmission cooling lines.
www.gmpartsdirect.com/auto-parts/2006/cadillac/xlr/base-trim/4-6l-v8-gas-engine/cooling-system-cat/radiator-and-components-scat
GM Parts Direct is great. They have diagrams, the parts are all OEM, and the prices are significantly lower than at the dealer. I've ordered probably a dozen parts from them over the years for a few different vehicles and they've all been perfect. Only gripe I have is they take a long time to ship.
The same AcDelco radiator is on RockAuto and it also has the oil cooler fittings. Not sure what the Wizard is on about with this one... www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=533504&cc=1432043&jsn=411
@daniel bean he did a video on an xlr that needed a radiator
@daniel bean Someone's not paying attention
Agree on the GMPartsdirect.com - check out the deals and close outs. Been buying parts since 2003 back when they had SLP SS Camaro and Forehawk leftover parts.
OBD-2 speedo? Something like ScanGauge 2. I had this in my car for a while. Then you don't have to worry about GPS signal and you know the computer reads right. Also doubles to read scan codes, fuel mileage and more
Those scan gauge sometimes need updating depending on the car and can be a pain in the ass, bought one for my Chevy sonic
@@luisvilla799 I used the scan gauge 2 on my 96 subaru legacy, 07 yaris, 12 impreza, 16 crosstrek. Seems good to me. I guess those are all Japanese? But it was always plug and play for me. Also, it was an example there must be a dozen or more 'tools' that show speed direct from the computer.
@daniel bean It's pretty easy to break down what that actually says. We can just do the math. If it is truly going 55 when it displays 70 we can assume that it's displaying approx 21.6% more. Just add that to the odometer. So let's say 12,200 miles. Still. Really good for that year. This assumes it had this issue from day one. Which I highly doubt it was probably a recent development, the owner doesn't seem the type to let something that egregious linger. Also I think that car had a digital odometer and we know the computer is working well, really depends on how and where the info is coming from.
@daniel bean Note, the Wizard has verified that the vehicle speed sensor is, in fact, working properly. Therefore, the odometer is working properly as it does not rely on the analog speedometer needle to display the correct mileage.
I've seen similar issues in instrument clusters in my workshop and always been able to get instrument repairers to fix them. Probably the best option with this great car!
Really enjoy videos! Keep them coming
Me and the Wizard have the same addiction. My daughter has a 2010 beetle. I have a 2012 beetle both with the 2.5 5 cyl
I swear officer, I was only doing 52mph
I like seeing how professional you are with this car.
The ride may have be a left over of how Herb Adams used to design the suspensions. Softer sprung but with massive sway bars! Nice video. Great car. Love seeing one all original in such nice shape!
On the Cadillac, just use a aftermarket oil cooler.
A stand alone oil cooler.
Nelly Farnsworth good idea. I don’t know why the wiz didn’t suggest that.👌separate cooler world be a good upgrade too.
Nelly Farnsworth the customer may want to keep it original
@@wurly164
Yes. But I would rather have $1,200. In my pocket.
Always loved those cars, would'n't mind getting one someday.
I think they are a great bargain for the performance you get.
I had a new 01 trans am. Bright red. I sold it after about two years. Still to this day I wish I had it
It's definitely a holy grail type car for me
Batmobile.
I've had a couple ram airs, they are great cars and I could get amazing hwy mpgs out them (6speed).
Trans Ams, especially of the 93 -02 4th gen years, are my favorite car of all time.
One of the most beautiful cars ever made!
I agree! 👍🇺🇸
Would love it if this customer emailed doug demuro, such an interesting looking car
Doug DeMoron wouldn't give the car a review it deserves.
My favorite car... I've been hunting one for years. One of these days I'll find one and actually be in a position to buy it.
Beware! Low mileage ones are bringing a hefty price tag.
Those old Firehawks or WS6s were some incredible performance buys of it's day. Still love them after all these years!
3:33... "in town" looks a lot like "out of town". I love rural areas. Great videos Car Wizard!
I'm actually interested in buying one of those
I've seen four in my life, two with flush headlights. I don't even know where the flush lights come from. Awesome car. I love this one and the WS6 package.
Where are you from to only see 4? I have owned 8 firebirds and still have 3, 2 of which are this body style. I am no where near rich, I has just been that one car I love. They are fairly priced and reliable as long as you keep it stock or build it right.
Yeah mustn’t be in this country. I’ll bet when you see them everyone’s head turns.
@@charlieanddadreviewsandcha2243 right here in the US Firehawks are rare.
Shekhar Moona Well more rare. But I used to see them around. Not as much anymore. But they are out there. Mostly summertime cars.
I think SLP is the one that made those flush exposed headlights. Their concept had them and they made them available for a while. Probably bloody expensive nowadays!
The more I see that Lotus in the background the more I want one. I don't know a Car Wizard so I'll hold off for now. Like the Firebird Firehawk too so thanks for shooting this vid.
Longtime Hoovie sub. First video watched from Wizard’s channel. I am impressed... this is top notch content.
The car actually has less mileage than what’s on the odometer. The speedometer shows it’s traveling faster than actual speed. I would conservatively say the actual mileage is in the 9,xxx miles.
Tu Ho The vss drives the odometer. The stepper motor is not connected to the odometer.
You have that backwards if he's going 70 mph & its showing 55 mph in 1 hour the milage will only be 55 miles so the car will have more mileage than showing
@@6996brandyl wouldn't it just mean the mileage is accurate then, if separate to to the speedo?
@@colinl2908 I don't know if the 2 are separate ,I'm more replying on Tu Ho math say that the mileage would be less
It almost sounds like it's switched to kilometers inside the cluster, Wizard.
I remember driving an HHR where this could be done at will by anyone. Don't know if it's same for 4th Gen F-Body. It seems as a possibility.
But its an analog gauge.
The cluster shows both km and mph
It’s clear to me that the car is operating in a different dimension. It’s skirting the space time continuum that’s all. The fix is to send I back through the black hole the opposite way it came through before. Simple.
thanks for a great video Mr Wizard. Have a great day and stay safe.
maybe that odometer is lying too. Looks like someone broke the speedo, while messing with the odometer.
Bingo👍know people that done it
I worked at a gm dealer in this era and the clusters got replaced on a regular basis they had multiple issues.
Idk guys, this car seems to be in really good shape under the hood & underneath.
Also, as Will & TOP mentioned, gauges on GM clusters from these years were known to stop working properly.
Yeah except the speedo is reading FASTER than the computer readout. Based on your theory it should have LESS reported mileage, not more.
@@raiden6130 My 2001 WS6 is in a very similar condition, and it has 140k. Always kept in a garage and babied. I agree with you though, as my drivers side seat bolster does show some wear. Yes seats can be replaced and leather can be repaired, but sometimes a car really is just low mileage.
Hey, you can play the harp on the radiator. ✌️ MCM
Stay safe
I believe the speedometer is run by the Body Control Module. I think the BCM uses a formula to set the voltage for the step motor (which includes the rear axle ratio where the VSS is because there were two ratios available). You seem to be off by a constant 125% and it may be that the BCM glitched out, not the speedo in the cluster. You can flash an adjusted value to the BCM to get the right speed indication if it is indeed a true 125% off the entire range. While clusters in these do go bad, BCM issues seem more common in my experience. The linear scaling is the tell. Flash the fix rear ratio value and see if the speedo holds true for a while.
You are correct, they will be collectable and an example like that should avoid the parts yard for pieces. But I am biased as a 2002 WS6 owner, luckily its not special and I can butch it up to fix the GM issues.
I love the amount of 4th gen fbodies that have been appearing on your channel as of late 😊
With the speedometer showing a higher speed than it's actually driving is he putting more miles on the car. Is that really a 8k mile Firehawk??? Nice!
Ale Sinnowitz I believe the VSS vehicle speed sensors are independent of the cluster readout. So the odometer readout is correctly measuring.
I also believe that had a digital odometer which gets its info from the computer
Hi. I love your vids. My 2 cents worth about the XLR; Have you considered the option to repair the radiator. If there is only one tiny crack it should be easily fixable by means of epoxy glue and proper surface preparation. Anyway I have a hunch that this specific radiator is only manufactured in small batches (maybe only one?) and there is a great risk that a brand new unit will have the same weaknesses as this bad guy.
Thanks for the video.
It's so funny, judging from the outside and the size of the building, I would only expect farm equipment to be in your shop. In the meantime, so many nice cars. A Perfect Sleeper building! Love your videos. I use knowledge gained from you to help me fix cars and post a video once in a blue moon.
My favorite car, in one of my favorite color. How was the ride?
They’re rough as a sled, but ohhh so fast and wonderful. The most dangerous car I’ve ever driven in the rain.
It is in kilometers 🤣??
It shows both mph/kmph, you can see at 2:33
10.000x1.608 = 16080.
@@darkiee69 10000×.62=6200
Great coverage, care and equipment; Your lift is really cool! Firebirds' are generally well built.
Well behold from the outside maybe. The inside of the one I got rattles likes crazy especially on bad roads. Might call it a rattle snake instead of a firebird
Love the videos. Wish you would actually show the repairs in your videos
What about installing an aftermarket oil cooler on the Caddy?!??
Edit: realized this is a repost, but hey the more the better so he sees it hopefully and answers us :D
The Car Wizard: Does the car read the miles (10100) via the computer or the Cluster?
Yeah, I was wondering that. If the odometer is reading high, like the speedo is, then that car has even fewer miles on it!
I think its around the time they switched to mileage stored both in computer and cluster. the computer sends the mileage to the odometer. So it can be accurate despite the bad speed reading
Odometer comes from the speed sensor
@@marc113085 speed sensor goes to ecu, ecu sends it to cluster. Speed is correct in the computer as the wizard demonstrated.
@@Veikra The cluster is wrong. The customer is not telling the truth. What the wizard is trying to say.
Love those cars. They are real sports cars!
Great video! Would love to see videos on the new turbo S beetle too!
Doug demero was talking about wanting to review one of these
john ross martens he won’t go to Kansas.
Doug demuro doesnt know anything about cars.
Why would a car with that little miles have a bad cluster? Oh it is GM
@Vend Master Get a Honda Acura Toyota or Lexus
Eh, a small block lasts
I miss Pontiac as a brand so much. What a car.
Elliott Alvis Makes me wanna go back to 1992. Such a better world then.
Car Wizard in more ways than one!
I have always been a fan of the FireHawk!!! I miss Pontiac.
Is that a Canadian car? I see a Motomaster battery
good eye!
could be the original battery if not ? they were built in Blainville QC at the , now closed, GM plant and moved to SLP in Montreal for the transformation into a Firehawk and Camaro SS SLP
@@alain99v6 Ah ok nice I didn't know we used to build cars here. Although that Motomaster logo seems like it's one of the newer recent ones compared to older one.
Why do you have car like this and then not drive it at all?
At this point, some of these special edition birds (Firehawks especially) are so rare it's worth preserving them as a collector item.
Wow, I had the 1995 Z28 with LT1 and Borg Warner 6 speed manual, with 206,000 miles on it. Fond memories:)
You don't need a radio in that car, the sound of that engine is music to the ears! Beautiful!