Kyle Lowry: injury-prone, coach-killer ... Greatest Raptor Ever
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- čas přidán 19. 09. 2022
- Kyle Lowry will go down as a champion, a team player, and maybe the greatest Toronto Raptor ever. This is particularly amazing when you consider Lowry's former reputation: He was known for being grumpy, injury-prone, resistant to change, and he didn't particularly want to be a Raptor in the first place. Let's meet the old Kyles, and watch how they blended and adapted to become the Kyle history will remember.
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It's honestly crazy to think that Kyle Lowry played for six seasons before joining the Raptors. In my head he joined the NBA as a 26 year old rookie in Toronto.
I’m a Grizzlies fan and can tell you hardly anyone remembers his days in Memphis as a young backup point guard on Grizzlies teams who would usually finish with 58-60 losses per year.
In his early days he was practically a no name for anyone outside of Memphis or if you went to Villanova
@@JWex-jy7sk meh that’s just casuals. Lowry was viewed as a point guard with starting upside back than
@@SIMSANITYY starting upside, yes. All-star and starter on a team beating the Warriors in the finals? No way
Why did this man say "bring a championship to Toronto" like Lowry wasnt the 4th option on that roster😂
Crow 57 he was the second option
Kyle Lowry has had like 3 careers wrapped into one
Kinda like billups
Only people with careers like that is Bron and Vince carter
@Chandler Russell bust arc with Memphis you meant and as a heat fan he was honestly horrible for half the playoffs 😂 worst defense of his career not to mention his shooting 💀
@@hoodie_bron pretty sure he played injured
@@tragically_bad221 your right but that was in the conference finals. He still played awful defense. To give an example he would do what we saw oladipo, cp3, and Russ do when a offensive player is too fast for them they would swipe at the ball and throw there hands up and the guy driving would get a free layup or dunk. Lowry would do that so many times in the playoffs instead of playing defense he would flop around them from time to time and he did that a lot against the Celtics with Marcus smart and when he had to guard brown. Terrible defense and just as bad offense 😂🤷🏾♂️
He is a perfect example for why scheme fit matters so much for players. Some busts may have that label because they were drafted by, signed by or traded to the wrong team. Lowry is a perfect example of that fact.
Maybe Wiggins is another example
You should always scheme towards your player's strengths. Steph Curry can't overpower defenses and dunk on them, and Shaq can't outhustle the defense and bank 3 pointers all night.
Chauncey Billups is like that too
100% agree. If youre drafted to a Sacramento or Minny, most likely youre not going to be developed properly and theyll give up on you. Sucks for all the guys whoes careers were ruined because of bad management, development and franchise culture. Golden State were exactly the same until new management came in and fired a ton of people. They brought in brand new talent, changed the culture and the basis of development and drafting practices. Teams like Sacramento continue to suck for a reason. And whenever they do hit on a player in the draft, they trade them away, like Tyrese.
Also, Masai Ujiri showing him a bunch of scouting reports, because if he didn't get his rear in gear, he'd be out of the NBA and have to become a scout.
That was the motivation Lowry needed.
Lowry and DeRozan were the best duo that turned the sluggish Raptors into a powerhouse team and laid the foundation for the team's first championship.
Weak east
@@andresdelportillo9917 stfu lowrys thicness may not be stopped weak est or not
@@janoycresnova9156 Nope. That duo was huge for us. We had never as a franchise made it passed the first round before those two. That duo made us a consistent playoff team for the first time and changed the culture even now (people expect the Raps to be a playoff team..that was not a thing ever before those 2 they built and created that) we made our first ecf as a franchise with those two. And the combination of pops pettyness and DeMars talent his trade value as sad as it was was good enough to get us a top 3 player going into that season. We also had to go through LeBron who had gone to 8 finals in a row and beat a team with peak Bron, peak Kyrie, and Kevin love before his decline...ya that's not an easy team to beat even though the rest of the east wasn't what it is today. So nah that duo changed the culture, took us to new heights, and if we didn't have those 2 as our backcourt we wouldn't have our championship.
Lowry & Derozan vs Cp3 & Blake
@@accountant3847 On paper the Clippers squad..but the issue with lob city which I didn't really think about until I heard KD say this on JJ's pod was Blake and DJ required someone making opportunities for them and only CP could go out and create his own shot where as Kyle and DeMar can go out and do that and Kyle is the only guy out of all of them that's actually won
Who could've thought that once relatively unknown player would eventually become an all-time great for the Raptors. Yet here we are living in a world where Kyle Lowry is a relevant player and a beloved figure in Toronto and I'm so happy for him.
I'm a rockets fan. I knew how good Lowry was and I was not surprised he turned out the way he did
Might even be a first ballot Hall of Famer after he retires!
So Secret Base decided it was time to make everyone from Toronto happy today. Thanks guys.
Hahah my thoughts exactly except for all of canada 🇨🇦 ! Here in the west of the country we have been all huge raps fans especially since the 2013 season. Canadas love for ball and the players being drafted at record high proves this
Kyle sucks
Someone in the office said "How are our Toronto numbers?" And the answer came back "Unsure. Let's make a Prism video about Kyle Lowry to boost em."
i feel like i always only hear about the lakers, warriors, celtics, etc. in these youtube videos. a video about the raptors was such a great surprise
sometimes its all about the deals you don't end up making that matter the most. never forget 11 straight points to start game 6 in the finals
During the celebration on the court, Masai was barred from getting on the court.
He was unfairly targeted by a man who clearly wanted to ruin this moment for him.
It was in that moment that Lowry reached out to Masai, and brought him into the accomplishment they both deserved.
A perfect resolution to the story of their relationship that lead to a championship
I’m super skeptical of famous person versus regular person and usually take the regular person with no platforms side. But in that situation you can find the tape Masai Ujiri has credentials on and in a sea of moving people the security guard just grips him up
That moment especially stands out, in my opinion, as a counter to the hot-headedness that Lowry showed early in his career. He calmly took Masai aside and taught him how to navigate American systemic racism in a calm, professional manner.
Also the greatest charge taker ive ever seen. This dude used put his body on the line all the timr
Flop
@@stevehornea2577 flop or not it gives the team another possession
Kyle Lowry: the man who take charges at the All-Star Game.
ledge.
Lowry is the basketball equivalent of a baseball player who doesn't get out of the way of a pitch.
I remember in NBA 2K13 MyCareer I got drafted by the Raptors as a PG and Computer Kyle Lowry scored like 35 ppg that season so I only got to play like 6 minutes a game. His rating was only like 83 but he never missed.
Kyle Lowry is a prime example of what Masai Ujiri has done for the Raptors. If Kyle Lowry had been playing for the Raptors prior to Masai’s arrival, he would have left. Masai Ujiri’s tenure has changed the perception of playing for the Raptors. He has instilled a winning culture in Toronto. A culture of getting it done and doing right by their players. Developing the best players and taking advantage of the mistakes of other teams. Even when he made the Kawhi trade, there is a belief that the man at the top knows what he is doing. Now, when players join the Raptors, rather than thinking about a team that’s gonna be bad, make bad decisions and pay you less because of taxes, they now think of an organization that is going to do everything in their power to make you the best player you can be and if you don’t become your best, the man at the top knows how to get the most out of your value on the market. As a Raptors fan, I will forever argue that Masai more than anyone is responsible for the Raptors transition from basement dweller to one of the best organizations in the NBA. He deserves a statue when he retires.
100 percent. As far as basketball in Toronto goes, this is Masai's world and everyone else is living in it.
Crazy career if you think about it. Became an all star only after 8 years and all nba at 29
His career path is eerily similar to Chauncey Billups.
@@codyssmith73 yeah! Another point chauncey got traded because Rick Pitino didn't like him and wanted a veteran. Kinda weird coincidence
@@codyssmith73 Lowry has said that Billups was a mentor and influence on him. They even worked out together in the offseason when Kyle was a Raptor.
@@vaetrid288 And what team did Pitino trade him to? The Raptors. Makes the coincidences even more interesting.
@@SuperStrik9 You wanna get even funnier? Lowry’s 1st mentor coming into the league was Damon Stoudamire, former Raptor. He looked up to Alvin Williams, a former Villanova PG who’s best playing days we’re in Toronto. We already discussed Billups, and that’s a major what-if right there if we don’t trade him.
3 guys that all had connections to TO that helped shape the best PG in franchise history. And all 3 had similar play styles to Kyle.
You guys should do a 3 episode Full Rewind series with the story of the Raptors…like you did for the “Chosen” Cleveland Cavaliers! The whole 2018-19 season was such a fever dream and I would love to see it documented in some way, shape or form by you guys!
I can already see the script for this.
Part 1: The rise of Toronto basketball with Vince Carter heading the way featuring his cousin T-Mac, near misses against 76ers, and never reached the Final.
Part 2: The Chris Bosh era, a step back, including in no particular order: Vince leaving, Subpar defense (including a particular deep dive into 81 points by one player aka Toronto has fallen), rising ranks, and first round exits, ended with Bosh dipping for Miami.
Part 3: The Masai Ujiri era. Lowry-DeRozan, LeBronto, Kawhi, Nick Nurse, and eventually the championship.
Edit: Name the Doc "We the North" and we are gucci.
i wish i could upvote multiple times, pls make it happen @secretbase
They should. It would be epic.
@@khaitranngoc4176 I would kill for this.
They need to do this fr
2014 Lowry didn't have a "dreadful" performance. He averaged 21-5-5 on 57% TS. He had a huge 36 point performance in game 5 in a 2 point win against the Nets to take a 3-2 series lead and had a game high 28 points in the game 7 loss.
His 2015 performance was the only year where he truly had a terrible performance the entire playoffs, and he was dealing with injuries, although some of that can be attribute with the kind of shape he was in at the time.
-2016 he was terrible at first and great as the playoffs went along.
-2017 he was overall good until he got injured.
-2018 he was overall great and the best player on the team even though the team heavily disappointed against the Cavs.
-2019 we know how that went and he was overall great especially in the ECF and Finals.
-2020 he was overall great and the Raptor's best player in the playoffs.
Yep lol. Kyle was great in the 2014 series, was horrible in the 2015 series and was pretty damn good every year after. His playoff struggles are completely overblown. I will never forget his game 7 performance against Miami putting up 35 points in a near triple double, and then scoring 35 points twice against the Cavaliers the next series. His game 6 performance against the Celtics was also unbelievable in 2020.
I'm a Bucks fan till the end of time and I have mad respect for Lowry. The years with DeRozan were a beautiful thing and then he helped Kawhi win the championship. Dude was under appreciated for sure.
Even as a Spurs fan, the Raptors chip was one of the most satisfying wins ever
It sure was man! #WeTheNorth
You guys gotta do one on Jose Bautista. He went from 4 trades in a single season to Blue Jays legend
It is impossible to understate how upset the ENTIRE raptors fanbase was over the derozan trade. The duo of him and Lowry WAS the team, it was a combination of outrage, shock, and betrayal, and we won a championship because of it. I will always respect masai ujiri for being willing to make that call, knowing full well how humongous a risk that was and that if it didn't pay off he almost certainly would have been booed out of town
As a raptors fan 2019 was the only team I support which I have ever seen win and just living around the Toronto area and seeing a group of people used to watching teams choke and lose be able to experience winning for the first time in decades was great. The city of Toronto is eternally grateful for Kyle Lowry
Don't you guys have a mutant form of football up there?
As a Spurs fan, I really knew nothing of Kyle Lowry until Kawhi joined the team. I watched video of an interview with him right after the DeRozan trade and saw how devastated he was. I watched Toronto in a few regular season games and then saw them a lot in the playoffs that year and was really impressed with Kyle Lowry. He stuck out as a tough, tenacious, steady, consistent leader on the team. Since then I've been a fan. I hope that this year's young Spurs players watch this video so they can learn that the path to greatness is a long and winding road, but for those who persevere there is a reward.
My feelings towards Kyle Lowry as a Philadelphia sports fan are as conflicted as they could possibly be.
Incredible job
So happy for Kyle....Saw him play a lot when he was in high school, first at Northeast High, and then at Cardinal Dougherty in Philly....like Seth said, he was a bulldog in every sense of the word, and could be extremely hardheaded. But, seeing him evolve, mature, and become this GREAT player and future Hall of Famer is just wonderful to see. As someone said here, he and DeRozan really did change the culture for the Raptors and helped lay the foundation for that title in 2019. I'm so happy for everything he's accomplished!
Maybe make a prism on Ken Griffey Jr. With his injuries. Or on the 3 sluggers who cannot get away from talk of steroids, Sosa, McGwire, Bonds.
griffey is too one dimensional to be in this series. the injuries came after his place in the hall of fame was cemented.
McGuire??? How in the world do you think that is his name?!?
Bonds would definitely be a good candidate for this series
Wasn’t Ken Griffey Jr super prominent in the History of the Seattle Mariners doc?
@@muhammadrifqi7308 Junior was fast and a great outfielder as well. How was he one-dimensional?
If anyone's one-dimensional, it's Edgar Martinez.
Kyle. I know you're looking at these comments. We appreciate everything you have done. That Championship is going to be remembered forever in Toronto. God bless you and your family, and good luck with the rest of it.
This is my favourite player OF ALL TIME. Him and many other players on the raptors over the years have brought me so much joy. Thank you K Low
One of the greatest career turnarounds in the history of the NBA.If someone had told us that Kyle Lowry would be HOF value at the end of his career, back in 2014, when he was 28 years old, we would call him crazy
Words cant describe how much i love Kyle Lowry!!
The best moment in sports history in my western city was watching our whole nation rally behind our team 🇨🇦 🍁 🇨🇦
I love these. Each season zooms by so fast that we only focus on the biggest stories, but some of the most interesting stuff is only accessible when you dig deep, and in this case wide, across many seasons. So many lessons to learn from this All Star, yet not really superstar. Thanks for shining light on Lowry.
I have always admire Kyle Lowry for his grit and determination despite everybody's early doubts on where he headed to in his playing career before he played for Toronto.
PS: Secret Base needs to do a Zach Randolph Prism episode in the near future from his days of the Jail Blazers to his Grind-father days of the 2010s Memphis Grizzlies.
I hope we get more Seth videos by far the best narrator on SB.
Clara's up there too.
@@benjaminan1183 everyone else at SB is aight, but Seth is alone at the top. I wish he did every NBA video.
Jon Bois is far and away the best, the rest just don't compare. He's so good they forced him to carry other narrators
@@CyrogenicNation John good at the long-form stuff if you want to get nerdy with numbers. If you want to hear in the voice of the narrator that they have loved the game for more than decade, and can talk for hours about nothing but basketball the Seth is the way to go. I get more excited for an NBA video than anyother because I hope Seth is narrating because he does a better job than anyone about making you care and better understand a little blip in NBA history.
@@alexdehart6626 It's true that Jon doesn't make a lot if any NBA content (I think he only made NBA Y2K about it) and that a lot of his content are longform, but his storytelling skills are the greatest, bar none.
The rare short-form contents like the Larry Walters Pretty Good he made shows that he can delve into short-form content very nicely if he wants to, and his segment about Bob Cyclone in the Bob Emergency alone runs laps around anyone else in terms of making you care about an insignificant blip in sports history. That's not even mentioning the filmmaking skills he's got -- it makes every other SB video seem like a slideshow presentation.
It’s amazing what happens when humans get put in situations where they actually have a chance to succeed. Good on Kyle!
I remember watching him with the Houston Rockets. He showed the toughness & leadership.
As a Raptors fan it was amazing seeing the change in Kyle over the years. He's one of the few players I can think of that was better in their 30's than their 20's.
Seth Rosenthal is my fave producer on SB. Thats it. Thats the tweet.
As a rockets fan I always loved Kyle Lowry. I was very happy when he and Jeremy Lin won the title
I love Kyle, his growth as a person and a player is incredible to see!! ❤
YESSSSSS!!!!
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COVERING THIS MAN!!!
KYLE LOWRY OVER EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kyle is really one of the most grittiest and toughest I've seen Play 👍🏿👍🏿
It is pretty ironic that McHale preferred Goran over him and then years later, Goran got traded for Lowry.
Goran was just better, period.
Lowry also knocked Dragic out of the 2016 playoffs.
A perfect revenge.
@@lifeonthelake4367 Maybe for that season. But Lowry has only gotten much better over time and its not even close as to who the better player is right now.
@@lifeonthelake4367 How many championships has he won? How many all star appearances?
Its crazy what Lowry has done 🔥🔥🐐
Ppl who say lowry got carried that year didnt watch that finals series man, if one superstar could just will teams to championships without a perfect system around them lebron and kd would have 10 titles, that whole raptors team was expertly built to complement kawhis strengths AND weaknesses, without gasols defence on embiid they lose to the sixers. But lowry was the heart and soul of that team and it would not have won without him, the opening minutes of game 6 are proof of the raptors following lowry not the other way around. Kawhi was ofc the best player on that team and they dont win without him, but obviously thats why they traded for him. minimizing someones impact on a championship season simply because they arent an mvp level player is silly because teams dont win without selfless all star level leaders/glue guys like kyle lowry 😁
I know Lowry won a championship, but I’d say Vince Carter is the greatest Raptor ever. He literally is the reason Toronto became excited about that franchise.
This really was a great video. I knew Lowry was a late bloomer but I didn’t know all this about him.
Good video, but I think it needs to delve deeply into how good prime Lowry actually was. This was a guy that in 2016 was 5th in the league in RPM, in 2017 was 4th in the league in RPM, in 2018 was 1st in the league in RPM, in 2019 was 5th in the league in RPM, and in 2020 was 6th in the league in RPM. He was the consummate floor general that was dominant on both ends. He never really got the credit for how impactful he was. He knew how to control the game, manipulate defenses, stifle offenses, take over games when needed. He doesn't get credit but he's one of the greatest 3 point shooters in NBA history and will likely finish top 10 all time in 3 pointers made. Any Raptor fan will know that Lowry was the engine of the team between 2014-2021 and the primary factor of why they were a perennial 50+ win team every season. He was basically like a mini 5'11 bulldog Lebron that could do it all. I'm sure people will disagree with me but I am easily taking prime Lowry over guys like Kyrie, Lillard, Wall, and Kemba during that era. If Lowry was able to play with a guy like Kawhi for more than 1 year there is no doubt in my mind he would have won multiple championships.
He's the GROAT!
He is the GROAT! Love that man! Go Raptors!
Kawhi did more in one season for them then he did his entire career
@@percival8193 Kawhi is the greatest player to play for the Raptors. But Lowry is the greatest Raptor of all time followed by Demar
Junk Yard Dawg is the goat
nahhhhh
@@percival8193 there’s no Kawhi trade without Lowry and Derozan turning the raptors into a consistent playoff team. If not for James Dolan nixing a Lowry trade at the last minute, Raptors would’ve been rebuilding. Instead, Lowry and DeMar turned the team from lottery to a consistent playoff team. The championship doesn’t happen without any of that.
Thank you for posting this
The most underrated player in nba history
Thickest booty in the nba too got my thang like a rock
Man I remember them Memphis days with him, Conley, & Damon Stoudamire. Alot of bad games but those rosters had plenty potential.
I find it awesome that the first Raptor star (Mighty Mouse) was one of the players to mentor the greatest Raptor ever.
@@codyssmith73 yea that is ironic huh?
speaking of grizzlies, notice how they took several jailblazers-era players, leading them into the Grit & Grind era (z-bo, bonzi, and damon).
absolute legend. thanks for making this
Thanks for this. I totally forgot about Kyle Lowry before the success, before the championship. This is great work!
The reason I support the Raptors, from Australia!
Thank you for the Raptors content!
Great series and love all this rapid content 🫡
Lowry has been one of my favorite PGs in the league alongside Jrue Holiday and Ricky Rubio.
He also stepped up in the 2019 Finals when his team needed him the most.
Congrats, Champ!
This series has been amazing, I know the line up is probably already set but I'd love to see a Ricky Williams prism video!
Love the new Prism series. Thank you!
A LOT of us love Lowry here in Canada! Thank you Kyle for the great memories!
Great video, we give up on people way too quick. Imagine how many other players could’ve been successful in the right scheme with the right mentors.
Always got love for K Low man. Thank you for 2019. #ForeverChamps
I hope you will do one of these for Jimmy Butler. He was labeled so hard in the media and lead the Heat to serious playoff contenders.
Thank you Secret Base, brought some tears to my eyes to see this about K-Low. Truly the Greatest Raptor and so glad he was part of this wild ride.
Crazy to see he been in the league since 06' 🤙🏿
gotta love lowry
What doesn't kills you, makes you stronger. Glad to hear these success stories.
Skill + longevity + success + mindset + charity = Greatest Raptor of All Time
Needed this
As a Grizzlies fan, I’m so happy both him and Mike Conley found ways to become great.
If we’d kept both it would’ve been like the Fox-Haliburton situation in Sacramento: 2 great unselfish players, but with a lot of overlapping abilities that would prevent them from reaching their full potential.
Loving this series
Thank you for this video on our GROAT
Seth, longtime fan here. Just wanted to check in on you. I can’t imagine the depression a knicks fan would have doing research rehashing this point, and the actual video for this one. It’s understandable, I had it when you guys decided to unload the Vince retrospective on me. Hoping Secret Base’s benefit plan includes some counselling.❤
Sincerely
A big Raptors/Seth Fan
Awesome, well done👏
HAVENT EVEN WATCHED IT AND YOU ALREADY KNOW YA BOY BOUT TO BE IN HIS FEELINGS
WOW Never thought we'd get this. GROAT
The Groat, miss this beautiful man in Toronto
Great video. Kyle is the Goat for the Raptors. He will have his number retired. He will have a Statue outside. He may one day be the coach for the team as well. That’s how great he is.
Great work
saw kyle and booted up my computer instantly, love some raps content
2019 was a helluva time to be a basketball fan.
Don't see too many players like Lowry anymore. Stronger point guards who is arguably better on the less glamorous side of the floor. Still think DeMar was always the better Raptor but Lowry encompassed the most successful era of the Raptors.
It's a coin flip, Lowry deserves all the credit for being the leader the Raptors always needed and it would have been amazing to see what the two of them could've done without having to face LeBron every year.
I have a soft spot for DeMar since I don't think the last 10 years happens with Lowry or Masai if he isn't there to improve the culture and be Toronto's first star that wasn't ashamed to play for the Raptors.
raptors 2019 championship, the build up and what followed could be a movie. There’s a lot about that season that to this day not many people know what a roller coaster it was on and off the court
Great video and narration, but I feel like you could've talked more about his championship season as well as the later years of his time in Toronto.
Thanks for making this, Kyle is my favorite player and actually got me back into basketball in my mid 20s
This is a damn good episode about realignment & sacrifice.
Great video
YESSS I'm a Raps fan and Kyle Lowry is my favorite player of all time. I'm so excited to watch this haha
man this a good series
Proud of you Geez!
My boy!! Love me some Lowry
I'm getting emotional over a secret base video. Kyle Lowry, the greatest raptor of all time 🍁🦖
Kyle shows that maturity and willingness to take advice from those who know better, can change your trajectory. Too few have that capability
I don’t know what series this would fit into, but please do a video on “Mysterious” Fredrick Mitchell Walker, the absolute force of nature. Three sport coach and athlete at the college level. Played football and baseball at the pro level... more people must know of this man!!!
I love this series
My boy Seth!
A video about my favourite player, it must be Christmas!
I feel like this episode could also have gone on just a little while longer, because at the very end of his first stint with the raptors (because he will be back to retire in a Toronto jersey), he got to spell out where he wanted to go, and he got to go on his terms.
Awesome video! You guys need to do one of these on Crosby
Kyle!!!
Learn from your failures, be challenged by those that can appreciate you but not always agree with you. It's necessary to succeed. A hard lesson to learn but necessary. Glad he got there and did it for The North.
Crazy he was on the Rockets team that almost knocked Kobe out of the playoffs in 2009.
Kobe got lucky that year.. no T-Mac or Yao…
@@JLS-vv6ye Yao played
@@Kirbystare1992 he played up to game 3 before he broke his foot 🦶but no tmac